Lying on a cv

Whatsgonewrong

Do you think In our current employment crisis here in Ireland that lying on your cv Is a bad thing?

I,ll give a personal example.

I have recently lied on a cv In order to try to get an Interview with a restaurant, they wanted 2+ years as a waiter, I have none so I stuck down 6 months experience just for a chance with them or any other position I come across.

Anybody else out there prepared to lie?

Also the job bridge is a big reason why I have to lie as well...bollix of a thing !

PizzamanIRL

What if they ask for references? Then you're fecked.

Sir Arthur Daley

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

What if they ask for references? Then you're fecked.

Very easy forge a reference.

I lie by exaggerating certain experience, but never 'invent' experience. They'll know someone who has never waited on a table before.

For example, if i was a mechanic for 6 months, I might say i did it for a year or two if i needed to. But I wouldn't put it on my cv at all if i never did it in the first place, cos they'd cop you straight away. No one does something right the first time. You'll be seen through immediately.


With regards to references; stick down a business that's recently closed it's doors. Who are they gonna ring?!

orangesoda

anyone remember Jedi Jim in the apprentice?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NclVgT5sH2I

He used to give talks at our school about cv's and he used to preach about how you should never lie on them. i never listened to Jim

The Backwards Man

It's better to exaggerate the truth than fabricate the lie.

This comes from a wise old bovine waste management specialist.

Sir Arthur Daley

The Backwards Man wrote: »

This comes from a wise old bovine waste management specialist.

He is only talking trash.

Millicent

Deleted User wrote: »

I lie by exaggerating certain experience, but never 'invent' experience. They'll know someone who has never waited on a table before.

For example, if i was a mechanic for 6 months, I might say i did it for a year or two if i needed to. But I wouldn't put it on my cv at all if i never did it in the first place, cos they'd cop you straight away. No one does something right the first time. You'll be seen through immediately.


With regards to references; stick down a business that's recently closed it's doors. Who are they gonna ring?!

You'd be surprised, especially in a small town, as to who knows whom.

But yeah, agree with the first part. If you're gonna lie about experience, don't do it about something you actually have no experience in. You'll be caught out fairly rapidly.

Sam Kade

WikiHow wrote: »

Very easy forge a reference.

What if they ring for a reference?

soap1978

The Backwards Man wrote: »

It's better to exaggerate the truth than fabricate the lie.

This comes from a wise old bovine waste management specialist.

you are talking ****e

BraziliaNZ

Done it loads of times. Also given fake references for people for pretty prestigious jobs. If you can talk the talk and you're knowledgeable in your field you can really get away with a lot of this stuff when it comes to recruitment. They tend to not give a toss about your education once you get to a certain level, they just take it for granted (little do they know sometimes though hehe).

Sir Arthur Daley

Sam Kade wrote: »

What if they ring for a reference?

Very easy to put on an accent.

The Backwards Man

soap1978 wrote: »

you are talking ****e

It's manure.

Hollister11

Sam Kade wrote: »

What if they ring for a reference?

Ask a friend, sibling parent ect to lie.
Not hard.

Yea he/she worked here for .... Brilliant but had to yet go as business folded simple.

Ishmael

When applying for certain jobs, you might get away with it depending on how competent the person interviewing is and how quickly they need someone. You would get found out very quickly though if you lied when applying for any kind of skilled work.

Ruu

Who knew they would check up on my job with NASA?!?! Foiled again! :mad:

The Backwards Man

Ruubot2 wrote: »

Who knew they would check up on my job with NASA?!?! Foiled again! :mad:

Could you not get a friend to pretend to be NASA?

Mint Aero

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Could you not get a friend to pretend to be NASA?

Hello? Yes I'm NASA. Ruubot? Yeah he was good at the space rockets so he was, bit of a rocket scientist if you ask me.

Yeah it's easy enough.

con___manx1

The Backwards Man wrote: »

It's better to exaggerate the truth than fabricate the lie.

This comes from a wise old bovine waste management specialist.

one of my friends got a job with a large multi national company by lieing at an interview and faking a reference.it worked a charm and he is still there after 6 months doing great.its the only way to get around, its not what you no, but who you no scenario.

