is your silage ground closed off?

whelan2

i had to pull out from grazing it a few weeks ago, put out fertiliser yesterday on it, too wet to put slurry on it

I said

Yes slurry in mid march fert out 1st of this month

Greengrass1

Yep closed off.
Got 16 units of p already and a bag of can at start of march.
Going with 18-6-12 when more fert arrives and it will be topped up with can and some stage too

Grecco

Not yet, looks like it could be another week or two. Growth hasnt been great up to now so I dont think ive lost out by much yet

bbam

Just last week. Was lightly grazed up to that to clean it up.
Have 18-6-12 coming next week for it. Not any way near fit for slurry.

Has to be sprayed for docks at some stage too.

Milked out

Will have what I can graze done by Fri, will close then. I have 20 acres of heavy ground which yearlings grazed till Dec, will close that also as soon as I can travel it with tractor

Muckit

I have silage AND grazing ground closed off. Do l win?

Reggie.

Silage ground closed off. Has to get pig slurry at some stage tho

stanflt

Silage ground grazed till 16 dec
Got 6k slurry per acre in jan
I bag urea in feb
And 2.5 bags of master crop silage elite in early march 22 2.5 10 with 5 sulphar

Hope to cut 1st week may as already a cover of 2400 on it

Dunedin

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Yep closed off.
Got 16 units of p already and a bag of can at start of march.
Going with 18-6-12 when more fert arrives and it will be topped up with can and some stage too

so you will apply 4 different stages of fert - is that all before the first cut?

Nekarsulm

Got 4000 gallons of slurry/acre yesterday, 50/50 mixture of cattle and pig. Ground too wet to go with a Fert. spreader yet. As soon as dry enough to carry me, will go with a bag and 3/4 of urea.

whelan2

Dunedin wrote: »

so you will apply 4 different stages of fert - is that all before the first cut?

seems very costly

mahoney_j

Yep all closed off now,had 10 acres with 55 units urea out that I had as a buffer in case growth nosedived ,don't need to graze again now so topped up with 3 bags 18 6 12 on Tuesday..hope to cut 20 may.geass hopping outbid ground here

Milked out

Bit late now for me but can you get urea with sulphur? Would be handler for first cut to get sulphur in

whelan2

stanflt wrote: »

Silage ground grazed till 16 dec
Got 6k slurry per acre in jan
I bag urea in feb
And 2.5 bags of master crop silage elite in early march 22 2.5 10 with 5 sulphar

Hope to cut 1st week may as already a cover of 2400 on it

it was the master crop silage elite that we spread yesterday

freedominacup

Around 10 percent closed. Everything getting covered with urea today. Closed ground getting a bag of super net 14 S plus 2x 10-10-20 on top of 1 bag urea. Everything will get super net next week as well. As surpluses appear will close more.

jt65

won't be closing for a while yet, too heavily stocked

not too worried 'cos IMO silage will never replace grass , for feed value

have a good bit left in any case , so most likely only take 1 cut and a few bales

Greengrass1

Dunedin wrote: »

so you will apply 4 different stages of fert - is that all before the first cut?

Very very low in p and want to get it up.
Will cist for a year or two but I will have 2 good crops if silage I hope

F.D

Got 3000 gal to the acre of cattle slurry in feb
spread 2 x Bags of 18-6-12 to the acre and 2 x bags of CAN to the acre on Monday

moy83

Muckit wrote: »

I have silage AND grazing ground closed off. Do l win?

Can you spread fert on those turlochs in the summer or do you just eat what comes ? Do they flood every year

Timmaay

When is it too late to put out slurry? I'm hoping to go out on sat with the rest of the slurry, I've one silage paddock just grazed out, and the other has a cover of about 800 on it, both of them will get the slurry. Another 10acres of silage ground has a cover of about 1400 on it now, should I be aiming to cut this earlier, for some quality silage for the milkers, and cut the rest later?

reilig

Reseeded silage ground got 18-6-12 yesterday and will be getting gran lime today. Hoping to take 150 bales off it in 2 cuts for feeding to weanlings. The rest of the silage ground has been grazed by the sheep all winter and I'm hoping to get slurry on it in the next 2 weeks to allow for mid june cutting. Quality doesn't need to be near as good as it's only for the suckler cows.

