How fix a flat: With Lance Armstrong

conkennedy

http://www.outsideonline.com/featured-videos/gear-videos/bikes/How-to-Fix-a-Flat--with-Lance-Armstrong.html

Seriously?! :eek:

Leroy42

Typical of LA. Couldn't do it himself had to get outside assistance from the floor pump.

Of course he'll argue that everyone is doing that!

Morrisseeee

Is this what he has been reduced to.............:eek:
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/nice one :pac:

conkennedy

I have to say, although I got a chuckle out of it, I can't but help think it's an attempt to humanize him again... post Oprah... post make up...post squeeling.... oh lets all just laugh off the big ole' cheat! and everything will be fine again

Bristolscale7

Thus begins the slow but carefully planned PR rehabilitation. It will certainly succeed if more doping scandals occur and Armstrong focuses on the life-style consumerism market in the U.S.

conkennedy

Yep

Lumen

He looks deeply traumatised.

el tel

Flip sake, I thought this was going to be about Lance doing some home decoration or basic apartment maintenance.

bazermc

Coming next

How to take EPO and get away with it: With Lance Armstrong

Bristolscale7

Note the vintage peugeot frame, note the wewthered coors cycling cap, and finally note the Park apron and tools. This is a straight shot at the Outdoors demographic. Perfect execution.

thetoffeeman

in as similar a method as injecting steroids into a vein, or bllod, inject air through the valve.

Sam Jam

He's drugged out of his mind again. It's jail is where he should be. Shocking to think he's been allowed getaway with his lies and criminality and now here he is trying to ingratiate himself again on the dumb masses. Disgusting.

ZiabR

Little sad to see him at this if I am honest. Yes he is one of the biggest serial cheaters ever to grace cycling but he was one of the only ones to get caught. Now, cycling on a whole has become a better sport since Lance came out so to speak and the whole issue around doping has been in the spotlight ever since, more than ever before.

This has to be seen as a good thing for the sport. If there is even a whiff of doping today, the cyclist is dropped by the team for good or at least until it is proven that they did/did not dope. That has to be seen as a success, and we owe that in no small part to Lance being caught.

This attitude of lambasting him constantly is getting a little tiring to be honest, yes he cheated, yes he was a major bully, but you can be sure that losing his titles has destroyed him.

And what annoys me is that fact that he is/has been used as a scape goat by other serial cheaters that were in the sport around Lances time. It is unfair and naive to think that he was the only one to be neck deep in doping.

omri

Wonder when we will see Alberto in similar video after all he too got caught.

Surely we wont see the younger Schleck in it as he's no longer doping given the recent performance hes showing...all theres left is his famous name..

ThisRegard

conkennedy wrote: »

I have to say, although I got a chuckle out of it, I can't but help think it's an attempt to humanize him again... post Oprah... post make up...post squeeling.... oh lets all just laugh off the big ole' cheat! and everything will be fine again

Bristolscale7 wrote: »

Thus begins the slow but carefully planned PR rehabilitation. It will certainly succeed if more doping scandals occur and Armstrong focuses on the life-style consumerism market in the U.S.

The odd thing is that Outside magazine published some of the most critical stories about Armstrong over the last few years, even before he 'fessed up so I'd be surprised if it's an attempt to rehabilitate him, at least not by them or allowing themselves to be uses for that anyway. Before that they were a cheer leader for the great American Hero.

edit, here you go, they themselves even created a handy timeline
http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/In-Our-Own-Words-A-History-of-Outsides-Lance-Armstrong-Coverage.html

Jabel

Who is this Lance Armstrong you speak about?

Wishbone Ash

The way he carelessly yanks the tube from the wheel shows that he's not familiar with patching & reusing them. I think most of us would remove it a lot more carefully.

logik wrote: »

....... but you can be sure that losing his titles has destroyed him

Probably not as destroyed as he would/will be if/when he repays his sponsors/prize money/newspapers sued etc.

Brian?

