Prolapse advice

Bullocks

Thanks ganmo , the ropes worked and she is happy out this morning .
First lambs here this morning, a set of triplets out of the ewe that was loosing her wool , good stacks too

orm0nd

ganmo wrote: »

if you've no harness use twine/rope
I'll get a pic...

That's the harness I use ...... but, I find it works best if at Point 3 .. I just cross the ropes leaving out the bottom knot bringing the left up right side & vice versa , this allows more uniform tightening of the ropes without being misaligned

davidk1394

Many of ye coming across cases of ring womb in your ewes ??. Had 2 cases here so far and lost 1 ewe with it

Limestone Cowboy

davidk1394 wrote: »

Many of ye coming across cases of ring womb in your ewes ??. Had 2 cases here so far and lost 1 ewe with it

Have a friend that's getting a right dose with it. 60 ewes and had to 2 sections last week because of it.

Grazon

davidk1394 wrote:

Many of ye coming across cases of ring womb in your ewes ??. Had 2 cases here so far and lost 1 ewe with it

If you put in a couple of your fingers and move them around in a circular motion agents wall of her vagina for about 20 mins it will loosen her out usually works.

davidk1394

Grazon wrote: »

If you put in a couple of your fingers and move them around in a circular motion agents wall of her vagina for about 20 mins it will loosen her out usually works.

We did that for half hour left her for another half hour but the 2 lambs were massive

Grazon

davidk1394 wrote:

We did that for half hour left her for another half hour but the 2 lambs were massive

They be ready for weaning in a week or to so. 😀

Jack180570

Sheep breeder wrote: »

prolapse is usually down to two things wrong feeding or breeding in the ram.

The other thing that can cause prolapse is if you have tail-docked the ewe too tightly (cut tail too short)... this happened us a few years ago and had 9 of our first lambers prolapse.
Other than that in younger ewes its too much feeding late in pregnancy.
Older ewes will obviously be more prone to prolapse... wear and tear on the running gear

When it happens we mark the ewe for culling and also if she has a ewe lamb(s) we mark them to go for the factory

Bullocks

Hard to believe its two weeks ago but the ropes worked grand and she is after lambing twins on her own without prolapse . Do ye leave them on for a few days after lambing or would it be safe to take them off in the morning think ?

orm0nd

Bullocks wrote:

Hard to believe its two weeks ago but the ropes worked grand and she is after lambing twins on her own without prolapse . Do ye leave them on for a few days after lambing or would it be safe to take them off in the morning think ?

I usually take it off straight away,but then again I do a lot of stuff that's not recommended on here,like keeping the ewes maybe for another 3 or 4 years :-)

Username John

orm0nd wrote: »

I usually take it off straight away,but then again I do a lot of stuff that's not recommended on here,like keeping the ewes maybe for another 3 or 4 years :-)

Would you keep a ewe that prolapsed Ormond?
I did it once, and acourse she prolapsed again the next year and I said fcuk that, no more second chances

arctictree

Username John wrote: »

Would you keep a ewe that prolapsed Ormond?
I did it once, and acourse she prolapsed again the next year and I said fcuk that, no more second chances

2 of mine prolapsed in 2015. I didnt get a chance to cull last year and of those 2, one prolapsed again and the other didn't. The one that prolapsed died after a few days after a hard lambing.

Not sure what to make of that!

ganmo

arctictree wrote: »

2 of mine prolapsed in 2015. I didnt get a chance to cull last year and of those 2, one prolapsed again and the other didn't. The one that prolapsed died after a few days after a hard lambing.

Not sure what to make of that!

that ewes that prolapse have a 50% of doing it again the following year

murrak123

Leave the harness on for a couple of days afterwards if it was a hard lambing for her. I had one who pushed it all out two days after lambing.Better to be safe and have a ewe for the factory than a bill for the knackery.

