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What's your worst experience of buying/selling a car?

  • 03-04-2014 4:29pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭


    So,

    I just got off the phone with what has gone straight into the number one spot of spanner of the month.
    I'm on the look out for a car, saw a nice 530d on the net and decided to give the seller a call before making a potentially wasted trip out to him.
    So the conversation goes like this:

    Me: "Hello I see you have a 530d for sale, is it still available?"
    Wife of seller: "Ah yes, I'll get him now".
    Queue 2mins of waiting in pure silence.
    Then comes the husband.
    Husband: "Hello, what?" in that thick cultie accent.
    I repeat the question.
    Husband: "yeah yeah it's still for sale, why?"
    Me: "I'm interested in taking a look at it but want to get some details beforehand".
    Husband: "sure can't you just come and ask me in person?"
    Me: "It's a bit for to drive at this point in the day, but could be this weekend"
    You can hear him getting frustrated.
    Husband: "go on so"
    Me: "How many miles has it got?"
    Husband: "Not many"
    Me: "OK, but how many exactly?"
    Husband: "Ah I don't know, I think 150k"
    Me: "OK, is it taxed?" I know it's NCT'd but no mention of tax
    Husband: "No, expired"
    Me: "Service history?"
    Husband: "sure why do you want to know that?"
    Me: "As it will give me a clue as to if the car may have been well maintained or proof for any jobs which are done".
    Husband: "It needs nothing"
    Me: "How many owners does it have or are you the original?"
    Husband now pi33ed off.
    Husband: "Ara here, you're wasting me time, are ya coming to see the fecking thing or not? cause if you aren't then good luck"
    Me: I just want to get some basic info on the car"
    Husband hangs up.

    I know it's a bit long to read but a bit funny when I was typing it out :)
    So has anyone ever had a bad experience with a seller/buyer?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    A toss up between travelling to Limerick and Galway to see a car where the seller didn't bother his hole to see me. I think Galway was worse though, didn't even get to see the car


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭cabledude


    He obviously does not want to part with his 530d. Maybe the Mrs. is making him sell it and he is trying to fupp up the sale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    cabledude wrote: »
    He obviously does not want to part with his 530d. Maybe the Mrs. is making him sell it and he is trying to fupp up the sale.

    He's doing a mighty job of that so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,395 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    I think the fact that somebody actually phones you and talks to you rather then text,shows they are interested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭JustLen


    I was travelling to Nenagh from Ennis last week to look a car. Told the seller i would ring her when i was half way to get more specific directions.
    Pull into a garage in Limerick and ring her

    "Oh theres just someone here looking at the car can you ring back in 10 mins"

    Couldn't believe it. Rang back 20 mins later and no answer. Rang again and the phone was off!

    The ad wasn't taken down till a few days later so I was as confused as I was annoyed.

    I'm only guessing the car was dodgy. It was advertised as low mileage 2 owners. (reg blocked in the pictures)
    She was meant to text me the reg just after I left and when I was on the phone I had to ask her twice about service history before she would answer.

    Leason learned anyway. As it happened I went straight onto donedeal while still parked at the garage, rang another seller in Tipperary. Went straight down, viewed the car and left a deposit.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭obezyana


    Worst I had was when I was looking to buy a mondeo the guy who was selling said he couldn't meet until after work so we agreed a time everything seemed all sound he seemed very genuwine so I told him I'd travel up and meet him at 530 at Huestin station. I travelled up from Kilkenny on the train and low and behold he was a no show and his phone magically turned off.

    Later that night I had some family and friends call and text him all night and the next day pretending to be interested in buying his car. The is some tools out there selling cars altho I think I was the tool for going up and taking his word that he would be there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    before i bought the vectra i seen a nice 02 well spec'd 2.0d avensis for sale in carlow. rang the owner who was very polite and helpful. car was just NCT'd and had nothing bar a small bumper scuff on it shown in the photo's in the add he confirmed. motorcheck said everything was sound, so i made the trip from wicklow, a fair old haul.

    when me and dad get there we see the avensis parked up at the last space in a row, meet the owner at the driver side of the car, shake hands and small talk. start to stroll around the side of it and the whole passenger side was ripped clean off of it. crinkled front wing, both doors and rear quarter. did he honestly thing we would never notice? unreal what people think they can get away with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭$ausage$


    heres mine from my old account :(

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=56861064

    Still have her thought :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    before i bought the vectra i seen a nice 02 well spec'd 2.0d avensis for sale in carlow. rang the owner who was very polite and helpful. car was just NCT'd and had nothing bar a small bumper scuff on it shown in the photo's in the add he confirmed. motorcheck said everything was sound, so i made the trip from wicklow, a fair old haul.

    when me and dad get there we see the avensis parked up at the last space in a row, meet the owner at the driver side of the car, shake hands and small talk. start to stroll around the side of it and the whole passenger side was ripped clean off of it. crinkled front wing, both doors and rear quarter. did he honestly thing we would never notice? unreal what people think they can get away with.