Sir Arthur Daley

con___manx1 wrote: »

its not what you no, but who you no scenario.

You have hit the nail on the head with that post.

Ruu

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Could you not get a friend to pretend to be NASA?

Tis a lonely life as a moderator. ;_;

Whatsgonewrong

If its an ol minimum wage job then who cares, you'd learn the ropes in no time. Its nonsens some of the experience you need to work In cafes etc.

As for references I have a dutch mobile number so I have on my cv I worked In Amsterdam. That won't be traced. Anyway I have no problem lying If It means im trying to better my life. I wouldn't be content on the dole saying 'no jobs' everytime Im asked If Im looking for work

myshirt

What about lying about getting a 2.1 degree?

Often you see the requirement to have attained a certain degree level follow you into the first five years of your career.

I once had to refuse a guy a second interview to meet the boss because HR pulled our budget when they seen the chap hadn't a 2.1.
I liked the guy. I wanted to give him a shot. Good commercial awareness. Good attitude. Enthusiastic learner. And his degree was 5 years ago. Jesus.

But nope, got a pasting for even bringing him in. Funny thing is, they wouldn't have even audited his CV if we employed him.

Sir Arthur Daley

myshirt wrote: »

What about lying about getting a 2.1 degree?

I know a guy that can sort one of those out.

sammyjo90

I used to own a sandwhich shop in a small town in the back arse of galway that coincidentally my best friend worked in...got her a job though and they never even rang me!

orangesoda

i was rejected from applying to a bbc internship as i got a 2:2 instead of a 2:1, the annoying think was that i had a good amount of experience which is crucial in the industry

pharmaton

When I tell the truth it gets questioned like I've just told the biggest porky. But no I couldn't be arsed.

Stavros Murphy

I've only noticed recently that people are actually following up on checking peoples references - which I reckon in the Bume times never happened much. You'd get asked maybe once a year, tops.Two lads who worked for me ages ago gave me as a reference and both prospective employers sent letters asking for facts and figures last week. Which was a bleedin effort as one wanted to know everything down to how often they had used the jax.

Lazy me wanted to go "yeah, they were absolute dreams blah blah", Cnuty me wanted to go "why do you think they don't work here anymore Sherlock?" and actual me bunged them over to the missus who did the decent thing and said they were dotes. Can't say I've ever even looked for a reference tbh, sure after a days trial you know if they're a spoofer or not, but then we don't exactly do rocket science..

B.A._Baracus

I once lied on my cv to a get a retail job. Burned my bridge with my last employer and was unemployed for a few months. I thought I didnt have any chance of getting a job so I lied and said I worked for another retail company (a genuine retail outlet) and said I was working there for over a year..... I was one phone call from being caught out after the interview.... 1 tiny little reference check would have blown it all in my face....

... But I got the job :pac: I still laugh to this day. Like, yeah I know it was only a mickey mouse retail job but even the same mickey mouse retail jobs check references like crazy today (employers market)

I always laugh when I look back.

Mint Aero

I was caught lying on my cv once. Interviewer told me to get up off it.

Sam Kade

WikiHow wrote: »

Very easy to put on an accent.

Hollister11 wrote: »

Ask a friend, sibling parent ect to lie.
Not hard.

Yea he/she worked here for .... Brilliant but had to yet go as business folded simple.

Employers aren't that stupid they asked where you worked get the number of the place in their own time and ring for a reference.

CrazyRabbit

So am I the only one who hasn't lied or exaggerated on their CV? In fact, I've left some stuff off so that the CV doesn't get too large.

I am tempted do so though. Every job I applied for has crazy requirements. I sincerely doubt they'll find anyone with all the qualifications/requirements met. I hope I just check enough of the boxes to get an interview.

tomwaterford

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

So am I the only one who hasn't lied or exaggerated on their CV? In fact, I've left some stuff off so that the CV doesn't get too large.

I am tempted do so though. Every job I applied for has crazy requirements. I sincerely doubt they'll find anyone with all the qualifications/requirements met. I hope I just check enough of the boxes to get an interview.

more or less what I do as well

Kenny Logins

Have you ever looked at Linkedin? It's a whole site dedicated to it.

