Outdoor Venue for festival type wedding

Helpmeeee!

I have just got engaged and we are having an August wedding in 5 mths eek! We have decided on hiring a large tipi where we will have our food (done by a caterer) and the tipi also houses a dance-floor and small stage. We also are having our ceremony outside. So the vibe is festival, hippy and chilled. I am having difficulty sourcing somewhere to actually put the large tipis! I need land to rent/hire for the weekend. I have sourced one hostel that rents for the whole weekend but the dimensions of the tipis may be too big. Ive tried daft etc for renting a house with land etc to no avail. Has anybody got any ideas?? Lots of the country houses insist on providing the catering and charge accordingly and we already have a caterer friend. Leinster is our area if possible.. HELP!!!

Dolbert

Try these

Anna Carriga

Mount Druid

Moongate

homemadecider

Look up Inis Beg in Cork, you can rent the whole island.

Maudi

Have you tried kippure est.wicklow mountains?

Helpmeeee!

Thanks, yeh tried kippure and its booked out, as is mount Druid and Moongate : ( This is my trouble with it only being 5 mths away. If only someone had a big house with a huge garden for rent who wouldnt mind their garden trampled by a fair few feet all night!

Inis Beg sounds cool..will check it out..much further than I want but I cant be a chooser at this late stage. Thanks homemadecider!

Starrgrrl

Huntington castle in Carlow has room for a marquee I think so tipee might fit. I was reading about a glamping site recently (not mount druid) but can't remember the name. Somewhere like that might be an option. Don't forget the portaloos!!

Starrgrrl

http://wildflowerglamping.ie
The power of google!!

Helpmeeee!

All suggested venues booked out..thanks anyway..

MissFlitworth

Maybe one of the Irish Landmark Trust buildings would work

http://www.irishlandmark.com/properties/

Dolbert

Brigits Garden in Galway could work very well

http://www.brigitsgarden.ie/

almorris

Have you tried taking a spin out to the country and checking out some farmer's fields? If everywhere else is booked? Surely some farmer will cut a deal with you.

Good luck.

amdublin

Are you hiring a teepee?

Can you post link to it please as a friend of mine was asking about one of these last week!

(Ps. I assume you mean "teepee" - pronounced as it is spelt teeeeee-peeeee and not tipi which I am reading as tippy or tip-pee )


Edit!
Just done a little google and see some companies call them tipis....very strange imo but there you go!

Could you post co. you are using please?!

tbeans

We've previously looked at this option before decising against but here are other options in Cork that we found could faciliate marquee -

http://www.lissardestate.com/the-estate.html
http://www.bantryhouse.com/bantryhouse/
http://www.tripadvisor.ie/VacationRentalReview-g211877-d2053918-Dunowen_House-Clonakilty_County_Cork.html

username123

How are you having an outdoor ceremony? My understanding is that HSE registrars have an onerous set of rules to follow, one of which stipulates only preapproved indoor venues. If this has changed I know a number of people who will be delighted! Unless you are not using an HSE registrar?

pooch90

Even the humanists are being awkward RE outdoor ceremonies now too.

grind gremlin

username123 wrote: »

How are you having an outdoor ceremony? My understanding is that HSE registrars have an onerous set of rules to follow, one of which stipulates only preapproved indoor venues. If this has changed I know a number of people who will be delighted! Unless you are not using an HSE registrar?

Spiritualist union of Ireland do outdoor ceremonies

username123

grind gremlin wrote: »

Spiritualist union of Ireland do outdoor ceremonies

Are they HSE approved registrars?

snickerpuss

Borris House in Co Carlow perhaps?

Gatica

username123 wrote: »

Are they HSE approved registrars?

Yes, they'd be on the list, from what I remember it's Tom Colton and Mary Losty.

PS: They'd be called solemnisers, not registrars. Registrars would only be the HSE staff, a priest would be a solemniser, but not a registrar for example.
Excel list available here http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/General-Register-Office.aspx
SU starts at line 5598. Looks like they've plenty more than 2 solemnisers now.

username123

Thats great news re the solemnisers - cheers for the heads up people!

Milly33

M if tis any good but they would all be corkish located

Dunowen house loverly lady and stepped in music history..Tis just outside Clonakility good for a small wedding.
Glebe Gardens was another but it would have to end early and not sure about the tipi think they have their own canopy.
Cloghjordan house Tipperary
Ballinwillaim Mitchelstown.

