Wednesday - Day 2 - Cheltenham 2014

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Thoughts on Captain Conan?

kerry betting guy

Okey this is what im thinking of betting on in tomorrows card any thoughts:

Cant see Faugheen losing in the first
thinking sam winner each way in the second
Dunguib in the third
sizing europe each way in the 4th
and baltazar king in race five.

UrbanSea

The most over priced horse of the day. Have backed Orgilgo Bay at 33s for the Fred Winter. Beat Clarcam off levels when comfortably winning his hurdling debut on decent ground. Receives 6lbs from him tomorrow, expect a different horse than the one beaten last twice back on good going

Johner

Think Faugheen will hack up.

Soft Falling Rain

€1 L15 - Red Sherlock, Don Cossack, Sire De Grugy, Golantilla.

Likely my lot for tomorrow
tomorrow.

dirkmeister

2 bets for me tomorrow



Faugheen win
Bailey Green ew

Slattsy

Johner wrote: »

Think Faugheen will hack up.

Cant have Red Sherlock, dont rancy Mullin' other yolk or Royal Boy. Just cant find anything worth taking him on.

Is Faugheen a lump job?

Rock Lesnar

Just had a decent size bet on Carlingford Lough tomorrow, love the horse. I 1st backed him in Galway in 2012 i think, and have followed him ever since.

TheMilkyPirate

Only 3 catch my eye tomorrow namely Dunguib Red sherlock and Balthazar king.

ste2010

Slattsy wrote: »

Cant have Red Sherlock, dont rancy Mullin' other yolk or Royal Boy. Just cant find anything worth taking him on.

Is Faugheen a lump job?

His form with josses hill stacked up nicely today

Slattsy

ste2010 wrote: »

His form with josses hill stacked up nicely today

Bumper form.... take with a pinch of salt.

ste2010

Nice to see McCoy taking the ride on definitely red tomorrow. Can't imagine the 25's will last much longer on this severely overpriced horse

HankSchrader

ste2010 wrote: »

His form with josses hill stacked up nicely today

Just spotted that myself. Beat him by 22L before. Currently 5/2.

ste2010

Slattsy wrote: »

Bumper form.... take with a pinch of salt.

Regardless of it being a bumper . 23l's on the bridle..beats the same horse who came 2nd in the supreme

ste2010

Fancy get me out of here to win the coral tomorrow and reel back the years

fatalll

My Nap
Carlingford Lough in RSA

others
Faugheen in 1st
Avricka Legionnere 15:20
Shaneshill 17:15

nuckeythompson

Cheltenham(Weds) 13:30 - Red Sherlock Lucky15 9/2 15.00 Open Pending
Cheltenham(Weds) 14:05 - Outright Betting O'Faolains Boy 14/1 Open
Cheltenham(Weds) 14:40 - Outright Betting Kaylif Aramis 16/1 Open
Cheltenham(Weds) 16:40 - Outright Betting Dawalan 8/1 Open

now thats a lucky 15

3ndahalfof6

1:30 COCKTAILS AT DAWN 50/1

2:05 LE BEC 14/1

2:40 MAGNIFIQUE ETOILE 25/1

3:20 CAPTAIN CONAN 5/1

4:00 A STRAY SHOT 25/1

4:40 HAWK HIGH 33/1

5:15 ROYAL VACATION 33/1

MoscowFlyer

Captain Conan might be the bet of the festival

kiers47

MoscowFlyer wrote: »

Captain Conan might be the bet of the festival

His price is shocking!!

Francie Barrett

My festival NAP Big Shu in the cross country has drifted out to as much as 5/1 and I have gone in again on him. Unless it falls, I just cannot see it finishing out of the places, so it can be done EW for small profit even if it only places.

For the bumper I already had my horse (Golantilla at 16/1) picked out on the Antepost market. If there was ever a plot horse in this festival, then this is surely it. Everything I have see from this horse and Tony Martin and some people who know a bit about the yard suggests that this horse is going to put in a very good performance tomorrow.

