Puppy

sopretty

I am shaking and hyperventilating.

I have written this post then hit something on the keyboard so it got deleted. Take #2

Basically,

I was walking down to the shop (500 metres). A tiny 5 week old staffordshire bull terrier whimpered to me whenever her owner pulled her away from me. I initially asked to pet the dog, then asked as to her breed and age etc. When I asked the owner whether she would walk on the lead with me, since she seemed to be desperately appealing to me and pulling against him, he said that no, you need to kick her and then she'd learn. I then said, 'you can't kick her - see if she'll walk with me', and then he turned on his heels with the little puppy looking back at me whimpering and whining. I'm not the bette r of it.
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I've edited out the last part of your post. You know why

MadYaker

So you asked a randomer on the street if you could walk their dog??

Stavros Murphy

What did you get in the shop?

stop animal cruelty

I suppose you don't recognise him? I dont think theres anything you can do, unless you just keep an eye out for the guy and maybe ask a few locals have they seen him with the dog....

poor thing

sopretty

MadYaker wrote: »

So you asked a randomer on the street if you could walk their dog??

NO - I told the dog walker how cute the puppy was and engaged in conversation. I petted the puppy and the puppy started whimpering and jumping up to my hand in a 'save me' way. The puppy had these big sad eyes while being petted by my and while being taken away from me, along with a desperate whining and whimpering which made my stomach ache.

Spring Onion

5 week old pups often whimper and whine. They have just been taken away from their mother (5 weeks is a bit too young though). Your story confuses me but if this "incident" leaves you shaking and hyperventilating, I would suggest a fish tank rather than a dog.

Stavros Murphy

sopretty wrote: »

NO - I told the dog walker how cute the puppy was and engaged in conversation. I petted the puppy and the puppy started whimpering and jumping up to my hand in a 'save me' way. The puppy had these big sad eyes while being petted by my and while being taken away from me, along with a desperate whining and whimpering which made my stomach ache.

Maybe it just had worms. You need to avoid India, no holidays there for you - take my word for it.

sopretty

Spring Onion wrote: »

5 week old pups often whimper and whine. They have just been taken away from their mother (5 weeks is a bit too young though). Your story confuses me but if this "incident" leaves you shaking and hyperventilating, I would suggest a fish tank rather than a dog.

Lol, your suggestion is bollox. I'm not an idiot. I grew up on a farm, with numerous dogs, sheep, cattle. I know when a dog is appealing desperately for help. The puppy wasn't whimpering to the walker. Just to me, when I got down on my hunkers, petted its head and let it lick my hand. The whines of it and the eyes appealing to me, were like it was begging me to save it.

The notion that the dog should be KICKED to learn how to walk on a lead is ridiculous and sickening.

Stavros Murphy

sopretty wrote: »

Lol, your suggestion is bollox. I'm not an idiot. I grew up on a farm, with numerous dogs, sheep, cattle. I know when a dog is appealing desperately for help. The puppy wasn't whimpering to the walker. Just to me, when I got down on my hunkers, petted its head and let it lick my hand. The whines of it and the eyes appealing to me, were like it was begging me to save it.

The notion that the dog should be KICKED to learn how to walk on a lead is ridiculous and sickening.

Well, lets hear your suggestion for how to do it so, Barbera Woodhouse.

Forest Demon

sopretty wrote: »

Lol, your suggestion is bollox. I'm not an idiot. I grew up on a farm, with numerous dogs, sheep, cattle. I know when a dog is appealing desperately for help. The puppy wasn't whimpering to the walker. Just to me, when I got down on my hunkers, petted its head and let it lick my hand. The whines of it and the eyes appealing to me, were like it was begging me to save it.

The notion that the dog should be KICKED to learn how to walk on a lead is ridiculous and sickening.

Dolittle?

sopretty

Stavros Murphy wrote: »

Well, lets hear your suggestion for how to do it so, Barbera Woodhouse.

I stop!, use the command 'to heel' and proceed.

Stavros Murphy

sopretty wrote: »

I stop!, use the command 'to heel' and proceed.

Walkies! kick..

Spring Onion

Forest Demon wrote: »

Dolittle?

Don't mind if I do....

sopretty

Can I just say that my father has trained sheep dogs in commands without ever putting a foot near them. In fact he has told me since I was knee high to a grass-hopper that a dog will never work for you/respect you if you ever mistreat them.

You don't ever kick a dog. I was taught that from a very young age.

Stavros Murphy

Stavros Murphy wrote: »

Walkies! kick..

Stop trolling the OP.

Spring Onion

sopretty wrote: »

You don't ever kick a dog. I was taught that from a very young age.

You never kick a sleeping dog but otherwise they are fair game especially if they look at you sideways or similar.

Amirani

sopretty wrote: »

You don't ever kick a dog. I was taught that from a very young age.