It's all very strange. That is all.

gordongekko

Jabel wrote: »

Who is this Lance Armstrong you speak about?

he was an up and coming cyclist who went on to not win the tdf 7 times then cried about it to Oprah.

tipptom

I think he does a good turn at comedy,could be a new career for him there and it would be easier physically on him as he looked exhausted when he sat down at the end of the clip.

Seaneh

Is it just me is LA a bit, er, cross eyed?

niceonetom

He looks like a drunk who has lost a bet.

Raam

logik wrote: »

he was one of the only ones to get caught.

A list of all riders caught, in chronological order.

Well, some are investigations.

Fr D Maugire

logik wrote: »

Little sad to see him at this if I am honest. Yes he is one of the biggest serial cheaters ever to grace cycling but he was one of the only ones to get caught. Now, cycling on a whole has become a better sport since Lance came out so to speak and the whole issue around doping has been in the spotlight ever since, more than ever before.

This has to be seen as a good thing for the sport. If there is even a whiff of doping today, the cyclist is dropped by the team for good or at least until it is proven that they did/did not dope. That has to be seen as a success, and we owe that in no small part to Lance being caught.

This attitude of lambasting him constantly is getting a little tiring to be honest, yes he cheated, yes he was a major bully, but you can be sure that losing his titles has destroyed him.

And what annoys me is that fact that he is/has been used as a scape goat by other serial cheaters that were in the sport around Lances time. It is unfair and naive to think that he was the only one to be neck deep in doping.

One of the only ones to get caught!!! are you smoking something?? Just a quick glance at podium finishers with Lance,

Alex Zulle-caught suspended.
Jan Ullrich-caught, blacklisted from the sport in 2006, age 32.
Raimondas Rumsas-caught, suspended.
Alexander Vinkourov-caught suspended.
Ivan Basso-caught suspended.

Indeed of the guys who finished on a podium with Lance, only Escartin, Beloki and Kloeden were never caught.

Some other riders who were Tour Top 10s in the Lance era:
Tyler Hamilton-caught suspended,
Floyd Landis-caught, suspended.
Micheal Rasmussen-caught, suspended.
Levi Leipheimer-admitted, suspended.
Christophe Moreau-caught, suspended.
Francisco Mancebo-linked, blacklisted,
Alejandro Valverde-caught suspended,
Alberto Contador, caught, suspended.
Iban Mayo-caught suspended.
Roberto Heras-caught suspended
Oscar Sevilla-linked, blacklisted
Richard Virenque-caught, suspended
Laurent Dufaux-caught, suspended

All of those guys bar Leipheimer were caught long before Lance got his ass deservedly busted. I cannot believe people still think Lance was the only one singled out. The fact was he was so protected meant he never faced the same risk's as others who were caught. If you want to know why Lance is sitting with a life-time ban, I suggest reading Cycle of Lies.

elnino23

Raam wrote: »

A list of all riders caught, in chronological order.

Well, some are investigations.

Some amazing Names on that list including a certain Irish hero!

Icyseanfitz

Well I for one found it flipping hilarious

Lumen

Fr D Maugire wrote: »

Indeed of the guys who finished on a podium with Lance, only Escartin, Beloki and Kloeden were never caught.

Well, depends what you mean by "caught".

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2009/may09/may13news3
"Andreas Klöden travelled to the Freiburg University Clinic for an illegal blood transfusion after the first stage of the Tour de France 2006, an independent commission has ruled."

http://www.dopeology.org/incidents/Giardini-Margherita-raid-%5bBologna%5d/
GIARDINI MARGHERITA RAID [BOLOGNA]
"Authorities raided the Giardini Margherita pharmacy in Bologna where prescriptions for banned substances were found, handwritten by sports doctors. Numerous riders were included in the judge's dossier, as "victims" of the medical professionals."
http://archiviostorico.corriere.it/2000/gennaio/05/Gotti_Cipollini_nella_lista_nera_co_0_0001053148.shtml
"The list also includes Rominger, Axel Merckx, Bertolini, Bortolami, Zberg, Zaina, Escartin, De Las Cuevas, Furlan, Livingston, Chiappucci, Faresin, Simeoni, Mazzoleni, Pontoons and Kappes, all cyclists"

Beloki was on the Puerto list and then "cleared".