LoopyL

Claregalway Castle Co. Galway

http://www.claregalwaycastle.com/

http://www.confetti.ie/real-wedding/ann-and-damien%E2%80%99s-fun-filled-diy-wedding-claregalway-castle

pooch90

grind gremlin wrote: »

Spiritualist union of Ireland do outdoor ceremonies

Do you mind me asking how long ago you got married outdoors?
We had ours booked with the Humanists for this summer, they are now back-tracking and saying that doing it outdoors could leave us open to someone questioning the legality and validity of it.

Their bright idea now is that we do a mini indoor ceremony beforehand and then do the outdoor ceremony. So I would have no walking down the aisle being the first time OH sees me. Absolute bullsh!t IMHO. Also, not happening.

I know yours was with the spiritualists but would assume same rules apply.

Sorry for going off-topic guys!

Gatica

we had ours end of 2012.
The SU and Humanists wouldn't necessarily have the same rules as they're different type of ceremonies.

Registrar - civil
Humanists - secular
SU/RCC - religious

pooch90

Ah, thank you Gatica, apologies for the mix up.
Are Humanists the only type of secular celebrants?

Gatica

Yes, I believe the specific term has been brought in to describe Humanist ceremonies once they became legal.
I did hear on another thread people saying that the wording about the rules of ceremonies on the HSE website had been changed so I can't say 100% that SU would be able to keep doing outdoor ceremonies. Best thing is to ask them directly. The marriage forms really only say names and where you get married not whether indoor/outdoor, and then are signed on the day, and it's up to the solemniser to make sure that it is done in a legal way (e.g. apart from witnesses, who'd know whether he asks you whether you know of any impediment etc...?).

bananabubbles

pooch90 wrote: »

Do you mind me asking how long ago you got married outdoors?
We had ours booked with the Humanists for this summer, they are now back-tracking and saying that doing it outdoors could leave us open to someone questioning the legality and validity of it.

Their bright idea now is that we do a mini indoor ceremony beforehand and then do the outdoor ceremony. So I would have no walking down the aisle being the first time OH sees me. Absolute bullsh!t IMHO. Also, not happening.

I know yours was with the spiritualists but would assume same rules apply.

Sorry for going off-topic guys!

I am having the same problem. I have gotten advise from several hse registry office employees and another humanist solemiser that as long as the legal declarations and signing is done within an approved structure with a fixed abode (an address. Not a random field or by powers court waterfall for example), then what happens before or after is irrelevant.
This means that you can go ahead with the outdoor ceremony but afterwards the couple, registered solemiser(humanist), witnesses ( and I have been advised to have a photographer for further evidence) all go into the registered room and do the quick legal bit. There is nothing illegal about that. Once the declarations and signing is done inside, you are married. It's all fuss over nothing.

Here Comes The Trio

bananabubbles wrote: »

I am having the same problem. I have gotten advise from several hse registry office employees and another humanist solemiser that as long as the legal declarations and signing is done within an approved structure with a fixed abode (an address. Not a random field or by powers court waterfall for example), then what happens before or after is irrelevant.
This means that you can go ahead with the outdoor ceremony but afterwards the couple, registered solemiser(humanist), witnesses ( and I have been advised to have a photographer for further evidence) all go into the registered room and do the quick legal bit. There is nothing illegal about that. Once the declarations and signing is done inside, you are married. It's all fuss over nothing.

We played for a ceremony similar to that before. They had the "full" ceremony outdoors, walked back down the aisle and into a little room and did the legal bit as the guests walked around outside, and then they came back out two minutes later and it just became the drinks reception :P It wasn't strange at all! They were outdoors, only a couple of meters away from an entrance to the hotel so it would of course depend on yer own individual venues.

Starrgrrl

I think you should talk to your solemniser before choosing a venue with no indoor option at all. as far as I know the humanists are getting a little hassle about outdoor ceremonies at the moment so double check with whoever is performing your ceremony 1st maybe!

pooch90

bananabubbles wrote: »

I am having the same problem. I have gotten advise from several hse registry office employees and another humanist solemiser that as long as the legal declarations and signing is done within an approved structure with a fixed abode (an address. Not a random field or by powers court waterfall for example), then what happens before or after is irrelevant.
This means that you can go ahead with the outdoor ceremony but afterwards the couple, registered solemiser(humanist), witnesses ( and I have been advised to have a photographer for further evidence) all go into the registered room and do the quick legal bit. There is nothing illegal about that. Once the declarations and signing is done inside, you are married. It's all fuss over nothing.