Reggie.

reilig wrote: »

Reseeded silage ground got 18-6-12 yesterday and will be getting gran lime today. Hoping to take 150 bales off it in 2 cuts for feeding to weanlings. The rest of the silage ground has been grazed by the sheep all winter and I'm hoping to get slurry on it in the next 2 weeks to allow for mid june cutting. Quality doesn't need to be near as good as it's only for the suckler cows.

What price is gran lime now and what size bags do they come in

bogman_bass

will close off today or tomorrow. already got a bag to the acre of 18-6-12

f140

I have about 4k gallons ofslurry out and two bags of urea. that's it then.


so Whelan have you yours?

keep going

Maybe it is maybe it isnt, silage has tobe flexible around here

Farrell

freedominacup wrote: »

Around 10 percent closed. Everything getting covered with urea today. Closed ground getting a bag of super net 14 S plus 2x 10-10-20 on top of 1 bag urea. Everything will get super net next week as well. As surpluses appear will close more.

Super Net 14S, is that Nitrogen with Sulphur?

Closing Ground Saturday, just grazing it off at the moment.
Will put out 2 Bags of 10.10.20 followed by Nitrogen in mid May

visatorro

suppose you can spread slurry anytime if it gets abit of rain and growth its alright i would have thought. watery enough stuff helps.

how do you calculate nitrogen usage? as in how long does it take the ground to use it up? should it be zero at cutting?

td5man

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Very very low in p and want to get it up.
Will cist for a year or two but I will have 2 good crops if silage I hope

my silage ground was low in p made a huge difference spreading straight p on it.

finished grazing silage ground tomorrow.

freedominacup

Farrell wrote: »

Super Net 14S, is that Nitrogen with Sulphur?

Closing Ground Saturday, just grazing it off at the moment.
Will put out 2 Bags of 10.10.20 followed by Nitrogen in mid May

Yes

Timmaay

stanflt wrote: »

Silage ground grazed till 16 dec
Got 6k slurry per acre in jan
I bag urea in feb
And 2.5 bags of master crop silage elite in early march 22 2.5 10 with 5 sulphar

Hope to cut 1st week may as already a cover of 2400 on it

What would you expect the quality of it to be like, ie stuff held over winter, instead of grazed once before being cut? I assume you'll go straight in for a 2nd cut in mid June now?

whelan2

f140 wrote: »

I have about 4k gallons ofslurry out and two bags of urea. that's it then.


so Whelan have you yours?

yup 90 acres hopefully- things will be tight but feck it

Farrell

f140 wrote: »

I have about 4k gallons ofslurry out and two bags of urea. that's it then.

How long will you leave it before cutting?

Greengrass1

td5man wrote: »

my silage ground was low in p made a huge difference spreading straight p on it.

finished grazing silage ground tomorrow.

Fert hasn't even disintegrated yet.
They were very hard pellets no dust off it like you would normally get spreading 10-10-20 or 18-6-12

reilig

Reggie. wrote: »

What price is gran lime now and what size bags do they come in

€180 per ton for growmax is what we paid. You can get ordinary granlime for €160. It comes in bulk bags, 375kg per bag and 4 bags per 1.5 ton pallet.

Reggie.

reilig wrote: »

€180 per ton for growmax is what we paid. You can get ordinary granlime for €160. It comes in bulk bags, 375kg per bag and 4 bags per 1.5 ton pallet.

Cheers for that. Never used it before. I'll take it that it doesn't come in the 50kg bags so

reilig

Reggie. wrote: »

Cheers for that. Never used it before. I'll take it that it doesn't come in the 50kg bags so

Growmax doesn't, but the ordinary granlime does!

Reggie.

reilig wrote: »

Growmax doesn't, but the ordinary granlime does!

There is just a little bit extra in the growmax ill take it where the other is just pure lime

reilig

Reggie. wrote: »

There is just a little bit extra in the growmax ill take it where the other is just pure lime

Yea, a higher calcium content in the growmax!.

We are actually spreading only 2/3 the amount of fertilizer this year and spending the other 1/3 on growmax. It's the advice that we got at the BTAP meetings. Don't know if it will ring through or not, but the idea is that the granlime will help us to utilise more of the nitrogen that is in the fertilizer and slurry as well as utilising more of the nitrogen already in the ground. Advisor recons that we will see a better and more sustained grass growth. He could be wrong and we might see ourselves having to buy more fertilizer at the back end. But it's worth the risk.

Plan on spreading ground limestone at the back end too but heavy land can't take too much lime and it's hard to get a contractor to spread less than 2 tons per acre when 1 ton per acre on a regular basis would be more suited to the type of land that we have.

