Maynooth traffic morning

purplecow1977

Second morning in a row traffic into Maynooth is mental. Is it the slow lights? Im only 2 minutes later than normal and haven't met this sort of traffic in the last 6 months :-( Takes a full hour to get to work now

Moonbeam

purplecow1977 wrote: »

Second morning in a row traffic into Maynooth is mental. Is it the slow lights? Im only 2 minutes later than normal and haven't met this sort of traffic in the last 6 months :-( Takes a full hour to get to work now

Took me 15 minutes from Maxol to the girls school end of the main street this morning , not incl getting out of my estate . AGH

wirelessdude01

Moonbeam wrote: »

Took me 15 minutes from Maxol to the girls school end of the main street this morning , not incl getting out of my estate . AGH

Did they change the sequence of the lights at BOI again for people turning right coming in from the motorway??

Moonbeam

no idea,
The left filter lane there is way easier to get through then the right but never noticed a difference it was 3 changes before I got through,probably more but when they were in view!

purplecow1977

Is there any way that taking the left lane will get me on the Dunboyne road?

Moonbeam

Traffic on The Straffan Road is a permanent disaster.
Where do you drive from?
The motorway?
There is an alternate way to get to the Dunboyne road and come out past Tesco,it is longer but no traffic.

Staplor

You can turn right at Maxol, go passed the schools, take the left go straight, brings you out at the main entrance to Carton.

purplecow1977

Moonbeam wrote: »

Traffic on The Straffan Road is a permanent disaster.
Where do you drive from?
The motorway?
There is an alternate way to get to the Dunboyne road and come out past Tesco,it is longer but no traffic.

The train station!
I used to fly through but the last 2 mornings....
I might try to leave 5 minutes earlier tomorrow & see.

Moonbeam

The girls school was off last week so traffic was a lot easier.
I leave between 8:20 and 8:35 and if you can do it later then do as it eases off a bit and before 8 it is also a bit better.

lordgoat

purplecow1977 wrote: »

Is there any way that taking the left lane will get me on the Dunboyne road?

You can cut through one of the lanes off main st and take a right and this brings you out on the Dun Boyne road, just past the school.

purplecow1977

Moonbeam wrote: »

The girls school was off last week so traffic was a lot easier.
I leave between 8:20 and 8:35 and if you can do it later then do as it eases off a bit and before 8 it is also a bit better.

I have to be gone by 8.05
Will aim for 8 today and see if it makes a difference
An hour just seems so much longer than my normal 50 minutes! :-P

purplecow1977

lordgoat wrote: »

You can cut through one of the lanes off main st and take a right and this brings you out on the Dun Boyne road, just past the school.

I guessed this but wanted to try it in evening first,to be sure,thanks

Moonbeam

How did you find it today ? I left stupidly late and it was chaos .

Hercule

there is a major issue with people letting every vehicle in - the lights change so quickly that it can often mean a whole lights change can occur without any progress, there is something very wrong with the junction on main street and something needs to be done - Whenever possible I usually boot down the road past olympic motors/SAP landscapes and then go through and over the railway bridge - the problem is that road is in a permanent state chaos due to muck/roadworks/ice/tractors - likewise the road around the side of the Moyglare road is far too narrow.

purplecow1977

Moonbeam wrote: »

How did you find it today ? I left stupidly late and it was chaos .

I left just after 8 and traffic was starting to build up from Super Valu. By the time I got about 4 from the top for the lights, when I checked my rearview mirror I could see that traffic was already back up over the hill past SV. It seems that leaving it after 8.05 I'll get stuck so I'll have to make sure I'm gone before that. I counted today though and only 4 cars got through the lights for turning right. Add a slow mover at the top and you're fecked.

purplecow1977

Damn,missed that 3 minute window again. Stuck. :-(

Dublin bus are now going up the left lane and indicating at top to move in.

Staplor

Fantastic, so Dublin Bus, who cause the traffic to back up by not pulling into a bus stop, now skip past a load of cars that are held up, so they can be held up more??? Doesn't make sense to me, that bus stop on Main St. outside Londis is a pure disaster, they should either move it or else, make it bigger so a bus can actually pull in.

I'm sure people will mention people parking in the bus stop, but that's an issue for parking enforcement. Can the Gardaí still issue parking fines? Because if they could I reckon they could clean up around Maynooth. And sure why not let a few Garda reserves do it?

lordgoat

Staplor wrote: »

Fantastic, so Dublin Bus, who cause the traffic to back up by not pulling into a bus stop, now skip past a load of cars that are held up, so they can be held up more??? Doesn't make sense to me, that bus stop on Main St. outside Londis is a pure disaster, they should either move it or else, make it bigger so a bus can actually pull in.

