Deonte Wilder "The Bronze Bomber"

Dublin Red Devil

I don't know if there is a thread on this man yet, But the guy Deonte Wilder looks to be the real deal in the Heavyweight division

Age 28

Height 6ft7

Weight 230lbs

Reach 84"

From Tuscaloosa, Alabama, USA

31 Fights

31 Wins

31 by KO

HigginsJ

You will get hugely varying opinions on Deontay. He clearly hasn't been tested yet but the quality of opposition had by and large been poor. His short amateur career has been the main reason he had been brought along slowly but we should know by the end of the year whether he is hope or hype.

Dublin Red Devil

HigginsJ wrote: »

You will get hugely varying opinions on Deontay. He clearly hasn't been tested yet but the quality of opposition had by and large been poor. His short amateur career has been the main reason he had been brought along slowly but we should know by the end of the year whether he is hope or hype.

I've watched a good few of his fights. 18 of those 31 KO wins came inside the 1st round, None have gone beyond the 4th round. I understand allot of those guys he has beaten are bums, but his rise is fairly impressive. The real tests are still to come. I think everyone wants this guy to be great, Heavyweight badly needs an American Champion with personality that can revive the division. I can't remember the last time there was a notable Heavyweight PPV fight in Vegas.

walshb

What grates me is not that he has been fighting average foes, it's folks seeming certain that he will fail when he really steps up.

Deiseboy01

walshb wrote: »

What grates me is not that he has been fighting average foes, it's folks seeming certain that he will fail when he really steps up.

Agreed bar a Klitchko what's the step up to? Thompson, Fury, Chisora, Areolla, etc. 50 50 fights the lot especially with his power.

walshb

Deiseboy01 wrote: »

Agreed bar a Klitchko what's the step up to? Thompson, Fury, Chisora, Areolla, etc. 50 50 fights the lot especially with his power.

Exactly. Look at the top ten. Apart from Wlad I don't see anyone that is so obviously going to "expose" Wilder. And, Wlad is no certainty either. It's big HW boxing. One shot can end the fight.

Talib Fiasco

He looks really impressive and is a breath of fresh air for the division but his opponents have been sup par to be fair...his last opponent took a dive in the first round for God's sake...I hope he gets a chance to fight a decent boxer at HW so I can actually see if he is a quality boxer or just a lucky guy with a powerful punch...

Dublin Red Devil

He's due to fight the winner of Chris Arreola vs Bermane Stiverne who fight on May 10th. Wilder will likely beat that winner. After that I don't think klitschko will want any part of Wilder. He may not get that shot he deserves.

Talib Fiasco

Yeah tbh with the fact Wlad is fighting someone like Alex Leapai tomorrow night shows that besides his dominance, he clearly isn't keen on reaching out to the division's bright new guns...

HigginsJ

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

He's due to fight the winner of Chris Arreola vs Bermane Stiverne who fight on May 10th. Wilder will likely beat that winner. After that I don't think klitschko will want any part of Wilder. He may not get that shot he deserves.

The winner out of that then faces the winner of Mike Perez vs Bryant Jennings. It's a cracking set of fights coming up. Whoever comes out as champion will deserve it

Dublin Red Devil

pac_man wrote: »

Who has Wilder fought to deserve a title shot.Madness.

He deserves it more the fat bums Vlad is fighting now

HigginsJ

pac_man wrote: »

Apparently training with Adam Booth at the moment. Everyone seems to be hooking up with Booth latly.

Can't wait to see him out. Hopefully the 4 month gap has freshened him up and get his head sorted as something was clearly off against Takam the last fight

barney4001

Wilder is one they will all avoid,apart from klits

Dublin Red Devil

Surprise surprise Klitschko beats another bum. I'd love to see him get in the ring with Wilder. Even better if they could bring it to America, Madison Square Garden would be the perfect venue.

gene_tunney

Let's not get overexcited now.

We need to see Wilder beat someone like Fury, Tony Thompson, Lucas Browne, Pulev, Leapai, Chisora, Arreola, Solis etc before we let him within 10km of Wlad. Chances are, some of these guys will spark Wilder.

