In Louth.in the impending LOCAL election I'm Voting for ?

10green bottles

FF,
FG,
LAB,
Sinn Fein,
UL,
Greens,
Oher Republican,
Other Socialist,
IND

10green bottles

The Votes here are anonymous,same as the ballot box.So vote up.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Voter apathy?

Plus there's no PR system here!

MugMugs

It really is none of the above tbh. As sad as that is

furiousox

Any of the 'Don't Give A Feck' party running in Louth?
If not I won't be voting.

http://www.joe.ie/news/current-affairs/meath-east-election-candidate-raises-eyebrows-with-dont-give-a-feck-party/

pancake_tuesday

Eirigi and SWP are not running candidates here

tayto lover

We really have some feckin selection to choose from

10green bottles

pancake_tuesday wrote: »

Eirigi and SWP are not running candidates here

At the time of posting it was still within the time limit for Eirigi & whoever to nominate & have candidates for the election.However we just took the listings from Wikipedia & another source.We hope that was ok ?

10green bottles

Fox Gray Rodent wrote: »

Voter apathy?

Plus there's no PR system here!

PR system on Boards.I havent the time nor the will!

10green bottles

So many views so little voting
Make sure you're registered for the real thing- Go tohttp://www.checktheregister.ie/PublicPages/Default.aspx?uiLang=

Check
Not?
Register.

BillyBoy13

Probably going to vote independents for a change. Until recently enough I used to think independents were wasting their time because they didn't have the connections/resources/finance etc that a party would have.

But I'm starting to think now that there's so much inter-party politics going on that sometimes our councellors/TD's end up having their hands tied.... which kinda defeats the purpose of having those extra resources/connections in the first place. No point in having the cake if you cant eat it.

We'll see what happens.

pancake_tuesday

Spot the local candidate.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

pancake_tuesday wrote: »

Spot the local candidate.

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Sorry, I lost the will to live after less than 2 minutes. What are we supposed to be looking at it for?

locum-motion

Fox Gray Rodent wrote: »

Sorry, I lost the will to live after less than 2 minutes. What are we supposed to be looking at it for?

The spoilt little squirt in that TV show is the son of local election candidate Paddy Malone (and has approximately the same level of intelligence).

MugMugs

I see the local cannabis crusader hit the headlines this week in his sit down protest on the set of prime time.

tayto lover

MugMugs wrote: »

I see the local cannabis crusader hit the headlines this week in his sit down protest on the set of prime time.

Who is he?

MugMugs

Mark Fitzsimons

locum-motion

locum-motion wrote: »

The spoilt little squirt in that TV show is the son of local election candidate Paddy Malone (and has approximately the same level of intelligence).

To complete the family's political CV:
Labour Senator Mary Moran (who narrowly missed out on a seat in Louth in the 2011 Gen Election) and Labour MEP Emer Costello (former Dublin City Councillor and Lord Mayor of Dublin, took over Prionsias DeRossa's EP seat when he retired, wife of Labour TD Joe Costello) are both younger sisters of Paddy's.

Nesta99

MugMugs wrote: »

Mark Fitzsimons

Locum-motion might be able to set straight whether he has a valid platform to run for election. Id imagine that the amount of cannabis(THC) needed to be smoked or ingested to keep optic pressures down in glaucoma sufferers sufficiently long enough to be of benefit, would cause significant other risks every bit as bad if not worse than the glaucoma? Is he just a bit of a wum or is there genuine therapeutic benefits. Or do we know?

Nesta99

locum-motion wrote: »

The spoilt little squirt in that TV show is the son of local election candidate Paddy Malone (and has approximately the same level of intelligence).

Oh good god I remember that! Total cringe and what was worse was the amount of kids in floods of tears when they didnt get an invite. Maybe it was just a embellishment at the time but story goes some girl was called to be given an invite and then told it was a joke that she wasnt invited, pure cruel! I wouldnt have put the pieces together and whatever tiny chance of a low preference, theres none now. There was playing it up for the cameras no doubt but ffs epitomised the shallow materialistic nature developed by many during celtic tiger years:mad:

MugMugs

Nesta99 wrote: »

Locum-motion might be able to set straight whether he has a valid platform to run for election. Id imagine that the amount of cannabis(THC) needed to be smoked or ingested to keep optic pressures down in glaucoma sufferers sufficiently long enough to be of benefit, would cause significant other risks every bit as bad if not worse than the glaucoma? Is he just a bit of a wum or is there genuine therapeutic benefits. Or do we know?

