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Fat Putter Grips

  • 28-03-2014 8:38pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭


    What's your thoughs on these lads?

    I've never hit a putt with one but when I mess around with them in the pro shop they do feel quite comfortable to me and doing practice strokes it definitely feels like there is minimal wrist movement.

    Has anyone went with them and noticed a considerable difference or are they just a psychological advantage?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 187 ✭✭peepee


    Have used one, they wont fix the yips, but it is harder to break the wrists.

    They also significantly change the swing weight of a putter so be warned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭curly from cork


    I've had one on my putter for about two years now Delighted with it .. I have tendonitis in my elbow and I find the fat grip stops me from gripping the bejesus out of the putter , and tightening up the whole way to my elbow .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭ForeRight


    peepee wrote: »
    Have used one, they wont fix the yips, but it is harder to break the wrists.

    They also significantly change the swing weight of a putter so be warned.



    I don't have the yips but I'm prone to having a terrible stroke due to cracking the wrists.

    In regard to the weight do you mean you lose a bit of the feel on the club and have to adapt to your swing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭SnowDrifts


    Switched to one last year (Winn Jumbo) and love it. Picking up a putter now with a normal sized grip just feels completely alien to me. Perhaps it's in my head but the fat grip just makes it seem like my wrists and hands are more locked.. less movement.

    I was using the P2 Grip (it's midsize grip -thread on here somewhere about it) previously and also found it good but wanted something fatter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭ForeRight


    Has anyone got evidence of improvement with their stats using a standard grip compared to the fat grip?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭SnowDrifts


    ForeRight wrote: »
    Has anyone got evidence of improvement with their stats using a standard grip compared to the fat grip?

    Unfortunately I only started keeping stats at the end of last year. Since switching from a normal grip I have lost 3 shots off my handicap but that could be a result of a long list of things!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭ForeRight


    SnowDrifts wrote: »
    Unfortunately I only started keeping stats at the end of last year. Since switching from a normal grip I have lost 3 shots off my handicap but that could be a result of a long list of things!



    Yeah that's true.
    I might stick one on for a practice round during the week and see how I feel about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,727 ✭✭✭Nozebleed


    I have a two thumb grip lying round if you want it..foreright.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 187 ✭✭peepee


    In regard to the weight do you mean you lose a bit of the feel on the club and have to adapt to your swing?

    The biggest The Fatso weighs 90g, about 30g heavier than a standard grip. Your putter head then feels lighter when you swing. 30g is a lot of lead strips.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭ForeRight


    Nozebleed I have access to one already but thanks for the offer. Appreciated.


    Peepee that's some weight difference alright I'd say it would take quite a while to adjust to judging the weight of the putts with that big boy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,238 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    I got one 3 days ago now - seems like an age :)

    I know it is absolutely a honeymoon period - but just needed something to shake me up a bit. It has worked. I had 9 1 putts today - at one stage 4 in a row - that is very unusual for me.

    So perhaps worth recording my initial reaction.
    It is another fad in a way - but an interesting one as it offers a new sensation in putting. I felt it was like getting a new putter in a way. It wouldn't surprise me if you see half the lads with one in a year or so.

    There is a very good golfer I know - and he got one - so was thinking , well if he felt it could solve an issue at the top level - it should do something for me. Only comment from them was that it makes the head feel too light and you would need to add weight to putter head - or it feels like a feather.

    They are outrageously expensive for what they are (30 to 40 euro) - a 50 cent piece of rubber. They are charging that, as they know people with putting issues are desperate.

    It kills the wrists - the funny thing is I'm fairly sure, that that was not an issue for me - it was taking putter outside line and the re-routing the putter back to the ball from outside line. .

    The fact it removes the wrists - it removes one variable when you are working on stroke.

    I can see it being a revelation for somebody that is missing puts due to wrists. But some putting strokes have wrist action. So not for all.

    The problem is - it tends to make head lighter - so if pace control was a strength - you are relearning you pace again. The 3 putts I had today were due to poor pace - so this will take time.

    The biggest thing I've noticed is how comfortable your hands are - much less tension - it is loosening the hands - tension is gone - it enable a far smother action - this then means for me - I have isolated my putting stroke to one thing - a good stroke - inside line.