Green farmer

After a few years of having 1-2 prolapses every year, zero prolapsed this year. Reason = half them died and anything that lived went straight to factory, no exceptions. Also think that Its in the genes to get rid of daughters as well.

davidk1394

A ewe lamb with twins prolapsed yesterday. She started lambing but got the 2 lambs out. Gave her pen strep. Put her into the pen and left her alone. There earlier today she prolapsed badly. Got 2 ropes and tied her back legs to the bucket of the digger and lifted her up until she was standing on her front legs. I washed the uterus and put it back in. Put on the harness and now she's chewing the cud. Lifting her up sounds rough but it makes it a lot easier putting in the womb as its going with the fall of ground

rangler1

davidk1394 wrote: »

A ewe lamb with twins prolapsed yesterday. She started lambing but got the 2 lambs out. Gave her pen strep. Put her into the pen and left her alone. There earlier today she prolapsed badly. Got 2 ropes and tied her back legs to the bucket of the digger and lifted her up until she was standing on her front legs. I washed the uterus and put it back in. Put on the harness and now she's chewing the cud. Lifting her up sounds rough but it makes it a lot easier putting in the womb as its going with the fall of ground

always hang them up here too, much easier on man and sheep.

sea12

Is there allot more prolapse this year than other years. Had 3 here and haven't had it in years. Got the straps on done deal for 20€ and they are a great job compared to ropes.

davidk1394

sea12 wrote: »

Is there allot more prolapse this year than other years. Had 3 here and haven't had it in years. Got the straps on done deal for 20€ and they are a great job compared to ropes.

We have about 2 less than usual. Cut all hay out of the diet and it made a huge difference. The straps are a great job and easy to use

Bleating Lamb

sea12 wrote: »

Is there allot more prolapse this year than other years. Had 3 here and haven't had it in years. Got the straps on done deal for 20€ and they are a great job compared to ropes.

Hard to say,in my area several farmers that never had prolapses have had a few this year.I always have one or two(lambing around 130 ewes) but this year of around 65 ewes lambed so far I have had 5 prolapses.

That's def above average:(....and it's not over feeding with nuts that's doing it.Ewes all lambing out too except the triplets....so plenty of exercise got.Of the 5 only 2 are off same ram so that kinda shoots down the genetic argument too!....

Bleating Lamb

Green farmer wrote: »

After a few years of having 1-2 prolapses every year, zero prolapsed this year. Reason = half them died and anything that lived went straight to factory, no exceptions. Also think that Its in the genes to get rid of daughters as well.

As matter of interest what kind of numbers would you be lambing?....pm if you like.

Green farmer

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

As matter of interest what kind of numbers would you be lambing?....pm if you like.

Around 170 this year between ewes and hoggets, with no cases yet. But in previous years always had 1-2 out of 100 ewes. Convinced it was daughters that continued on trend. By the time one prolapsed, she might have two previous crops of ewe lambs introduced in the flock. Hopefully rid of it now. I also take care not to cut tails too short as I've read a possible link there as well.

Country lad

I had two myself and never had any for years used the retainer myself and found it done the job well

Bleating Lamb

Green farmer wrote: »

Around 170 this year between ewes and hoggets, with no cases yet. But in previous years always had 1-2 out of 100 ewes. Convinced it was daughters that continued on trend. By the time one prolapsed, she might have two previous crops of ewe lambs introduced in the flock. Hopefully rid of it now. I also take care not to cut tails too short as I've read a possible link there as well.

Thanks...I'm a bit mystified by having so many this year as always get rid of ones that had them previously.Ah well hopefully things improve for rest of lambing.

Green farmer

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Thanks...I'm a bit mystified by having so many this year as always get rid of ones that had them previously.Ah well hopefully things improve for rest of lambing.

That's a lot of prolapsed alright, but all these troubles quite often turn up early in lambing so hopefully the only way is up. Even the scientists don't know for certain what causes it, all you can do is try and eliminate all the suspected risk factors and hope for the best .

drive it

Had 6 this year that's almost 1 in 10 odd time get 1 or 2 , the only thing is they are all older ewes so wear and tear could be coming into it . think there's going to be a bit of a clean out this year and try and keep the age profile down from now on