dead animal s found in clare

6480

Hopefully all concerned in relation to the matter are found and prosecuted .

GrandSoftDay

6480 wrote: »

Hopefully all concerned in relation to the matter are found and prosecuted .

Tis rough what was done! Would love to know how they got them out over the cliff.

Sam Kade

They removed the tags so what happens when his herd test is due and no animals for those tags?

Doom

Seen a photo I the paper. ...evil beyond a doubt

Greengrass1

Doom wrote: »

Seen a photo I the paper. ...evil beyond a doubt

Got a link. Haven't heard about this

C0N0R

Anyone got a link to the story??

onyerbikepat

:mad:
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/animal-carcasses-dumped-off-scenic-cliffs-in-co-clare-1.1748893

C0N0R

That sick, I just hope to fcuk the animals were dead before ears were cut off and thrown over the cliff.

GrandSoftDay

C0N0R wrote: »

That sick, I just hope to fcuk the animals were dead before ears were cut off and thrown over the cliff.

I have my doubts on that to be honest.

tanko

Terrible act. Was it the Bull McCabe that did it?

mf240

Its very strange, was it a mix of cattle and horses.

Any chance it was an illegal dead animal collector just dumping instead of the proper procedures.

A fair dirty thing to do.

Greengrass1

Most disgusting thing I've ever heard off.
That to me is the same as a serial killer with a heap of people buried in one spot.

Make ye sick

mf240

GrandSoftDay wrote: »

I have my doubts on that to be honest.

Really? You reckon they were forced over the edge live?

God I hope not.

whelan2

if they are there months would that have been during the storms, also how could they trace the owners.

Stheno

whelan2 wrote: »

if they are there months would that have been during the storms, also how could they trace the owners.

The article said they probably weren't there during the storms, less than 2 months they reckoned.

Poor animals, horrific photo

GrandSoftDay

mf240 wrote: »

Really? You reckon they were forced over the edge live?

God I hope not.

Road going to the edge off the cliff as far as I know, be easy enough let down the ramp at the edge and let em off. Can't really see the motive either way though. Not too easy roll a dead horse over a cliff I'd imagine..

Caveat_

Another horse lay within 200 yards of the edge atop the cliffs and had to be put down by a veterinary surgeon who visited the scene this week.

That would suggest at least one of the animals was pushed over alive. Vile.

whelan2

Stheno wrote: »

The article said they probably weren't there during the storms, less than 2 months they reckoned.

Poor animals, horrific photo

oh ok, was on news earlier too. Hope they catch those involved

mf240

GrandSoftDay wrote: »

Road going to the edge off the cliff as far as I know, be easy enough let down the ramp at the edge and let em off. Can't really see the motive either way though. Not too easy roll a dead horse over a cliff I'd imagine..

Fcuking scum, hope there caught.

What possible motive??

Stheno

mf240 wrote: »

Fcuking scum, hope there caught.

What possible motive??

Disease, lack of value in the market were two of the ones mentioned on the Matt Cooper show yesterday

GrandSoftDay

mf240 wrote: »

Fcuking scum, hope there caught.

What possible motive??

Fecked if I know why anyone would do it. looking at google maps the access road is a cul de sac and there are a nice few house to pass along the way. It's a wonder nobody spotted something funny going on.

moy83

There should be no court or legal proceedings for whoever did that . They should be driven over the edge of the same cliff and left to rot aswell .
Anyone that can do that to animals has no place on this earth

Genghis Cant

Jaysus, it's rough. They can cut off what they like but there's no hiding from DNA analysis. There's a huge library of data available now to compare a sample too. I'd be very nervous if it was me that carried out that sad act.

Base price

mf240 wrote: »

Its very strange, was it a mix of cattle and horses.

Any chance it was an illegal dead animal collector just dumping instead of the proper procedures.

A fair dirty thing to do.

I only heard this on the news this evening when I was driving home. I thought the same thing when I heard the news story.
Dirty rotten feckers who did that and bad luck to them :mad:

Sunshine87

sickening thing to hear happen :-(

stop animal cruelty

l swear to god l'd make those c*nts regret what they did....just disgusting, why would someone do such a cruel horrible thing?? Does anyone know if its likely they were put over the cliff alive? please god l hope not...

fr3d12

mf240 wrote: »

Fcuking scum, hope there caught.

What possible motive??