Reggie.

reilig wrote: »

Yea, a higher calcium content in the growmax!.

We are actually spreading only 2/3 the amount of fertilizer this year and spending the other 1/3 on growmax. It's the advice that we got at the BTAP meetings. Don't know if it will ring through or not, but the idea is that the granlime will help us to utilise more of the nitrogen that is in the fertilizer and slurry as well as utilising more of the nitrogen already in the ground. Advisor recons that we will see a better and more sustained grass growth. He could be wrong and we might see ourselves having to buy more fertilizer at the back end. But it's worth the risk.

Plan on spreading ground limestone at the back end too but heavy land can't take too much lime and it's hard to get a contractor to spread less than 2 tons per acre when 1 ton per acre on a regular basis would be more suited to the type of land that we have.

Yeah we have heavy soils here with limestone underneath

td5man

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Fert hasn't even disintegrated yet.
They were very hard pellets no dust off it like you would normally get spreading 10-10-20 or 18-6-12

Cant remember how long it takes to disappear, it was 2years ago

nhg

All silage ground grazed since last weekend, OH spent yesterday and today spreading slurry on it, nice mist here now so hopefully it will wash in nicely. Will go with Cut Sward +S next week. Hope to cut for pit mid June and will take bales if paddocks get too strong later on. All ground got lime late September.

bikes

Have 35 acres closed off and spread pig slurry on it 2 weeks ago,going to close off another 25 acres next week just to space out the first cuts and hope for good weather . Hopefully make a bit of hay/silage and sell it aswell

Sami23

Silage ground got 3,500 gallons / ac cattle slurry end of February. Was goin to go with 2.5 bags/ac Cut Sward tomorrow.
Would that be enough fert ? (round bales)

49801

Closed but not sure it'll work out :eek:
Did a measure today

Daily Growth 34.8
Farm Cover 442
Total Area 27.93
kgLW/Ha 1433
Demand / Day 800
Demand / Ha 28.6
N Kg / Ha 23.5
N % Area 95
Weather
Graze Days Ahead 10.2
Short Term Silage 0 (0Ha) Reset
Long Term Silage 3 (12.18Ha) Reset
Area Unmeasured 0 Ha
Silage Reduction 10.9 Days

towzer2010

Sami23 wrote: »

Silage ground got 3,500 gallons / ac cattle slurry end of February. Was goin to go with 2.5 bags/ac Cut Sward tomorrow.
Would that be enough fert ? (round bales)

Well I'll try to do the figures so feel free to correct me if I've done it wrong.

First cut needs 100 - 12 - 100 (N-P-K) according to Teagasc and slurry is meant to be 6 - 5 - 30 per 1000 gallons so you put out around 21 - 17.5 - 105 so far. Cut sward is 24 - 2.5 - 10 so @ 2.5 bags you'd be putting out something like 60 - 6.25 - 25. Including the slurry it's 81 - 23.75 - 130.

awaywithyou

Silage ground grazed upto 1 st nov last yr.... Slurry the week before paddys day.... Fertiliser (cut Sward) spread the days after paddy's day.... Job done!

reps4

towzer2010 wrote: »

Well I'll try to do the figures so feel free to correct me if I've done it wrong.

First cut needs 100 - 12 - 100 (N-P-K) according to Teagasc and slurry is meant to be 6 - 5 - 30 per 1000 gallons so you put out around 21 - 17.5 - 105 so far. Cut sward is 24 - 2.5 - 10 so @ 2.5 bags you'd be putting out something like 60 - 6.25 - 25. Including the slurry it's 81 - 23.75 - 130.

is 100 units K not alot?

farmerjj

reps4 wrote: »

is 100 units K not alot?

Teagasc recommend 150units for 2cuts so 100units for 1st would be about right. Sounds a little high suppose it depends on your ground.

towzer2010

reps4 wrote: »

is 100 units K not alot?

Well it is a lot but according to Teagsc it's needed because the crop removes that from the field. It's from a leaflet I got at a BTAP meeting and this is what it says

"Teagasc advice for first cut silage is to apply 100 units of N, 16 units of P and 100 units of K.
Apply additional P and K in fields with low soil fertility (Index 1 and 2).

Advice for second cut silage is 80 units of N, 8 units of P and 28 units of K."

Miname

I think there may be a slight mix up with units and kgs.