    Did he have any explanation for the damage?
    Some people....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Maphisto


    obezyana wrote: »
    Worst I had was when I was looking to buy a mondeo the guy who was selling said he couldn't meet until after work so we agreed a time everything seemed all sound he seemed very genuwine so I told him I'd travel up and meet him at 530 at Huestin station. I travelled up from Kilkenny on the train and low and behold he was a no show and his phone magically turned off.

    Later that night I had some family and friends call and text him all night and the next day pretending to be interested in buying his car. The is some tools out there selling cars altho I think I was the tool for going up and taking his word that he would be there.

    I like that a lot, I'll be making use of that in similar circumstances.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,042 ✭✭✭Bpmull


    When I was buying my last car a focus van. I looked at a few mostly rough examples as are most vans. But the was one particular van. A 08 van with a 5k price tag pictures looked good and price was golf although it had 100k miles. Rang the owner and said I was serious and was living 2 hours away so was the van actually worth looking at. Him "it's absolutely mint"

    Drive up two hours well I arrived. Well fcuk me I've seen some rough things in my life but this was something else. All pictures avoided marks and scrapes. But it was the marks that put me off. I opened the door and didn't actually get in because I didn't want to have to through out my clothes after I sat in it. The back had that much grass in the back I actually though the owner was drawing sileage in it. The lacquer was completely peeling everywhere. Went to open the bonnet owner had to open it with a screw driver as lock was broken. Looked at the engine and genuinely it was like someone got a 5 litre drum of oil and poured it into every part of the engine. It didn't have a single oil leak is say there was about 10.

    At this point I hadn't even bothered starting it as it was that bad then the owner turns around and says I can't take less than 5k for it. I said good luck getting that for it and got in the car and left. Biggest waste of 5 hours of my life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    I could write a book. In fact, I think I will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭sean1141


    Never had many problems buying except a dealer in Dublin who had a spotless vw bora 130tdi for sale except when I arrived it was a 115bhp and looked like it had been drove through a ditch sideways!

    Selling. Had a guy offer me 1000 for a car I had up for sale for 3250. Told me it would be the best deal I would get and he was doing me a favour by giving me that much :rolleyes:

    Had another guy who wanted to come up from cork to view a car but wanted me to pay for his train ticket :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    bear1 wrote: »
    Did he have any explanation for the damage?
    Some people....

    he said it was mentioned in the ad. :rolleyes: still would have bought it if he was willing to reflect it in the price.

    our assumption was that it must have happened in the days between when the ad went up and when we viewed it and he was just chancing his arm. it wasn't written off or anything but something had clearly brushed the whole way down it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭cabledude


    sean1141 wrote: »
    Had another guy who wanted to come up from cork to view a car but wanted me to pay for his train ticket :eek:
    Legendary.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Satanta


    Drove from Donegal to Galway to see a Touareg. Spoke twice to the seller and asked specifically about the condition of the car, any problems etc etc. "The car is mint, needs nothing."

    1. Obvious signs of previous rear end damage.
    2. Front door of a different car. Both were black but the door had metallic speckles and the rest of the car didn't.
    3. None of the plastics in the engine bay (engine cover and peripheral surrounds were all gone)
    4. All under engine protection missing as well
    5. P1shing oil

    I told him I didn't want anything to do with it. He kept protesting there was never any oil in his street yada yada. Take it for a drive he said. It drives like new he said. BP meanwhile were pulling up beside us with exploratory gear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,844 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Nothing like the stories above.

    Did have a salesman try to claim that the car we were looking at had been used by the owners wife - a nurse - to go to and from work.

    Alas - the state of the interior was telling a different story - and looked very grubby and dirty inside.

    Had a dent or 2 on the outside too and had damage to the bumper

    Was very reluctant to sell the car with a warranty too.

