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Fred Phelps (founder of the Westboro Baptist Church) has died

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,072 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    Should just ignore his death, it just gives more attention to that shower.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Not going to delight in someone else's death. He made a lot of people unhappy though and I think the world is better off without him.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭Halloween Jack


    Should just ignore his death, it just gives more attention to that shower.

    Without Fred the whole thing will disintegrate imo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    Lets picket at his funeral, Or will the westboro Baptist Church already have that covered ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    May he swiftly pass into the obscurity he so richly deserves.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    Horrible man.

    Weird that he was a civil rights lawyer though.

    Fighting for the rights of one group while condemning another to hell....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭csallmighty


    Lets picket at his funeral, Or will the westboro Baptist Church already have that covered ?

    Oh the irony if there was picketing at his funeral. They would probably welcome it though more publicity for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    He dedicated his whole life to his imaginary friend. Today he died and found out that he wasted his whole life. Go easy on him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Without Fred the whole thing will disintegrate imo

    Nope, one of the daughters has been in charge for a while.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    Ding dong.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    Without Fred the whole thing will disintegrate imo

    Think I heard not long ago that his own cult loonies excommunicated him though? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    He dedicated his whole life to his imaginary friend. Today he died and found out that he wasted his whole life. Go easy on him

    He dedicated his life to spread a message of hate. As a Christian myself this guy never represented the true message of the gospel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭Halloween Jack


    Nope, one of the daughters has been in charge for a while.

    On the organisational front, but he was their source for all doctrinal/spiritual matters, I don't think it will last long without him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,488 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    keano_afc wrote: »
    He dedicated his life to spread a message of hate. As a Christian myself this guy never represented the true message of the gospel.

    Well he did also argue for civil rights for black people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    keano_afc wrote: »
    He dedicated his life to spread a message of hate. As a Christian myself this guy never represented the true message of the gospel.

    He just had a different interpretation of a book to you. He believed he was doing what was right just as much as you believe what you are doing is right, as a Christian. I'm not excusing his 'hate' but he personally killed a lot less people than Christianity has, and as an awareness raiser for how silly following an imaginary friend is, he did a damned good job at that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,998 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    keano_afc wrote: »
    He dedicated his life to spread a message of hate. As a Christian myself this guy never represented the true message of the gospel.

    Theres a true message of the gospel?
    Quick someone tell all the splintered christian bodies the true message has been found!

    Most self proclaimed free speech absolutists are giant big whiny snowflakes!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    Think I heard not long ago that his own cult loonies excommunicated him though? :confused:

    Yes heard that aswell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,998 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Well he did also argue for civil rights for black people.

    Thats not the true message though, the bible loves a bit of slavery doesn't it?

    Most self proclaimed free speech absolutists are giant big whiny snowflakes!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    Hope he rots in he......oh wait it doesn't exist.
    The eternal reward he based his life around doesn't either, what a waste, so much anger over nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Foxhound38 wrote: »

    Watch they will try to take legal action to prevent people saying or doing anything at his funeral,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,455 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Aww...that's a shame.

    He was such a gift to the world of comedy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    I take no delight in his death and I have a great amount of pity for him, he was a man consumed by hatred.

    He was also unwittingly one of the best things to have happened to the LGBT rights movement, having done more to change people's attitudes than a thousand pride parades ever would. I do smile at the irony in that, that his legacy will be that of an unintentional hero to LGBT people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,193 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Gatling wrote: »
    Watch they will try to take legal action to prevent people saying or doing anything at his funeral,

    They said they wouldn't be having a funeral at all. It's not part of their (special brand of) religion. Every death is God's judgement, so they wouldn't have a funeral. He'll likely be quietly buried or cremated somewhere. Plus, he was excommunicated from the church last year.

    Besides, even if they were having a funeral, they wouldn't try to stop people picketing it. It would give them publicity and reason to b*tch about other people as hypocrites etc. As hurtful as it might be in the short-term, they wouldn't turn down the long-term benefits.

    What they crave more than anything is publicity. It's the same reason why when they're protesting, one person might be holding four signs at the same time. It makes them look bigger, when really they are very, very small and insignificant. Their numbers are falling and falling, the amount of publicity they've gotten over the past few years has decreased, and people mostly just ignore them now. Protesting a Phelps funeral would simply give them the attention they want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,488 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Thats not the true message though, the bible loves a bit of slavery doesn't it?

    Yeah, he was a bit of a liberal, wishy-washy Christian truth be known.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    Holsten wrote: »
    Horrible man.

    Weird that he was a civil rights lawyer though.

    Fighting for the rights of one group while condemning another to hell....
    Ush1 wrote: »
    Well he did also argue for civil rights for black people.

    According to one of his kids who got out, he was just as bigoted against black people, he just knew he could make good money by representing them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭DamagedTrax


    Penn wrote: »
    They said they wouldn't be having a funeral at all. It's not part of their (special brand of) religion. Every death is God's judgement, so they wouldn't have a funeral. He'll likely be quietly buried or cremated somewhere. Plus, he was excommunicated from the church last year.

    Besides, even if they were having a funeral, they wouldn't try to stop people picketing it. It would give them publicity and reason to b*tch about other people as hypocrites etc. As hurtful as it might be in the short-term, they wouldn't turn down the long-term benefits.