Wishbone Ash

*PEDANTIC* It should be called "How to change a tube". There's no evidence that he's fixes a flat.

Brian?

Lumen wrote: »

Beloki was on the Puerto list and then "cleared".

My blood was only resting in that fridge your honour.

CramCycle

I enjoyed it, I look in better shape than Lance Armstrong, win.

Raam

CramCycle wrote: »

I enjoyed it, I look in better shape than Lance Armstrong, win.

I dunno, I reckon he'd bate the head off all of us.

Lusk_Doyle

Raam wrote: »

A list of all riders caught, in chronological order.

Well, some are investigations.

Re the Sky riders. The JTL investigation seems to be dragging and Henao got suspended by the team. After all their protestations about being field leaders in rider purity...

MPFG

Rui Costa the world champion with his positive test and 6 months suspension hardly ever gets labelled 'cheat'

Raam

MPFG wrote: »

Rui Costa the world champion with his positive test and 6 months suspension hardly ever gets labelled 'cheat'

Must be something to do with his lack of being a total megalomaniac cvnt who ruined people and dominated the sport's flagship event for seven straight years thus tarnishing it with an unremovable stain. Still though, yeah, a cheat.

Call Me Jimmy

Why does every marketer/pr person insist on patronising music? Why do they insist on treating me like a little baby. I couldn't watch more than 5 seconds.

Fr D Maugire

MPFG wrote: »

Rui Costa the world champion with his positive test and 6 months suspension hardly ever gets labelled 'cheat'

That is because he was able to show that the product he tested positive for was contained in a legal supplement he took.

As another example, if you can demonstrate that meat you have eaten contains clenbeturol, you don't get a suspension either. Many athletes tested positive in Mexico for this but meat is widely contaminated with the product so there were mass positives for it. Think it was a soccer team or something.

Raam

Fr D Maugire wrote: »

That is because he was able to show that the product he tested positive for was contained in a legal supplement he took.

As another example, if you can demonstrate that meat you have eaten contains clenbeturol, you don't get a suspension either. Many athletes tested positive in Mexico for this but meat is widely contaminated with the product so there were mass positives for it. Think it was a soccer team or something.

Lucky for him.

MPFG

Raam wrote: »

Must be something to do with his lack of being a total megalomaniac cvnt who ruined people and dominated the sport's flagship event for seven straight years thus tarnishing it with an unremovable stain. Still though, yeah, a cheat.

My point re Costa is in comparison to Contador ...who is labelled a cheat all the time on Twitter and here

As for his explanation Stefano Agostini, the 25-year-old Italian fired by Cannondale and suspended by the UCI over an out-of-competition test for banned substance clostebol in Aug. 2013 - has retired from cycling protesting his innocence as there was a minimal level from a rash cream prescribed by his doctor .....
Inconsistency is rife in anti doping and sanctions.....so I can see Armstrong's point however I believe he is toxic now in cycling and should try his hand at something else so one day we can maybe miss him

Raam

MPFG wrote: »

My point re Costa is in comparison to Contador ...who is labelled a cheat all the time on Twitter and here

As for his explanation Stefano Agostini, the 25-year-old Italian fired by Cannondale and suspended by the UCI over an out-of-competition test for banned substance clostebol in Aug. 2013 - has retired from cycling protesting his innocence as there was a minimal level from a rash cream prescribed by his doctor .....
Inconsistency is rife in anti doping and sanctions.....so I can see Armstrong's point however I believe he is toxic now in cycling and should try his hand at something else so one day we can maybe miss him

Armstrong should never be let near competitive sport ever again. He has proved beyond any shadow of a doubt that he cannot be trusted to compete clean.

I have so many doubts about Alberto. He is a proven cheat and is now performing at a level some what consistent with his pre-suspension level.

Agonstini... yeah maybe a bit of hard luck there. However, he is a professional athlete. Part of his job is to determine what he can take and what he cannot.

http://www.podiumcafe.com/2013/9/20/4752212/stefano-agostini-least-bull****ty-positive-explanation-ever

I never thought it could contain an active ingredient prohibited.

