Limerick vets under threat from animal abuse gangs

Foxhound38

Just saw this story here and it really got to me. It was from a few days ago so apologies if it's already been covered.

What the hell is the matter with these people? Why threaten a vet trying to help a dying animal? What could they possibly be getting out of doing this?

It makes no sense to me... :mad:

losthorizon

I dont know... scumbags

Seriously these guys should be prosecuted.

Muise...

They may have been trying to avoid being identified as the owners of the animal, and prosecution for their scumbaggery. :mad:

wazky

Vermin will be vermin, since when did excuses ever bother them?

demanufactured

Bring back the gas chamber.

Ave Sodalis

Living in the Castletroy area, I've seen these "youths" (they're not all young) about. As a horsey person, I am horrified by their behaviour... some of the ponies are only foals that are in those sulkies. It makes me furious when I go past the gravel area they keep their horses in with a tiny bit of food and when I hear the clip-clop of the poor ponies trotting past and barely a pick on them.
Last year, I was walking home and seen three ponies walking around my estate where I was living at the time. They were in awful condition. The Gardai were called and the two that came out were afraid of horses :rolleyes: Had to let them out go in a field because there was no-one around that would help due to who owned the ponies.
I have a better use for those bullets the vet was threatened with though...

Frosty McSnowballs

Fcuking dickheads.

What type of fcuktard kicks a pony to death?! I genuinely wish the worst on them.

My name is URL

A HORSE was left dying for over three hours beside a busy Limerick city roundabout after a vet was warned that he’d get a bullet in the head if he tried to help the suffering animal.

Where were the gardai in that three and a half hours =/

Pumpkinseeds

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

Fcuking dickheads.

What type of fcuktard kicks a pony to death?! I genuinely wish the worst on them.

The same type who ran a heavily bleeding horse on a sulky a stones throw from the halting site at Clondrinagh. At least 1 horse died that night. When are we going to see an end to keeping horses in housing estates and the abolition of sulkies. Some people need horsewhipping:mad:

ABajaninCork

If that's the way these 'people' treat dumb animals, just imagine what they'd be like to their fellow man...

I can't put into words what I feel about this vermin -I'd likely be banned :mad:

SEPT 23 1989

would they be gangs who like to travel?

Ave Sodalis

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

would they be gangs who like to travel?

Now that you mention it, it would be indeed

DarkJager

It's their culture boss

Muise...

DarkJager wrote: »

It's their culture ethnicity boss

update. :rolleyes:

SEPT 23 1989

sup_dude wrote: »

Now that you mention it, it would be indeed

thought as much

dilallio

My name is URL wrote: »

Where were the gardai in that three and a half hours =/

Good point.

Unfortunately organisations are afraid to publicly criticize either the Gardai or Government, as they rely on public funding which could be reduced or withdrawn on a politician's whim :mad:

Galwayguy35

No fear you will hear Martin Collins on the radio when things like this happen.

Riddle101

Even if these kids got arrested I bet they'd get away with it because they're underage. A house on my road had an attempted break in, recently. Two old people live there, and the the two guys who tried to break in were 17 years old and they were caught on CCTV. The Gadaí knew who they were but couldn't do anything because they underage. Really sad state of affairs when you can't even punish people for breaking the law anymore.

suicide_circus

My name is URL wrote: »

Where were the gardai in that three and a half hours =/

Was on a bus the other day and the driver had to stop and call the gardai to deal with an unruly passenger. I could SEE pearse street (dublin) garda station out the window. 15 minutes later, still no sign of the boys in blue and the incident ended of its own accord, luckily without violence.

BMMachine

chemically neuter them.

Ireland has a scumbag problem. They are doing this because they like to piss people off. no other reason. they arent important but want to feel important so why not do super scummy things just to piss people off. they have nothing to lose and they know it. so what do they add? nothing. why not make sure that they cant procreate? its a violation of human rights but if they are going so far out of their way to prove that they dont value any rights of any creature on this planet, then why not cut them off from the genetic tree? they add nothing to anything and will continue to be a hindrance to civility. end them

My name is URL

suicide_circus wrote: »

Was on a bus the other day and the driver had to stop and call the gardai to deal with an unruly passenger. I could SEE pearse street (dublin) garda station out the window. 15 minutes later, still no sign of the boys in blue and the incident ended of its own accord, luckily without violence.