    Given that it was a 3 year old car - and not exactly been sold at ultra cheap money - we left it behind.

    Just can't figure out why the Salesman figured hed try and claim the car was driven by the owners wife and that she was a nurse - when the interior condition was more in line with someone hopping into the car with dirty overalls/boots etc is beyond me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭MikeD22


    One woman called when I was selling my vento about a year and a half ago now.

    Woman: Hi is the vento still for sale?
    Me: Yeah its still here.
    Woman: Its a nice car but I don't like the colour
    Me: right well there's nothing I can do about that
    Woman: oh I know yeah.........
    Me: so you don't want it then?
    Woman: I don't know really
    Me: Why did you call then?
    Woman: Don't know
    Hangs up

    Bizzare conversation that lasted all of 15 seconds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭Colash


    Sold a car once to a guy . Private sale . Who tried to take me to court claiming I sold him a dangerous car . Found out later that he caused damage to the car , and tried to pass the Blame off on me!! Not a pleasant experience but my solicitor was a genius in that scenario . Also bought a passat off a guy which I found out was a right off a few months prior to me buying it . It came from the uk and was on the irish roads a few months before I bought it . :(
    Bought and sold around 25-30 cars in all me years of driving and they were the only two bad experiences I've had


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭serious3


    travelled all the way from clifden to mullingar with a trailer to look at a diesel fabia estate, got there did the usual look around inside and out before the test drive and noticed the mpi badge on the boot, girl selling insisted it was diesel then admitted that she never puts fuel in its always the husband and he says "i've dieseled up the car for you"..... i actualy had to get her to smell the filler cap to prove it to her!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,844 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    MikeD22 wrote: »
    One woman called when I was selling my vento about a year and a half ago now.

    Woman: Hi is the vento still for sale?
    Me: Yeah its still here.
    Woman: Its a nice car but I don't like the colour
    Me: right well there's nothing I can do about that
    Woman: oh I know yeah.........
    Me: so you don't want it then?
    Woman: I don't know really
    Me: Why did you call then?
    Woman: Don't know
    Hangs up

    Bizzare conversation that lasted all of 15 seconds.

    :D:D

    On another occasion i rang a dealer about a D4D Corolla hatch for my father.

    Chap was clearly very bored indeed - no warranty with the car (this been on a 06 D4D Corolla in 2009 FFS) unless he got an extra 5/600 euro on top of the price of the car :rolleyes:

    No service history despite it been a Uk car :rolleyes:

    Like why - just why :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,302 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    Cheap throw away phone €6

    PAYG sim €5

    Don't sell from your house

    No more hassle :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Maphisto


    Cheap throw away phone €6

    PAYG sim €5

    Don't sell from your house

    No more hassle :)


    Caveat emptor


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭O.A.P


    In London while testing driving a mark 4 cortina the gear stick came straight out in my hand right in front of a police station.
    I panicked although the seller had assured me I was insured to drive it once I had a license, I was not believing any more of his lies at this stage .
    So I let it roll up to the footpath between two cars with the back well out in the middle of the street.
    Got out "I'll get that fixed mate" says your man thinking I would hang around and help him move it. I handed him the gear stick and told him it needs a whole new car I wouldn't bother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 621 ✭✭✭weekaizer


    Drove donegal to Sligo to see a car, rang seller to arrange a viewing. He claims his friend borrowed the car as his gf stole his own car! So I said I would meet him at his friends house to see it, he says ok so I take off down the road, ring him about ten mins from Sligo, he said that He was stopped by the Gaurds in his own car and the car got towed( different to the one I was buying) I tell him I would collect him and take him to the car, he said ok, but then 5 mins later he rings back saying his friend will collect him and take him and the car I wanted to see back to his house bout 6 miles away and he would ring me when he was there, I wait in car park for 30 mins b4 I ring him back and he said 5 more mins I'll get back to you,
    25 more mins go by and I get bored waiting and drive home too thick to even answer his calls as he rings me as I go through bundoran..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,042 ✭✭✭Bpmull


    Actually just remembered I encountered a few time wasters when selling my focus only last week. One crowd showed up and were giving out over a few small marks on the alloys and that. They basically wanted a 141 for 1/4 of the price. Then another guy rang about 3 times seemed very interested was suppose to come look at it. Then just before he was due to come and look at it he rang and said he would love to buy the focus but that he found a berlingo for less money and that I would have to meet the price of the berlingo which was coincidently 500 euro less than my bottom line. I told him to go off and buy the berlingo. Then he seemed to try and back peddle just because I didn't fall for quite frankly the worst attempt at bargaining I'd ever heard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,302 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    This post has been deleted.