Stavros Murphy

I'm unemployable so I've never had a cv to lie on. I'm feelin left out. I've never had an interview either. I've spent most of my adult life trying to get out of doing stuff and failing miserably. For a lazy sod, I always seem to get lumbered with hard work.

Happyman42

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

Done it loads of times.

There's a certain irony in that.

B.A._Baracus

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

So am I the only one who hasn't lied or exaggerated on their CV? In fact, I've left some stuff off so that the CV doesn't get too large.

I am tempted do so though. Every job I applied for has crazy requirements. I sincerely doubt they'll find anyone with all the qualifications/requirements met. I hope I just check enough of the boxes to get an interview.

Being honest, I am unemployed right now and I am thinking of going back to the my early 20s mentality of just throwing blatant lies on my cv

Like, i've done the whole honesty thing in recent times but its hard to get an interview, let alone a job and with all these internships in place you cannot blame anyone.

OneArt

Two years experience as a f*cking waiter?

Two months is enough. I don't understand why restaurants in Ireland always seem to ask for it.

tomwaterford

OneArt wrote: »

Two years experience as a f*cking waiter?

Two months is enough. I don't understand why restaurants in Ireland always seem to ask for it.

im just surprised it's not an internship is all

Holsten

Yeah I'd lie no bother.

If it was between the dole and lying, I'll be telling porkies till the cows come home.

Micky Dolenz

I lied once on a cv. I said I liked to swim, I don't really. It's good exercise but I don't think I enjoy it.

Oranage2

Lied on one for my first job, it was for a supermarket so I put down I worked in a small corner shop and put my aunt down as the reference.

Tasden

orangesoda wrote: »

i was rejected from applying to a bbc internship as i got a 2:2 instead of a 2:1, the annoying think was that i had a good amount of experience which is crucial in the industry

I'm the opposite, have the 2.1 and other certs or whatnot but not the experience, and I think its more important to have relevant experience rather than the right grades in most jobs. I'd employ the person with more experience anyway.

B.A._Baracus

I have actually spent the last couple of minutes thinking of ways to lie on my cv :pac: (am being genuinely serious here lol)

Like in this day and age it is an employers market and you will be called out for a reference. Question is what company do you say?

You could turn around and say you worked for a company that went belly up with recession. But then that negates the whole reference part. As there would be no person to ring. On the flipside, if you chance your arm and say you worked for "xyz company" you are only a phone call or email away from getting caught out.

Holsten

Boss/manager/team have all moved on.

Company went under.

Give friends number.

"Yeah Frank worked here alright, most professional employee I've ever had" etc..

extra gravy

OneArt wrote: »

Two years experience as a f*cking waiter?

Two months is enough. I don't understand why restaurants in Ireland always seem to ask for it.

They ask for it because it's very easy to tell the difference between someone with two months experience and two years. Two years + experience gives you a confident, competent and knowledgeable waiter who can provide excellent customer service...2 months generally does not.

Whatsgonewrong

extra gravy wrote: »

They ask for it because it's very easy to tell the difference between someone with two months experience and two years. Two years + experience gives you a confident, competent and knowledgeable waiter who can provide excellent customer service...6 months generally does not.

But the problem Is nowadays the younger generation etc wont get the chance to get experience because they will be overlooked. I myself am 22 and In college, college Is a big factor why I haven't been employed also unfortunately.

risteard7

Sure at interviews all people do is lie.
You have to make up a load of lies on "why you would love to work for the company"

when in reality I couldn't give a toss about the company, I just need the money

Fred Swanson

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B.A._Baracus

I have given fake references. Like giving an actual company that went bust (who I never really worked for) and give the "mobile number of my former manager" .... But it just doesnt work these days. Its crazy.

As I say its an employers market and they want proof (or should I use commas for "proof" lol) that you've done the job. its almost like the current reference is the deal sealer.

Mr. CooL ICE

I lied about my interests. Although I am active, I like running and the gym, but always state team sports on my CV for the whole 'team worker' crap.

Aside from that, I'd be afraid to lie for fear of being caught out.