Woman Shot Dead

finnharpsboy

From the Sunday World

http://www.sundayworld.com/top-stories/crime-desk/woman-shot-in-dublin-housing-estate?previewId=yp3sjo9#.UySKO_gTIgQ.twitter

GARDAI are investigating the death of a woman on a Dublin housing estate today.

The dead woman is believed to have died of gunshot wounds.

Gardai responded to the incident in Killinarden in Tallaght this afternoon.

It is understood two women were shot during the violent incident at a house in the estate.

A second woman was also injured and is being treated in hospital. She is understood to be the daughter of the deceased.

Gardai rushed to a family home in the estate after reports that a man with a firearm was still at the scene.

Sources said a man was arrested and is being treated in St James hospital for unspecified injuries.

KimmyKims

My partner knows the woman very well, he is from the area. Very sad and shocking

okidoki987

Something to do with a row between neighbours according to the Indo?
Shot himself afterwards and then arrested.

The_Mask

His defence will probably be that he was provoked to the point of temporary insanity, blind rage if you will. Won't hold up in court but can anyone see how he can react in this way. I ve had trouble with my neighbour and believe me I ve been provoked for a reaction many times even though I don't know or have done anything on my neighbour since moving in 2 years ago. It's a tragic incident and my condolences to the family involved.

Lucas Castroman

Was he taking antidepressants.. Maybe we can blame them

freshpopcorn

Lucas Castroman wrote: »

Was he taking antidepressants.. Maybe we can blame them

No wonder there a stigma about mental health issues when people make comments like this.

jane82

freshpopcorn wrote: »

No wonder there a stigma about mental health issues when people make comments like this.

Sit back and watch the thanks roll in eh?

Femme_Fatale

What on earth is this obsessive "Looking for thanks" sh1t about? Most people just post their view. The stuff about "thanks-whoring" seems the vast majority of the time to be all in the head.

jescart

Shocking stuff altogether, Tallaght is usually such a quiet area most of the time.

rwg

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

What on earth this is obsessive "Looking for thanks" sh1t about? Most people just post their view. The stuff about "thanks-whoring" seems the vast majority of the time to be all in the head.

THANKS

freshpopcorn

jane82 wrote: »

Sit back and watch the thanks roll in eh?

I'm not looking for thanks, I just stated that a comment made about cause stigma towards mental health issues. Which in my opinion often results in suicide's.

Tasden

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

What on earth this is obsessive "Looking for thanks" sh1t about? Most people just post their view. The stuff about "thanks-whoring" seems the vast majority of the time to be all in the head.

You only have to look at the first page of nearly every AH thread to see that thanks whoring is not all in the head.

And usually when a poster is outraged about something that is obviously just a flippant remark/joke, it is looking for thanks. Not necessarily in this case but usually it is.

Gael23

This doesn't sound like someone with mental health issues but rather a dispute between neighbours that has gone too far. The women are mother and daughter according to RTE

jane82

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I'm not looking for thanks, I just stated that a comment made about cause stigma towards mental health issues. Which in my opinion often results in suicide's.

Is disagree I think the poster was either making a joke or accuseing the justice system of being crap.
Anyway its a thread about a woman who was shot so I will agree you are right if you want.

Gael23

The other Woman was shot in the face so she was shot to kill also.
Forgive me if im wrong but they dont sound like a nice bunch.

Femme_Fatale

Tasden wrote: »

You only have to look at the first page of nearly every AH thread to see that thanks whoring is not all in the head.

And usually when a poster is outraged about something that is obviously just a flippant remark/joke, it is looking for thanks. Not necessarily in this case but usually it is.

How is it known that it's looking for thanks though?
I know thanks-whoring isn't all in the head, but long before the thanks system there were silly messing posts at the start of a thread, and outraged responses to jokes.

jane82

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

How is it known that it's looking for thanks though?
I know thanks-whoring isn't all in the head, but long before the thanks system there were silly messing posts at the start of a thread, and outraged responses to jokes.

Because the post wasnt slagging mental health at all. Anyone could see that.