I personally would like to see him against Fury or Thompson.

getuponthis

Embarrassing posts from a clear wilder fanboy. Wilder has rubbish boxing skills and just relies on his knockout power, does he have the stamina if someone takes him past the 5th round?
Pretty sure WK would pick him apart and knock him out early. Doesent have much of a chin either if you've see the clips of him being knocked down as an amateur.

Klitschko is fighting all the mandatory challengers put in front if him, what is he supposed to do!? It'd not his fault they aren't near his level.

Wilder isn't close to deserving a shot at Klitschko yet until he stops fighting tomato cans that go in the ring waiting to be knocked out. And you claiming Klitschko is fighting bums, well wilder is yet to fight a bum at that level.

Dublin Red Devil

Wilder represents hope for the Heavyweight division. Heavyweight Boxing needs an exciting heavyweight champion with personality that can revive the division, Fight fans are sick of seeing the boring dull Klitschkos fight bums out in Germany. Why not get the American promoters evolved, set up a fight in Vegas, MGM Grand, HBO PPV.

menoscemo

The hype about Wilder reminds me of Michael Grant. Of course when Grant stepped up to world level he didn't last long against Lennox Lewis.....

walshb

menoscemo wrote: »

The hype about Wilder reminds me of Michael Grant. Of course when Grant stepped up to world level he didn't last long against Lennox Lewis.....

But Lewis at world level equals Wlad at world level. Apart from Wlad there isn't an obvious world beater. Wilder could very well be the best HW on earth. We won't know until he steps up. Looking at who is rated above him at world level wouldn't have me doubting him too much.

megadodge

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

Wilder represents hope for the Heavyweight division American heavyweights. Heavyweight Boxing needs an exciting heavyweight champion with personality that can revive the division, Fight fans are sick of seeing the boring dull Klitschkos fight bums out in Germany. Why not get the American promoters evolved, set up a fight in Vegas, MGM Grand, HBO PPV.

Stop believing Americans who believe the whole world should revolve around them. It never has and never will.

gene_tunney

walshb wrote: »

But Lewis at world level equals Wlad at world level. Apart from Wlad there isn't an obvious world beater. Wilder could very well be the best HW on earth. We won't know until he steps up. Looking at who is rated above him at world level wouldn't have me doubting him too much.

In theory I could be the best heavy until I step up. It means nothing. He has beaten nobody. He has yet to beat even a B- quality heavyweight.

And no, he could not very well be the best heavyweight on earth. Do you know how I no? Because I have watched him and his skills are limited. It's simple. If I was him I would take it very slowly. He has the raw materials, speed and power, but he needs to learn some technique and refine himself further before he goes near Wlad let alone the tier below Wlad.

walshb

gene_tunney wrote: »

He has the raw materials, speed and power, but he needs to learn some technique and refine himself further before he goes near Wlad let alone the tier below Wlad.

This is just it. The speed and power may be all he needs. He's not suddenly going to develop Ali skills. He is what he is. A big heavy handed HW. These two traits are really helpful at pro level at HW.

Rhys Essien

Wilder puts manners on an internet troll.See video here.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-2624566/Deontay-Wilder-beats-internet-troll-Charlie-Zelenoff-abused-social-media-phone.html

Dublin Red Devil

Rhys Essien wrote: »

Wilder puts manners on an internet troll.See video here.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-2624566/Deontay-Wilder-beats-internet-troll-Charlie-Zelenoff-abused-social-media-phone.html

Brilliant. This lad must be insane if he thinks he had any chance of stepping to Deontay Wilder.

Y2KBOS86

Rhys Essien wrote: »

Wilder puts manners on an internet troll.See video here.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-2624566/Deontay-Wilder-beats-internet-troll-Charlie-Zelenoff-abused-social-media-phone.html

That video does Wilder know favours.

He comes off looking far worse than the 160lb guy he fought in the video.

Wild swings, heavy breathing, gloves on wrong, chicken legs.

You would think a heavy weight boxer with aspirations to be a world champion would be able to connect and ko a guy 60 - 70lb lighter than him one calm precise shot.

Wilder ran towards him like an amateur, could you imagine one of the Klit's, Lewis or someone approaching the fight like he did.

I have watched some of his fights and after that video it has me convinced he is going nowhere.I wouldn't mind see him fighting Fury, two of the ultimate big mouths, I would fancy Fury, he has at least fought people.