Also have Clondaw Kaempfer in the Coral Cup. Horse hated the poor ground that it has run over during the Winter and noises from McCain's suggest that conditions should actually suit tomorrow. Have been watching this one for awhile though and for me with good ground tomorrow, it's in the last chance saloon if it's going to deliver.

Trixie (10 stake) to win €14,175 - feel that my fancies tomorrow are my strongest conviction picks of the festival.

handsfree

lt cl 10
don cossack 12
waheeb 16
arvika 9
big shu
Goodwood mirage 10
killtullagh vic (not decided)

confused smu

Corrin wood in the RSA chase, if you look a this horse last race, it jumps like a stag, beautiful to watch, if it jumps like that tomorrow then it should take home the money e/w 10/1 . don't fancy anything else at moment, Good luck everyone

qwabercd

Faugheen
Kaylif Aramis
Wishfull thinking (AP at 33/1)
Big Shu
Astre De La Cour (really really like 28s here on Coral)
Value at risk

Finding it difficult to make a pick in the RSA. Have a small AP bet on Ballycasey. Think i might add Smad Place to the team.

Johner

Well be backing Ballycasey at 6/1. Was very impressed with the way he went about things last month, I think 6/1 is a great price.

Rock Lesnar

I might have a few euro each way on Lieutenent Colonel in the 1st, roughly 5 lengths 2nd to Vautour and 4 lengths 2nd to wicklow brave looks good form after today.

flashjohn

Is it appropiate say I blew my conkers today? 300 notes

Slattsy

Johner wrote: »

Well be backing Ballycasey at 6/1. Was very impressed with the way he went about things last month, I think 6/1 is a great price.

He's tomorrow's Jezki to me!!
Backing him all year.

Smad Place the danger.

UrbanSea

UrbanSea wrote: »

The most over priced horse of the day. Have backed Orgilgo Bay at 33s for the Fred Winter. Beat Clarcam off levels when comfortably winning his hurdling debut on decent ground. Receives 6lbs from him tomorrow, expect a different horse than the one beaten last twice back on good going

Very well backed 12s in places


Golantilla and Le Bec my other two.

but1er

How will ballycasey come back after the awful fall in the schooling, I wouldn't touch it

ft9

ffs

Slattsy

Not ideal but nowt ye can do.
Mullins had enough time to school him since, he'll be grand so he will. Be grand.

ft9

but1er wrote: »

How will ballycasey come back after the awful fall in the schooling, I wouldn't touch it

What was awful about it?

The_Kew_Tour

Gevrey Chambertin is a very interesting runner for Pipe yard tomorrow. Im going forgive last run and think he is big price ew 33/1

BumperD

but1er wrote: »

How will ballycasey come back after the awful fall in the schooling, I wouldn't touch it

It wasn't that bad at all.

cruais

Here are my choices...

Red Sherlock
Wish full thinking
Shaneshill
Big shu

Now ive another decider to do. Do I bet separate or do doubles trixies etc...

What does anyone recommend?

mdwexford

but1er wrote: »

How will ballycasey come back after the awful fall in the schooling, I wouldn't touch it

Rule Supreme fell in his Leopardstown schooling before going on to win the 2004 RSA for Mullins.

Its not ideal but he can still win after it.

Francie Barrett

cruais wrote: »

Here are my choices...

Red Sherlock
Wish full thinking
Shaneshill
Big shu

Now ive another decider to do. Do I bet separate or do doubles trixies etc...

What does anyone recommend?

If you do a lucky 15 with Paddy Power and you only get 1 winner, you get double the odds. So if Big Shu wins at 5/1 for example, you'll get back 2/3rds of your stake. Since it's Cheltenham, I would also whack all those selections into a €2 accumulator, just in case.