In fairness to the lad, he has a condition I wouldn't wish on anybody and it must've been one of the hardest decisions ever having your eyes removed but there are ways and means of doing these things and openly throwing some weed on the counter of the barracks and having a sit down protest in the national broadcasters, isn't it.

"Vote for Mark"

"And if he doesn't get his way, he sit down in the middle of a meeting in Brussels? No"

Nesta99

Dont get me worng Mugs, i'm hoping to find out if there is a legitimate basis to his campaign, i'm certainly not belittling his condition or indeed the chap himself if he truely believes there is a role for medically prescribed cannabis for his condition and indeed others. His methods dont sit right with me either though hence my wum comment, i didnt mean that he was simply mischief making just for the sake of it.

MugMugs

Nesta99 wrote: »

i didnt mean that he was simply mischief making just for the sake of it.

Never thought you did Nesta

locum-motion

MugMugs wrote: »

Mark Fitzsimons

Nesta99 wrote: »

Locum-motion might be able to set straight whether he has a valid platform to run for election. Id imagine that the amount of cannabis(THC) needed to be smoked or ingested to keep optic pressures down in glaucoma sufferers sufficiently long enough to be of benefit, would cause significant other risks every bit as bad if not worse than the glaucoma? Is he just a bit of a wum or is there genuine therapeutic benefits. Or do we know?

I've never heard of him.

MugMugs

locum-motion wrote: »

I've never heard of him.

Think he meant more from the medical perspective

Nesta99

I do - was thinking that a pharmacist would have a better idea if there was anything behind his conjecture that cannabis could or would be beneficial for people with glaucoma and that he would not have had to take the difficult decision to have his eyes removed if he hadnt been prevented from pursuing such a method of treatment. A preference could wing that way to show some sort of support if he was prevented from certain treatment due to rigid legislation rooted in principle. If there is little to support his claim then I wont waste the preference. My own opinion above is that the amount needed for any benefit to his condidtion would be detrimental to a greater extent in other ways. But I have limited knowledge hence wondering what a much more informed person thinks.

I really do consider candidates and value my vote to delve beyond the surface!

locum-motion

The American Glaucoma Society recommends that cannabis should not be used for glaucoma. Although it can reduce IOP (intra-ocular pressure), it only does so for about 3-4 hours, so you'd have to smoke a joint about six times a day. Every day. For the rest of your life. Good luck trying to be a productive member of society in that case!

It is tragic that a young man lost his eyes to glaucoma, but I find the assertion that access to cannabis to treat his glaucoma might have prevented this to be, shall we say, unconvincing. Anyway, one of the things I read about him this evening said he started smoking cannabis at age 11. Since smoking cannabis illegally didn't prevent him losing his eyes, I wonder how he thinks it might have been different if he was smoking it legally! (Well, I suppose he might have smoked more of it.)

Personally, I believe that a fairly high proportion of those that campaign for the legalisation of cannabis for this medical reason or that one are more interested in the legalisation itself than they are in the treatment of a disease.

Or, of course, I could just follow the example of my colleague Russell...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVSORyNwNeU

Nesta99

Thanks L-M, I ecactly the sort of info I was after, although i hadnt voted for Fitzsimmons. One thing that is bugging me is when RTE go to Dundalk for updates the background is the ropey old square. Details...i know im being picky but how inconvient would it be to send a couple of students down from the studio at DKIT to update the reel library?

Nesta99

Ok so now that the election is more or less done what are peoples post results opinions?

Its no surprise that the government parties took a hammering, usually the way mid-term elections. I think things will settle to the old status quo for the general election, time will tell. There were a fair few sitting candidates that were not re-elected, suffering from the local government reforms. It was a very good performance by SF to get 10 from 11 candidates elected, but I mentioned elsewhere, it is much easier to shout from opposition seats than it is to govern even locally with a majority, shall we see a more pragmatic approach from SF or will their policies still defy economics..?

tayto lover

Nesta99 wrote: »

Ok so now that the election is more or less done what are peoples post results opinions?

Its no surprise that the government parties took a hammering, usually the way mid-term elections. I think things will settle to the old status quo for the general election, time will tell. There were a fair few sitting candidates that were not re-elected, suffering from the local government reforms. It was a very good performance by SF to get 10 from 11 candidates elected, but I mentioned elsewhere, it is much easier to shout from opposition seats than it is to govern even locally with a majority, shall we see a more pragmatic approach from SF or will their policies still defy economics..?

