Drone Flight OVer City

Red Nissan

Not my work, wish it was though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRgYuK4epfM&feature=youtu.be

ofcork

Just watched it there gives a different perspective from the air.

Outkast_IRE

Great video well worth watching,

However i must wonder if this guy has the proper qualifications and permissions to be doing this type of work. To my knowledge you need permissions from Irish aviation authority. https://www.iaa.ie/unmanned-air-systems

As well as being certified to use them. It would be a dangerous if for any reason the drone was to fail, would probably cause serious injury or damage from that height.

He seems well geared up though so he might be a professional in this area.

11811

Outkast_IRE wrote: »

Great video well worth watching,

However i must wonder if this guy has the proper qualifications and permissions to be doing this type of work. To my knowledge you need permissions from Irish aviation authority. https://www.iaa.ie/unmanned-air-systems

As well as being certified to use them. It would be a dangerous if for any reason the drone was to fail, would probably cause serious injury or damage from that height.

He seems well geared up though so he might be a professional in this area.

You do indeed need clearance from the IAA to fly these lads, be surprised if he was given clearance as it's not too far from a busy enough flight path.

Now that said, it's a great perspective of the city.

Outkast_IRE

11811 wrote: »

You do indeed need clearance from the IAA to fly these lads, be surprised if he was given clearance as it's not too far from a busy enough flight path.

Now that said, it's a great perspective of the city.

The flight path and safety issue would be the greatest worry, now this guy does seem to be well used to the equipment etc, but I would worry that some copy cats would try similar with deadly results.

MrFrisp

Nice one for that Red Nissan.

It's fantastic viewing.. I love it.

What would the max distance be for it to be flown?

It's great to see the City from that view.
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the_syco

Outkast_IRE wrote: »

Great video well worth watching,

However i must wonder if this guy has the proper qualifications and permissions to be doing this type of work. To my knowledge you need permissions from Irish aviation authority. https://www.iaa.ie/unmanned-air-systems

Since you can build your own for about €115, I'd wonder many people register with the IAA?

rovoagho

Superb. What I love most about perspectives like this is the inside of city blocks, the cramped mess of buildings that they end up, but usually with little cubbies of light and even greenery. Speaking of which, I had absolutely no idea there was that much green behind Shandon. None. Really must pop in there some day, I've put it off for years.

Well done that man. I'd love to know what quad he has, the handling and video are, again, superb.

Rhys Essien

rovoagho wrote: »

Superb. What I love most about perspectives like this is the inside of city blocks, the cramped mess of buildings that they end up, but usually with little cubbies of light and even greenery. Speaking of which, I had absolutely no idea there was that much green behind Shandon. None. Really must pop in there some day, I've put it off for years.

Well done that man. I'd love to know what quad he has, the handling and video are, again, superb.

The comments say it is this
http://www.dji.com/product/phantom

Must say the city looks good from the air.Cant believe that he forgot to do a flyby of the Elysian.

Lets hope we dont hear of a Ryanair jet aborting a landing for his next video.:D

JohnK

Very impressive alright however I'm a bit surprised at the distance it managed to cover, the site says it has an "effective control distance up to 300 meters" but surely it went a lot further than that from where it took off?

Rhys Essien

Rhys Essien wrote: »

The comments say it is this
http://www.dji.com/product/phantom

Must say the city looks good from the air.Cant believe that he forgot to do a flyby of the Elysian.

Lets hope we dont hear of a Ryanair jet aborting a landing for his next video.:D

On second thoughts,he would of had to fly over Anglesea St. Garda station.

Well planned pilot.:)

JohnK

I'm a bit surprised he flew over the courthouse though

Flesh Gorden

Came close enough to Rathmore Road too, a drone like that could be useful for certain ahem... deliveries

Nukem

That a great clip

Wayne in the plane is fired!

podmu80

Great clip that, great views of the city.
For some reason I would love a night time version, just to see the city light up from above. It always looks great when coming into land at the airport by night.

Stargate

JohnK wrote: »

Very impressive alright however I'm a bit surprised at the distance it managed to cover, the site says it has an "effective control distance up to 300 meters" but surely it went a lot further than that from where it took off?

I read "Communication Distance 1000m " , but from where he took off and went , it has to be much much further than that again !

I'm not 100% sure on the model used , i think someone on Youtube commented on the DJIPhantom but it wasn't the uploader Raymond Fogarty . Very impressive tho .

Anybody have more info on the model used etc , specs ? distance ??

EDIT : i think he flew south of St Finbarrs Cathedral almost into Greenmount from take-off somewhere near Ardparick ( sorry not sure where ) on the Northside of the City . Just a guess that must be almost 1.5 miles ??

the dark phantom

Enjoyable video..

Rhys Essien

podmu80 wrote: »

Great clip that, great views of the city.
For some reason I would love a night time version, just to see the city light up from above. It always looks great when coming into land at the airport by night.

Not a video but a great night shot of the city here.(See post no.60)

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056145173&page=4

imitation

Rhys Essien wrote: »

On second thoughts,he would of had to fly over Anglesea St. Garda station.