Sir Arthur Daley

Are we having a Biopsy on thanks-whoring or a thread on the shooting?

Gongoozler

Kilinarden is a really rough part of tallaght isn't it?

The_Mask

ryanf1 wrote: »

The other Woman was shot in the face so she was shot to kill also.
Forgive me if im wrong but they dont sound like a nice bunch.

Where did you hear this...out of interest!

The_Mask

Gongoozler wrote: »

Kilinarden is a really rough part of tallaght isn't it?

Doesn't matter where it happened, neighbour disputes happen everywhere

Banjo String

Gongoozler wrote: »

Kilinarden is a really rough part of tallaght isn't it?

Or that Killinarden is a lovely area that has some rough people in it?

Don't like the stigma Tallaght gets at times. Lived there myself for 3 years and never had a problem, not once.

There isn't really any place in the country that's "rough" there's just some places that have a few folk who drag the rest of the place down with them.

Gael23

The_Mask wrote: »

Where did you hear this...out of interest!

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0315/602550-tallaght-shooting/

The_Mask

ryanf1 wrote: »

This doesn't sound like someone with mental health issues but rather a dispute between neighbours that has gone too far. The women are mother and daughter according to RTE

You ve obviously never had a long term on going dispute with any of your neighbours, believe me if you haven't you re lucky. I have since I moved in to my house 2 years ago and it's not a nice thing to live with. Nothing to do with me...my neighbour is just a sad bitter woman looking for something to do with her time. She would do things like start doing housework at 1am, till 2.30am, when I was in work at 6am. When it starts to affect your quality of life it can become physically and mentality tiring.

Gael23

The_Mask wrote: »

You ve obviously never had a long term on going dispute with any of your neighbours, believe me if you haven't you re lucky. I have since I moved in to my house 2 years ago and it's not a nice thing to live with. Nothing to do with me...my neighbour is just a sad bitter woman looking for something to do with her time. She would do things like start doing housework at 1am, till 2.30am, when I was in work at 6am. When it starts to affect your quality of life it can become physically and mentality tiring.

We have in the past and the situation was similar enough to yours, but there was never physical violence. Mostly just tense hostility and an occasional verbally abusive encounter. In the ens she sold her house and moved away and we have neither seen or spoken to her since
Trying to blow two womens heads off is different though

The_Mask

ryanf1 wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0315/602550-tallaght-shooting/

It doesn't say anything about them being not a nice bunch!...unless the article has been edited since

Gael23

The_Mask wrote: »

It doesn't say anything about them being not a nice bunch!...unless the article has been edited since

No thats just what i'm thinking myself . It takes alot for things to escalate to such a level

The_Mask

ryanf1 wrote: »

No thats just what i'm thinking myself . It takes alot for things to escalate to such a level

Yeah what's the bets they re on the social too ;-)

Gatling

Apparently the shooter wasn't well for sometime ,

downonthefarm

Lucas Castroman wrote: »

Was he taking antidepressants.. Maybe we can blame them

No maybe he was out of his mind on that super skunk

NewMrs2b

Gongoozler wrote: »

Kilinarden is a really rough part of tallaght isn't it?

Shockingly enough Killinarden is generally the quieter part. Cushlawn prob worst on that side of the road.

jane82

downonthefarm wrote: »

No maybe he was out of his mind on that super skunk

No wonder there is such a stigma about drug addiction yadda yadda yadda.

KungPao

Banjo String wrote: »

Or that Killinarden is a lovely area that has some rough people in it?

Don't like the stigma Tallaght gets at times. Lived there myself for 3 years and never had a problem, not once.

There isn't really any place in the country that's "rough" there's just some places that have a few folk who drag the rest of the place down with them.

Some people think it's like the Lebanon or the Gaza strip, such an exaggeration. It has it fair share of scobes, can't deny that, and to be honest (I say this a native of Tallaght) I wouldn't choose to live in these areas. Just too much hassle, not from the vast majority of residents though, just some who ruin it for everyone.

Some parts of Tallaght are perfectly fine, particulary the south/south eastern part and are getting even better I've noticed.