    It looks awful and - if your game is about feel and face control , I feel you are removing something from your game. The feel of the stroke is the large grip. There almost seems like disconnect from putter head.

    Too big it won't fit in the dividers in your bag :D

    So not for everybody - but if you have reached a wall with your putting it is well worth a try. The new sensation alone - is enough to cause you become a subconscious sort of putter. This alone is an interesting idea - a new feeling is removing bad ideas in your head.

    Sadly - this is a factor with all new equipment - I was thinking today - maybe this crazy putter grip should be my new putting concentration.

    31 putts - 3 3 putts due to pace - but will get this bit right.
    At one stage was standing on a green saying - " I am a good putter :D"

    So very positive first feedback - will report back when the brain realises the trick I've played on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭Rippeditup


    I got one 2 days ago and like FixdePitchmark I am in a hooneymoon with it. I think the really comfortable/light grip is making a large difference as I must have been choking the old grip.

    With the pace mine has been awful as just getting back playing after a long break so no major difference here but the 6ft and in feel much easier (I have only played 6 holes and done 30 mins on the putting green)

    We will see what happens over time but so far I am liking it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,238 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Honeymoon over. :D

    Pulling left again - had 4 bad misses today - very bad, 3 foot and less.

    But long stuff very , very good.

    So a mixed bag. Stayed after and worked on pull. If I can just get that right. ;)

    still only had 32 putts - but more work needed - very early days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭the greatest game


    Have it a few months, use the " claw " grip also..

    I find it great,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭lowelife


    Have it a few months, use the " claw " grip also..

    I find it great,

    Everytime I hear this I can't help but think of Toy Story, I suppose I should now use it as a swing thought at least, clear the mind of other useless ****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭mike12


    If you are thinking of something different you should try a counter balanced putter as well i went from a fat grip to one and am liking it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,536 ✭✭✭Dolph Starbeam


    I've had mine since last summer, my putter is a Yes! Sophia so the putter head is pretty heavy so the extra weight of the grip didn't make much difference. I still find it very good inside 15 feet but some longer putts I find it hard to get the speed right. I would definitely recommend someone struggling to try it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 golfpimp


    Started using claw grip end of last yr and I must say it has improved my putting by 4 to 5 putts per round. Always considered myself a good putter ( handicap 8 ) so this yr im hoping for a great yr on the greens


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,647 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    lowelife wrote: »
    Everytime I hear this I can't help but think of Toy Story, I suppose I should now use it as a swing thought at least, clear the mind of other useless ****

    I've been using the "pulling short putts" thread as a thought before every short one. Helps lighten the mood and I just tell myself to make sure I don't slice it
    Takes away any nerves. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭Norfolk Enchants_


    golfpimp wrote: »
    Started using claw grip end of last yr and I must say it has improved my putting by 4 to 5 putts per round. Always considered myself a good putter ( handicap 8 ) so this yr im hoping for a great yr on the greens
    Always love to see guys on the 1st green in matchplay with unorthodox putting grips, you just know they have putting woes and are ready to crumble when put to the test.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 golfpimp


    Always love to see guys on the 1st green in matchplay with unorthodox putting grips, you just know they have putting woes and are ready to crumble when put to the test.

    Not when that unorthodox guy is rolling them in from everywhere ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 yifter83


    ForeRight wrote: »
    Has anyone got evidence of improvement with their stats using a standard grip compared to the fat grip?

    find the fat grip much heavier and as a result i feel that the putter has lost b lance..i have two same putters one with fat grip and the other with its original grip ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    yifter83 wrote: »
    find the fat grip much heavier and as a result i feel that the putter has lost b lance..i have two same putters one with fat grip and the other with its original grip ..

    I got a fat grip on a few years ago, hated it, head felt fair too light and no control. Was in a small pro shop yesterday and got talking about the fat grips. He gave me a 31' bladed putter with a medium fat grip, pick it up and swung a couple of putts, put it back down and told him it was completely wrong for me.

