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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭oztop1234


    I agree with you completely.

    Bound to be more than enough.


  • Registered Users Posts: 411 ✭✭Cromlech


    Can only hope that a fair few are weeded out through medical/PCA failures to give us a chance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭oztop1234


    This has got to be one of the most expensive campaigns if they are running more AC's.

    Can't be cheap on such short notice.


  • Registered Users Posts: 411 ✭✭Cromlech


    It baffles me as to why they would be holding more AC's when potentially all B's go pass the next stages. Unless they have definitely secured funding for a lot more officers than initially recruited for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 101 ✭✭gmck26


    Cromlech wrote: »
    Even still, using myself as a bench mark for candidates, I'm sure there are more than enough to fulfill that number that are at the same stage as the rest of us or have even progressed further.

    The problem is there is not. As I heard from supervisor in the force that they were asked if they would have confidence in an officer who scored less than 50% in AC. They said no.

    This was just before the people with IT issues got a second chance. I can only assume that they still do not have the numbers of acceptable candidates for this campaign.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 508 ✭✭✭.S.


    But a 50% isn't a B, it's a fail so they won't be in the job regardless. Pass mark is 60% up. I don't know with 100% certainty but it does baffle me why they would drop the ist pass mark, with so many of us waiting and hopefully progressing.. To be honest if I thought it would get me anywhere / I knew who to contact I'd ring up but guess all we can do is wait...


  • Registered Users Posts: 411 ✭✭Cromlech


    gmck26 wrote: »
    The problem is there is not. As I heard from supervisor in the force that they were asked if they would have confidence in an officer who scored less than 50% in AC. They said no.

    This was just before the people with IT issues got a second chance. I can only assume that they still do not have the numbers of acceptable candidates for this campaign.

    That gives me a bit of hope, it is worrying that a great number of us have heard nothing in almost a month, with this wait added onto the delay emails from ac it's quite disheartening. I'm sure I don't only speak for myself when I say I'm ready and raring to go through the next stages. I'd rather complete them and then have the long wait.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 444 ✭✭Sthm


    http://www.psni.police.uk/psni_latest_recruitment_campaign.pdf

    The cost was around 1.1m apparently - I actually thought it'd have been more expensive than that.

    Even 1,000 candidates, for example, going through these next stages, there will and have been a lot of non-attendances, fails and so on. Using the numbers in the first batch of passes as an example, out of approximately 108 put through the next five stages, only around 60 apparently made it to medical. Factor in medical fails, any withdrawals etc. then you maybe have 50 odd left with a job offer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭oztop1234


    I've asked the people on the PCA thread to see if they can find anything out when they go to their familiarisation event. Obviously nothing to annoy anyone but just if they hear anything


  • Registered Users Posts: 411 ✭✭Cromlech


    Thanks, a bit more info would help me to relax, it seems like poor candidate management to not provide a point of contact for the likes of us.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Clare1304


    Hopefully we will hear something tomorrow. Really hope tomorrow gives me confidence for Pca rather than doubt :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 411 ✭✭Cromlech


    I'm sure it will be fine, it's not like we are trying to get into the Marines. If you look at some of the police officers currently plodding about I'm sure a pass is achievable for almost anyone. I say that now, I'll probably change my tune come my turn.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭DesertCreat_15


    More and more people keep coming out of the woodwork, loads waiting to do their PCA now !


    I give up !


  • Registered Users Posts: 411 ✭✭Cromlech


    I know how you feel, just need to keep positive, our time will come (eventually).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Clare1304


    There's only one familiarisation event in comparison to when there were two or even 3 before so I def would say this next batch is going to be a small one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭oztop1234


    Do you think the results of this PCA batch will determine how mAny B's they get in contact with?


  • Registered Users Posts: 450 ✭✭gigity gigity


    I think that the B group will get invited to next stage! We just need to be patient. We also need to know exactly how many have been invited to PCA already when we know that and roughly how many failed we will know how long our wait is!


  • Registered Users Posts: 508 ✭✭✭.S.


    I think the reference in the PCA thread is only one evening familiarisation, think there's morn/afternoon ones too, doubt the next batch will be any smaller yet. Hoping/praying our time will come, patience isn't my strong point but not giving up hope yet!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Yorkist


    My partner is currently waiting on PCA with mid to high 60s
    Found out the following by asking someone in the know and thought I would sign up and share as others are in the same position:

    You stand a very very good chance if you passed the AC of progressing through to employment (obviously providing you pass PCA,medical etc.)
    Intake of new recruits every 5 weeks with the conclusion/completion of this recruitment expected September
    Next recruitment to start in the next few months and is expected to be a yearly process
    A lot of people failing the PCA with women struggling on the Push/Pull so upper body strength and technique should be worked on, weights, rowing machines etc.