Well planned pilot.:)

To avoid their SAM silo ? :P Can't imagine they are going to go looking for somebody flying a model aircraft, all they have to do anyway is wait for him to upload a video to youtube

Red Nissan

Pity to hear on Ref FM just now a [expert] decrying the video and really being a scare monger.

MrFrisp

Red Nissan wrote: »

Pity to hear on Ref FM just not a [expert] decrying the video and really being a scare monger.

Yup,, a right bore..

Look, he maybe had a few points, but why take away what is clearly a fantastic clip.

As Neil Prenderville pointed out though, if any planes were that close to where the drone was to have been affected, We'd all have been in trouble.
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the beer revolu

Do we know that he/she didn't have air traffic control clearance?

Red Nissan

FYI, he was flying not much higher than 240ft, that being the height of St Finbarr's Cathedral.

That's well below the 500ft maximum altitude for nearby traffic as per air traffic.

If a jet were to have flown that low over the Cathedral its jet wash would likely have toppled the spires.

imitation

Should we erectgiant bird nets around the city next ? Think of the damage a kamazie heron could inflict! Think of the children joe!

TheChizler

I agree it was a great video but the guy on RedFM was pretty spot on regarding injuring someone though, if there was a fault and it lost control at that altitude there could be serious damage if it hit someone, or hit a car causing it to crash or something. These quad copters are only made for recreational purposes, they're basically expensive toys, their components are only consumer rated, not rated for aeronautical purposes, which makes the likelihood of something going wrong a lot greater. Grand in an empty field or beach, but to operate them in a populated area over pedestrians and traffic is frankly reckless.

IAA Operations Advisory: Operation of Remotely Piloted Aircraft Systems in Irish Airspace wrote:

4.5 RPAS Operating Procedures - System with a Mass Less Than 20kg
In addition to the operating conditions detailed in 4.4 above the following specific conditions will be applied to RPAS operations for systems with a mass of less than 20kg as part of the IAA permissions and exemptions process:
(a) the aircraft shall not be operated beyond Visual Line of Sight (VLOS) and not further than 500 metres from the point of operation;
(b) the aircraft shall not be operated at a height of more than 120 metres (400 feet) above ground level;
(c) the aircraft shall not be operated over or within the confines of a congested area except with the written permission of the Authority;
(d) the aircraft shall not be operated within controlled airspace except with the written permission of the Controlling Authority;
(e) the aircraft shall not be operated within an aerodrome traffic zone or closer than 8 kilometres (5 nautical miles) from an aerodrome boundary, whichever is the greatest distance, except with the written permission of the Controlling Authority;
(f) the aircraft shall not be operated over any assembly of persons on the ground nor closer than 150 metres laterally from such an assembly;
(g) the aircraft shall not be operated within 150 metres of any person, vessel, vehicle or structure not under the control of the aircraft operator; during take-off or landing however, the aircraft must not be flown within 50 metres of any person, unless that person is under the control of the aircraft operator.
(g) the aircraft shall not be operated closer than 2 kilometres from an aircraft in flight;
(h) the aircraft shall not be operated unless there is in place a third party liability insurance policy covering the operation of the system which is acceptable to the Authority.

It would appear that all but (g) of the above were broken, I don't know how legally enforceable these operational advisories are, but it would certainly be best practice to adhere to them.

I know it's a bit of fun and looks great, but if something had gone wrong it would be a very different conversation.

Harry Angstrom

Does anyone have another link to this, other than the Youtube link in the OP?
It doesn't seem to be accessible any more.

Dannyboy83

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Does anyone have another link to this, other than the Youtube link in the OP?
It doesn't seem to be accessible any more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV9bQYAdX94

Harry Angstrom

Dannyboy83 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV9bQYAdX94

Cheers.

Red Nissan

Dannyboy83 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV9bQYAdX94

This is a seriously terrible video. Seriously not worth watching this version with music and totally degraded video quality.

I'm glad I saw the original, fantastic graphics and as an enthusiast, I prefer hearing the motor noises rather than canned music.

Harry Angstrom

Red Nissan wrote: »

This is a seriously terrible video. Seriously not worth watching this version with music and totally degraded video quality.

I'm glad I saw the original, fantastic graphics and as an enthusiast, I prefer hearing the motor noises rather than canned music.

Any idea why the original isn't available any more?

Red Nissan

I don't know, but it was fantastic.

zetalambda

I had a feeling the video wouldn't be available for too long so I downloaded it from YouTube and have it saved to my hard-drive. Will re-upload it and post a link in the next few days.

evilivor

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Any idea why the original isn't available any more?

Because he was breaking the law?

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/drone-pilot-denies-claims-he-acted-recklessly-while-filming-cork-video-266609.html

daveohdave

Paudie Barry of Baseline Surveys Ltd said he felt “a bit sick” watching the video

Honest to god. I can understand people trying to protect their businesses, but to paint it as anything other than that is just plain pathetic.