I was attacked by a dog before so I kicked it in the head. ****er had already got a good bite in though.

sopretty

Spring Onion wrote: »

You never kick a sleeping dog but otherwise they are fair game especially if they look at you sideways or similar.

Right............ And a little 2kg puppy? Is it ok to burst his guts with a kick? To teach him to walk on a lead?

sopretty

Diego Simeone wrote: »

I was attacked by a dog before so I kicked it in the head. ****er had already got a good bite in though.

Possibly a dog who had been mistreated.

whirlpool

OP you're being trolled in this post. The troll's comments are not remotely funny and even if they were, it's not in great taste considering a puppy is being kicked and appeared terrified, to you. But such is AH.

You're better off putting your concerns to the ISPCA or some such organisation.

kiffer

Welcome to after hours.
Here are your puppy and boots.

The man sounds mean, did he actually kick the puppytor did he just say it?

Tranceypoo

OP, maybe post this in API - I think you're just going to get people giving you smart answers and taking the mick in this one.

Forest Demon

sopretty wrote: »

Can I just say that my father has trained sheep dogs in commands without ever putting a foot near them. In fact he has told me since I was knee high to a grass-hopper that a dog will never work for you/respect you if you ever mistreat them.

You don't ever kick a dog. I was taught that from a very young age.

You are right of course and it I am sure it was very annoying. Its a cultural entitlement unfortunately.

sopretty

Look, at the end of today, I have that tiny puppies' whimpers and appealing eyes to haunt my dreams. Anyway. Yer man scarpered around a corner. I live across the road from what could be called a disadvantaged area. If I went in there to find the puppy, I would not find it. If I could have grabbed the poor little mite before himself decided to alter his 'walk' then I would have. I can't quite describe it. Can you imagine if a baby child is appealing to you in the only way they know how. That's how the puppy was. I felt the puppy was BEGGING me to rescue it, but I couldn't.

I thought you shouldn't be walking a puppy till they are at least 12 weeks old?

sopretty

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I thought you shouldn't be walking a puppy till they are at least 12 weeks old?

What you and I feel is acceptable, does not apply to some people.

Anyway, puppy is none of my business. Stop fretting about it. End of.

sillyoulfool

sopretty wrote: »

Anyway, puppy is none of my business. Stop fretting about it. End of.

Then why start a thread on it?

whirlpool

sillyoulfool wrote: »

Then why start a thread on it?

She's simply thinking out loud.

Why do people have to pick on and jump on trivial comments all the time?

Muise...

sopretty wrote: »

Look, at the end of today, I have that tiny puppies' whimpers and appealing eyes to haunt my dreams. Anyway. Yer man scarpered around a corner. I live across the road from what could be called a disadvantaged area. If I went in there to find the puppy, I would not find it. If I could have grabbed the poor little mite before himself decided to alter his 'walk' then I would have. I can't quite describe it. Can you imagine if a baby child is appealing to you in the only way they know how. That's how the puppy was. I felt the puppy was BEGGING me to rescue it, but I couldn't.

Human babies do that big appealing eyes thing when there's no actual danger too. It's a survival strategy. Did you actually see the man kick the dog? I hope the man was just taking the piss, because I don't condone kicking dogs. It's a lesser crime, but neither do I encourage overreactions - to the point of theft disguised as rescue - to cutesy baby animals just doing their appealing for cuddles thing.

Penny Tration

If you felt that the threat from the man towards his dog was real, surely you should have called the ispca? They get out to places pretty quickly when an animal is in danger, from what I've experienced when I've had to call them.

Frosty McSnowballs

If you were so concerned, then why didn't you follow the guy, find out where he went, then rang the dog police.

Muise...

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

If you were so concerned, then why didn't you follow the guy, find out where he went, then rang the dog police.

K999?


sorry

foggy_lad

sopretty wrote: »

I am shaking and hyperventilating.

I have written this post then hit something on the keyboard so it got deleted. Take #2

Basically,

I was walking down to the shop (500 metres). A tiny 5 week old staffordshire bull terrier whimpered to me whenever her owner pulled her away from me. I initially asked to pet the dog, then asked as to her breed and age etc. When I asked the owner whether she would walk on the lead with me, since she seemed to be desperately appealing to me and pulling against him, he said that no, you need to kick her and then she'd learn. I then said, 'you can't kick her - see if she'll walk with me', and then he turned on his heels with the little puppy looking back at me whimpering and whining. I'm not the bette r of it.
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How do you know the age of the puppy?

Did you see the man kicking the puppy?

What evidence do you have of any mistreatment of this puppy?

Sounds like the guy was taking the plss, I would not have been as polite if you had approached me and told me to hand over a pup and said "since she seemed to be desperately appealing to me and pulling against him".