    Now most of the above is what I have read on these forums, but obtained this from the horses mouth so to speak.
    Puts our mind at rest and should see batches of people hearing things on a 5 week cycle or thereabouts.
    We expect to hear in the next batch and have the PCA in May, fingers crossed and good luck to everyone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Yorkist


    Yorkist wrote: »
    My partner is currently waiting on PCA with mid to high 60s
    Found out the following by asking someone in the know and thought I would sign up and share as others are in the same position:

    You stand a very very good chance if you passed the AC of progressing through to employment (obviously providing you pass PCA,medical etc.)
    Intake of new recruits every 5 weeks with the conclusion/completion of this recruitment expected September
    Next recruitment to start in the next few months and is expected to be a yearly process
    A lot of people failing the PCA with women struggling on the Push/Pull so upper body strength and technique should be worked on, weights, rowing machines etc.

    Now most of the above is what I have read on these forums, but obtained this from the horses mouth so to speak.
    Puts our mind at rest and should see batches of people hearing things on a 5 week cycle or thereabouts.
    We expect to hear in the next batch and have the PCA in May, fingers crossed and good luck to everyone.

    Since it wont let me edit just to say expecting to hear PCA in late May/June rather than May


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  • Registered Users Posts: 508 ✭✭✭.S.


    Interesting... Thanks for posting and good luck to you/your partner as well


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 444 ✭✭Sthm


    Yorkist wrote: »
    My partner is currently waiting on PCA with mid to high 60s
    Found out the following by asking someone in the know and thought I would sign up and share as others are in the same position:

    You stand a very very good chance if you passed the AC of progressing through to employment (obviously providing you pass PCA,medical etc.)
    Intake of new recruits every 5 weeks with the conclusion/completion of this recruitment expected September
    Next recruitment to start in the next few months and is expected to be a yearly process
    A lot of people failing the PCA with women struggling on the Push/Pull so upper body strength and technique should be worked on, weights, rowing machines etc.

    Now most of the above is what I have read on these forums, but obtained this from the horses mouth so to speak.
    Puts our mind at rest and should see batches of people hearing things on a 5 week cycle or thereabouts.
    We expect to hear in the next batch and have the PCA in May, fingers crossed and good luck to everyone.

    Cheers for signing up and sharing, Yorkist.

    Did your source suggest any numbers currently on the merit list? And is that around September when they expect everyone to have been phased through all of the remaining five stages?


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 Gilz_2001


    Yorkist wrote: »
    My partner is currently waiting on PCA with mid to high 60s
    Found out the following by asking someone in the know and thought I would sign up and share as others are in the same position:

    You stand a very very good chance if you passed the AC of progressing through to employment (obviously providing you pass PCA,medical etc.)
    Intake of new recruits every 5 weeks with the conclusion/completion of this recruitment expected September
    Next recruitment to start in the next few months and is expected to be a yearly process
    A lot of people failing the PCA with women struggling on the Push/Pull so upper body strength and technique should be worked on, weights, rowing machines etc.

    Now most of the above is what I have read on these forums, but obtained this from the horses mouth so to speak.
    Puts our mind at rest and should see batches of people hearing things on a 5 week cycle or thereabouts.
    We expect to hear in the next batch and have the PCA in May, fingers crossed and good luck to everyone.

    Thanks for sharing! Thats a more positive outlook now, I was losing hope... fingers crossed we all hear soon!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Yorkist


    Sthm wrote: »
    Cheers for signing up and sharing, Yorkist.

    Did your source suggest any numbers currently on the merit list? And is that around September when they expect everyone to have been phased through all of the remaining five stages?

    No they didn't mention numbers on the merit list, just that more than they thought were failing the latter stages (including PCA).
    And yes it was September they expected everyone to have been processed and given a start date/in training. From may to end September is 21 weeks, so at 5 weeks per intake (expected) then 5 intakes available, hope they get the number up to 60 per intake then that makes 300 training places available. So the numbers and dates stack up (ish) but as with everything, we are planning on maybe a month or 2 run over as that seems to be par for the course.

    Obviously may change or run over but that's the plan they know. It was just a casual conversation by a chance meeting but the source is probably second to none after HR and the chief constable. The other thing they stressed, as is widely known, that they need trained officers on the street now and some divisions are stretched beyond belief. Unfortunately wont have the opportunity to quiz them further due to being a one off occurrence so that's all the info I know, so we all have the same info now and all in the same boat. Any further from me will be just speculation but if I hear anything else then will let everyone know as we know what its like to be in limbo as we are currently sorting out school places in England and NI just in case


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Clare1304


    Went to my event today which was good. Was told a few things.
    If we pass these next stages we're in. They are doing intakes right up until January. New campaign in May and another one this time next year.
    It's just a waiting game but there is most definitly light at the end of the tunnel, a flashing blue light to be precise ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 411 ✭✭Cromlech


    So I'd be right in assuming that any of us still waiting will be in as well providing we pass everything.


  • Registered Users Posts: 450 ✭✭gigity gigity


    good news then. Just to clarify, did your source say a new campaign next month? and another may 2015?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 106 ✭✭Clare1304


    Said May this year and same time next year.
    I really think everyone at this stage will get in if they pass pca and medical.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 444 ✭✭Sthm


    Cheers for the update, Clare.

    What kind of numbers were at your familiarisation?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭oztop1234


    Good news! I'll still be applying in May to be safe!

    Loving the info thanks :-)


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