See, I would have no issue with this (well small issue) and we had arranged that we would go indoors after to do the legal bits. However, they now have backtracked again and said that they want it done first. I'm not prepared to do that.

fiona-f

This might be stating the absolute obvious but have you factored in access to toilet facilities? I only ask because you mention stuff like just renting a normal house with large garden or a farm field. For anything more than a tiny number of guests, you would need something close to a commercial / public space suite of loos. You can rent posh portacabin loos with proper interiors, sinks, mirrors etc but I imagine they are very expensive and would need a lot of advance planning to site them etc.. While a festival vibe would be great fun for a wedding, one of my horrors at festivals is dirty / inadequate loos, I can only imagine that is worse if you are all dolled up in your finery. Don't forget car parking space too. And work area for your caterers - for example if they have no proper kitchen space, they wil need a huge quantity of glasses to see you through the evening.

Best of luck, hope you get it sorted.

Shauna.Henn

I was at a great wedding in Straffan Steam Museum, with the ceremony in the stunning walled gardens

http://steam-museum.com/

They have good outdoor spaces, so maybe they'd let you do the marquee thing.

LUZ

id say it would cost more to do it this way with all the bits and bobs you have to pay for, it all adds up. Have you tried lisvanagh house?? i did a wedding there last year and they have a lovely marquee and loads of grounds so you could use the teepees as well, might be worth finding out a price anyway. good luck with it all!!

amdublin

What about do all the legal stuff and then do the outdoor ceremony nice and slow and relaxes not even having to think about the legal stuff.

username123

amdublin wrote: »

What about do all the legal stuff and then do the outdoor ceremony nice and slow and relaxes not even having to think about the legal stuff.

Is the issue not that the words comprise some of the legal part and the documents another but that the order must be that the words are spoken then the documents signed?

It's such a heap of nonsense. It could all be made far simpler if the HSE wanted but they have these silly rules and that's that.

IrelandsMedium

The Civil Registrations Act 2004 governs how marriages carried out in the state are notified, performed and registered. Up September 2013 the Spiritualist Union of Ireland (SUI) have performed legally binding outdoor wedding ceremonies in line with the legislation and also in line with the MRF forms issued by the HSE in particular for outdoor venues including venues like the Cliffs of Moher. The legislation has not changed. The General Registrars office has issued a letter to all registered solemnisers stating thatin the General Registrars “view” the venue for a ceremony has to be a building. Section 52 of the Civil Registrations Act 2004 is very clear:
52.—(1) Notwithstanding any statutory provision that conflicts with this subsection, a marriage may be solemnised only at a place and time chosen by the parties to the marriage with the agreement of the registered solemniser concerned
It does not state that the venue has to be a buildingn or that the ceremony has to be indoors. The legislation does provide:
51.—(2) (c) the place where the solemnisation takes place is open to the public.
The place must be easily identifiable by address so on a beach or the middle of the mountains would not be suitable venues, neither is a private house.
We have asked the General Registrars office where in the legislation does it allow him to express a “view” on the location of a marriage ceremony. Many couples have also asked this question, it is one which he has refused to answer to anyone, simplybecause he cant as it is not contained in the legislation.
The connection to the outdoors and “Mother Earth” forms part of our religious beliefs and plays a part in the Rites and Ceremonies of the Spiritualist Union of Ireland. In accordance with the legislation listed above the SUI has informed the General Registrars Office through our solicitors of our intention to continue to carry out outdoor ceremonies in line with the legislation and our religious beliefs. Couples may seek their own legal advice on this matter should they wish to have a legally binding outdoor wedding ceremony.

A "Private" house is not open or accessible to the publicso therefore a legally binding ceremony cannot take place there

Tibbery

Were having our wedding in Knockree youth hostel Enniskerry. See if you can fit a teepee out there? Can't see why not.

snickerpuss

Glebe Gardens in Baltimore, Co. Cork do marquee weddings in their lovely gardens.

megan2013

Maybe try the Station House Hotel in Kilmessan. They have lovely grounds and the venue is quite unique. Maybe they let you use their grounds.

stinkle

pooch90 wrote: »

Do you mind me asking how long ago you got married outdoors?
We had ours booked with the Humanists for this summer, they are now back-tracking and saying that doing it outdoors could leave us open to someone questioning the legality and validity of it.

Their bright idea now is that we do a mini indoor ceremony beforehand and then do the outdoor ceremony. So I would have no walking down the aisle being the first time OH sees me.

That's really annoying. Can they not have the indoor bit afterwards, like how at a church wedding the b&g disappear off somewhere with best man and BM to sign the register? Ours is an indoor humanist ceremony but since they have been advertising outdoor ones I figured that's how they got around HSE rules.

Milly33

Just came out of the reg office today getting all the details sorted and was told that all must be indoors or under some kind of roof now.