Occupation: professional athlete.
Shít that gets you fired: taking substances which contain an active ingredient prohibited.
Assessment: fail.

el tel

Raam wrote: »

I have so many doubts about Alberto. He is a proven cheat and is now performing at a level some what consistent with his pre-suspension level.

Did you see that agonisingly cheesy programme on Eurosport which gave an isight into Saxo Tinkoff? The f**ker even cheated at paintball!

Brian?

Raam wrote: »

Armstrong should never be let near competitive sport ever again. He has proved beyond any shadow of a doubt that he cannot be trusted to compete clean.

I have so many doubts about Alberto. He is a proven cheat and is now performing at a level some what consistent with his pre-suspension level.

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I don't think he's quite at that level yet. But I have to admit his TT performance the other day did make me wonder.

I hope he's clean.

CramCycle

MOD NOTE: Most if not all of us know the forum rules about accusing and insinuating riders are doping. Please tread carefully as I don't want to spend the day googling to find out that a statement is not verifiable and then only get to hand you a card rather than a well deserved

Morrisseeee

el tel wrote: »

Did you see that agonisingly cheesy programme on Eurosport which gave an isight into Saxo Tinkoff? The f**ker even cheated at paintball!

Yeah, saw that and it confirms for me the character he is, ie. someone you can't trust, the type of person that would do 'anything' to win.

He's a great cyclist, I admire his attacks & racing style. It has been interesting to see him at 'normal' levels for the past few years, but this year his performances are......up, and I reckon Froomey & the Skyborgs are worried.

glued

I feel sorry for Lance. Yes he's a cheat, but he's been punished. Can't keep kicking someone when they're down. Thankfully the Americans don't suffer from the same schadenfreude attitude that we, the Irish, have in abundance.

ford2600

glued wrote: »

I feel sorry for Lance. Yes he's a cheat, but he's been punished. Can't keep kicking someone when they're down. Thankfully the Americans don't suffer from the same schadenfreude attitude that we, the Irish, have in abundance.

Can't speak for anyone else, but his cheating isn't why he is so disliked.

Vindictive control freak is how I would categorize him.

Video is just plain weird though

Morrisseeee

glued wrote: »

I feel sorry for Lance. Yes he's a cheat, but he's been punished. Can't keep kicking someone when they're down. Thankfully the Americans don't suffer from the same schadenfreude attitude that we, the Irish, have in abundance.

Not sure how anyone could feel sorry for him, look at what he did, what he was involved in, who's lives he destroyed.

But..........he didn't do it alone, look at the allegations that are being directed towards the UCI, look at the controversies surrounding both former UCI presidents : Verbruggen & McQuaid.

Open your eyes.

Bristolscale7

Life time ban would clean up the sport and spare us the sicking image of someone like Vinokourov being awarded an Olympic gold medal.

touts

Lance says the most uncool thing you can do on a bike is leave the valve caps on. Caps back on so.

Leroy42

touts wrote: »

Lance says the most uncool thing you can do on a bike is leave the valve caps on. Caps back on so.

And here was I thinking that using your position as leader of a race to chase down a fellow professional to deny him any chance to win because he had the gall to tell the truth was the most uncool thing one could do.

But I see now dust caps being left on is far worse.

12 sprocket

Morrisseeee wrote: »

Yeah, saw that and it confirms for me the character he is, ie. someone you can't trust, the type of person that would do 'anything' to win.

He's a great cyclist, I admire his attacks & racing style. It has been interesting to see him at 'normal' levels for the past few years, but this year his performances are......up, and I reckon Froomey & the Skyborgs are worried.

Morrisseeee, Did you never see riders performance fluctuating from year to year before?.. For example current world road champions often perform below par because of all the demands to attend functions, PR events during the winter following their worlds win..
We have a good example at home whenever the Commonwealth Games year is present.. Some ulster riders often make a big jump in performance and results. Because of squad sessions extra training and motivation to be selected for the commonwealth games...
Nothing to do with doping just life impacting on human beings performances in a positive or negative way.

elnino23

Skyborgs? ha ha it was only a matter of time before the sky bashing began