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Are you someones Boss?

  • 25-04-2014 8:44pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,657 ✭✭✭


    If so, whats it like?

    Are you a complete arse when it comes to letting your employees take time off to see dying relatives?

    Would you bend the rules to make your subordinates work more than they should?

    And what do you do with the ****ehawks?

    I'm no ones boss, but from reading the work problems forum seems like there are some prize characters out their making others lives a misery or just being awkward unneccesarily.

    My boss is sound and let me take paid time off every now and then if I want it. His theory being that if I'm flexible and willing to overlook some terms of my contract then he'll overlook them to.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭The One Who Knocks


    Does employing Indian freelancers part time count?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,374 ✭✭✭Hotale.com


    I am the boss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭Putin


    somefeen wrote: »
    If so, whats it like?

    Fun.
    somefeen wrote: »
    Are you a complete arse when it comes to letting your employees take time off to see dying relatives?

    Take time? Yes, only when they themselves die.

    somefeen wrote: »
    Would you bend the rules to make your subordinates work more than they should?

    I don't bend the rules, I am the rules.

    somefeen wrote: »
    And what do you do with the ****ehawks?

    Gulag.

    somefeen wrote: »
    My boss is sound and let me take paid time off every now and then if I want it. His theory being that if I'm flexible and willing to overlook some terms of my contract then he'll overlook them to.

    Your boss is week, he needs re-education.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    @OP I'm not sure you get how difficult managing people is.

    It's hard to assess genuine requests for leave versus the monday morning sick leave requests.

    I as a manager (hate the word boss) try to treat things on a personal basis and evaluate decisions on that basis


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Doom


    My opinion is that most Irish bosses are ignorant of employee rights, they try to steamroll their authority over their employees.
    In short they are bullies.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    I am the boss and you are my minions!

    I will take care of business, as they say in the States!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Doom wrote: »
    My opinion is that most Irish bosses are ignorant of employee rights, they try to steamroll their authority over their employees.
    In short they are bullies.

    I'd disagree 100%

    In my current role I was engaged with a client when I got a call that my father was dying, my boss offered to drive me 150 miles to get to be with my dad.

    In another role, due to my dad being sick (cancer) I was offered a transfer to be with him

    I have had 6 jobs in ten years, all have been very cognisant of family life and taken care to make sure it was accomodated.

    There is a happy medium out there

    I've had staff break laws, accidents driving on a provisional in NI which they shouldn't have, all sorts, and used the company to help them get through it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    I am, but I try hard not to let on, which is usually the best way. No-one knows I'm the boss, I look like the roughest worker on site and keep well back in the shadows. I am also the anti-ar5e. I've had loads of a-hole bosses, more than enough to know I don't want to be one. There's no clock-watching on either side - if you're there and there's work, lash in, if you're there and there isn't, either mooch purposefully, or feck off home and stop annoying me. If your kids are sick, feck off and look after them, I would. Docking wages, being an arrogant git and making peoples lives a misery is for gimps. In return for not being an ar5e, I have people working with me who will stay all night if needs be and break their holes to get stuff done. They know I do it for them, and it's about give and take.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    Yeah, I have 7 staff. I'm nice to them for the most part.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    somefeen wrote: »
    If so, whats it like?

    Are you a complete arse when it comes to letting your employees take time off to see dying relatives?

    Would you bend the rules to make your subordinates work more than they should?

    And what do you do with the ****ehawks?

    I'm no ones boss, but from reading the work problems forum seems like there are some prize characters out their making others lives a misery or just being awkward unneccesarily.

    My boss is sound and let me take paid time off every now and then if I want it. His theory being that if I'm flexible and willing to overlook some terms of my contract then he'll overlook them to.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    I'm a manager and I dunno, I think I'm okay.

    When I train new staff, i make sure to chat to them about general stuff, not just work stuff. I give them fair breaks, and a few smoke breaks if they want them. I buy them coffee and have a chat before they start too, just so they know I'm human, not just someone they have to impress.

    Seems to work, because everyone I've trained is still in the job, and doing very well.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Doom


    Stheno wrote: »
    I'd disagree 100%

    In my current role I was engaged with a client when I got a call that my father was dying, my boss offered to drive me 150 miles to get to be with my dad.

    In another role, due to my dad being sick (cancer) I was offered a transfer to be with him

    I have had 6 jobs in ten years, all have been very cognisant of family life and taken care to make sure it was accomodated.

    There is a happy medium out there

    I've had staff break laws, accidents driving on a provisional in NI which they shouldn't have, all sorts, and used the company to help them get through it.