GenieOz

Thanks for putting me in a bad mood for the night.

Pretzill

OP I'm hoping that the man's words about kicking the dog were just sarcasm. But a very young pup - perhaps too young to have been given his innoculations and shouldn't be out and about in the first place - but the noises of people, cars etc could just have him shaking and scared. Doesn't sound like the best of owners but if some person came up to me in the street and asked could they walk my puppy I'd be a little suspicious of their motives - (I know...but that's the world we live in.)

API might have been a better place for this. I would hate to think any animal is in distress but hopefully this was just a scared little dog with a reluctant walker - (may not even have been his owner)

orangesoda

I recommend the club orange

jane82

It was probably just a joke. Id say something like that without thinking.

sopretty

Muise... wrote: »

Human babies do that big appealing eyes thing when there's no actual danger too. It's a survival strategy. Did you actually see the man kick the dog? I hope the man was just taking the piss, because I don't condone kicking dogs. It's a lesser crime, but neither do I encourage overreactions - to the point of theft disguised as rescue - to cutesy baby animals just doing their appealing for cuddles thing.

No I did not see the man kick the dog. If I had, I would be in a cell right now I suspect.

sopretty

I can guarantee you, that the man meant what he said about kicking the dog.

Flippyfloppy

sopretty wrote: »

I can guarantee you, that the man meant what he said about kicking the dog.

You should really report this incident to your local animal welfare service, be it dspca or Ispca. For having a 5 week old pup out alone.

sopretty

Pretzill wrote: »

OP I'm hoping that the man's words about kicking the dog were just sarcasm. But a very young pup - perhaps too young to have been given his innoculations and shouldn't be out and about in the first place - but the noises of people, cars etc could just have him shaking and scared. Doesn't sound like the best of owners but if some person came up to me in the street and asked could they walk my puppy I'd be a little suspicious of their motives - (I know...but that's the world we live in.)

API might have been a better place for this. I would hate to think any animal is in distress but hopefully this was just a scared little dog with a reluctant walker - (may not even have been his owner)

The puppy was licking my hands, wiggling, and hopping to get into my arms. It was whining at me, looking into my eyes, jumping onto my hands. When I had to walk away, it was looking back at me, straining at the lead and whining, and I felt helpless.

sopretty

Flippyfloppy wrote: »

You should really report this incident to your local animal welfare service, be it dspca or Ispca. For having a 5 week old pup out alone.

I don't know who the piece of s8it is.

catallus

Unfortunately many "people" mistreat their pets. They kick them and starve them. I think they get pleasure from having control over another living thing, and it is their malice coming out. Better not to think about it. Or call the ISPCA if you know where he lives but they would be limited in what they can do unless they find the dog injured.

Frosty McSnowballs

sopretty wrote: »

I don't know who the piece of s8it is.

If you see him again, follow him.

sopretty

foggy_lad wrote: »

How do you know the age of the puppy?

Did you see the man kicking the puppy?

What evidence do you have of any mistreatment of this puppy?

Sounds like the guy was taking the plss, I would not have been as polite if you had approached me and told me to hand over a pup and said "since she seemed to be desperately appealing to me and pulling against him".

1. The owner told me the age and breed.
2. No, the owner did not kick the puppy. He told me that that was how he trained it on the lead.
3. I have no evidence.

Hence the shaking from the shock of knowing that I could do nothing about it.

Flippyfloppy

http://m.olx.com.au/item/show/85017789

These are advertised as 6 weeks old staffs crosses; did the dog actually look this juvenile?

jane82

You really shouldnt approach dogs so young. They havnt had their needles yet. Your older dog or the grass you touched beforehand could be carrying parvo. You really put this puppy in danger.
Hopefully op you will be more considerate of the safety of these puppies in the future whilst out accusing mild mannered jokers and soft tap with the shoers of animal neglect.

sopretty

jane82 wrote: »

You really shouldnt approach dogs so young. They havnt had their needles yet. Your older dog or the grass you touched beforehand could be carrying parvo. You really put this puppy in danger.
Hopefully op you will be more considerate of the safety of these puppies in the future whilst out accusing mild mannered jokers and soft tap with the shoers of animal neglect.

I don't own a dog and I wash my hands frequently. I don't carry 'parvo' or anything else.

Pretzill

sopretty wrote: »

The puppy was licking my hands, wiggling, and hopping to get into my arms. It was whining at me, looking into my eyes, jumping onto my hands. When I had to walk away, it was looking back at me, straining at the lead and whining, and I felt helpless.

What you're describing there is a nervous pup unsure of his surroundings.

When I took my little fella into a town for the first time he tried to approach anyone who walked by and everytime he heard a car he ran between my legs, tail under his - in the end I had to carry him around.

Mint Aero

are you a student nurse or something? biggest load of drama over nothing