    No no throw it in the boot of the car before they drive off :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,651 ✭✭✭Captain Slow IRL


    3 short tales, all involve Dublin sellers (not picking on them, I've loads more!)

    1st - BMW coupe, reasonable money, being sold by a dealer. Talking to him on the phone; "It's mint, you won't find a cleaner one" So I take the mrs. on a 3 hour spin to the Dealer - pulling up alongside the car, I can see the front panels are badly aligned. Opening the bonnet reveals that one of the chassis legs were kinked and had split away from the side panel. 5 minutes and I was out of there, on a 3 hour journey home.

    2nd - BMW coupe, not cheap in comparison to similiar models, sold privately by someone claiming to be a mechanic. I asked was it ever crashed; "No" was the answer alongside claims that the clutch and hydraulics were just replaced. I got the train up that time as the mrs. was working and the seller met me at the train station. Walking up to the car, the front bumper was cracked from a smack. The passenger wing had been replaced and was fitted very poorly. When I asked the seller why he said it was never crashed, and him claiming to be a mechanic, his reply was "Not while I owned it" :mad:

    3rd - Another BMW coupe, private seller, car reasonably priced. Got to Liffey Valley to have a look over; not bad but needed a heap of work. I'd asked the seller about certain faults over the phone, he said this car had none....he had lied and pleaded ignorance when I mentioned them; like the howling rear wheel bearing that was noisy from the get-go! Seller would only come down feck all on price, so I politely refused.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭Youzername


    sean1141 wrote: »
    Never had many problems buying except a dealer in Dublin who had a spotless vw bora 130tdi for sale except when I arrived it was a 115bhp and looked like it had been drove through a ditch sideways!

    Selling. Had a guy offer me 1000 for a car I had up for sale for 3250. Told me it would be the best deal I would get and he was doing me a favour by giving me that much :rolleyes:

    Had another guy who wanted to come up from cork to view a car but wanted me to pay for his train ticket :eek:

    Went out to see a Bora myself one day, looked well in the pics.

    Rang up the dealer to ask him about, he said its a mint car, almost brand new looking, and based on the pics I could of agred.

    Went out to see it, and when I got there the guy I had been speaking to wasn't there. One of the other guys gave me the keys and said have a look he'll be back in 5 minutes.

    The car looked like it had just been through a WRC stage it was that dirty! The passenger door also had a massive dent in it, the bonnet pull didn't work so you couldn't take a look at the engine, and once opened the boot wouldn't close again....:rolleyes:

    The car didn't look remotely like it was advertised, I decided to just leave it on that basis alone.

    As I was leaving the guy I spoke to on the phone showed up, he asked me what I thought when one of the other dealers pointed me out. I said 'the car is anything but mint mate', and I commented the boot doesn't even stay closed let alone the rest.

    To which he replied, 'it was grand when I left, have you had it out on a test drive?', but almost as if to suggest had I done the damage! :eek:

    I just laughed and kept walking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Irishcrx


    Ohhhhhhhhhh yes!!

    I had an awful experience a few years back selling a Nissan Almera , I was buying a motorbike as I was moving jobs into the city centre , car was only worth a few hundred quid so just wanted rid of it.

    I put it up on adverts and accepted an offer , guy came down that evening to take it , said he was selling it on that evening to another fella so asked me for the logbook and he would fill it up (I was very naive here in doing this , didn't think of the implications) anyway off he went with car and I went and bought the bike the night after.

    A couple of days later I come from work and the other half tells me that the guards were at the house looking for me , they wouldn't say why so she gave them my number and theym said they would call me later. So they call me that evening when I'm out and ask if I'm the owner of XXD etc , I tell them that I was the owner but I had sold the car a few nights ago , guard says he needs to speak with me in person before revealing details so I head off home to wait for him , clearly concerned at this point with what is going on.

    So he's arrives at the house and proceeds to question me for over an hour in the kitchen , turns out the night I had sold the car it rear ended a taxi and the driver ran from the car , the passengers of the other car were injured , Almera was in a heap and there was vodka bottles found in the car , guard basically thought it was my car and that I had done a legger after crashing into it and was looking to arrest me. I explained to him what had happened with the log book , showed him the motorbike I just bought and tried to put my charactor accross as someone who is not stupid enough to run from the scene of an accident knowing full well they could easily trace me via the reg no.