    Then he showed me how to use it property, grip it lightly!!! WOW the difference was huge and I finally seen why people like them. The head weight is back to normal because these grips are actually the same weight as many regularly grips but if you hold it firm then it feels like its a ton weight in the grip.

    Tried a few different sizes and bit the bullet and got a FATSO (i think the biggest) on my 2 ball. I've played 18 holes and about 30 minutes on the practice green and I wont say I'm in love but I can a benefit already, I have a nice pendulum swing but sometimes the wrists will come into play and pulling the putts was always my problem. The fatso makes it harder to twist while making the stroke.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 497 ✭✭Ernest Oreo


    golfpimp wrote: »
    Not when that unorthodox guy is rolling them in from everywhere ;)

    haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,238 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    4 years on of fat grips.

    How do people feel about them - got a new putter and thinking of keeping the thinner grip on as an experiment

    Do note the wrists coming into play more and i do pull more.

    Strange to go back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭Macker1


    Still happy using my Superstroke grip on the putter. I would imagine it would be quite strange to go back at this point. That said it all depends how well your putting in general.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,238 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Macker1 wrote: »
    Still happy using my Superstroke grip on the putter. I would imagine it would be quite strange to go back at this point. That said it all depends how well your putting in general.

    Yes - I suppose I've found a problem that didn't exist before.

    When you change putter these days - you are technically making two changes at once (putter and grip) and this is never clever in golf - or anything.

    I think I'm going to have to buy superstroke 3.0 and stick it on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ziggy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭backspin.


    I never really took to them. I much prefer a standard sized grip with a decent tacky feel. I think the standard sized odyssey putter grips are great.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,406 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Sick some pipe insulation over your existing normal grip and see if you like the feel, almost zero cost and weight added and easy to do/undo yourself in a couple of mins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭Irishdaywalker


    I got one 3 days ago now - seems like an age :)

    I know it is absolutely a honeymoon period - but just needed something to shake me up a bit. It has worked. I had 9 1 putts today - at one stage 4 in a row - that is very unusual for me.

    So perhaps worth recording my initial reaction.
    It is another fad in a way - but an interesting one as it offers a new sensation in putting. I felt it was like getting a new putter in a way. It wouldn't surprise me if you see half the lads with one in a year or so.

    There is a very good golfer I know - and he got one - so was thinking , well if he felt it could solve an issue at the top level - it should do something for me. Only comment from them was that it makes the head feel too light and you would need to add weight to putter head - or it feels like a feather.

    They are outrageously expensive for what they are (30 to 40 euro) - a 50 cent piece of rubber. They are charging that, as  they know people with putting issues are desperate.

    It kills the wrists - the funny thing is I'm fairly sure, that that was not an issue for me - it was taking putter outside line and the re-routing the putter back to the ball from outside line. .

    The fact it removes the wrists - it removes one variable when you are working on stroke.

    I can see it being a revelation for somebody that is missing puts due to wrists. But some putting strokes have wrist action. So not for all.

    The problem is - it tends to make head lighter - so if pace control was a strength - you are relearning you pace again. The 3 putts I had today were due to poor pace - so this will take time.

    The biggest thing I've noticed is how comfortable your hands are - much less tension - it is loosening the hands - tension is gone - it enable a far smother action - this then means for me - I have isolated my putting stroke to one thing - a good stroke - inside line.

    It looks awful and - if your game is about feel and face control , I feel you are removing something from your game. The feel of the stroke is the large grip. There almost seems like disconnect from putter head.

    Too big it won't fit in the dividers in your bag :D

    So not for everybody - but if you have reached a wall with your putting it is well worth a try. The new sensation alone - is enough to cause you become a subconscious sort of putter. This alone is an interesting idea - a new feeling is removing bad ideas in your head.

    Sadly - this is a factor with all new equipment - I was thinking today - maybe this crazy putter grip should be my new putting concentration.

    31 putts - 3 3 putts due to pace - but will get this bit right.
    At one stage was standing on a green saying - " I am a good putter :D"

    So very positive first feedback - will report back when the brain realises the trick I've played on it.
    I thought you said you had 91 putts today . . . I was nearly gonna say to give it up :):) . . . I had fat grip put onto mine (the slimmest fatso , if that makes sense) and I feel much more comfortable over the putts, I had a tendency to be wristy with some putts, and the new grip practically eliminated this !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Montgolfier


    4 years on of fat grips.

