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Selling car on DoneDeal

  • 20-03-2014 10:52pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭


    Hi all,

    I currently have a car for sale on DoneDeal. Keenly priced, in good shape, decent car for the money.
    Car is due in for NCT tomorrow (Friday) which I will bring it to and if it fails I will fix anything and get it retested.
    Have had a few calls. Most said they would call back after Friday (this will give it a NCT until May 2015).

    However I have had 2 calls, both of which asked first off "whats your best price". To which I reply that the price on the ad (€1500) is the price I am looking for but am open to negotiations. Why dont you come and see it and we can take it from there.

    Both callers proceeded to offer me money over the phone to come and take it away the next day for €1000 cash. Both offers I accepted in principle and come down and take it away pre NCT for a grand. I would be ok with that.

    Neither turned up then. The second today asked could I meet him half way (coming from Clare). I was in work so couldnt but did say I would meet him in Cork City. Told him to ring when he got here.
    This guy rang me last night and I missed the call. He then rang me back this morning. From that would take it he was interested. No show then today.

    Am I missing a scam or what is going on? I cant think of any scam they could pull.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,545 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Don't leave your house. If they're serious, they'll come to you.
    The country is full of messers who will bid on stuff to see what you'd sell for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,547 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Don't entertain any offers over the phone from anyone. Tell them the car is for sale and they can come look at it if they are interested and that you will not accept any offers prior to inspection nor keep it for anyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    Those boys are what's known as "fcuking timewasters". Slightly less annoying than test pilots, who do turn up but have no money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭hallo dare


    Never meet them at your house, always go to a neutral place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    What kind of car is it? and whats the price if you don't mind me asking :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,481 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    The world is full of idol fools i'm afraid, with unlimited calls or texts and access to donedeal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭monkeysnapper


    My heart goes out to you op , been there a few times and had all the idiots , the same as you, plus like previous person said , test pilots , one old guy decided to slam on the breaks on a main road with cars behind narrowly causing a accident. Another guy rocking car violently forwards and backwards with clutch until I asked him to get out of car.
    I totally agree, they come to you...end of!!!



    Another one is the " will you keep car for me for couple of weeks till I sell my car" by text ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭christy02


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    What kind of car is it? and whats the price if you don't mind me asking :)

    Avensis diesel 02. Looking for 1595. A lot for sale 2k plus. Tbh would take a grand but will not let it go for less. Been my family car for 3 years but time for a change.

    Just can't understand why they would bother. I have rang about a few myself but never mention cash on the phone.

    06/07 Honda accord diesel if anyone is selling a clean one give me a shout. Exec model if possible with leather, cruise etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon


    DoneDeal is a minefield of scammers and timewasting muppets...thread carefully


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭christy02


    My heart goes out to you op , been there a few times and had all the idiots , the same as you, plus like previous person said , test pilots , one old guy decided to slam on the breaks on a main road with cars behind narrowly causing a accident. Another guy rocking car violently forwards and backwards with clutch until I asked him to get out of car.
    I totally agree, they come to you...end of!!!



    Another one is the " will you keep car for me for couple of weeks till I sell my car" by text ,

    Sorry no!!!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭christy02


    MayoSalmon wrote: »
    DoneDeal is a minefield of scammers and timewasting muppets...thread carefully

    Agreed. But last couple of cars bought on DD with no issues. Got to keep wits about you. A lit of the time you have got to use first instincts. If in doubt. Walk away


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭monkeysnapper


    I think I seen your car, I think a grand or little over will be what you will prob get if you tough it out, if its the one that has 220k miles you really had your money's worth out of the girl, fair play to you :0)

    With high tax , miles year your going to find it tough getting 1500

    Good luck christy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭christy02


    I think I seen your car, I think a grand or little over will be what you will prob get if you tough it out, if its the one that has 220k miles you really had your money's worth out of the girl, fair play to you :0)

    With high tax , miles year your going to find it tough getting 1500

    Good luck christy

    Would take a grand at a push. You think ad looks ok? Runs well enough. Clean for the mileage as well. Give it a few days and might drop price a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    Those boys are what's known as "fcuking timewasters". Slightly less annoying than test pilots, who do turn up but have no money.

    I got a test pilot about 7 years ago. Father and son. Took it for a drive and that was it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,309 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    hallo dare wrote: »
    Never meet them at your house, always go to a neutral place.

    Some people don't like that. It might look like like you are trying to hide something by not meeting at the sellers house.

    I was buying a car one time I was in his house at the kitchen table gave him the money he left it on table he left the room and I followed behind him(could have took the money, but I would never do that) back out to car gave me the keys and I drove off with car could have easily pocketed the money as well. He took a chance and there are a lot of chancers out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    I got a test pilot about 7 years ago. Father and son. Took it for a drive and that was it.