Spazdarn

Fury isn't all that great of a boxer either, think Wilder while mega limited would eventually land on him and KO him.

walshb

Y2KBOS86 wrote: »

That video does Wilder know favours.

He comes off looking far worse than the 160lb guy he fought in the video.

Wild swings, heavy breathing, gloves on wrong, chicken legs.

You would think a heavy weight boxer with aspirations to be a world champion would be able to connect and ko a guy 60 - 70lb lighter than him one calm precise shot.

Wilder ran towards him like an amateur, could you imagine one of the Klit's, Lewis or someone approaching the fight like he did.

I have watched some of his fights and after that video it has me convinced he is going nowhere.I wouldn't mind see him fighting Fury, two of the ultimate big mouths, I would fancy Fury, he has at least fought people.

What?

Wilder dropped him twice in no time. It's not that easy to just do that to someone who is trying to defend against it. That video should not at all be an indication of Wilder's talent. He disabled the guy in seconds, and could have done far worse to him had his team not held him back.

Anyway, it's a black mark against the sport of boxing that somebody who is trying to win the sports marquee prize would be getting involved with a low life like that.

gene_tunney

walshb wrote: »

What?

Wilder dropped him twice in no time. It's not that easy to just do that to someone who is trying to defend against it.

Anyway, it's a black mark against the sport of boxing that somebody who is trying to win the sports marquee prize would be getting involved with a low life like that.

Wilder looked as bad as he does in most of his fights. Wild, flailing, couldn't even spark him. Worryingly Zelenoff is his best win to date.

walshb

gene_tunney wrote: »

Wilder looked as bad as he does in most of his fights. Wild, flailing, couldn't even spark him. Worryingly Zelenoff is his best win to date.

Wilder was also attacking in rage and anger. There's a difference. He still put the guy away very quickly.

gene_tunney

walshb wrote: »

Wilder was also attacking in rage and anger. There's a difference. He still put the guy away very quickly.

There would be a serious problem if a heavyweight contender wasn't putting an amateur middleweight who is a psychiatric case away very quickly. Zelenoff didn't even compete at amateur level, walshb you would spark him yourself

walshb

gene_tunney wrote: »

There would be a serious problem if a heavyweight contender wasn't putting an amateur middleweight who is a psychiatric case away very quickly. Zelenoff didn't even compete at amateur level, walshb you would spark him yourself

But he did sort of put him away. The altercation lasted seconds. That's how easy it was for Wilder. Just because he didn't kill him, or hospitalise him doesn't mean that he failed. The troll went to the ground in seconds. What I found odd was folks using the clip to somehow bolster their claim that Wilder is going nowhere. Ludicrous. Any HW today in that situation may have had a similar result.

Henno30

He's not a troll FFS.

The guy is mentally ill. The whole situation is an embarrassment.

walshb

Henno30 wrote: »

He's not a troll FFS.

The guy is mentally ill. The whole situation is an embarrassment.

If that is the case it makes the situation even more alarming and disturbing. Somebody(s) is entertaining and encouraging this guy.

The Mig

Zelenoff supposedly used repeated racial slurs and also slagged Wilder's daughter who has Spina Bifida. That's trolling IMO.
Wilder was in a fit of rage in the video and was basically looking to knock his head clean off.
Do people honestly think Wilder would approach a fellow pro heavyweight in a bout like he did against Zelenoff?

People suggesting that he wont be a world champion on the basis of that video really need to have a look at themselves!

Johner

The Mig wrote: »

Zelenoff supposedly used repeated racial slurs and also slagged Wilder's daughter who has Spina Bifida. That's trolling IMO.
Wilder was in a fit of rage in the video and was basically looking to knock his head clean off.

So you think inviting Zelenoff into the gym for a fight was the right thing to do? As much as Wilder wanted to beat him up doing what he did was wrong. He should have went to the police, not invite the mental case into the gym to throw digs at him no matter how angry he was.

walshb

The Mig wrote: »

People suggesting that he wont be a world champion on the basis of that video really need to have a look at themselves!

Exactly what I am thinking. The altercation was over before it began, and as mentioned by you, and me, Wilder was filled with rage. He wasn't focusing on giving some sort of technical master class.

walshb

Johner wrote: »

So you think inviting Zelenoff into the gym for a fight was the right thing to do? As much as Wilder wanted to beat him up doing what he did was wrong. He should have went to the police, not invite the mental case into the gym to throw digs at him no matter how angry he was.