    The only thing that saved me was adverts.ie , I had the other guy's details from that and partial proof that I had indeed sold the car. Made my statements and guard was satified I wasn't involved.

    Didn't end there I'm afraid , a few month's later I was getting solicitors letters from the passengers of the injured car looking for me to claim liabilty due to negligence and looking for costs of over €20,000 , all this 2 month's before me and the other half were having our 1st baby , I was up the walls. Had to get a solicitor , get back on to the guards for statements , in the end had to meet with insurance assessors , investigators and the injuries motor board who after much deliberation closed my involvement for good and took on the case. My NCB was also stopped through all of this.

    Never ever ever sell a car without signing the log book , keeping it and asking for ID from the seller to ensure it's their name they are putting on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,730 ✭✭✭dan_ep82


    Went to look at a "mint" Glanza. Asked all the usual questions over the phone about engine,suspension,body etc.

    Pulled up beside him at the meeting place and it looked like he tried to recreate the Mexican wave from the drivers door back with filler. The paint was the worst I've ever seen, not surprising as he done it himself with an aerosol can.

    Another young lad rang me two weeks after buying a car of me saying the rear axle was snapped and because of this he crashed it. I asked for reports of the damage from an independent garage because I know 100% there was nothing wrong with it. On the test drive I had to tell him to slow down and warned him to take it easy with it (winter roads,his first performance car) . Seen the add up the following week with not mention of any damage.

    Lately sold a car, the best car I've ever owned that I baby'd and never wanted for anything. Buyer was genuine, we agreed on a price and when he was going I asked him to take care of it etc (twinkle in the eye watching him reverse out lol) only for him to burn the wheels off the car outside the house and then sit a the top of the road limiting it. Just hearing the abuse it was getting was heartbreaking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 McIrish_


    Bought a 01 Peugeot 206 a few years back. Spend about 2K on the car, along with a further 200ish euro for tax. The car was good for the first five months. Then the piece of junk started giving me severe problems. First the gearbox went on the car costing almost 700 euro. I was raging and frustrated. Then the battery kept dying as the electrics were faulty. I needed two further batteries along with a million other parts. Then when I went to get a full service, I was told that there was no airbag in the car. Basically the car hadnt passed the previous NCT. The car was a deathtrap from the word go.

    I haven't owned a car since and probably never will, at least not a French model anyway


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 615 ✭✭✭jellyboy


    sean1141 wrote: »

    Had another guy who wanted to come up from cork to view a car but wanted me to pay for his train ticket :eek:

    Thats a win win if i ever saw it ,you get to meet a Corkman and he gets his holidays…




    I hope you agreed to pay for his ticket ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭sean1141


    Cheap throw away phone €6

    PAYG sim €5

    Don't sell from your house

    No more hassle :)
    Still wont stop clowns ringing you while you still have it for sale unfortunately.
    jellyboy wrote: »
    Thats a win win if i ever saw it ,you get to meet a Corkman and he gets his holidays…





    I hope you agreed to pay for his ticket ,

    He wasn't a Corkman nor Irish for that matter ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Maphisto


    Irishcrx wrote: »
    Ohhhhhhhhhh yes!!

    I had an awful experience a few years back selling a Nissan Almera , I was buying a motorbike as I was moving jobs into the city centre , car was only worth a few hundred quid so just wanted rid of it.

    I put it up on adverts and accepted an offer , guy came down that evening to take it , said he was selling it on that evening to another fella so asked me for the logbook and he would fill it up (I was very naive here in doing this , didn't think of the implications) anyway off he went with car and I went and bought the bike the night after.

    A couple of days later I come from work and the other half tells me that the guards were at the house looking for me , they wouldn't say why so she gave them my number and theym said they would call me later. So they call me that evening when I'm out and ask if I'm the owner of XXD etc , I tell them that I was the owner but I had sold the car a few nights ago , guard says he needs to speak with me in person before revealing details so I head off home to wait for him , clearly concerned at this point with what is going on.

