New Look RTE News From 26th April.

Onthe3rdDay

Well tonight's supposed to be the night.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/media-and-marketing/rt%C3%A9-unveils-25-000-television-news-redecoration-1.1774444

It'll be interesting to see the changes, They're taking a leaf out of ARD's book in Germany and relaunching the News on a Saturday rather than Waiting till the start of a New Week. Hopefully they've also remembered RTE News Now.

Elmo

Onthe3rdDay wrote: »

Well tonight's supposed to be the night.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/media-and-marketing/rt%C3%A9-unveils-25-000-television-news-redecoration-1.1774444

It'll be interesting to see the changes, They're taking a leaf out of ARD's book in Germany and relaunching the News on a Saturday rather than Waiting till the start of a New Week. Hopefully they've also remembered RTE News Now.

Nothing about how awful News Now looks, bet they leave the fonts and look of News Now exactly the same come SixOne tonight.

The word news should be in CAPITALS.

icdg

Very nice graphics, though the set hasn't changed much, nor has the music. Titles aren't up to much.

Onthe3rdDay

On first inspection it looks better. The brighter look is more inviting, plus the sports scores were a lot clearer. We won't be able to make a full judgement until we see a full Six One on Monday.

However, RTE NEWS NOW is now totally out of step with the bulletins. The logical thing would have been to change all graphics at the same time.

I will say that the investment that RTE made five years ago is now paying off. They're able to refresh the look of the News with very little spent. So credit where credit is due.

icdg

The problem I suspect is that News Now isn't actually run by RTE News and Current Affairs, but by the web team at RTE Commercial Enterprises Limited. And I'm not sure the extent to which they actually talk to each other (the web teams use of the incorrect names "One News" and "Nine News" being a prime example).

Onthe3rdDay

icdg wrote: »

The problem I suspect is that News Now isn't actually run by RTE News and Current Affairs, but by the web team at RTE Commercial Enterprises Limited. And I'm not sure the extent to which they actually talk to each other (the web teams use of the incorrect names "One News" and "Nine News" being a prime example).

You're probably correct about communication within the wider organisation. Plus it's not like you can go anywhere else if you want Irish TV News. RTE are the only game in town at the weekends, and during the week TV3 only put out one 5 minute bulletin after 6.30pm.

I would presume they'll keep polishing what they've got in preparation for UTV Ireland's News Service.

AwaitYourReply

Well I have read about the changes coming to RTÉ TV News bulletins for some time and I happened to catch the whole of Six One News on RTÉ One on Saturday evening and I was very unimpressed and disappointed to be honest

The backdrop images had only minor/subtle changes while the desk looks no different at all. Any interviews or presentation from within the RTÉ News Studio looks almost the exact same apart from the on-screen idents/graphic visual images and the opening & closing sequences/signature tune update - the general feel of the programme is as before which seems like a pointless exercise altogether. If RTÉ thinks that this refresh ahead of the new Irish TV channel entitled: UTV Ireland next January, then I think RTÉ will need to seriously up it's game as this looks like something we're familiar with already!

For instance, the colour schemes used in new on-screen graphics resembles what was previously introduced to Irish screens by TV3 in their weekday Early Evening News programme entitled: "The 5:30" over 12 months ago! Our national broadcaster, RTÉ is unlikely to halt or stem the outflow of curious Irish TV viewers from switching over with this poor effort which is like a copy of TV3 News on-screen graphics.

Where is the dynamism, creativity and imagination here as if money is tight (which I suspect it is) then this was not the way to be wasting already scarce resources - if you are going to refresh a key home produced live staple TV programme and "make a big song and dance about it" then you would want to make it really feel like a refresh rather than a re-hash of what we have seen before on the same programme or on your main rival's programme. RTÉ looks jaded tired already and UTV Ireland are about to launch here in January which won't be long coming round! New blood in the form of anchors in the RTÉ newsroom would also be very welcome. Wake up RTÉ and get it together.