    They drove off without paying? :confused:

    That'd make them thieves, not test pilots!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭hallo dare


    Some people don't like that. It might look like like you are trying to hide something by not meeting at the sellers house.

    I was buying a car one time I was in his house at the kitchen table gave him the money he left it on table he left the room and I followed behind him(could have took the money, but I would never do that) back out to car gave me the keys and I drove off with car could have easily pocketed the money as well. He took a chance and there are a lot of chancers out there.

    Better than some scum knowing where you live and giving you hassle.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,895 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    hallo dare wrote: »
    Never meet them at your house, always go to a neutral place.

    Why? I never have an issue with meeting a prospective buyer at my house.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭hallo dare


    Why? I never have an issue with meeting a prospective buyer at my house.

    My family's safety, my house, my personal belongings. How many of these "so called buyers" might use meeting at your property as a scope to see if your home may actually be worth paying a visit to the next time you're out.

    Fcuk that, if you're happy to meet strangers at your home to show them round then that's your choice, i know what i prefer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭FullblownRose


    I've bought three cars from done deal . ie so far. I wouldn't like to try selling one on it because I'd say you would get a lot of time wasters. I don't understand why people want to test drive a car they have no intention of buying and can't afford. Anyway I would prefer not to meet a prospective buyer at my own home if I was selling because they are complete strangers- I have heard of scams where people eye up your property and potentially could come back later to steal something. I viewed and bouht my most recent car from donedeal in the local Tesco car park. It meant I could take it for a test drive there (massive car park and mostly empty) and did not need to take it onto a main road , maybe a large carark would be a good place to meet if you have people test driving your car. It's also sort of neutral but public so maybe a bit safer for all concerned. The person I bought from sells cars regularly and looked a bit surprised when I said I would buy it, I imagine he gets plenty of time wasters and ditherers. I would have a fair idea from an ad on donedeal that i wat the car as long as it turns out to be ok upon inspection and everything is genuine and in order, paperwork wise. I wouldnt dream of messing someone around and wouldnt have time to be wasting myself either. Don't entertain bidding over the phone, if you have 'O.N.O' on the ad they can haggle when they see the car but until then they cant seriously know if they want it and shouldnt be trying to bargain. Hpefully you will get a serious buyer soon.

    If they bought the car they would still have your adress on the ta book afaik so its not like they have no idea where youre from, why would they need to see your home to buy your car.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    Why? I never have an issue with meeting a prospective buyer at my house.

    Depends on the car a bit as well. Id rather not have someone know where my car is parked at night if I can at all avoid it. Too many stories of cars going missing after people coming to view them based on DD adverts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭yessam


    I have advertised cars twice on DD and on both times almost immediately I received a text asking me would I swap for another car which I had no interest in.
    I didn't give any indication that I was interested in swapping for another car.

    Is this a scam or just a coincidence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    yessam wrote: »
    I have advertised cars twice on DD and on both times almost immediately I received a text asking me would I swap for another car which I had no interest in.
    I didn't give any indication that I was interested in swapping for another car.

    Is this a scam or just a coincidence.

    Its just a sign of the level of stupidity that exists out there.

    I see youre selling a Toyota Supra; would you be interested in swapping for a 01 Micra with money my way? :rolleyes:

    I suppose at least with a text you can ignore it; a phone call will waste two minutes of your life that youll never get back!


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,883 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    Why? I never have an issue with meeting a prospective buyer at my house.

    The few cars I have sold privately I've sold each of them from my house. I'd rather do the deal on my turf tbh than anywhere else, especially when it comes to counting cash. You can judge a lot about potential buyers from the phone conversation anyway, if you get the sense that someone is acting the pr1ck, you can usually tell after about 20 seconds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭christy02


    Anyone know what the story is with having a different number at the end of the ad to in the body of the ad, saying my phone got stolen, ring thus number?

    Why not just change number at the end of the ad. Is it to do with revenue or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭christy02


    Anyone know what the story is with having a different number at the end of the ad to in the body of the ad, saying my phone got stolen, ring thus number?

    Why not just change number at the end of the ad. Is it to do with revenue or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,545 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    christy02 wrote: »
    Anyone know what the story is with having a different number at the end of the ad to in the body of the ad, saying my phone got stolen, ring thus number?

    Why not just change number at the end of the ad. Is it to do with revenue or something?

    I'm not sure you can pay for a donedeal ad off all phones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭christy02


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    I'm not sure you can pay for a donedeal ad off all phones.

    Not a reason to run then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    So going by this thread anyone that test drives a car and doesn't buy it is a test pilot, what about if the car doesn't appeal to them or they find something wrong with it?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Stained Class


    hallo dare wrote: »
    Never meet them at your house, always go to a neutral place.