    How do people feel about them - got a new putter and thinking of keeping the thinner grip on as an experiment

    Do note the wrists coming into play more and i do pull more.

    Strange to go back.

    I had experimented with various grips on my Scotty fastback but all the messing about I felt the last grip was slightly off on alignment. I have since got an odyessy 7 with the standard lamkin grip. I studied videos on perfecting the reverse overlap grip and my putting has improved a lot. Distance control is much better.
    You can get bogged down in change, we all do it but it sets us back I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭frink


    I went from the standard grip to the fatso one and it worked for about a year. When I moved course I couldn't use it for long putts and was either leaving it short or going too long.

    Changed down to the flatso 1.0 and I love it now. Don't think I'd change back anytime soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,238 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    I'm finding the smaller grip an interesting change.

    I think above is an excellent point on some of the larger grips with a large flat surface - they are stuck on by hand and they are only as straight (perpendicular) as the eye of the pro or even lesser experienced lad in shop sticking it on.

    A few display putters I've looked at in shop do not look perfect - and when you put putter down the face is slightly off due to grip design.

    Could be in my head - but if you are putting a flat surface on a grip - there is a new risk with the alignment of it.

    I'm going to stick with smaller grip for a while.

    Finding it pulling a little and distance control not as good - but still all new.

    At the end of day - putting and birdie stats are all that matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    I'm finding the smaller grip an interesting change.

    I think above is an excellent point on some of the larger grips with a large flat surface - they are stuck on by hand and they are only as straight (perpendicular) as the eye of the pro or even lesser experienced lad in shop sticking it on.

    A few display putters I've looked at in shop do not look perfect - and when you put putter down the face is slightly off due to grip design.

    Could be in my head - but if you are putting a flat surface on a grip - there is a new risk with the alignment of it.

    I'm going to stick with smaller grip for a while.

    Finding it pulling a little and distance control not as good - but still all new.

    At the end of day - putting and birdie stats are all that matter.

    Exactly. They need to put on using a spirit level as even if they're a small bit off you will never putt correctly with it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,406 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Exactly. They need to put on using a spirit level as even if they're a small bit off you will never putt correctly with it.

    How is this different than a regular putter? (Which also has a flat front?)

    I often see regular putter grips that are misaligned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    GreeBo wrote: »
    How is this different than a regular putter? (Which also has a flat front?)

    I often see regular putter grips that are misaligned.

    Regular putter? I take it you mean the grip?

    Any of those grips that aren't on properly will cause problems with putting alignment but I'd argue the over size grips would be affected more by being fitted wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,406 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Regular putter? I take it you mean the grip?

    Any of those grips that aren't on properly will cause problems with putting alignment but I'd argue the over size grips would be affected more by being fitted wrong.

    Sorry yeah, I meant regular grip putter.

    Well if the grip is 5 degrees off then does it really matter the size of the grip?
    I'd argue no, and that its actually easier to align a larger grip since it should be more obvious to the naked eye that the larger flat surface isnt perpendicular to the face.

    But in either case, misaligned is misaligned, irrespective of the diameter of the grip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭bmay529


    Its a matter of preference. Some will like the touch/feel of a slim putter grip while many of us with a less than silky putting action will find a thicker grip quietens the hands. Paul Dunne, one of the best putters around, uses an extra large Superstroke 5.0 grip, placing both index fingers down the side of the grip and rocking his shoulders during the stroke to limit wrist break.

    If replacing one grip with another it is very important to ensure the weight of the new grip is similar to the one you are replacing if you want to retain a similar feel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Montgolfier


    Exactly. They need to put on using a spirit level as even if they're a small bit off you will never putt correctly with it.

    Here is a video I made that may help.

    https://youtu.be/1le74oHigRg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,238 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Here is a video I made that may help.

    https://youtu.be/1le74oHigRg

    great video and I feel it is slightly off.

    will have to test as shown


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