Elmo

AwaitYourReply wrote: »

For instance, the colour schemes used in new on-screen graphics resembles what was previously introduced to Irish screens by TV3 in their weekday Early Evening News programme entitled: "The 5:30" over 12 months ago! Our national broadcaster, RTÉ is unlikely to halt or stem the outflow of curious Irish TV viewers from switching over with this poor effort which is like a copy of TV3 News on-screen graphics.

A poor effort of a poor effort.

It was fairly clear that the only major changes were going to be the titles and inter-titles. I think is a good freshening up, however the backgrounds to the video monitors (big screens) need to be also freshened up instead the dark blue remains in the background.

The change of pace to the music is nice. I never really liked the 09 look.

JDxtra

Meh.

Why has the RTE News logo got an animated bar? Pointless and distracting.

Don't like the intentional blockyness of the background image on the video wall.

One report showed a screen full of text and then proceeded to have a slow zoom effect into it! Weird and again pointless.

Another report had some horrible clashing text colours which made it almost unreadable.

I hope they didn't pay for this! Seems like a very cheap in-house job (I hope!!).

kn

I only recently got the Freesat in and only now realise how godawful the Saorview channels really are!

Elmo

kn wrote: »

I only recently got the Freesat in and only now realise how god awful the Saorview channels really are!

? Freesat channels outside BBC 1, 2, ITV and C4 aren't much better.

mike65

Elmo wrote: »

? Freesat channels outside BBC 1, 2, ITV and C4 aren't much better.

BBC1 HD
BBC2 HD
BBC3 HD
BBC4 HD
BBC NEWS HD
CBBC HD
Ceebies HD
ITV1 HD
Channel 4 HD
NHK HD
RT HD

and most of the other mainstream channels are far easier to watch than TV3 E3 TG4.

lertsnim

kn wrote: »

I only recently got the Freesat in and only now realise how godawful the Saorview channels really are!

Saorview serves a purpose and does it well. My only complaint is the resolution for the SD channels.


BBC NEWS HD, CBBC HD, Ceebies HD, NHK HD and RT HD are easier to watch than TV3, 3E and TG4? Whatever you're into I guess.

mike65

lertsnim wrote: »

Saorview serves a purpose and does it well. My only complaint is the resolution for the SD channels.


BBC NEWS HD, CBBC HD, Ceebies HD, NHK HD and RT HD are easier to watch than TV3, 3E and TG4? Whatever you're into I guess.

Its pretty clear (geddit) what I'm, on about. You'd go blind trying to watch sport on Saorview SD, you'd just go blind watching TV3 and E3

Elmo

mike65 wrote: »

Its pretty clear (geddit) what I'm, on about. You'd go blind trying to watch sport on Saorview SD, you'd just go blind watching TV3 and E3

I have only looked at TV3 and you notice a distinct difference in quality, you can read the ads in the stadium on UTV HD!

They really should have improved TG4, TV3 and 3e when the new mux went live.

This is OTT.

RED L4 0TH

When do RTE plan to start live studio broadcasts in HD?

icdg

RTÉ News anyone....

Onthe3rdDay

Well the opening of the Six One looked dated tonight. The two presenters were sitting down and it looked like something RTE would have done 20 years ago.

Plus the brighter colours aren't doing the wall any favours. You can see the joins, I doubt the studio is fit for purpose for HD.

I'm watching on a standard 32 inch set and I can sell where borders don't match up on Graphics. It's very obvious with the RTE Sport Graphic and close ups on the anchors.

It's always been that way of course but with darker colours your eyes weren't drawn to flaws. The animation titles are already tired after 2 days. Music is fine.

Onthe3rdDay

Just to point out it does look a lot better on RTE ONE+1, with the softer picture those lines on the wall fade greatly and don't draw the eye. However lessening the quality of the picture isn't really a solution.:D

Sam Russell

Elmo wrote: »

They really should have improved TG4, TV3 and 3e when the new mux went live.

They - TV3 and TG4 have the resolution they pay for, so if it is rubbish - blame them. It has nothing to do with Saorview. They could improve the horizontal resolution to from 576i to 704i for very little cost but much better result.

RTE News Now should go full screen and also go for 704i.

