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Dublin public Hospital hires scientist with no experience and didn't advertise job

  • 11-03-2014 11:54pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28


    A Dublin public hospital hired a scientist with no experience. She had just finished her degree a couple of weeks earlier. She was not there on jobbridge and is directly employed by the hospital. I have loads of friends with Med Lab Science Degrees and they all either can't get Med Lab jobs, work abroad or work in industrial labs.

    1. Why did the Dublin Hospital hire someone with no experience who had just finished college a couple of weeks earlier? Why did nobody who had experience get hired?

    2. Why wasn't the job advertised? I was on that hospital's website for external candidates all the time and never saw the job advertised. All jobs should be advertised. It should be still advertised even if it was a graduate role as other graduates would like to apply.

    I can't put up a link to the woman in question. I have seen photos of her graduation (Class of 2013) and she started working in a State Hospital at the end of the Summer 2013. The hospital don't put such details online but I saw her graduation photos pictured with her mother. I saw her graduation photos from Summer 2013, she is 22 and from the Developing World but studied in Dublin.

    Maybe she was the best person for the job but this is not necessarily the case.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭Firewalkwithme


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    How much of this is actual fact and how much is hearsay and conjecture?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    OP, I have no idea what you're on about. Can we just blame flouride or the Illuminati and have done with it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    How much of this is actual fact and how much is hearsay and conjecture?

    Hearsay and conjecture are types of evidence your honour


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Piriz


    nepotism most likely...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭Mrs Garth Brooks


    Was this a jobbridge ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    scientist was connected

    you are either inside or outside the tent in this corrupt country


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Hearsay and conjecture are types of evidence your honour
    I now have a mixture of coffee and queencakes all over my keyboard. Thanks.:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    Is this a serious question?

    Either she's hot, dating someone important, or related/close friends with someone important in the hiring process.

    It's the way of the world. And while it's easy to say it's wrong (and it is wrong), when it is your turn to hire someone and you've got a choice between a stranger or your nephew who you know is qualified - who will you pick?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    UCDVet wrote: »
    Is this a serious question?

    Either she's hot, dating someone important, or related/close friends with someone important in the hiring process.

    It's the way of the world. And while it's easy to say it's wrong (and it is wrong), when it is your turn to hire someone and you've got a choice between a stranger or your nephew who you know is qualified - who will you pick?
    No way I'd shag my nephew, no matter how hot he is.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,850 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    scientist was connected

    you are either inside or outside the tent in this corrupt country

    Who owns the tent? There was a horse running at Cheltenham yesterday called My Tent or Yours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    anynews14 wrote: »
    A Dublin public hospital hired a scientist with no experience. She had just finished her degree a couple of weeks earlier. I have loads of friends with Med Lab Science Degrees and they all either can't get Med Lab jobs, work abroad or work in industrial labs.

    1. Why did the Dublin Hospital hire someone with no experience who had just finished college a couple of weeks earlier? Why did nobody who had experience get hired?

    2. Why wasn't the job advertised? I was on that hospital's website for external candidates all the time and never saw the job advertised.
    How on earth are people supposed to answer those questions?

    "Answers" to this thread are just guesses btw.


  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hearsay and conjecture are types of evidence your honour

    conjecture isnt a type of evidence, its an opinion without sufficient evidence.

    just saying.........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,880 ✭✭✭razorgil


    i thought that tent was in galway?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    Hearsay and conjecture are types of evidence your honour

    Heresy!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭Firewalkwithme


    bubblypop wrote: »
    conjecture isnt a type of evidence, its an opinion without sufficient evidence.

    just saying.........

    Have you ever watched The Simpsons?

    just asking.......


  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    if people with no experience are never offered a job how can they ever get any experience.............


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    bubblypop wrote: »
    conjecture isnt a type of evidence, its an opinion without sufficient evidence.

    just saying.........


    You're doing it wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,850 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    anynews14 wrote: »
    A Dublin public hospital hired a scientist with no experience. She had just finished her degree a couple of weeks earlier. I have loads of friends with Med Lab Science Degrees and they all either can't get Med Lab jobs, work abroad or work in industrial labs.

    1. Why did the Dublin Hospital hire someone with no experience who had just finished college a couple of weeks earlier? Why did nobody who had experience get hired?

    2. Why wasn't the job advertised? I was on that hospital's website for external candidates all the time and never saw the job advertised.

    I can't put up a link to the woman in question. I have seen photos of her graduation (Class of 2013) and she started working in a State Hospital at the end of the Summer 2013. The hospital don't put such details online but I saw her graduation photos and work details. She was not there on jobbridge.