    Depends on what your'e selling really.

    Something valueble with export potential, I'd deal away from home.

    Otherwise I'd have no probs with callers to the door.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭lomb


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    So going by this thread anyone that test drives a car and doesn't buy it is a test pilot, what about if the car doesn't appeal to them or they find something wrong with it?

    Absolutely, the only reason a man walks onto a used car lot is he wants to buy. Its the sellers responsibility to honestly advertise the car , present the car properly ie be clean and clear of belongings , be friendly, helpful etc. Used cars are sold as seen with no comeback so buyers have every right to be choosy.
    Most sellers fall down woefully on this and regard anyone who is interested but doesn't buy as a test pilot or timewaster. They would make ****e business men tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭lomb


    I wouldn't let anyone in the house but no problem selling at the house and have sold a few cars like this. Most houses can be seen from google satellite anyway by anyone with a computer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    lomb wrote: »
    I wouldn't let anyone in the house but no problem selling at the house and have sold a few cars like this. Most houses can be seen from google satellite anyway by anyone with a computer.
    Exactly, if I were going to view a car and the seller wanted to meet somewhere local like a car park etc. alarm bells would start ringing. Their address would be on the owners cert anyway which I would want to see.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Stained Class


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Exactly, if I were going to view a car and the seller wanted to meet somewhere local like a car park etc. alarm bells would start ringing. Their address would be on the owners cert anyway which I would want to see.

    When I go out to buy a car I try to find out as much as I can about it's owner as I can.

    That way you get an idea of how the car's been treated etc.

    If you see the sellers house, family set-up, how their place is minded & so on.

    Rough people tend to sell rough cars, and all that...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭kravmaga


    yessam wrote: »
    I have advertised cars twice on DD and on both times almost immediately I received a text asking me would I swap for another car which I had no interest in.
    I didn't give any indication that I was interested in swapping for another car.

    Is this a scam or just a coincidence.

    These boys are whats know in the trade as the Part xchange merchants, usually offer you a heape of sh1t plus some cash, watch these boys.

    DD is viewd by a high proportion of Test pilots, Tyre kickers , Part- xchange + CASH heads.:D

    I prefer Carzone for selling a car.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭shamwari


    I've bought and sold through DoneDeal at various stages. It does seem to be a happy hunting ground for buyers and sellers alike, and due to its popularity, you will come across all sorts. As with buying or selling through any medium, the usual rules of due diligence naturally apply.

    When selling, I use my landline as this keeps text messers at bay. It's mailbox will also work where missed callers leave a message. If someone is genuinely interested in your car, they will be asking questions about it rather than haggling a price on something they have yet to see. If you get the instant haggler straight off then common sense should dictate the appropriate response to be given :)

    Arguably the biggest gripe I have when buying is people who blatantly misrepresent what they are selling and advertise a car as mint when in fact it's little better than a shed. Even simple things like presentation are woefully overlooked. It takes little to vacuum clean a car and put it through a wash. Instead they'll offer it for sale looking it's grimy filthy best, complete with the burnt remains of 20 John Player blue still in the ashtray!

    Arguably the best cars to go for are ones where the owner has had it for a few years and can properly account for its history. Even if it needs a bit if work, I wouldn't rule it out if it's fundamentals and price are still good. If in PMO, I'd rather pay slightly over the odds for such a car because these tend to make the best purchases for medium to long term ownership.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭LifeSaabItch


    Last time I was selling a car from my house, While I popped inside for a sec to grab something.... Bastard robbed my Gear Knob from my other car, Noticed only a few days later.

    So I meet buyers in a carpark now and deal there.


    Also avoids the akwardness of them asking to use the jacks at your house, Not going to let a randomer from DoneDeal in and give them the grand tour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭christy02


    Last time I was selling a car from my house, While I popped inside for a sec to grab something.... Bastard robbed my Gear Knob from my other car, Noticed only a few days later.

    So I meet buyers in a carpark now and deal there.


    Also avoids the akwardness of them asking to use the jacks at your house, Not going to let a randomer from DoneDeal in and give them the grand tour.

    Ha ha that's funny they always ask to use the jacks alright.

    Few years ago I met this guy in war memorial car park to see my car. He asked to take it for a spin around the car park. I took keys to his car so didn't see a problem.

    Couple days later when I actually sold the car to a decent sort, noticed that the bastard had thieved the owners cert from glove box.

    Queue anxious couple days over weekend till I could phone Shannon and cancel it. Freaking out that he might have forged signature, changed car to his name and then reported it stolen!

    All ok in the end. 12 bucks for a new log book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭christy02


    Last time I was selling a car from my house, While I popped inside for a sec to grab something.... Bastard robbed my Gear Knob from my other car, Noticed only a few days later.