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RIP to the woman. Awful thing to happen.

Gongoozler

Banjo String wrote: »

Or that Killinarden is a lovely area that has some rough people in it?

Don't like the stigma Tallaght gets at times. Lived there myself for 3 years and never had a problem, not once.

There isn't really any place in the country that's "rough" there's just some places that have a few folk who drag the rest of the place down with them.

I wasn't saying anything about tallaght, my boyfriend is from there, and I think it was killinarden he was saying was rough.

Fudge You

Banjo String wrote: »

Or that Killinarden is a lovely area that has some rough people in it?

Don't like the stigma Tallaght gets at times. Lived there myself for 3 years and never had a problem, not once.

There isn't really any place in the country that's "rough" there's just some places that have a few folk who drag the rest of the place down with them.

Ive lived there a lot longer than you, 20years.
It is a kip, because, not only is there SOME "rough" people in it, but there are loads.

Ive had loads of problems, in places like killinarden and cushlawn. And then there is the square, full of scum. I hate walking through it. Too much scum. Go to dundrum shopping centre, and you would rarely see any scum. Big difference
There are too many scumbags in tallaght. I hate the place.

anncoates

Banjo String wrote: »

Don't like the stigma Tallaght gets at times. Lived there myself for 3 years and never had a problem, not once.

Killinarden is pretty rough compared to most of Talaght, to be fair. Was brought up there so I'd never knock it.

That said, this sounds like a freakish thing to happen anywhere.

finnharpsboy

spent many a long pleasurable summers day on the streets and lanes of killinarden estate

jane82

Id say its the roughest part of dublin Ive been in. Ive grown up in a very famous rough one but not there. Ive been in quite a few. Im sure it has its good and bad though just like anywhere.
Was that where the teenage girl got shot in the back of the jeep?

anncoates

jane82 wrote: »

Was that where the teenage girl got shot in the back of the jeep?

Fettercairn. Just across the road.

Eight Ball

The_Mask wrote: »

Doesn't matter where it happened, neighbour disputes happen everywhere

I had a dispute with a neighbour once and we didn't talk for a few weeks. I don't shoot my neighbours in the face when we have a dispute.

jane82

anncoates wrote: »

Fettercairn. Just across the road.

Is that where the scissor sisters lived?

Femme_Fatale

Eight Ball wrote: »

I had a dispute with a neighbour once and we didn't talk for a few weeks. I don't shoot my neighbours in the face when we have a dispute.

Obviously not condoning shooting someone but some neighbourly disputes are far more extreme than others.

The_Mask

Eight Ball wrote: »

for a few weeks.

Imagine the toll it would take on you after a few years!

anncoates

jane82 wrote: »

Is that where the scissor sisters lived?

No idea. Think they just buried the head up there.

The_Mask

anncoates wrote: »

No idea. Think they just buried the head up there.

I'd say a few non locals have buried the head up there :-P

Gatling

anncoates wrote: »

No idea. Think they just buried the head up there.

There from there alright ,and jobstown ,

Live in killinarden myself 5 mins from the shooting its no where as bad as it used to be

anncoates

Gatling wrote: »

Live in killinarden myself 5 mins from the shooting its no where as bad as it used to be

Wouldn't ever knock it. I'm from there (80s/90s) and my parents and good friends live there. Just acknowledging that it has its problems in the context of the chat.

Munstermad

Whatever way you look at it somebody's mum or sister or daughter is dead now. Because the person next door decided it. she's gone and wrongfully so..

jane82

Munstermad wrote: »

Whatever way you look at it somebody's mum or sister or daughter is dead now. Because the person next door decided it. she's gone and wrongfully so..

Are we sure it was the man next door?
I think all thats came out is that it was a locally well known man.

Gatling

jane82 wrote: »

Are we sure it was the man next door?
I think all thats came out is that it was a locally well known man.

He was a close neighbor

jane82

Gatling wrote: »

He was a close neighbor

Are we saying he was well known locally as a gangster or well known locally as a fella that frequented the house?