    What prompted you to enquire here at just before midnight tonight, after such a time lapse? Would it be possible that the hospital wanted to hire a newly graduated person for the position?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    bubblypop wrote: »
    conjecture isnt a type of evidence, its an opinion without sufficient evidence.

    just saying.........



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭IrishEyes19


    not trying to be a smartass here, but why do you think you know better than the people who hired her? Perhaps she was the perfect person for the job, her qualifications, recommendations that accompanied her previous placements may have been excellent. Fair enough who you know is something that occurs a lot these days, but you seem very put out by this.

    for instance you didnt see the job advertised so what are the job particulars, perhaps this hospital has a policy of giving recent graduates a chance to get experience. Is she getting paid or is this an internship, as you said if you didnt see any advertisement for this, how can you be sure this wasnt a graduate opportunity.

    And clearly she does have experience, OP, working in a state hospital at the end of the year is still experience. I'd say move on and be happy for the girl, she clearly did something right and finally graduates are getting job opportunities. Same thing might happen for you or your friends,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭Firewalkwithme


    anynews14 wrote: »
    I can't put up a link to the woman in question. I have seen photos of her graduation (Class of 2013) and she started working in a State Hospital at the end of the Summer 2013. The hospital don't put such details online but I saw her graduation photos pictured with her mother. I saw her graduation photos from Summer 2013, she is 22 and from the Third World but studied in Dublin.

    :eek: WTF has that got to do with anything? Racist much?

    Also, try replying to the thread instead of constantly re-editing your OP, it helps the flow of discussion....


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    anynews14 wrote: »
    A Dublin public hospital hired a scientist with no experience. She had just finished her degree a couple of weeks earlier. She was not there on jobbridge I have loads of friends with Med Lab Science Degrees and they all either can't get Med Lab jobs, work abroad or work in industrial labs.

    1. Why did the Dublin Hospital hire someone with no experience who had just finished college a couple of weeks earlier? Why did nobody who had experience get hired?

    2. Why wasn't the job advertised? I was on that hospital's website for external candidates all the time and never saw the job advertised. All jobs should be advertised. It should be still advertised even if it was a graduate role as other graduates would like to apply.

    I can't put up a link to the woman in question. I have seen photos of her graduation (Class of 2013) and she started working in a State Hospital at the end of the Summer 2013. The hospital don't put such details online but I saw her graduation photos pictured with her mother. I saw her graduation photos from Summer 2013, she is 22 and from the Third World but studied in Dublin.

    She's from the same world as the rest of us. The term most people use now is developing world. It doesn't sound so diminishing.

    She might also not be working for the hospital itself, which is why you may not have seen the job advertised. She might be working for a private company using hospital facilities in a research capacity.

    She might also just be a better bet for the job than you are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭IrishEyes19


    Candie wrote: »
    She's from the same world as the rest of us. The term most people use now is developing world. It doesn't sound so diminishing.

    She might also not be working for the hospital itself, which is why you may not have seen the job advertised. She might be working for a private company using hospital facilities in a research capacity.

    She might also just be a better bet for the job than you are.

    completely agree with this, no one is entitled to a job over someone else. The most suitable candidate will be chosen and quite often traits and personality can win over experience and skills. OP, your post reeks of bitterness and a sense of entitlement over someone you don't even know, never mind not even knowing the details of the job itself


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    How many times has the OP been edited at this stage?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭Firewalkwithme


    anynews14 wrote: »
    I can't put up a link to the woman in question. I have seen photos of her graduation (Class of 2013) and she started working in a State Hospital at the end of the Summer 2013. The hospital don't put such details online but I saw her graduation photos pictured with her mother. I saw her graduation photos from Summer 2013, she is 22 and from the Developing World but studied in Dublin.

    STOP EDITING YOUR OP!!!!! :mad:

    Reply to what we are saying, perhaps even using a quote.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭Firewalkwithme


    How many times has the OP been edited at this stage?

    At least 3 times, possibly more.

    Edit: She just did it again while I was posting that so I thought I'd get in on the act.

    Why don't we all just edit our posts instead of replying and let's see how confusing we can make this thread become :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    anynews14 wrote: »
    A Dublin public hospital hired a scientist with no experience. She had just finished her degree a couple of weeks earlier. She was not there on jobbridge and is directly employed by the hospital. I have loads of friends with Med Lab Science Degrees and they all either can't get Med Lab jobs, work abroad or work in industrial labs.

    1. Why did the Dublin Hospital hire someone with no experience who had just finished college a couple of weeks earlier? Why did nobody who had experience get hired?

