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afghanistan war would you have gone

  • 20-04-2014 7:02pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭


    Would you have joined an army , navy seals etc and gone into war the afghanistan war.

    I am not sure if I would of gone into war welling. If I was made to go by my country well that would be different.
    Than again if you survivored we would some stories to tell.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    faaaack no.

    I'm a coward and proud to admit it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    Would depend if anything better was on?
    cena wrote: »
    Would you have joined an army , navy seals etc and gone into war the afghanistan war.

    I am not sure if I would of gone into war welling. If I was made to go by my country well that would be different.
    Than again if you survivored we would some stories to tell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    cena wrote: »
    Would you have joined an army , navy seals etc and gone into war the afghanistan war.

    I am not sure if I would of gone into war welling. If I was made to go by my country well that would be different.
    Than again if you survivored we would some stories to tell.

    I'd have been welling too, and possibly cacking also, with a dash of squealing like a little b*tch. Those Afghans have guns and stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭The One Doctor


    I think you're on the wrong site. Very few Irish people went to Afghanistan because we're not UK citizens.

    TLDR: No, we're Irish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    You must consider a lot of the guys/girls that went, were ultimately lied to being told the entire country was controlled by Al Qaeda, that Osama would be found there.

    Then they got people to sign up on promises of a short war, college fees would be paid for those who served their time, benefits, learn a trade etc etc.

    with the amount of mis-information and promises being fed to the American youth at the time, I guarantee you a lot of my friends would of considered joining up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Local-womanizer


    Getting into the Navy Seals would be you're first major obstacle! Read up about hell week! Never mind war, fcuk that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Just so ye know I am watching lone survivor. My cousins husband was out there but not on the field as they say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭upstairs for coffee


    faaaack no.

    I'm a coward and proud to admit it
    I think choosing not to fight a pointless war for politicians and intellegience agencies cannot be considered cowardly.

    Quite a smart decision actually!


  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    Shouldn't there be an "if" in there somewhere? I presume you mean if you were living in the states, or the UK perhaps.

    And no, not unless there was immediate peril to my family. You get nothing but trouble going into a country you're not wanted in. Not there to fight, and half the population don't want you there.

    I've always thought if older men were sent in first, wars would be fewer and farther between.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    cena wrote: »
    Just so ye know I am watching lone survivor. My cousins husband was out there but not on the field as they say

    They say "in the field".

    Are you drunk posting Mr. Mitty?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Getting into the Navy Seals would be you're first major obstacle! Read up about hell week! Never mind war, fcuk that!

    I know all about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Yes if I had my time over again I would have joined up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    cena wrote: »
    I know all about it.

    O_o LOL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭Birroc


    Getting into the Navy Seals would be you're first major obstacle! Read up about hell week!

    It's a land locked country so I can't imagine the Navy Seal training would be much use! :confused::)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Heart Break Kid


    Question should be: Would you join the US military if it was an option.

    Once you do it not like you have a huge choice where you are deployed.

    Even still I'd like to think I would have the balls to join a operating army but I wouldn't know until if it was really presented in front of me.

    Did look into the Irish and UK Army but nothing more than research.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭cena


    MarkR wrote: »
    Shouldn't there be an "if" in there somewhere? I presume you mean if you were living in the states, or the UK perhaps.


    Well no if ireland was a big country with a big army and they where in the war.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    I was on reserve to go last year but didn't get to go in the end unfortunately.

    Would have made for a memorable experience.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭The One Who Knocks


    I was on reserve to go last year but didn't get to go in the end unfortunately.

    Would have made for a memorable experience.

    Unfortunately?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    I suppose if I joined an army involved in conflicts I would expect to go to war. Isn't that a big part of what a professional army does after all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭cena


    O_o LOL

    I'm not say I tried out for seals. Just from the discovery channel thing they did


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    I was on reserve to go last year but didn't get to go in the end unfortunately.

    Would have made for a memorable experience.

    Put my name in the hat here too, didn't get picked :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    Unfortunately?

    It would have been a memorable experience plus i'd have gotten paid extra for going. I wouldn't have been outside Bastion in anycase so not as risky as an infantry deployment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Poly


    There have been many wars,invasions,military actions in Afghanistan.

    I think Rudyard Kipling summed it up best in 1895

    "When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, best roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your god like a soldier."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I've been there.

    I've seen horrors, horrors that you've seen. But you have no right to call me a murderer. You have a right to kill me. You have a right to do that, but you have no right to judge me. It's impossible for words to describe what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror! Horror has a face, and you must make a friend of horror. Horror and moral terror are your friends. If they are not, then they are enemies to be feared. They are truly enemies.

    Hang on, that was something I saw on TV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    Getting into the Navy Seals would be you're first major obstacle! Read up about hell week! Never mind war, fcuk that!