I think SF will learn and enlist good economic skills for the party before the next General Election.
Also their local councillors are very good workers and always available.
Many think things will revert back to the old parties but I don't. I was an avid Labour voter but the party abandoned me for FG policies. They told too many lies and broke too many promises. I think the Labour people in Govt are more FG than Labour now.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

I'll be very interested to see SF and Independents trying to agree budgets - particularly in Dublin. Locally it will be just as interesting to see how they perform as the biggest grouping dealing with the new single council for Louth. Delivering instead of just complaining will be a huge change for them and will make or break them for the next general election.

10green bottles

This of course is a complete fluke of a result.SF have come out of nowhere without doing any hard or difficult work in local electoral wards/areas! No dynasties being built and continued like quite a few have been in this election.Bell,McGahon,ODowd etc''''''
FFS! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

tayto lover

Someone is after voting FG in the poll long after the results are in.:D
Way to go FG

Nesta99

Almost as good as Graham Geraghty thanking Fianna Fail for his nomination to stand in the last general election for Fine Gael!

10GB I dont see anyone here at least cliaming a fluke result! I am not so convinced though that it is the breakthrough that Sein Fein would hope it is. Labour, and the Lib Dems in the UK had their best ever results in the last GE but have both been wiped out this weekend, both saw it as a breakthrough but both sold their souls in government. As Srameen points out, delivering is the key now and is a damn sight tougher than shouting objections across a council chamber or parliment floor. I totally agree with Cllr Sharkeys stance on the Louth Hospital and the HSE, if he was to be elected to the Dail in 2yrs time as I would expect him to be and even in government; do we expect to see a complete and total reversal of the downgrading ot the Louth to a point of the return of paediatric services? or do we see an intelligent chap realising that he cant do so and balance the books?

Keelan is another of the dynastic elected in this election.

10green bottles

tayto lover wrote: »

Someone is after voting FG in the poll long after the results are in.:D
Way to go FG

I'm glad to see that someone else apart from me was following the poll

Couldn't quote this properly but Nesta99

10GB I dont see anyone here at least cliaming a fluke result! I am not so convinced though that it is the breakthrough that Sein Fein would hope it is. Labour, and the Lib Dems in the UK had their best ever results in the last GE but have both been wiped out this weekend, both saw it as a breakthrough but both sold their souls in government. As Srameen points out, delivering is the key now and is a damn sight tougher than shouting objections across a council chamber or parliment floor. I totally agree with Cllr Sharkeys stance on the Louth Hospital and the HSE, if he was to be elected to the Dail in 2yrs time as I would expect him to be and even in government; do we expect to see a complete and total reversal of the downgrading ot the Louth to a point of the return of paediatric services? or do we see an intelligent chap realising that he cant do so and balance the books?

Keelan is another of the dynastic elected in this election.

Yeah i left Keelan out,forgot about him and the Da.

This is a local election result and not a GE result(SF got 11/12 candidates elected in Louth and the 12th failed to get elected by just 2 votes.)

If SF can get these results and gains again in 2 years time(maybe a shorter period),who knows? Then we have a different dynamic.

BTW SF have provided approved audited estimates for budget spending over the last 6 or more years and have some of the most astute and intelligent young economic graduates in this country as supporters.

SF is The only political party with Euro and local reps in all four corners of the country.

10green bottles

On the hospital issue.FG/Labour have fecked it around so much that they have nearly made it impossible to bring it back on line as a proper hospital .It is a take-away sort of an effort these days and only a part time first aid station.

Nesta99

Hmmmm...there is a touch of a seige mentality to your posts I feel. I m not at all disregarding SF's recent success, if anything Im thinking along the lines of ' now is the chance to change the mindset of many use it' but that this is easier said than done. Some people within SF are seeing this election as the breakthrough, but I while agree that it is not a GE, i'm not sure the gains will stick unless there is obvious delivery from SF led councils. If there was a GE tomorrow well then I think SF would continue on the current upward trend.

I disagree with your ascertation that the position of the Louth is irreversable. Full 24hr surgical/radiologist cover and you are a long way back toward being an acute emergency trauma unit, which is the main requirement for a town the size of Dundalk, I wouldnt be so bothered about clinics etc returning.

If there are audited budget proposals and i dont doubt there are well then SF are not successfully highlighting this as this is their main weakness in public perception.

10green bottles

Siege mentality or Stockholm syndrome? Fair enough Nesta99.going to leave it at that,good talking to you.