Saorview could be criticised for offering 576i at all. We deserve better.

cranefly

A different shade of blue in the studio background, and a trombone or two added to the opening music, is that it
I thought everything was done with computers now, as in the background graphics, or is that really a board, like on a stage, that music on the six one news has always been annoying in my opinion, it is way too loud, i always go for the remote to turn it down, cbs news on american tv has a way lighter tone, why is everything on rte news such a full orchestra sound.

brick man

I tweeted RTE News Now to find out if their graphics were changing to bring it into line with RTE News and they replied it will be but not for a few weeks yet .

The Cush

Sam Russell wrote: »

RTE News Now should go full screen and also go for 704i.

Saorview could be criticised for offering 576i at all. We deserve better.

Saorview is 544 x 576i now, the vertical resolution 576i remains the same if the horizontal resolution is upped to 704 (704 x 576i).

Sam Russell

The Cush wrote: »

Saorview is 544 x 576i now, the vertical resolution 576i remains the same if the horizontal resolution is upped to 704 (704 x 576i).

You are of course right. I meant 544 should not be offered on Saorview as SD. It should only offer 704 by 576i. Unfortunately, the horizontal resolution is not shown on the TV, only the verticle - hence the mistake.

It is terrible that the RTE NN not only uses poor horizontal resolution, it uses a lot of it to show sidebars of rubbish, along with a tickertape (sort of) that could be dispensed with. It may look OK on a website but on TV it looks cluttered and confusing. If they must have that, then it should be an app using MHEG5 they they went on about at the time of launch.

twinklerunner

Onthe3rdDay wrote: »

Well tonight's supposed to be the night.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/media-and-marketing/rt%C3%A9-unveils-25-000-television-news-redecoration-1.1774444

It'll be interesting to see the changes, They're taking a leaf out of ARD's book in Germany and relaunching the News on a Saturday rather than Waiting till the start of a New Week. Hopefully they've also remembered RTE News Now.

I don't like the look of the new on-screen graphic for RTÉ News - compared to, say, the SKY NEWS logo. It's too big and it's stuck in the 4:3 position.

Rick_

Doesn't look that great, and come on, RTÉ haven't even updated the RTÉ ONE+1 DOG to look the same as the new RTÉ ONE DOG, what made anyone think graphics are their strength. It looks very bland and basic, and News Now when it refreshes in a few weeks (?!) will look just as bad.

Elmo

Paddy C wrote: »

Doesn't look that great, and come on, RTÉ haven't even updated the RTÉ ONE+1 DOG to look the same as the new RTÉ ONE DOG, what made anyone think graphics are their strength. It looks very bland and basic, and News Now when it refreshes in a few weeks (?!) will look just as bad.

It cann't look much worse.

Sam Russell

I think I prefer the cleaner look. Pity it is not carried over to RTE NewNow.

RTE News Now is dreadful, and what is the point of simultaneous transmission of the news on both RTE1 and RTE NN? Why have a sidebar and a tickertape type thingy? It is all too busy and out of focus.

Dreadful.

brick man

Sam you may have missed this I posted on April 29th last ;


I tweeted RTE News Now to find out if their graphics were changing to bring it into line with RTE News and they replied ; It will be but not for a few weeks yet .

Elmo

brick man wrote: »

Sam you may have missed this I posted on April 29th last ;


I tweeted RTE News Now to find out if their graphics were changing to bring it into line with RTE News and they replied ; It will be but not for a few weeks yet .

It doesn't make sense to role out a new look RTÉ News first. If RTÉ had any interest in News Now they would have rolled out a complete new look. The Head of RTÉ News worked as Head of BBC News Channel he knows that you don't roll this out in a piecemeal manner.

In other words I don't believe the twitter account.

brick man

Elmo I would agree with you that it should have been all rolled out at the same time . But this is RTE and the Head of RTE News & Current Affairs does not run News Now it is managed by RTE Digital which is totally wrong . News Now could be much better with a small amount of money , a bit more of a schedule to it would be a start . Kevin Bakhurst as well as head of RTE News is also Deputy D.G., should be looking to bring the Channel under his remit and if it was I would say it would change for the better . If we all can see this why does RTE not. The last time it changed its look was June Bank Holiday last year so it will happen round that time again i guess time will tell !