It's beyond insane at this stage. Look at that video that appeared a couple of weeks ago where a load of goons were kicking in the door of a shop on one of the country's busiest streets.. 2 Garda stations within 10 minutes walking distance and it took them over a half hour to show up. It's a wonder nobody was killed in that incident because members of the public were stepping in trying to bring an end to the madness.

Here we have a vet having their life threatened by a gang. And the only mention of gardai in the article is about how they're now 'investigating'. It quite clearly states that an animal was left to suffer on a busy road for over 3 hours after the threat was made. Is it any wonder these scobes think they can get away with anything?... they bloody well can! Place is becoming totally lawless.

Panda_Turtle

BMMachine wrote: »

chemically neuter them.

Ireland has a scumbag problem. They are doing this because they like to piss people off. no other reason. they arent important but want to feel important so why not do super scummy things just to piss people off. they have nothing to lose and they know it. so what do they add? nothing. why not make sure that they cant procreate? its a violation of human rights but if they are going so far out of their way to prove that they dont value any rights of any creature on this planet, then why not cut them off from the genetic tree? they add nothing to anything and will continue to be a hindrance to civility. end them

If only!!

SEPT 23 1989

Are the Gardai consciously just doing the bare minimum since the wage cuts etc?

Foxhound38

My name is URL wrote: »

It's beyond insane at this stage. Look at that video that appeared a couple of weeks ago where a load of goons were kicking in the door of a shop on one of the country's busiest streets.. 2 Garda stations within 10 minutes walking distance and it took them over a half hour to show up. It's a wonder nobody was killed in that incident because members of the public were stepping in trying to bring an end to the madness.

Here we have a vet having their life threatened by a gang. And the only mention of gardai in the article is about how they're now 'investigating'. It quite clearly states that an animal was left to suffer on a busy road for over 3 hours after the threat was made. Is it any wonder these scobes think they can get away with anything?... they bloody well can! Place is becoming totally lawless.

What can the gardai do really? The courts won't send the scum down, and they are cut to ribbons resources-wise...

The scum rule the streets in places, but society seems to have no concrete plans in place to stop them

Dan_Solo

Foxhound38 wrote: »

What can the gardai do really? The courts won't send the scum down, and they are cut to ribbons resources-wise...

The scum rule the streets in places, but society seems to have no concrete plans in place to stop them

You're saying cops are refusing to do their jobs as some kind of protest over lenient sentencing?
No chance they're just incompetent and lazy?

My name is URL

Foxhound38 wrote: »

What can the gardai do really? The courts won't send the scum down, and they are cut to ribbons resources-wise...

The scum rule the streets in places, but society seems to have no concrete plans in place to stop them

I don't envy what they're up against from all sides, but their resources haven't been cut to the point where it's justifiable for them to have horrendously bad response times for such serious and dangerous incidents.

They seem to be doing alright in their quest against people growing their own weed, for example. There has been a massive increase in the number of raids over the last year. Maybe they should be concentrating their time and resources elsewhere.

entropi

Because, OP, people like that need to be put down and utterly destroyed for being massive gowls :mad:

Rabbo

Im so bloody sick of reading about stories like this. Isnt is about time that we stop pussy-footing around the serious criminality surrounding certain ethnic groups in this country. These people are responsible for a massively disproportionate amount of crime in relation to their population and are hugely over-represented in our prisons, not to mention the low level welfare fraud and tax evasion that they never seem to be held responsible for.
They have a vocal lobbying group to represent their interests of course however the same group don't seem to be interested in dealing with the considerable negative effect they have on the rest of society. Surely we can't continue indefinitely while a distinct group which form a small minority of our population cause such a negative social and financial impact on the rest of society.
There has to be some kind of meaningful engagement with these people to change this engrained belief that they are outside normal society and only have to abide by its rules when it's of benefit to them

demanufactured

Rabbo wrote: »

Im so bloody sick of reading about stories like this. Isnt is about time that we stop pussy-footing around the serious criminality surrounding certain ethnic groups in this country. These people are responsible for a massively disproportionate amount of crime in relation to their population and are hugely over-represented in our prisons, not to mention the low level welfare fraud and tax evasion that they never seem to be held responsible for.
They have a vocal lobbying group to represent their interests of course however the same group don't seem to be interested in dealing with the considerable negative effect they have on the rest of society. Surely we can't continue indefinitely while a distinct group which form a small minority of our population cause such a negative social and financial impact on the rest of society.
There has to be some kind of meaningful engagement with these people to change this engrained belief that they are outside normal society and only have to abide by its rules when it's of benefit to them

Hear hear......