    In one part of your post you say 'your boss' helped you, in another you say "I've had staff break the law'
    Are you being a sneaky boss again...?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭dpofloinn


    No but I do everything like a BOSS:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    I get called Boss a lot. Usually when caravan shopping.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Doom


    My current boss is a sneaky fcker, makes out he is friend...tried to walk me into saying a couple of things "on record" with could have helped him manage me out the door.
    I'm going through a difficult time atm, and he is trying to protect his own role, as the issues could tar him because he has tried to keep them under the radar.
    A cocksucking company man all the way, regardless of who gets walked on, he is only interested in how good he looks to his boss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    Doom wrote: »
    My current boss is a sneaky fcker, makes out he's s friend...tried to walk me into saying a couple of things "on record" with could have helped him manage me out the door.
    I'm going through a difficult time atm, and he is trying to protect his own role, as the issues could tar him because he has tried to keep them under the radar.
    A cocksucking company man all the way, regardless of who gets walked on, he is only interested in how good he looks to his boss.

    Then he's not a Boss, he's a manager. There's a big difference. I'm the Boss of this Garage, as auld Jock is fond of saying. Though I was getting a coffee in a petrol station there yesterday and an old boy asked me if I worked there and would I mind filling his petrol for him. I need to start dressing better ffs.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Doom


    The buck stops with him in my role, after that its upper uber management, he can hire and fire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,657 ✭✭✭somefeen


    I am, but I try hard not to let on, which is usually the best way. No-one knows I'm the boss, I look like the roughest worker on site and keep well back in the shadows. I am also the anti-ar5e. I've had loads of a-hole bosses, more than enough to know I don't want to be one. There's no clock-watching on either side - if you're there and there's work, lash in, if you're there and there isn't, either mooch purposefully, or feck off home and stop annoying me. If your kids are sick, feck off and look after them, I would. Docking wages, being an arrogant git and making peoples lives a misery is for gimps. In return for not being an ar5e, I have people working with me who will stay all night if needs be and break their holes to get stuff done. They know I do it for them, and it's about give and take.

    Ah those are the best bosses.

    I was going into work yesterday and met the managing director outside, rodding the sewers. Sound guy, works around the site like the rest of us and gets covered in ****e even more than I do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,696 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Doom wrote: »
    The buck stops with him in my role, after that its upper uber management, he can hire and fire.

    The buck stops with the boss and he ain't it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,088 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I manage 3 teams globally and having come from where they are, and worked my way up in several different companies from similar roles, I have a pretty good idea of the issues they face.

    That said I have an open door policy and encourage them to be equally open with any requests or problems they might have. I look at it more as supporting my teams rather than being the boss.

    They work hard and put in extra effort, initiative and time whenever needed (or often without being asked to get a job done) and I try to accommodate any leave requests as much as possible but they know themselves that cover still has to be maintained so there's no problem if there's a clash.

    I make sure that their hard work is recognized as well and fed back up the line but truth be told they make the job easy for me really :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 Nicoleye


    I had the option to move on to management and chose not to for my own reasons but having experienced bad managers. My manager right now is the best I've prob ever had, firm but fair and approachable which is probably the best part.

    Nothing worse than your manager not having your back and feeling like you can't go to them.

    Why am i posting about my manager on a Friday night?? Ha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 270 ✭✭Dr. Zaius Dr. Zaius!


    I am, but I try hard not to let on, which is usually the best way. No-one knows I'm the boss, I look like the roughest worker on site and keep well back in the shadows. I am also the anti-ar5e. I've had loads of a-hole bosses, more than enough to know I don't want to be one. There's no clock-watching on either side - if you're there and there's work, lash in, if you're there and there isn't, either mooch purposefully, or feck off home and stop annoying me. If your kids are sick, feck off and look after them, I would. Docking wages, being an arrogant git and making peoples lives a misery is for gimps. In return for not being an ar5e, I have people working with me who will stay all night if needs be and break their holes to get stuff done. They know I do it for them, and it's about give and take.

    You sound lovely! Can I come work for you? :-P I can shovel as good as the next man!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    No one is the Boss of me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Putin wrote: »
    Your boss is week, he needs re-education.

    Oh, the hilarity. Grab your coat, you've had enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    Yes I am, and i'm a pretty terrible boss...I don't really ask my employee's to do much and have very relaxed approach to things...They think i'm great but i reckon my bosses boss would love me out:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    I am, but I try hard not to let on, which is usually the best way. No-one knows I'm the boss, I look like the roughest worker on site and keep well back in the shadows. I am also the anti-ar5e. I've had loads of a-hole bosses, more than enough to know I don't want to be one. There's no clock-watching on either side - if you're there and there's work, lash in, if you're there and there isn't, either mooch purposefully, or feck off home and stop annoying me. If your kids are sick, feck off and look after them, I would. Docking wages, being an arrogant git and making peoples lives a misery is for gimps. In return for not being an ar5e, I have people working with me who will stay all night if needs be and break their holes to get stuff done. They know I do it for them, and it's about give and take.