    So I meet buyers in a carpark now and deal there.


    Also avoids the akwardness of them asking to use the jacks at your house, Not going to let a randomer from DoneDeal in and give them the grand tour.

    Ha ha that's funny they always ask to use the jacks alright.

    Few years ago I met this guy in war memorial car park to see my car. He asked to take it for a spin around the car park. I took keys to his car so didn't see a problem.

    Couple days later when I actually sold the car to a decent sort, noticed that the bastard had thieved the owners cert from glove box.

    Queue anxious couple days over weekend till I could phone Shannon and cancel it. Freaking out that he might have forged signature, changed car to his name and then reported it stolen!

    All ok in the end. 12 bucks for a new log book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭lomb




    Also avoids the akwardness of them asking to use the jacks at your house, Not going to let a randomer from DoneDeal in and give them the grand tour.

    You could decline and just tell them its your/familes policy not to let anyone in house, however they can use round back if they like.
    I just come straight out and lock front door behind me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,213 ✭✭✭PrettyBoy


    Best option is to meet near a well-known public place near your home with people around imo.

    Don't under any circumstances meet someone half-way or drive to them to show your car.

    Don't hold your car for any buyer no matter what reason the they give.

    Don't entertain or accept any offers over the phone, tell them to come to you and make an offer.

    Don't let them drive the car on their own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    If the potential buyer wants to take your car for a spin, is it being excessively anal to request they bring paperwork with them, to prove that they have their own insurance cover that allows them to drive 3rd party cars?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,213 ✭✭✭PrettyBoy


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    If the potential buyer wants to take your car for a spin, is it being excessively anal to request they bring paperwork with them, to prove that they have their own insurance cover that allows them to drive 3rd party cars?

    I was wondering the same thing a few months ago - opinions are very divided.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=86938654


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭corsav6


    Done deal is a pain, people using every keyword they can think of for bags of shi*e. Vxr Honda civic? Only on done deal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    PrettyBoy wrote: »
    I was wondering the same thing a few months ago - opinions are very divided.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=86938654

    Thanks for that. I read all six pages and I am still none the wiser. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭christy02


    Sold car in the end at weekend. Guy met me away from house.
    Tried to tell me everything was wrong with car from down in power to possibly clocked.

    I told him on test drive that if he didn't like it then to stop the test drive now and get out!
    He then proceeded to slam on the breaks and ask me who the f*ck did I think I was.

    He bought the car for more than what I stated on here I would take for it. Tried to leave me short a 100 while counting out the money.

    Totally tried to intimidate me. No wonder people pay higher prices in dealerships to avoid this ****e.

    Got the logbook in post same day. Can anyone tell me if he gave me a false name/address for the logbook what would happen then. Say gaurds found car burned out somewhere in couple days?

    Checked address on maps, doesn't mean he lives there. It was guys dad rang first, then son bought it. Dad lives in country (who car was for) but gave me his address in town. Car was supposedly for the dad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,545 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    The fun with these guys usually starts when they expect the lifetime warranty.

    They're not gonna spend €1000-1500 to burn the car out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭FullblownRose


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    If the potential buyer wants to take your car for a spin, is it being excessively anal to request they bring paperwork with them, to prove that they have their own insurance cover that allows them to drive 3rd party cars?

    Well, when I saw a car I wanted to buy on donedeal.ie and arranged to meet the seller and see the car I phoned my insurance company and they provisionally canged my policy to the new car. They said they had automatic cover or something for these situations. I got a lift out to see te car I wanted to buy. Insurance co. said to phone them and confirm if I bought car and wanted to proceed with the change on the policy. So I wouldnt have been able to show the seller such a policy saying Im covered to drive any other cars but I was covered to test drive the car and drive it home when I bought it (it was in the evening after insurance co. office closed).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    Well, when I saw a car I wanted to buy on donedeal.ie and arranged to meet the seller and see the car I phoned my insurance company and they provisionally canged my policy to the new car. They said they had automatic cover or something for these situations. I got a lift out to see te car I wanted to buy. Insurance co. said to phone them and confirm if I bought car and wanted to proceed with the change on the policy. So I wouldnt have been able to show the seller such a policy saying Im covered to drive any other cars but I was covered to test drive the car and drive it home when I bought it (it was in the evening after insurance co. office closed).

    You most likely have third party extension cover which allows you to drive any car that isnt yours on third party cover. It would be in your policy that you have this cover.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    PrettyBoy wrote: »
    I was wondering the same thing a few months ago - opinions are very divided.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=86938654

    It seems that if you allow a non-insured driver to driver your car then you are equally responsible. Id have no hesitation in looking for some proof of insurance cover before I hand the keys over to someone.


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