MonkstownHoop

Big Shu @ 9/2
Captain Conan @ 5/1
Dell' Arca @ 12/1 e/w
Carlingford Lough @ 8/1 e/w
Faugheen @ 9/4
Katgary @ 9/1 e/w

Small Mullins Tricast in the last for divilment

NaiveMelodies

Don Cossack- biggest bet of the week, so much ability lets hope he relishes the trip.

Have Killulltagh Vic and backed Golantilla a while back- very hopeful the former can give me a good run for my money, lovely turn of gears LTO. Can't see Golantilla improving the required amount but still have a tiny bit of hope.

Captain Conan/Wishful thinking in the Champion Chase.

Best of luck.

newuser89

Has anybody else got an eye on annacotty in the rsa
Looking through its form
He has beat present view (won listed handicap today)giving away 5 pounds
2 starts ago blinkers went on and he beat green flag who ran 4th In another race and last time out was only just beat by Indian castle giving him weight.
I think he will be best of the English but can't compare to the irish

Niallers87

What do people think of Sizing Europes chances tomorrow?

bobwp

UrbanSea wrote: »

The most over priced horse of the day. Have backed Orgilgo Bay at 33s for the Fred Winter. Beat Clarcam off levels when comfortably winning his hurdling debut on decent ground. Receives 6lbs from him tomorrow, expect a different horse than the one beaten last twice back on good going

he looks well in on his flat rating and looks as this has been along term aim even before he jumped a hurdle il have a few quid ,

mailburner

couldnt decide on sdg but coral going 4s from 8.30am (20max)

not a mention here
I did lump on him when kid cassidy beat him so I am
a bit wary but he's looked awful good away from chelt...mmm

Letyourselfgo

Some tough ones tomorrow, so went for this 100/1. Hopefully I get some kind of run for my money.

newuser89

Niallers87 wrote: »

What do people think of Sizing Europes chances tomorrow?

A lot of people think he is past it but I don't .
Bad ride the last day in bad ground and the race before that was 3 miles and he never got 3 miles.
On his first start of the season he beat bailey green which is fair enough but he is a better horse at cheltenham on the good ground and I think he has a massive chance because of the lack of star quality in this field

mike65

Utter guesswork really

1.30 4 - Royal Boy
2.05 1 - Ballycasey
2.40 22 - Bayan
3.20 7 - Sire De Grugy
4.00 1 - Balthazar King
4.40 13 - Katgary
5.15 17 - Value At Risk

ste2010

Niallers87 wrote: »

What do people think of Sizing Europes chances tomorrow?

Personally I've asked myself 2 questions on this race. What's it going to take to win it. Probably a run to 169 would do the job. Which horses have the capability of reaching a rating like that tomorrow unexposed - horses which is very little of the field, potentially captain Conan marginally unexposed, hinterland, special tiara, module.
I can't See any of them running to 169 tomorrow.
Exposed horses that could potentially run to that rating - Sir D'grugy and Sizing Europe. I laughed at the SDG price
Of 9/4 but when you start to go through the race even discounting the fact it's not his fav track I am left with him and sizing Europe. SE ran over trips that didn't suit with tactics that didn't suit and ground that didn't suit at tracks where he has never shown his best all season.
I personally think its between these 2 tomorrow and at the prices and considering the conditions I think we could be on for shock veteran result
Tomorrow

Niallers87

newuser89 wrote: »

A lot of people think he is past it but I don't .
Bad ride the last day in bad ground and the race before that was 3 miles and he never got 3 miles.
On his first start of the season he beat bailey green which is fair enough but he is a better horse at cheltenham on the good ground and I think he has a massive chance because of the lack of star quality in this field

Thanks for that, i think this has been aim all year so at 12/1 hes one i may go with, as nothing else really stands out

Niallers87

Seems to be a bit of confidence behind Sizing!!

mdwexford

12 year olds don't win championship races.

He may place seeing as it's a poor renewal, still doubt it though.