    So he's arrives at the house and proceeds to question me for over an hour in the kitchen , turns out the night I had sold the car it rear ended a taxi and the driver ran from the car , the passengers of the other car were injured , Almera was in a heap and there was vodka bottles found in the car , guard basically thought it was my car and that I had done a legger after crashing into it and was looking to arrest me. I explained to him what had happened with the log book , showed him the motorbike I just bought and tried to put my charactor accross as someone who is not stupid enough to run from the scene of an accident knowing full well they could easily trace me via the reg no.

    The only thing that saved me was adverts.ie , I had the other guy's details from that and partial proof that I had indeed sold the car. Made my statements and guard was satified I wasn't involved.

    Didn't end there I'm afraid , a few month's later I was getting solicitors letters from the passengers of the injured car looking for me to claim liabilty due to negligence and looking for costs of over €20,000 , all this 2 month's before me and the other half were having our 1st baby , I was up the walls. Had to get a solicitor , get back on to the guards for statements , in the end had to meet with insurance assessors , investigators and the injuries motor board who after much deliberation closed my involvement for good and took on the case. My NCB was also stopped through all of this.

    Never ever ever sell a car without signing the log book , keeping it and asking for ID from the seller to ensure it's their name they are putting on it.

    Wow that's one scary tale. If I hadn't read it, I probably would have done the same "just to be helpful".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,844 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Maphisto wrote: »
    Wow that's one scary tale. If I hadn't read it, I probably would have done the same "just to be helpful".

    Yes that would be completely understandable - if you were trying to sell a car - especially one that was taking a while to sell - one might be inclined to think - anything to help the sale along.

    Nightmare situation :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭shamwari


    Sold my previous car to a foreign couple who sadly had a shocking and attoricious "nickle and dime" attitude to buying a car and money in general. My car was mint, low mileage, perfect driver, FSH, 18 months NCT, 5 months tax, and was priced at €4250. Their opening bid was €3100.... Naturally the urge was to run them but for sport I decicded to persevere. After two hours of the fraughest haggling imagineable, I got him to €3950 where the deal was agreed. Part of the agreement involved me bringing the car over to him the following day and close the deal there, and then he'd drop me home in their existing car. However the wife unexpectedly needed their existing car so he drove me back home over the M50 in the car he had just sold me - insisting he was insured. He then had the audacity to ring me two weeks later to complain that he'd received unpaid toll charges from that M50 trip and wondered why I hadn't paid them...... :rolleyes:

    Many moons ago, there was another tale where I was offered a cheap Astra in the middle of nowhere that needed a head gasket replaced. It was a two hour drive to get there and I agreed to look at it provided the seller didn't flog it whilst I was on route. So I left at noon and arrived just after 2pm. The yokel of a seller apologised that he'd sold it an hour earlier and forgot to ring me - despite undertaking not to sell it. I have to admit that disgraced myself with the uncharacertistically bad language I used therefter to tell the seller what I thought of him and how my time and fuel had been wasted. :(

    Around the same time my father was looking for a late Isuzu Gemini diesel and agreed to view one offered for sale near the border. The usuals seller descriptions of perfect car, needs no work, etc were given. What we didn't know was that the car was owned by a pig farmer, and the car was nothing more than a sty. When it started, half the farm disappeared in a grey smokey cloud, the smell of which suggested that the car was running on something more illicit than diesel. Again a wasted journey that was predicated on sellers opinion being somewhere between imaginary and downright deluded. :o

    Contrast that with the pleasure I had buying the car I have now. The seller couldn't have been as helpful or gone out of his way more to effect a sale. The car was excellently presented, exactly as described and with full written service history. I did the test drive, agreed a price, paid him a deposit and called back with my father the next day to collect it. He had all the paper work in order, the car was hoover, washed, and even a tenner worth of fuel put in the tank. He even had tea an sarnies for me and dad. Sadly you very rarely meet folk like this chap nowadays, let alone have the pleasure of dealing with them. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 866 ✭✭✭renofan


    My cousin from Sligo asked me to look at a Civic/Starlet in Portlaoise for him a few years ago. A boy racers car that looked shoite to me but I agreed to look at it anyways.

    Fella would only meet me at the filling station down the road from the Midway Hotel so that was the first issue. Got there he was there with the car running, blue smoke out the exhaust. No tax, no nct, butts and power drink cans all over the interior. Wouldn't let me turn the car off, he and a mate had just done the head gasket themselves (they meant the rocker cover gasket!), whole engine caked in oil.