The motive was money pure and simple.
The owner didn't want to feed or care for the animals with the possible exception being the cattle who may have been ill or injured.
Disgusting and serious acts of animal cruelty and neglect are extemely common in Ireland but the charges and penalties do not reflect the severity of the crime.

stop animal cruelty

someone has to know something, hopfully someone will cop that some animals are missing from this vile "man/woman".

fr3d12

stop animal cruelty wrote: »

someone has to know something, hopfully someone will cop that some animals are missing from this vile "man/woman".

They should be able to trace the owner of the cattle easily enough I would imagine, the ears were gone so they had obviously been registered.
The location also suggests that the culprit expected the carcasses to be washed out to sea and not be discovered.

stop animal cruelty

fr3d12 wrote: »

They should be able to trace the owner of the cattle easily enough I would imagine, the ears were gone so they had obviously been registered.
The location also suggests that the culprit expected the carcasses to be washed out to sea and not be discovered.

l hope so...can only imagine what way they were treated before this

bikes

Sam Kade wrote: »

They removed the tags so what happens when his herd test is due and no animals for those tags?

The type that does that will rob cattle and put their tags in their ears .

fr3d12

stop animal cruelty wrote: »

l hope so...can only imagine what way they were treated before this

It is sickening but unfortunately not an isolated incident.

Genghis Cant

fr3d12 wrote: »

Disgusting and serious acts of animal cruelty and neglect are extemely common in Ireland

Are they? I'm out and about and it's rare I would witness serious acts of cruelty.

Am I missing something?

fr3d12

Genghis Cant wrote: »

Are they? I'm out and about and it's rare I would witness serious acts of cruelty.

Am I missing something?

I've never witnessed a murder but I know it happens frequently!
This is from yesterday.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/little-thor-suffers-in-one-of-the-most-appalling-cases-of-animal-cruelty-264044.html

stop animal cruelty

Genghis Cant wrote: »

Are they? I'm out and about and it's rare I would witness serious acts of cruelty.

Am I missing something?

just because you haven't witnessed it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen...nearly everyday theres a case of animal cruelty on the news/in news papers...horses being the most common victims...

JohnDx

If they belonged to some local farmer that was'nt able to care for them no more or something due to financial reasons, surely he could of called the animal shelter to take them off his hands.
Very cruel.

Genghis Cant

fr3d12 wrote: »

I've never witnessed a murder but I know it happens frequently!
This is from yesterday.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/little-thor-suffers-in-one-of-the-most-appalling-cases-of-animal-cruelty-264044.html

I would maintain these incidents are not "extremely common", I'm not naive enough to expect they never happen but let's not lose the run of ourselves.
I'm at the coalface of animal husbandry, I am employed in a related field and heavily involved in a rescue group. I know exactly what way the wind blows.

keep going

Its highly unlikely that they were dumped over the cliff alive and more likely that they were dead, used to be quite common along the coast

Stheno

keep going wrote: »

Its highly unlikely that they were dumped over the cliff alive and more likely that they were dead, used to be quite common along the coast

I had a horrible experience back in 1999 on holiday in the west coast, went out to a very secluded beach and there were two dead sheep floating in it

stop animal cruelty

JohnDx wrote: »

If they belonged to some local farmer that was'nt able to care for them no more or something due to financial reasons, surely he could of called the animal shelter to take them off his hands.
Very cruel.

yes that would have been the right and most decent thing to do, but in rural lreland things dont go that way, some people dont want the help or have too much pride to ask for some....

stop animal cruelty

Stheno wrote: »

I had a horrible experience back in 1999 on holiday in the west coast, went out to a very secluded beach and there were two dead sheep floating in it

about 20 years ago near where l live a horse was found in the river...apprentley dumped:(

fr3d12

Genghis Cant wrote: »

I would maintain these incidents are not "extremely common", I'm not naive enough to expect they never happen but let's not lose the run of ourselves.
I'm at the coalface of animal husbandry, I am employed in a related field and heavily involved in a rescue group. I know exactly what way the wind blows.

Again just because you don't witness it doesn't mean it is rare.
Little dogs like the one in the link have always been used as bait for fighting dogs or you think it doesn't happen.
Badger baiting still happens and so does the blooding of greyhounds.

Genghis Cant

fr3d12 wrote: »

Again just because you don't witness it doesn't mean it is rare.
Little dogs like the one in the link have always been used as bait for fighting dogs or you think it doesn't happen.
Badger baiting still happens and so does the blooding of greyhounds.