I'm sure people will mention people parking in the bus stop, but that's an issue for parking enforcement. Can the Gardaí still issue parking fines? Because if they could I reckon they could clean up around Maynooth. And sure why not let a few Garda reserves do it?

Parking in maynooth is hilarious. I particularly loved the dickhead yesterday that stopped outside the girls school to wait for his child to try and cross a lane of moving traffic - the traffic was able to move as Daddy was blocking all the cars behind him.

Ignorance is alive and well.

Moonbeam

Parking enforcement is non existent.
Beside the band hall building there is a yellow box junction at the entrance to a little park,it can be used as a more scenic way to get to the Dunboyne Road and people are always parking in it so it is impossible to get a buggy in or out of the park,I used to take pictures of the cars blocking it but I gave up as I knew I was never actually going to complain about them.
There is a parking issue in the town but the old tesco Car Park or DUnnes are never full so I don't understand why people feel the need to park anywhere and everywhere.

Rathkenny

purplecow1977 wrote: »

Dublin bus are now going up the left lane and indicating at top to move in.

I saw the airport hopper do the same thing this week. Very frustrating.

wirelessdude01

purplecow1977 wrote: »

Damn,missed that 3 minute window again. Stuck. :-(

Dublin bus are now going up the left lane and indicating at top to move in.

If no one lets them in then they will be blocking ALL traffic going left. Time to take things into our own hands in relation to this.

L1011

Something I've noticed at the other end of the town is that Maxol being gone has an appreciable impact on motorway direction movements (turning left out and right in) at the Greenfield shops. Maxol had a lot of traffic coming out closer to the Celbridge Road junction where it could get in to slower moving cars, and then hold them up leaving gaps that traffic out of Greenfield used. Now that doesn't happen.

Redsoxfan

Other than a change in the timing of the lights, what else might be affecting traffic in the mornings?

Any chance the 'safety measures' at the girls school/end of Carton Avenue be affecting the flow of traffic? Less space to pull in, so people just stop where they feel like it?

purplecow1977

To be honest, that wouldn't affect the stream of traffic flowing in the Straffan road.
It has to be he lights, coupled with a slow driver or two turning right.
It's v annoying though with people swanning up the left and indicating, I certainly wouldn't let him in but unfortunately I didn't have a chance to deny him! Cars will end up starting that crack as well.

Moonbeam

MYOB wrote: »

Something I've noticed at the other end of the town is that Maxol being gone has an appreciable impact on motorway direction movements (turning left out and right in) at the Greenfield shops. Maxol had a lot of traffic coming out closer to the Celbridge Road junction where it could get in to slower moving cars, and then hold them up leaving gaps that traffic out of Greenfield used. Now that doesn't happen.

I never thought of that but I don't think it has much of an impact,the only way to get out from that junction is when the traffic is backed up and idiots do not pull in to the yellow box junction as they tend to do. It depends on the traffic lights at both sides too.
My record wait to get out there is 20 minutes due to people not abiding by the yellow box. My poor kids are experts on yellow box junctions.

Nino Brown

lordgoat wrote: »

You can cut through one of the lanes off main st and take a right and this brings you out on the Dun Boyne road, just past the school.

But when the filter light is green to go left, so is the filter light for traffic coming from the roost direction to turn right. So if you try that you hold up the whole left lane.

lordgoat

Nino Brown wrote: »

But when the filter light is green to go left, so is the filter light for traffic coming from the roost direction to turn right. So if you try that you hold up the whole left lane.

This is incorrect. There's a good 30seconds where the cars coming from the roost are on red.

Plus if you're a good driver you can position your car to allow cars to turn left and get past you while waiting for a gap in the traffic. I've seen many people do this for years.

martybike

Sounds like Maynooth could do with another set of traffic lights. KCC reckons you can never have enough traffic lights!

lordgoat

martybike wrote: »

Sounds like Maynooth could do with another set of traffic lights. KCC reckons you can never have enough traffic lights!

Ask and you shall receive. Another pointless set of pedestrian lights on the way to tesco, ready to be unveiled. Hurrah

Moonbeam

No they won't put traffic lights at the junction before Maxol because there are too many on the Straffan Road already.