    You sound like the bestest pretend Boss ever. If I ever want a job in pretend land, I'll be sure and try to sign up. :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    You sound like the bestest pretend Boss ever. If I ever want a job in pretend land, I'll be sure and try to sign up. :p

    Funnily enough, I work for the best companies going, pretty much, mainly as I get it done without the drama. I'll hand over the new offices of a company I am proud to do work for that made over €600 million profit last year, in a weeks time, built by yours truly. And without even a flicker of cockery, gee-baggery or ar5e. Sometimes Mickey, it just is what it's said it is. Also, I got paid today, so the whole world can kiss my shiny, golden hole tbh. Hah.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Funnily enough, I work for the best companies going, pretty much, mainly as I get it done without the drama. I'll hand over the new offices of a company I am proud to do work for that made over €600 million profit last year, in a weeks time, built by yours truly. And without even a flicker of cockery, gee-baggery or ar5e. Sometimes Mickey, it just is what it's said it is. Also, I got paid today, so the whole world can kiss my shiny, golden hole tbh. Hah.

    Bur yet you try and justify it here. Suppose you need a release somewhere :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    Bur yet you try and justify it here. Suppose you need a release somewhere :p

    Naah, I just bang out stuff as an antidote to stress. It maintains my flowing locks. Also, like I said, I quite like playing in the shadows.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Bur yet you try and justify it here. Suppose you need a release somewhere :p

    If it wasn't true he wouldn't say it over and over, of course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    If it wasn't true he wouldn't say it over and over, of course.

    Feckin long-running lie at this stage, wouldn't you say. Also, go post something interesting Meadow Gifted Roadkill, it's been so long, in fairness. You used to be much less dull.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭ringadingding


    Being a boss is tough, you're responsible for people's livelihoods.
    Striking a fair balance, being there for your staff and leading by example tends to lead to loyalty and a workforce that's motivated

    I like to think I'm a decent boss, I work very hard, you work very hard, paid an honest wage, treated with respect and dignity, my word is final, but it Also means something, if I say I'll do something for you, it's done.

    I have my bad days, where the pressure can make me be a cûnt, but usually I'm in your corner.

    I never got the reasoning behind lazy bullying bosses who don't get their hands dirty. But maybe they're the smart ones.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Feckin long-running lie at this stage, wouldn't you say. Also, go post something interesting Frada, it's been so long, in fairness. You used to be much less dull.

    I was in agreement, amigo. :confused: No need to fly off the handle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    we are all Pals here. lets not get hot under the collar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    I was in agreement, amigo. :confused: No need to fly off the handle.

    Good stuff. Any hope of you posting somthing interesting? You used to be one of my favorite posters -always the sharpest tool in the drawer. You've gottten blunt.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    we are all Pals here. lets not get hot under the collar.

    Easy to lose the rag on the internet. Calmer heads will prevail, amigo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Good stuff. Any hope of you posting somthing interesting? You used to be one of my favorite posters -always the sharpest tool in the drawer. You've gottten blunt.

    Time catches up with us all, alas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Funnily enough, I work for the best companies going, pretty much, mainly as I get it done without the drama. I'll hand over the new offices of a company I am proud to do work for that made over €600 million profit last year, in a weeks time, built by yours truly. And without even a flicker of cockery, gee-baggery or ar5e. Sometimes Mickey, it just is what it's said it is. Also, I got paid today, so the whole world can kiss my shiny, golden hole tbh. Hah.

    ...Pighead's back!!!

    *runs*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    sdeire wrote: »
    ...Pighead's back!!!

    *runs*

    Checks bank account. Smiles. Gives not a fcuk what some strangers think. Has another scotch...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    Time catches up with us all, alas.

    Viagra might solve some of your problems.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    Half of my staff like me, the other half dont. The staff that like me are the hard working and reliable type, been with us for a good long time, the other half aren't dedicated to their work, they put in the hours but only bare minimum levels of work.
    Moral of the story is, if you work hard you'll never have a problem with me. If you don't work hard, you'll think I'm a prick and you won't last.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭ryan101


    I've been an employee, a manager, and an employer.

    In my experience the general management skills some Irish managers, can at times be appalling.

    I've seen many resort to manipulation and what they think is clever bullying, to hide their own incompetency as managers.

    The purpose of workplace bullying is to hide incompetency.

    95% of employees in my experience want to do a good job, it's a matter of finding their particular skills and talents and bringing them out, everyone is different. If you choose the wrong person for the wrong job, or you don't listen to employee feedback and suggestions, you've only yourself to blame as a manager. Listen to your employees suggestions, they are the ones who know their jobs and are actually doing them day in day out. Keep them informed. Train people to work as a team, not against one another, trying to cut each others throats.

    You don't have to be their friends, but If you look after your people, and treat them with respect, they will look after you, it's that simple.


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