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Nixer Jim

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micraX

#dualway

Victor

micraX wrote: »

#dualway

Pardon?

markpb

Interesting to see single deck buses back on the cards again.

end of the road

are these busses to replace older ones being retired? i thought their was some busses in storage? or did they come into service when the high floor busses were retired? were some busses not taken off as part of the cuts or were they just the high floor busses being retired?

Captain Chaos

There are 14 year old AVs still going round that could do with being replaced alright. In saying that some of the AVs are in very good condition for their age too.

LXFlyer

There are no Dublin Bus vehicles in storage, nor were there at any point. Vehicles were withdrawn and sold.

This will be part of the normal fleet replacement programme.

Dublin Bus are merely pricing the market to see what options are out there.

micraX

Not all sold plenty of AV's on Broadstone. And the old ghostbus.

LXFlyer

micraX wrote: »

Not all sold plenty of AV's on Broadstone. And the old ghostbus.

They are not stored with the plan to come back into service.


They are all for sale/scrap.

dfx-

micraX wrote: »

Not all sold plenty of AV's on Broadstone. And the old ghostbus.

As of a couple of weeks ago, there was still one of the withdrawn AV60s sitting in Clontarf too. AV64 possibly? most of the rest are long since gone - probably first batch to go.

There's plenty of 14 year old AVs that have absolutely no need replacing and/or have had huge work done on them recently particularly AV153-AV160 in Harristown.

end of the road

so their replacing these busses now rather then working them until they can't work no more because they will get more for the resale which can help to buy new busses then what they would get for the scrap value once life expired?

dfx-

It would be interesting to know just how much work/value you could get out of the buses that have had engine refits and overhauls like AV153, AV154 and AV157 rather than buying a new bus. AV153 is just back from its work done on the engine.

micraX

dfx- wrote: »

It would be interesting to know just how much work/value you could get out of the buses that have had engine refits and overhauls like AV153, AV154 and AV157 rather than buying a new bus. AV153 is just back from its work done on the engine.

Last year I know of one AV I think that got a brand new engine and then was sold off less than 6 months later. Talk about east of money.

Nixer Jim

micraX wrote: »

Last year I know of one AV I think that got a brand new engine and then was sold off less than 6 months later. Talk about east of money.

You'd have to wonder! What a waste. Mind you it shouldn't really be of any surprise given the mindset in CIE to offload such young buses, buses that go straight back into busy mainstream services on many occasions back in the UK.

Victor

micraX wrote: »

Last year I know of one AV I think that got a brand new engine and then was sold off less than 6 months later. Talk about east of money.

In fleet management, engines are often swapped in and out. No need to have a valuable vehicle out of service for an extended time while you are waiting for a long lead-in part.

How do you know it was a new engine and not a reconditioned one?

And how do you know that engine was sold with that bus?

micraX

Victor wrote: »

In fleet management, engines are often swapped in and out. No need to have a valuable vehicle out of service for an extended time while you are waiting for a long lead-in part.

How do you know it was a new engine and not a reconditioned one?

And how do you know that engine was sold with that bus?

In the private sector yes this is true. Because I know who put it in and who bought it.

xper

How come Dublin Bus are inviting tenders? I thought the NTA had assumed responsibility for public transport vehicle purchases. Or do they just sign the cheques?

LXFlyer

xper wrote: »

How come Dublin Bus are inviting tenders? I thought the NTA had assumed responsibility for public transport vehicle purchases. Or do they just sign the cheques?

I would doubt that the NTA has the engineering expertise to do that.

Dublin Bus clearly does, and they will still be operating any buses delivered in 2015.

VWD8

Once the NTA informs Dublin Bus that funding is available for fleet replacement, they will tender and purchase the buses. The buses are owned by Dublin Bus ie. They are the legal owners of them and are on the Dublin Bus balance sheet as an asset. The NTA pays for them.

Victor

VWD8 wrote: »

Once the NTA informs Dublin Bus that funding is available for fleet replacement, they will tender and purchase the buses. The buses are owned by Dublin Bus ie. They are the legal owners of them and are on the Dublin Bus balance sheet as an asset. The NTA pays for them.

The last batch were bought and are owned by the NTA.

VWD8

Victor wrote: »

The last batch were bought and are owned by the NTA.

No they are owned by Dublin Bus as such. The NTA have a clause in the contract for funding them that if Dublin Bus were to cease operating PSO routes, an applicable amount of these buses would transfer to the other operator.

The buses are fully to Dublin Bus spec, ie. raked windscreen, gasket windows, seat covers, legal lettering etc.

micraX

VWD8 wrote: »

Once the NTA informs Dublin Bus that funding is available for fleet replacement, they will tender and purchase the buses. The buses are owned by Dublin Bus ie. They are the legal owners of them and are on the Dublin Bus balance sheet as an asset. The NTA pays for them.

You left out the bit were they tell Irish Commercials the price offered by others so they can go lower.