Pumpkinseeds

Rabbo wrote: »

Im so bloody sick of reading about stories like this. Isnt is about time that we stop pussy-footing around the serious criminality surrounding certain ethnic groups in this country. These people are responsible for a massively disproportionate amount of crime in relation to their population and are hugely over-represented in our prisons, not to mention the low level welfare fraud and tax evasion that they never seem to be held responsible for.
They have a vocal lobbying group to represent their interests of course however the same group don't seem to be interested in dealing with the considerable negative effect they have on the rest of society. Surely we can't continue indefinitely while a distinct group which form a small minority of our population cause such a negative social and financial impact on the rest of society.
There has to be some kind of meaningful engagement with these people to change this engrained belief that they are outside normal society and only have to abide by its rules when it's of benefit to them

Yeah, and before long they'll be a recognised Ethnicity, giving them even more free reign to do as they like. We express our genuine contempt for their behaviour and we get a ban or a lot of criticism, they do what they like and it's their culture.

SEPT 23 1989

Rabbo wrote: »

Im so bloody sick of reading about stories like this. Isnt is about time that we stop pussy-footing around the serious criminality surrounding certain ethnic groups in this country. These people are responsible for a massively disproportionate amount of crime in relation to their population and are hugely over-represented in our prisons, not to mention the low level welfare fraud and tax evasion that they never seem to be held responsible for.
They have a vocal lobbying group to represent their interests of course however the same group don't seem to be interested in dealing with the considerable negative effect they have on the rest of society. Surely we can't continue indefinitely while a distinct group which form a small minority of our population cause such a negative social and financial impact on the rest of society.
There has to be some kind of meaningful engagement with these people to change this engrained belief that they are outside normal society and only have to abide by its rules when it's of benefit to them

99.9% of the country are sick of them

goose2005

Meanwhile, a shetland pony was kicked to death by a gang of youths aged between 12 and 14 years of age on the Hyde Road at the weekend

This is the most horrifying thing. Even the worst people I knew at age 12-14 wouldn't have done anything like that. I can remember everyone being utterly disgusted at one guy who used a banger to blow up an already-dead cat.

Dan_Solo

It would be pretty simple to make a law banning horse ownership from anybody who doesn't have a farm or a few acres of land.
It would be next to impossible to get the Gardai to bother their h0le to enforce it though. They can't get to riots a few yards from Pearse Street station, so good luck in a Limerick suburb.

hmmm

A tiny minority are holding Limerick to ransom. Guards are barely to be seen - the people who do this to a horse will move on to doing it to a person if they are not held to account at this stage. What can we do when the politicians do nothing?

Galway K9

sup_dude wrote: »

Now that you mention it, it would be indeed

Id say if we made an anti pc assumption of the group that is referred to, wed be correct.

Dan_Solo

Galway K9 wrote: »

Id say if we made an anti pc assumption of the group that is referred to, wed be correct.

But but but what about that documentary that showed how they just totally love their hosses?

Foxhound38

Dan_Solo wrote: »

You're saying cops are refusing to do their jobs as some kind of protest over lenient sentencing?
No chance they're just incompetent and lazy?

No, I'm saying we're not equipping the gardai to do their jobs properly, or towards any meaningful effect when it comes to dealing with scum

Dan_Solo

Foxhound38 wrote: »

No, I'm saying we're not equipping the gardai to do their jobs properly, or towards any meaningful effect when it comes to dealing with scum

They have riot gear. They have paddy wagons. They have holding cells.
They're also not afraid of dishing it out when it's students or reclaim the streets hippies.
So, why do they appear to be so afraid of tackling this group of tough and violent people to the point where they routinely wait until the battles are over and they just pick up the leftovers?
Sort of answered myself there, eh...