I never suggested it doesn't happen but feel free to misrepresent me if you think it serves to help your argument. I'm fully aware it happens. But I still maintain its not "extremely common" like you stated.

stop animal cruelty

Genghis Cant wrote: »

I never suggested it doesn't happen but feel free to misrepresent me if you think it serves to help your argument. I'm fully aware it happens. But I still maintain its not "extremely common" like you stated.

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l think fr3d12 meant that abuse & neglect were extremely common, not disposting animals over a cliff

fr3d12

Genghis Cant wrote: »

I never suggested it doesn't happen but feel free to misrepresent me if you think it serves to help your argument. I'm fully aware it happens. But I still maintain its not "extremely common" like you stated.

I'm not arguing with you nor am I misrepresenting you.

washman3

An incident like this happened in county Limerick within the last couple of years. A heap of dead dogs/greyhounds were found in a quarry. Public outrage ensued. After exhaustive investigative work had been done the dogs were traced to a relatively local guy. Of coarse by this time the 'public outrage' had diminished and as the media had already got its euphoric fix of dramatics.
The perpetrator appeared in court but bar a 'slap on the wrists' from the judge, sweet FA was done to him. Incidentally, just some days before the same judge had jailed a person for not having a TV licence.

In short, we are a nation of hypocrites.!
Next week this will be virtually forgotten about as there is no revenue to be gained from it or it doesn't affect house prices or some other silly s###e like that.

For what my opinion is worth, the person/persons that treated these horses like this are total and utter scum.

jack o shea

the **** should get 10 years in mountjoy, sickening.

Base price

stop animal cruelty wrote: »

yes that would have been the right and most decent thing to do, but in rural lreland things dont go that way, some people dont want the help or have too much pride to ask for some....

stop animal cruelty wrote: »

about 20 years ago near where l live a horse was found in the river...apprentley dumped:(

fr3d12 wrote: »

Again just because you don't witness it doesn't mean it is rare.
Little dogs like the one in the link have always been used as bait for fighting dogs or you think it doesn't happen.
Badger baiting still happens and so does the blooding of greyhounds.

Unfortunately it appears to me that Bernie and Co have hijacked this thread with off topic/aside posts regarding badger baiting, greyhounds etc.
As a member of the farming community I think that I speak for all livestock farmers regarding any forms of cruelty towards animals.
I will hold judgement on this particular incident until the regulatory bodies come to a conclusion. I seem to remember an "incident" a few months ago where a yearling horse was apparently burned alive somewhere in Dublin.
It made headlines in the papers at the time.
Apparently after investigation the yearling was dead before the event, so not such a big story. However I will acknowledge that one needs proper facilities to keep stock.
Also I take personal umbrage with Bernie&Co and such groups that have exhibited such an angst against "rural" Ireland.
Don't get me started.

fr3d12

Base price wrote: »

Unfortunately it appears to me that Bernie and Co have hijacked this thread with off topic/aside posts regarding badger baiting, greyhounds etc.
As a member of the farming community I think that I speak for all livestock farmers regarding any forms of cruelty towards animals.
I will hold judgement on this particular incident until the regulatory bodies come to a conclusion. I seem to remember an "incident" a few months ago where a yearling horse was apparently burned alive somewhere in Dublin.
It made headlines in the papers at the time.
Apparently after investigation the yearling was dead before the event, so not such a big story. However I will acknowledge that one needs proper facilities to keep stock.
Also I take personal umbrage with Bernie&Co and such groups that have exhibited such an angst against "rural" Ireland.
Don't get me started.

I have no idea who Bernie&Co is so your sarcism is lost on me.
I live in rural Ireland and have no such angst nor did I suggest animal neglect and cruelty is a practise exclusive to the countryside.
Even if it's confirmed the animals were not alive on arrival at the cliff it means little, there are no mitigating factors.

downonthefarm

Genghis Cant wrote: »

Are they? I'm out and about and it's rare I would witness serious acts of cruelty.

Am I missing something?

Country folk are particularly notorious for it

Base price

Called up the auld posse to aid your argument against us farmers.
Same old - same old - big wheel that keeps on turning.
I seem to remember Bernie that "your crew" were having an "AFTER" hunt drink and sandwiches in a local pub and enjoying same, which was sponsored by one of the North County Dublin Hunts.
Your buddies have gone home well fed over the years by the same Hunts that your friends have campaigned against.........
Double standards or what????