    2. Why wasn't the job advertised? I was on that hospital's website for external candidates all the time and never saw the job advertised. All jobs should be advertised. It should be still advertised even if it was a graduate role as other graduates would like to apply.

    I can't put up a link to the woman in question. I have seen photos of her graduation (Class of 2013) and she started working in a State Hospital at the end of the Summer 2013. The hospital don't put such details online but I saw her graduation photos pictured with her mother. I saw her graduation photos from Summer 2013, she is 22 and from the Developing World but studied in Dublin.

    Maybe she was the best person for the job but this is not always the case in the public sector.

    Nepotism does exist in Irish society but thankfully it is largely free in the science industry. That said I have known under qualified people getting jobs in hospital labs through contacts. A biochemistry lab in a hospital is where they test values of certain molecules eg cholesterol, urea, uric acid and biomarkers for cancer and other diseases eg P53. If you get this wrong it's not unrealistic to say you're endangering patient's lives. I would hope that people wouldn't endanger other people's lives just to give a friend a job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    anynews14 wrote: »
    I saw her graduation photos from Summer 2013, she is 22 and from the Developing World but studied in Dublin.

    We need clear concise facts, is she hot?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 anynews14


    Actually, she is hot but there are lots of hot women who can't get a job in Hospital Labs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭Firewalkwithme


    anynews14 wrote: »
    Actually, she is hot but there are lots of hot women who can't get a job in Hospital Labs.

    Congratulations. You have learned how to use boards properly. It took a while but we got there in the end. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    anynews14 wrote: »
    Actually, she is hot but there are lots of hot women who can't get a job in Hospital Labs.

    Well why do you think she got the job? Is it as a clinical biochemist?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 anynews14


    I think she got hired as she knew someone or maybe a family member could have known someone.
    I can't think of any other reason for hiring someone with no experience when loads of people with experience would have loved the job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    anynews14 wrote: »
    I think she knew someone.

    Does she has a facebook account?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭Firewalkwithme


    anynews14 wrote: »
    I think she knew someone.

    You think?

    Do you know that?

    Do you have any evidence to back up that assertion or is it just based on the jealousy, bitterness and racism you have shown so far here?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 anynews14


    There is no way I am giving out her details.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    anynews14 wrote: »
    I think she got hired as she knew someone

    I think she thinks you're jealous.



    Am I doing it right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭Firewalkwithme


    OP is a racist or a xenophobe.

    Take a look at another one of her threads:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=89205641


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭realweirdo


    Pointless thread. There is obviously more to this than meets the eye. And she was probably hot as someone previously mentioned. People have to start somewhere in jobs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 anynews14


    This was one of the few people that got hired in Med Labs in a State Hospital in Ireland in the last year. I thought it was strange she had no experience.


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  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    realweirdo wrote: »
    Pointless thread. There is obviously more to this than meets the eye. And she was probably hot as someone previously mentioned. People have to start somewhere in jobs.

    Or maybe she was just better at her job. I don't know why anyone would assume she got it because she's hot over she got it because she's good at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭tritium


    Candie wrote: »
    Or maybe she was just better at her job. I don't know why anyone would assume she got it because she's hot over she got it because she's good at it.

    Maybe because of the lack of any experience or interview process. Thought its more likely she's knows someone than is hot

    If it bothers the op so much they'd be better contacting the hospital or the papers than AH (unliky either of those will actually do anything though)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,779 ✭✭✭up for anything


    OP is a racist or a xenophobe.

    Take a look at another one of her threads:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=89205641


    It strikes me that this thread, along with the other one you posted, are just designed to incite other posters to hatred of foreigners. There is absolutely no proof offered to underpin the OPs. A poor effort by a Stormfront plant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Ms Pejorative


    anynews14 wrote: »
    1. Why did the Dublin Hospital hire someone with no experience who had just finished college a couple of weeks earlier? Why did nobody who had experience get hired?

    Just because she's a new grad doesn't mean she has no experience.

    Also, maybe she did know someone. Many and maybe most people use connections of some kind or other to get on. Are you saying you wouldn't exploit a contact if you had the chance, OP?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,726 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    Why is everyone focused on the fact that she may be more qualified/suited to the job? The fact is the job was not advertised, and there was no interview process. This leads me to believe (and the OP I guess) she was hired because she/her family knew someone high up the chain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Why is everyone focused on the fact that she may be more qualified/suited to the job? The fact is the job was not advertised, and there was no interview process. This leads me to believe (and the OP I guess) she was hired because she/her family knew someone high up the chain.

    The fact is there are NO FACTS!


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I know somewhere that's currently advertising for medical scientist positions :)

    Must let all my third world relatives know about them.


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