I am beginning to wonder how many fender benders and accidents a week happen on The Straffan Road,there was an accident this morning with fire engines and ambulances which is more serious then normal but we have gone through weeks where I have seen a minor accident a day out there.

purplecow1977

Ironically, I was earlier this morning and got to Supervalu with lights at top of road green and I managed to get through at a normal speed. It seems ironic that the less traffic = longer lights, more traffic = lights that change after 4 cars! I came across an accident with fire engines & ambulance also today, not on Straffan rd though

L1011

Moonbeam wrote: »

No they won't put traffic lights at the junction before Maxol because there are too many on the Straffan Road already.

They've suggested putting lights at the Meadowbrook Link and again at Kingsbry already...

gman2k

I have to laugh when I hear about people in traffic complaining about the traffic.
You are part of the problem unfortunately - YOU are the traffic.
The policy of the planners is not to make things easier for motorists who wish to make 1 mile journeys by car.....
The quickest way for Maynooth residents to get into Maynooth is by bicycle or walk.

Moonbeam

gman2k wrote: »

I have to laugh when I hear about people in traffic complaining about the traffic.
You are part of the problem unfortunately - YOU are the traffic.
The policy of the planners is not to make things easier for motorists who wish to make 1 mile journeys by car.....
The quickest way for Maynooth residents to get into Maynooth is by bicycle or walk.

I don't think anyone is arguing that the problem is you need to get through Maynooth to get to other places .

Staplor

Where's that damn link road?

Also wasn't there talk of a new motorway exit out the Rathcoffey side of the town, 2 exits would be great, you could take the college traffic out of the town totally, I suppose like what Leixlip has.

L1011

Staplor wrote: »

Where's that damn link road?

Also wasn't there talk of a new motorway exit out the Rathcoffey side of the town, 2 exits would be great, you could take the college traffic out of the town totally, I suppose like what Leixlip has.

The talk was of it outright replacing the existing exit though. Would be too close otherwise.

Ringroad was first promised before I was born!

lordgoat

Staplor wrote: »

Where's that damn link road?

Also wasn't there talk of a new motorway exit out the Rathcoffey side of the town, 2 exits would be great, you could take the college traffic out of the town totally, I suppose like what Leixlip has.

One of those is 100% because of Intel though right? Or are there 2 leixlip's and the intel. Wow i really need to pay more attention!

I think the main problem with Maynooth is, those places that are heavy traffic draws (school/college/tesco/even mass) means you have to go through the town more often than not. If that new school goes in... there will be some fun in the town on a wet morning around 8:30.

purplecow1977

gman2k wrote: »

I have to laugh when I hear about people in traffic complaining about the traffic.
You are part of the problem unfortunately - YOU are the traffic.
The policy of the planners is not to make things easier for motorists who wish to make 1 mile journeys by car.....
The quickest way for Maynooth residents to get into Maynooth is by bicycle or walk.

what a fabulous insight! I work in Drogheda,what do you suggest?:-)

HonalD

purplecow1977 wrote: »

what a fabulous insight! I work in Drogheda,what do you suggest?:-)

I'm confused, if you are working in Drogheda why do you need to use the Straffan Road towards Maynooth?

Maybe I'm missing something?

Moonbeam

I presume he goes through DUnboyne too?

purplecow1977

Moonbeam wrote: »

I presume he goes through DUnboyne too?

She does.
Motorway traffic is even worse,and frequent incidents on M4. Was often held up at slip road!
So I go back roads. Quicker. And a few kms shorter.

HonalD

purplecow1977 wrote: »

She does.
Motorway traffic is even worse,and frequent incidents on M4. Was often held up at slip road!
So I go back roads. Quicker. And a few kms shorter.

So the post from gman2k is also specifically relevant to you. The National Road Network has been developed to be used by National Traffic, in your case along the N4, M50 and M1 I would think.

but it's a free world and you have exercised your right to travel along Local Roads to your destination.

So you are definitely part of and contributing to the local traffic problem in Maynooth. So I can't see how you can justify calling gman2k's accurate comments as being a "fabulous insight".

But again, maybe I'm missing something?

purplecow1977

HonalD wrote: »

So the post from gman2k is also specifically relevant to you. The National Road Network has been developed to be used by National Traffic, in your case along the N4, M50 and M1 I would think.

but it's a free world and you have exercised your right to travel along Local Roads to your destination.

So you are definitely part of and contributing to the local traffic problem in Maynooth. So I can't see how you can justify calling gman2k's accurate comments as being a "fabulous insight".

But again, maybe I'm missing something?