Agreed. This sort of activity is bad for the sport. It's bad, period!

Senor Frog

The worst bit of the whole thing was the cheap shot wilder threw to his downed opponent . If he had connected with that it would have nothing short of assault

AdolfHipster

Think any point worth talking about in the HW division is a positive given that it has died a death over the past few years with Klitscko dominance and lack of high quality opposition - so in that sense I see why people like Wilder. For me though, I can't take notice until he stops fighting taxi-drivers. I like his kill or be killed style and his power but my god does he have an diabolicle eggshell chin.

It'll be fun while it lasts for him. Until a notable puncher in the HW division knocks him into a post-apocolyptic future.

Johnnythefox4

Jesus, that was like Drederick Tatum vs Homer Simpson :pac:

TBH though Wlad vs Wilder is the only heavyweight fight that I would be excited about

Dublin Red Devil

Johnnythefox4 wrote: »

Jesus, that was like Drederick Tatum vs Homer Simpson :pac:

TBH though Wlad vs Wilder is the only heavyweight fight that I would be excited about

Yeah. I think it would be huge. Wilder v Klitschko especially if the fight could be made in America,

coronaextra

pac_man wrote: »

I know the guy he's fighting looks like a fat middleweight but I thought this knockout was classy.

Classy Knockout??? it would be an insult to bums to call that opponent a bum.

Just looked up the video and it was 4 years ago. I was worried this was the caliber of opponent wilder is fighting to prepare for the step up to Klitschko :pac:

Dublin Red Devil

9 days out for his big night

32 fights 32 wins 32 Knockouts

Soon to be Heavyweight champion of the world, I predict by Knockout again inside 4 rounds

Dublin Red Devil

Stiverne V Wilder
WBC World Heavyweight Championship
January 17 2015
MGM Grand Las Vegas

Talib Fiasco

Wilder's only chance is catching Stiverne inside two rounds. Stiverne will take over pretty easily after weathering the storm and will most likely knock out Wilder as Wilder isn't the best at taking a punch. I hope Wilder wins, I just cannot see it happening

Dublin Red Devil

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Wilder's only chance is catching Stiverne inside two rounds. Stiverne will take over pretty easily after weathering the storm and will most likely knock out Wilder as Wilder isn't the best at taking a punch. I hope Wilder wins, I just cannot see it happening

I believe Wilder will win this fight. I agree that the longer it lasts, the harder it will be for him. But I think he will come prepared for this and win by KO in the early rounds.

walshb

pac_man wrote: »

How in the name of God did Wilder land a world title shot when his toughest opponent to date on paper was Malik Scott and Scott was coming off a knock out loss from Chisora? Is this a voluntary defence or is it just the clout that surrounds Haymon fighters.

Welcome to pro boxing..... Where have you been?

He's mandatory challenger with WBC. I don't think he is rated high by the WBA, but he is rated by the WBO.

Dublin Red Devil

Yeah he's the mandatory challenger. Plus you could also say that it is in the interest the heavyweight division and the whole of boxing that an American heavyweight with a brash and charismatic personality is fighting in Vegas for the World championship.

barney4001

the very limited Demetrice King beat Stiverne in 4 rounds cannot see him lasting beyond 2 against wilder

Big Ears

barney4001 wrote: »

the very limited Demetrice King beat Stiverne in 4 rounds cannot see him lasting beyond 2 against wilder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoJubjV8ETo

Almost 8 years ago and it was a very premature stoppage imo, Stiverne was a little gassed but not really hurt imo. He was winning the fight, and had dropped the iron chinned King before the refs intervention. So I don't think you can take much from that.
What you could take more from is the fact Stiverne has beat 2 much higher calibre fighters than King, in Chris Arreola (x2) and the underated Ray Austin.

Stiverne is technically a much better fighter but he's got two major problems here. One is the height & reach advantage of Wilder, and the 2nd is Stiverne's tendency to shell up or stand in from of a guy and not do too much. It's moments like that, guy could see Wilder's looping right hand do a lot of damage.
It's a hard fight to call in terms of a winner, but I'd be very surprised if we don't get a stoppage here.

Talib Fiasco

On of the worst stoppages I have ever seen in my life. Up there with Taylor/Chavez.