    I was there 3 mins and wanted to go but he insisted I take it for a spin with my girlfriend and he'd mind my car! Fcukin retard! I told the gf to stay in my car and told your man to stay in the passenger seat of his. I didn't get out of second gear and just turned the car around. As far as I was concerned it was a death trap. He was the typical boy racer, unwashed greasy hair with pushed back cap, tracksuit from pennys etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Irishcrx


    Maphisto wrote: »
    Wow that's one scary tale. If I hadn't read it, I probably would have done the same "just to be helpful".

    It was really bad , the most stressed out I've been in my life, the reality was that it was 50/50 I was going to be done for this and be liable for these costs , loose my NCB and possibly go to jail, only a couple of tling's saved me from it.

    1. Adverts.ie
    2. Football manager (I was playing it the night of the incident and could show him the game file on my laptop to prove I was home)
    3. Charactor witnesses

    The insurance assessor seemed to take pity on me as well and sided in my favour but explained it wasn't going to be his decision in the end it'll be up to the company but he did go out of his way to help me, chase the guard in question down who he got by chance ,when phoning the station for the 10th time he overheard the conversation and remembered me , took the phone and told him that he was 100 percent convinced I wasn't the guy, said he thought I was when arriving at the housh and was ready to arrest me but I convinced him otherwise.

    Also the guy from the injuries board turned out to be a distand relitive of mine ,that broke the ice nicely.

    I had a large drink the day it was finally put to bed. You really do have to go into these thing's eyes open, you think it may never happen but there ya go. All over a poxy €300 car.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    Wow Irishcrx... I think you win this thread so far!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭Spike Witwicky


    shamwari wrote: »

    Contrast that with the pleasure I had buying the car I have now. The seller couldn't have been as helpful or gone out of his way more to effect a sale. The car was excellently presented, exactly as described and with full written service history. I did the test drive, agreed a price, paid him a deposit and called back with my father the next day to collect it. He had all the paper work in order, the car was hoover, washed, and even a tenner worth of fuel put in the tank. He even had tea an sarnies for me and dad. Sadly you very rarely meet folk like this chap nowadays, let alone have the pleasure of dealing with them. :)

    That seller needs to get a job as a car salesman. The industry needs more people like this :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,622 ✭✭✭lassykk


    I had a brilliant experience with the now defunct (from a quick google search) Kilgarve Cars in Ballinasloe.

    I was looking for a 2.2 HDi 406 coupe in blue (a rare enough car) and one came up in Galway. Being from south Kilkenny I wasn't overly delighted driving up but said I would ring and see what the story was as it was good value and easier than going to the UK.

    Rang up, got the details of the car, and everything sounded spot on.

    Separately and coincidentally I arranged to sell my car to someone from Galway so I went up one Saturday with my mechanic (he drove separately) to hopefully sell one car and buy the other.

    Sold my car on the day and went to the dealer to take the car for a test drive. I hadn't told him I was selling my car but I did say if everything was right with the 406 I would be interested in taking it. Everything was perfect with the car so I was delighted.

    Went back to talk money with the dealer and he said I couldn't take the car until the following weekend as it wasn't actually his to sell yet. He had advertised the car for sale and arranged, without telling me, a test drive for the owner of the car so that the car would be in his garage when I arrived. I don't know what he hoped to achieve from this other than pissing me off.

    Anyway I went home very annoyed but knew it was still the right car for me.

    I went back the following Saturday to complete the deal and he had graciously! agreed to meet me about 20 miles from his garage to save me coming the full way. I had to get dropped up to wherever it was (can't remember the town) and waited for him to arrive at the agreed time. About 20 minutes after the time we'd agreed he rang to say he'd been held up and could I come to him instead. I said I couldn't as I had been dropped in the town and had no transport to get any further.

    Eventually he arrived with the car on a transporter. I gave him the money to count and then it happened. He claimed that I had given him €1k less in cash than we had agreed. Well, I saw red, to say the least, and we had quite a heated arguement on the side of the road. Eventually, he conceded that I had given him the correct amount and I got the car.

    It was definitely one of the worst car experiences I've ever had but a few lessons learned:

    - The guy running Kilgarve cars was/is a prick
    - Don't trust a car dealer anymore than a private sale

    Thankfully the car was perfect and had 5 years of happy motoring in it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭Harcrid


    I remember looking for an Octavia for my father and we found one on Done deal in Cork. Pictures in the ad were excellent, high resolution and you could see the car was immaculate. Spoke to to seller who said everything was accurate in the ad and the car was mint with nothing to do to it.