    If Charlie Sheen can manage it then do would I, no bother.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭The One Who Knocks


    It would have been a memorable experience plus i'd have gotten paid extra for going. I wouldn't have been outside Bastion in anycase so not as risky as an infantry deployment.

    Ah right, I was presuming you were frontline infantry ;)


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,768 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Historically, a large portion of the British arm forces were Irish. So many of our fore-bearers had gone in the Victorian era. Given the harshness of that series of wars (three in total) with the loss of whole armies, then the present day combat in Afghanistan can be placed in perspective.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    Ah right, I was presuming you were frontline infantry ;)

    Even the infantry out there aren't so much in a frontline role compared to a few years ago. The ANA and afghan police have assumed the majority of control in operations out there now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Local-womanizer


    cena wrote: »
    I'm not say I tried out for seals. Just from the discovery channel thing they did

    Which only scratch the surface of Seal selection. Having talked with a former Seal, the thought of it is frightening, mentally that is. Never mind the physical aspect.
    Birroc wrote: »
    It's a land locked country so I can't imagine the Navy Seal training would be much use! :confused::)

    You should google the Navy Seals: The United States Navy's Sea, Air, Land Teams, they do ok on landlocked countries! :P


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    I think you're on the wrong site. Very few Irish people went to Afghanistan because we're not UK citizens.

    TLDR: No, we're Irish.

    The Irish army do have a contingent in Afghanistan. Ireland is a contributor to ISAF, as it should be, considering it voted in favour of sending a UN force to the country when it was on the UN security council.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,477 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Don't think I would want to join any war today, but if I was alive and old enough in 1939 I would have joined the British Army to fight in WWII. Funny thing is, if I was around in 1914 I probably would have joined up with the Irish Volunteers, and might have fought in 1916 and the War of Independence if I survived. That's the way I would have imagined myself back in those days anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    would John Rambo have gone again and what would he have done if faced with old friends on the opposite side?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 277 ✭✭BBJBIG


    Yeah ! Probably.
    Just to get some Weapons training (which I am looking for) to eventually deal with our own Elites and Scobes ...
    Cos that day might just come ... the way things are going.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Nope, I have no beef with Afghanistan, only with Talibans ruining it for everyone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    biko wrote: »
    Nope, I have no beef with Afghanistan, only with Talibans ruining it for everyone.
    have you ever had beef with Turkey?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    wtf


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    At 18, I'd have parachuted in, using an umberella, clutching a sharpened stick, and killed every mthafckin one of them(in my own mind)..having hit my fourties, I think bad of overtaking in case there isn't room to safely get by. Youth is great, you're young, dumb and highly strung, ready for war and bulletproof. Then you get sense. Slowly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭discus


    I joined the british army 2 years ago, hoping to go afghan. Missed the boat, it seems :/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    discus wrote: »
    I joined the british army 2 years ago, hoping to go afghan. Missed the boat, it seems :/

    Warlord.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭discus


    Going on tour elsewhere next year, should suffice.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    discus wrote: »
    I joined the british army 2 years ago, hoping to go afghan. Missed the boat, it seems :/
    why?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭discus


    why?

    Cause it looked like great craic on sky news.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    I suppose the likes of Saddam in Iraq and Osama in Pakistan ( after he fled across the border from Afghanistan ) got their comeuppance. So maybe its just as well someone went or things in those countries may be even worse - maybe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    discus wrote: »
    Going on tour elsewhere next year, should suffice.

    Mali? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    Mali? :)

    San-Francisco. He got assigned to the Army Heavy-Metal Corps. They rock.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    San-Francisco. He got assigned to the Army Heavy-Metal Corps. They rock.

    Lucky bastard!

    Better get those flowers for his hair so!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭discus


    Funny enough, my battery are off to california for 3 months this year! No, next year is 6 months sailing as part of Op Cougar, down through the suez canal and beyond


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    discus wrote: »
    Funny enough, my battery are off to california for 3 months this year! No, next year is 6 months sailing as part of Op Cougar, down through the suez canal and beyond

    I loled anyway. "Sir, I am going down as part of operation Cougar, BRB".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    discus wrote: »
    Funny enough, my battery are off to california for 3 months this year! No, next year is 6 months sailing as part of Op Cougar, down through the suez canal and beyond

    Sounds nice. I get to go to the Falklands for 3 months being blown away by the wind and looking at penguins.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭Duck's hoop


    Definitely regret not soldiering in some form.

    I'll always just wonder whether I had it or whether I'd crumble.

    I'm sure the 'buzz' of battle would be incredible. Not PC to say it. And I'm quite lefty in many ways, but it must be awesome (in the real sense of that word).

    Calling in air support to bomb the **** out of a village because someone took a pot shot? Not so much.


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