    What they crave more than anything is publicity. It's the same reason why when they're protesting, one person might be holding four signs at the same time. It makes them look bigger, when really they are very, very small and insignificant. Their numbers are falling and falling, the amount of publicity they've gotten over the past few years has decreased, and people mostly just ignore them now. Protesting a Phelps funeral would simply give them the attention they want.

    if people insist on protesting (which i think would be just giving them creedence) then i think the most appropriate thing would be to line the funeral route (if there is even one) and turn their backs on the procession.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭Sofaspud


    He dedicated his whole life to his imaginary friend. Today he died and found out that he wasted his whole life. Go easy on him

    The sad thing is that he didn't. His consciousness stopped, so he never knew that all of his "spreading of gospel" was pointless.

    And for people saying he was spreading a message of hate, that's not what he was doing at all. He just sincerely believed most of the bible that all "christians" claim to follow. He was trying to save people from an eternity of suffering by trying to inform people of the one true way.

    I'm not saying he was right, he was most definitely a dick, but it was entirely due to his outdated beliefs.


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  • Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He was one sick puppy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭robertpatterson


    Wow
    One man dies in the world who believes something from the bible and its suddenly a chance to jump on Christianity
    Cant wait to hear from all the same people when a prominent radical muslim dies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Davidth88


    Horrible nasty bitter man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,397 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Wow
    One man dies in the world who believes something from the bible and its suddenly a chance to jump on Christianity
    Cant wait to hear from all the same people when a prominent radical muslim dies

    :rolleyes:

    *I hate that fcuking smiley but still


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles


    They kind of make me ashamed to be Christian.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭MetalDog


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Well he did also argue for civil rights for black people.

    His son is on record as saying that Phelps Snr didn't give a bollocks about civil rights for black people and only did it to take their money.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭Burky126


    This really is a rare case of a person who has died who really had it coming.

    Can't say anyone can defend him,everyone has redeemable qualities to some,even a lesser degree.

    But remember this was a guy who not only spewed vitrol at LGBT and dead soldiers at funerals but who also expoited the civil rights movement in order to gain a false reputation and extra cash and who beat his kids and his wife on an almost daily basis.

    There's having a lack of compassion and then there's this guy.

    Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck this guy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    I feel sorry for the guy. Going thru life with all that hatred in your soul. Vilified and basking in the hatred. Hated by some of his kids as he beat them.
    Then he gets feeble and is excommunicated fro his own church.
    Some of his family not allowed to visit on his deathbed.
    Waste of a life, waste of the opportunity to be happy and to leave a positive legacy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Burky126 wrote: »
    This really is a rare case of a person who has died who really had it coming.

    Can't say anyone can defend him,everyone has redeemable qualities to some,even a lesser degree.

    But remember this was a guy who not only spewed vitrol at LGBT and dead soldiers at funerals but who also expoited the civil rights movement in order to gain a false reputation and extra cash and who beat his kids and his wife on an almost daily basis.

    There's having a lack of compassion and then there's this guy.

    Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck this guy.

    We all have it coming. :confused:
    Mortality is hardly a triumph when it's the only thing we have in common with this cnut.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭Burky126


    Muise... wrote: »
    We all have it coming. :confused:
    Mortality is hardly a triumph when it's the only thing we have in common with this cnut.

    I disagree.

    When one has led such a life of hate,dying is the first step towards forgetting and forgiving monsters such as these.

    At least where you,I and most people go on to beyond this life,we will hopefully have fond memories and experiences to leave behind.That's our triumph.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭StinkyMunkey


    Nice legacy to have - that of a hate filled bigot, who preached hatred and intolerance. When people talk about this scum bag, it will be with disgust.

    Think id rather be remembered fondly by the people around me.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    Links234 wrote: »
    I take no delight in his death and I have a great amount of pity for him, he was a man consumed by hatred.
    .......................................................................................................................................................................................................

    I wouldn't say consumed by hatred. I think he got off on hatred. Remember, adrenalin and stress are quite addictive. So this kept his dopamine receptors going full tilt. But in all sense of the word he was an anagram of "a cnut". :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    here's hoping he was roaring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Fare well you nasty little hate filled turd...you will not be missed, ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭Me?


    He may have been a horrible man but he was loved by his followers and his dedication to his beliefs and ability to live by the convictions of those beliefs is admirable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    Me? wrote: »
    He may have been a horrible man but he was loved by his followers and his dedication to his beliefs and ability to live by the convictions of those beliefs is admirable.



    shall I godwin the thread...?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    Me? wrote: »
    He may have been a horrible man but he was loved by his followers and his dedication to his beliefs and ability to live by the convictions of those beliefs is admirable.

    We're talking Fred Phelps here, not Hitler


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭Me?


    shall I godwin the thread...?

    Wily did it for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭OneEightSeven


    Nice legacy to have - that of a hate filled bigot, who preached hatred and intolerance. When people talk about this scum bag, it will be with disgust.

    Think id rather be remembered fondly by the people around me.

    He may be hate-filled, but that's the Bible for you. He was a genuine Christian and actually read the Bible, unlike the many posers who have never read or understood it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    Me? wrote: »
    He may have been a horrible man but he was loved by his followers and his dedication to his beliefs and ability to live by the convictions of those beliefs is admirable.

    Being loved by his followers doesn't excuse his beliefs.

    And it's pretty easy to live life as a hate-filled bigot, to be honest - that's taking the easy path.

    Trying to get along in life and understand other people who are different from you in various ways - now that takes effort, which is why you don't see twats like Westboro Baptist doing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭MetalDog




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