Ave Sodalis

Dan_Solo wrote: »

It would be pretty simple to make a law banning horse ownership from anybody who doesn't have a farm or a few acres of land.

Which would actually not allow a huge proportion of responsible owners to have horses...

Snake

Dan_Solo wrote: »

They have riot gear. They have paddy wagons. They have holding cells.
They're also not afraid of dishing it out when it's students or reclaim the streets hippies.
So, why do they appear to be so afraid of tackling this group of tough and violent people to the point where they routinely wait until the battles are over and they just pick up the leftovers?
Sort of answered myself there, eh...

Sure I know a group of school age lads who were beat to **** over an empty bag of weed. But beat a horse to death and nothing happens. Bastards.

Dan_Solo

sup_dude wrote: »

Which would actually not allow a huge proportion of responsible owners to have horses...

Yes, but they have access, and I mean legal access, to land, right?

wendell borton

There were plenty of guards protecting the gas pipeline in mayo who had no problem showing aggression towards peaceful protestors.

Ave Sodalis

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Yes, but they have access, and I mean legal access, to land, right?

Nope, many people use a livery yard, where they pay others to stable their horses. The owners themselves have nothing to do with land or anything else. That's up to the yard owners.

Rabbo

Dan_Solo wrote: »

It would be pretty simple to make a law banning horse ownership from anybody who doesn't have a farm or a few acres of land.
It would be next to impossible to get the Gardai to bother their h0le to enforce it though. They can't get to riots a few yards from Pearse Street station, so good luck in a Limerick suburb.

Theres already reasonable legislation in place for the control of horses including restrictions in urban areas and requirement for a licence for each horse - http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/environment/animal_welfare_and_control/control_of_horses.html

Of course, these laws aren't observed by the usual suspects and there seems to be little appetite to enforce them properly.

Dan_Solo

sup_dude wrote: »

Nope, many people use a livery yard, where they pay others to stable their horses. The owners themselves have nothing to do with land or anything else. That's up to the yard owners.

I know we all strive for accuracy but you're fairly determined to split hairs here aren't you?

Ave Sodalis

Dan_Solo wrote: »

I know we all strive for accuracy but you're fairly determined to split hairs here aren't you?

Um, no?
A large amount of people don't have access to land or a farm so they pay someone else who does to keep their horses. The horse owners don't have rights or access to the land themselves... I don't see how this is splitting hairs.

mickydoomsux

Rabbo wrote: »

Of course, these laws aren't observed by the usual suspects and there seems to be little appetite to enforce them properly.

Because nothing will happen when it goes to court because of our delusion, out-of-touch judges and legal system.

"I'm very sorry sur, i won't do it again sur" says the scummy young lad in his best court get up.

"Throw a few quid in the court poor box and off you go" says the judge.

Fast forward to the fella stabbing someone or beating someone into a coma a couple of years later.

And on and on........

end of the road

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

No fear you will hear Martin Collins on the radio when things like this happen.

yeah, because Martin Collins really condones this sort of thing, grow up.
so what if he comes on radio, if people used acts of verminry like this as a stick to beat the scum that did this with, rather then use it as a stick to beat all the traveling community with along with every other thing that isn't unique to the traveling community, then Martin Collins wouldn't have to come on the radio

end of the road

Rabbo wrote: »

They have a vocal lobbying group to represent their interests of course however the same group don't seem to be interested in dealing with the considerable negative effect they have on the rest of society.

wrong, pavee point do work behind the sceenes, they have said that themselves, and i've never heard anyone from that group on radio condoning any bad behaviour or excusing it, however if your looking for them to say how all travelers are scum and criminals you can forget about it, its not going to happen and rightly so, leave that nonsense to the gutter rags

Cantremember

losthorizon wrote: »

I dont know... scumbags

Seriously these guys should be ....






prosecuted.

Do you think they give a ****?

RoyalMarine

We have a military. Why can't they be used against gangs to ensure civil peace is kept?

A few hundred soldiers armed with steyr's would act as a major deterrence in places like this.