    So I drive down to Cork with my Dad to meet the seller at a petrol station from where we were to follow him to his house. We were sitting waiting for him to show when a car similar to the one we were looking to view drove in but this one was scratched from nose to tail with a hole under the rear light cluster where you could see through into the boot. Car had not even been washed for a few months at a guess.

    I looked over at my Dad and said surely not, but yes, it was the car we were looking to view. The seller gets out without a bother and asks us to go for a test drive but we didn't even bother looking at it. We questioned the car and why it did not look like the pics and he said they were pictures from when he had bought it four years previously! Told him where to go and we didn't appreciate his inaccurate description and he says "If I knock 2k off would you be interested then?" No chance mate!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Had a yoing guy about 19 looking to buy a car once.Came down, had a look and everything went well.He told me he was waiting for a credit union loan to be approved but he really wanted the car.He had no cash for a deposit so he gave me an ipod (fairly snazzy new technology at the time) so I agreed. 3 weeks later after turning down a lot of potential buyers he rang me to tell me his loan wasn't approved and he wanted his ipod back.Needless to say, I've been using that ipod in my car ever since.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,042 ✭✭✭Bpmull


    shamwari wrote: »
    Contrast that with the pleasure I had buying the car I have now. The seller couldn't have been as helpful or gone out of his way more to effect a sale. The car was excellently presented, exactly as described and with full written service history. I did the test drive, agreed a price, paid him a deposit and called back with my father the next day to collect it. He had all the paper work in order, the car was hoover, washed, and even a tenner worth of fuel put in the tank. He even had tea an sarnies for me and dad. Sadly you very rarely meet folk like this chap nowadays, let alone have the pleasure of dealing with them. :)

    I have to say with the golf I bought this week I had a similar experience. I went to look at the car the guy was sound. Let me look away he apologised about how dirty it was but what he was describing as dirty would be a car that was as clean as most cars are like just after they've been cleaned. So I made the deal and my biggest concern is that he would sell the car to someone else as he was even getting calls about it when I was there. So I said I'd take it but couldn't get money till the next day.

    So he said that if I gave him a deposit he would consider the car mine so I gave him 100 euro deposit. He just said to give him 4 hours notice. I arrived to collect the car at the agreed time. He had spent several hours machine polishing it not an ounce of tar on it. Gave me all the vw receipts for parts it also has a full stamped service history. He almost filled it with diesel too. The sale really couldn't have went better. Even now I have it 3 days and everytime I sit in it I think this can't be 07 it's just so clean I still can't find a scratch on it. Just shows it's often worth spending more to get a well minded car. Most cars are cheap for a reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭Youzername


    shamwari wrote: »
    Contrast that with the pleasure I had buying the car I have now. The seller couldn't have been as helpful or gone out of his way more to effect a sale. The car was excellently presented, exactly as described and with full written service history. I did the test drive, agreed a price, paid him a deposit and called back with my father the next day to collect it. He had all the paper work in order, the car was hoover, washed, and even a tenner worth of fuel put in the tank. He even had tea an sarnies for me and dad. Sadly you very rarely meet folk like this chap nowadays, let alone have the pleasure of dealing with them. :)

    There are a few of them out there :)

    The bloke who sold me my current car was an absolute gent. He was a small time dealer and seemed like a nice guy.

    Tbh, when buying that I almost felt the deal was too good to be true so I was quite a bit sceptical about the whole thing, particularly considering some of the swindlers I've experienced with in the past.

    I think the guy sensed this, not that I would particularly have hidden my feelings, but he was up front, honest and helpful, and I couldn't honestly find a fault with the car, it had a FSH and was clean as whistle.

    He had met me in a car park to view the car, but he suggested going back to his house to finalise the deal which added to my confidence, plus he was being cautious and asking for ID and everything, so decided so take the plunge and bought the car on the spot.

    I am still absolutely delighted with my purchase :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,712 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Cheap throw away phone €6

    PAYG sim €5

    Don't sell from your house

    No more hassle :)

    Do they not see your address on the log book ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭fl4pj4ck


    and memorized it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    Irishcrx wrote: »
    2. Football manager (I was playing it the night of the incident and could show him the game file on my laptop to prove I was home)

    Makes a change from FM being named in divorce cases anyway.


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