Jesus, what the hell is that post about? The N4, M50 and M1 is not a route that works for me. I travelled it once or twice a week from Maynooth before I actually moved to Maynooth and it took a full hour to get to work, with delays frequent on the off ramp particularly on wet or frosty days. Majority of traffic is travelling against me on the Dunboyne route so I find it more.... therapeutic! Roads are obviously not as good though and a 50km trip averages out as about 65km an hour (which is definitely not my preferred speed!)

His post wasn't very helpful. The problem isn't JUST getting INTO Maynooth and it certainly wasn't the reason I set the thread up. It's getting THROUGH it and his suggestion of walking or cycling was a bit ignorant in my opinion, particularly for the distance that I have to cover.

My reply to him was sarcasm. In hindsight, I should just ignore people who post idiotic comments.

HonalD

purplecow1977 wrote: »

Jesus, what the hell is that post about? The N4, M50 and M1 is not a route that works for me. I travelled it once or twice a week from Maynooth before I actually moved to Maynooth and it took a full hour to get to work, with delays frequent on the off ramp particularly on wet or frosty days. Majority of traffic is travelling against me on the Dunboyne route so I find it more.... therapeutic! Roads are obviously not as good though and a 50km trip averages out as about 65km an hour (which is definitely not my preferred speed!)

His post wasn't very helpful. The problem isn't JUST getting INTO Maynooth and it certainly wasn't the reason I set the thread up. It's getting THROUGH it and his suggestion of walking or cycling was a bit ignorant in my opinion, particularly for the distance that I have to cover.

My reply to him was sarcasm. In hindsight, I should just ignore people who post idiotic comments.

You've said that it takes an hour to get to work on the National Road Network but you can rat-run across the back roads at 65kph for a 50 km trip, looks like a similar journey time, perhaps max 10 min shorter.

However, your choice adds to traffic in Maynooth Town and if everybody who works off the M1 north of Fingal chooses to drive through urban areas rather than purpose built motorways, well maybe you live in a glasshouse (that was sarcasm).:)

I don't know when you last drove from Maynooth to Dundalk on the motorways but they are safer than any other type of road and with the free flow junction from N4 onto M50, I can't understand why you think it is slower to use?

purplecow1977

HonalD wrote: »

You've said that it takes an hour to get to work on the National Road Network but you can rat-run across the back roads at 65kph for a 50 km trip, looks like a similar journey time, perhaps max 10 min shorter.

However, your choice adds to traffic in Maynooth Town and if everybody who works off the M1 north of Fingal chooses to drive through urban areas rather than purpose built motorways, well maybe you live in a glasshouse (that was sarcasm).:)

I don't know when you last drove from Maynooth to Dundalk on the motorways but they are safer than any other type of road and with the free flow junction from N4 onto M50, I can't understand why you think it is slower to use?

More traffic. More tolls. More petrol. More expense.

Slip road from Maynooth ONTO M4 can be slow with delays due to frost, poor driving conditions or regular incidents and it could be after 8.30 before I'd even be on the M50.

I prefer to go backroads, I have said already, I find it more relaxing. Because of less traffic (after Maynooth!!) but roads are obviously not in the same condition as the motorways.

Why do you seem to intent on trying to send me via N4?! I drive cross country & don't think there should be an issue with that. I don't think my issue per sé is with the traffic, as it's not the traffic's fault, but with the lights at the T junction which only allow 3/4 cars to turn right at a busy time of the morning, resulting in back ups and left lane blockages.

Comprendez?

Oh and 10 minutes shorter helps! That's almost 1 hour per week! Not to mention the return journey :-) I know how busy things can get on the M50/Lucan area junction and prefer to avoid that!

wirelessdude01

HonalD wrote: »

You've said that it takes an hour to get to work on the National Road Network but you can rat-run across the back roads at 65kph for a 50 km trip, looks like a similar journey time, perhaps max 10 min shorter.

However, your choice adds to traffic in Maynooth Town and if everybody who works off the M1 north of Fingal chooses to drive through urban areas rather than purpose built motorways, well maybe you live in a glasshouse (that was sarcasm).:)

I don't know when you last drove from Maynooth to Dundalk on the motorways but they are safer than any other type of road and with the free flow junction from N4 onto M50, I can't understand why you think it is slower to use?

You obviously don't use the M4/50 all that often or have never been caught in a traffic accident that causes you to be anything up to 2hours late for work. I HAVE and can sympathise with the OP. YOU are taking the topic off on a tangent which is unhelpful.

wirelessdude01

purplecow1977 wrote: »

More traffic. More tolls. More petrol. More expense.