TheChizler

daveohdave wrote: »

Honest to god. I can understand people trying to protect their businesses, but to paint it as anything other than that is just plain pathetic.

Do you disagree with what he said though?

Personally I think it was a bit naive and reckless, untrained and using a non-aerospace rated device in a populated area, over traffic and property. It's unlikely, but could have failed with possible health consequences to the people below. Even the manufacturer says only use in unpopulated areas.

daveohdave

Yeah, they could've caught cancer or anything.

zetalambda

Just tried to upload it to YouTube but it was rejected.

daveohdave

Trim a minute or two off the start or the end.

dj_

Or upload it somewhere else?

zetalambda

daveohdave wrote: »

Trim a minute or two off the start or the end.

I took a bit off the start and the end.

dj_ wrote: »

Or upload it somewhere else?

If someone can suggest a good video hosting site that will allow me to upload without any type of registration, I'll gladly upload it.

mordeith

zetalambda wrote: »

I took a bit off the start and the end.




If someone can suggest a good video hosting site that will allow me to upload without any type of registration, I'll gladly upload it.

You could stick it on Google Drive and make the link public?

AugustusMinimus

zetalambda wrote: »

I took a bit off the start and the end.




If someone can suggest a good video hosting site that will allow me to upload without any type of registration, I'll gladly upload it.

Upload it on Dailymotion. If there are Prince songs still on Dailymotion, I think an aerial video of Cork is safe enough.

zetalambda

https://mega.co.nz/#!ENZ2gY7D!1Lgm0ZycKidZ3Q4zb188S00sMYzBbMupohQbHVkk3M4

tawnyowl

daveohdave wrote: »

Yeah, they could've caught cancer or anything.

There have been accidents:
In Manhattan, in September 2013:
http://7online.com/archive/9292217/
http://7online.com/archive/9270668/
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-02/drone-operator-fined-after-almost-hitting-nyc-pedestrian.html

In Virginia, USA:
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/08/drone-hits-spectators-watching-the-running-of-the-bulls-in-virginia/279040/

In Geraldton, Australia:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/08/air-safety-triathlete-struck-drone
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-29/casa-quizzes-geraldton-drone-crash-witnesses/5418414

The Manhattan crash fortunately caused no injuries, despite the owner losing control and hitting several buildings and it hit the pavement. The Virginia incident caused minor injuries (though nobody was hospitalised). The athlete injured in Geraldton was taken to hospital. The investigation into that is still ongoing, but it seems her account is considered credible and it may have been the result of a malfunction.

daveohdave

Indeed, those three incidents demonstrate a significant risk to society. We should also ban tethered remote control cars that small children use, due to the slight increased risk of ankle bruises, and light damage to furniture. Also cats, for the same reasons.

bumper234

daveohdave wrote: »

Indeed, those three incidents demonstrate a significant risk to society. We should also ban tethered remote control cars that small children use, due to the slight increased risk of ankle bruises, and light damage to furniture. Also cats, for the same reasons.

Does a small remote car have the potential crash through the windscreen of a car on a busy motorway? Yes yes i know i will get hit with ZOMG "way to overreact" and "Bah the chances of that happening are miniscule" but the fact is that it is something that COULD happen and that is why there are rules and laws against this type of thing.

sensormatic

well if i see it in the sky i gonna get it with my black widow,,,,long time since i used it like

the beer revolu

daveohdave wrote: »

Indeed, those three incidents demonstrate a significant risk to society. We should also ban tethered remote control cars that small children use, due to the slight increased risk of ankle bruises, and light damage to furniture. Also cats, for the same reasons.

Sure no point in gun control either. Sure accidents rarely happen. Oh and lets allow children to ride on the backs of tractors - I did it and it did me no harm!
What's the deal with seat belts? My mam's car had none when I was small and I never once went through the windscreen.

Nanny state. Pffft!

snaphook

Would be a good idea to have a fund raiser for him to get the License so we can see more videos like this and keep the "think of the children" brigade schtum. Very impressive video.

the beer revolu

snaphook wrote: »

Would be a good idea to have a fund raiser for him to get the License so we can see more videos like this and keep the "think of the children" brigade schtum. Very impressive video.

He still wouldn't be allowed to fly over populated areas. I've only witnessed drones flying twice and I've seen two drones crash - really- both flown by licenced, experienced operators. A drone crashing is not just a vague possibility. A drone coming down on a main road could have very serious consequences. Yes, it's lovely to see the video of the city but despite what some very vocal people here think, it was a dangerous, stupid and (afaik) iillegal thing to do.

lolosaur

the beer revolu wrote: »

He still wouldn't be allowed to fly over populated areas. I've only witnessed drones flying twice and I've seen two drones crash - really- both flown by licenced, experienced operators. A drone crashing is not just a vague possibility. A drone coming down on a main road could have very serious consequences. Yes, it's lovely to see the video of the city but despite what some very vocal people here think, it was a dangerous, stupid and (afaik) iillegal thing to do.

I bet your a blast at parties.