Slip road from Maynooth ONTO M4 can be slow with delays due to frost, poor driving conditions or regular incidents and it could be after 8.30 before I'd even be on the M50.

I prefer to go backroads, I have said already, I find it more relaxing. Because of less traffic (after Maynooth!!) but roads are obviously not in the same condition as the motorways.

Why do you seem to intent on trying to send me via N4?! I drive cross country & don't think there should be an issue with that. I don't think my issue per sé is with the traffic, as it's not the traffic's fault, but with the lights at the T junction which only allow 3/4 cars to turn right at a busy time of the morning, resulting in back ups and left lane blockages.

Comprendez?

Oh and 10 minutes shorter helps! That's almost 1 hour per week! Not to mention the return journey :-) I know how busy things can get on the M50/Lucan area junction and prefer to avoid that!

Plus the approx 25e per week in toll fees that you save

HonalD

Ok, as I alluded to its a free country so anyone can drive whatever route they choose.

but if one is delayed by traffic through Maynooth Town and their destination is 50km or more away, then I think the moral high ground is lost.

As was stated, your trip contributes to traffic congestion, and needlessly so, I'd expect to be considered from anyone who is delayed getting to their destination in the Town.

Let's look at a parallel situation, if a driver who doesn't like motorways but wants to get to Dublin Airport from Maynooth, being delayed at a set of traffic lights is hardly the most pressing issue. Your trip is similar and I'm afraid the other poster gman? Is correct, your trip contributes to the congestion in Maynooth, plain and simple.

But let's leave it there, we live in a democracy thankfully and if we were all the same life would be boring.

Enjoy the rest of the weekend...and drive safely.

HonalD

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

You obviously don't use the M4/50 all that often or have never been caught in a traffic accident that causes you to be anything up to 2hours late for work. I HAVE and can sympathise with the OP. YOU are taking the topic off on a tangent which is unhelpful.

Wireless dude I'm only pointing out that 1 trip through Maynooth in the morning, is contributing to the congestion we all have to endure.

I don't have a problem with the OP's comments, only that the trip contributes to congestion and waiting 5 minutes at a set of lights doesn't seem critical for a communt to Dundalk.

And if anyone can find definite information that it takes longer than using the National Road Network, I'd welcome that.

purplecow1977

HonalD wrote: »

Ok, as I alluded to its a free country so anyone can drive whatever route they choose.

but if one is delayed by traffic through Maynooth Town and their destination is 50km or more away, then I think the moral high ground is lost.

As was stated, your trip contributes to traffic congestion, and needlessly so, I'd expect to be considered from anyone who is delayed getting to their destination in the Town.

Let's look at a parallel situation, if a driver who doesn't like motorways but wants to get to Dublin Airport from Maynooth, being delayed at a set of traffic lights is hardly the most pressing issue. Your trip is similar and I'm afraid the other poster gman? Is correct, your trip contributes to the congestion in Maynooth, plain and simple.

But let's leave it there, we live in a democracy thankfully and if we were all the same life would be boring.

Enjoy the rest of the weekend...and drive safely.

of course I contribute,never denied that. If lights stayed green longer,there wouldn't be a back up and traffic could move more freely!

Thankfully,once it gets to the weekend,I don't use the car,if at all :-) Dodgy tummy more of a concern tonight!:-)

purplecow1977

HonalD wrote: »

Ok, as I alluded to its a free country so anyone can drive whatever route they choose.

but if one is delayed by traffic through Maynooth Town and their destination is 50km or more away, then I think the moral high ground is lost.

As was stated, your trip contributes to traffic congestion, and needlessly so, I'd expect to be considered from anyone who is delayed getting to their destination in the Town.

Let's look at a parallel situation, if a driver who doesn't like motorways but wants to get to Dublin Airport from Maynooth, being delayed at a set of traffic lights is hardly the most pressing issue. Your trip is similar and I'm afraid the other poster gman? Is correct, your trip contributes to the congestion in Maynooth, plain and simple.

But let's leave it there, we live in a democracy thankfully and if we were all the same life would be boring.

Enjoy the rest of the weekend...and drive safely.

of course I contribute,never denied that. If lights stayed green longer,there wouldn't be a back up and traffic could move more freely!

Thankfully,once it gets to the weekend,I don't use the car,if at all :-) Dodgy tummy more of a concern tonight!:-)