aer lingus strike

itsirishfarmer

whats your plan if aer lingus goes on strike

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/transport-and-tourism/ministers-urge-siptu-to-call-off-planned-aer-lingus-strike-1.1708643

Wompa1

Go to work

Frosty McSnowballs

Continue not giving a fuq

Charlie19

Things cant be that bad, they have a sale on at the moment.

Kippure

itsirishfarmer wrote: »

whats your plan if aer lingus goes on strike

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/transport-and-tourism/ministers-urge-siptu-to-call-off-planned-aer-lingus-strike-1.1708643

Jhcx

gonna continue living life, getting drunk and doing lots of other stuff cause i'll be out of the country and not givin a damn

JuliusCaesar

Stay in the country.

opinionated3

Probably be no strike in the end. Government will bend over to give them what they need to sustain their pensions. ..... While continuing to ignore those in the private sector who are being bullied into handing over their (fully funded) pension funds. ... This is modern Ireland. A high tax- kill the small guy- look after the rich guy kinda country. Shameful

kneemos

Get the bus.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Carry on..carry on...


What does it matter if they strike and what we here will do?

A thread just for the sake of it!

Hopefully get stuck in America. I'll be gone before the strike starts \o/

Arthur Beesley

itsirishfarmer wrote: »

whats your plan if aer lingus goes on strike

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/transport-and-tourism/ministers-urge-siptu-to-call-off-planned-aer-lingus-strike-1.1708643

Nothing planned yet, OP. What about yourself?

Sir Humphrey Appleby

More worried about the DAA going on strike, I booked Lufthansa to avoid the Aer Lingus strike but if the DAA go on strike the airport will close anyway.

crockholm

How fcuking unpatriotic that union has become.

suicide_circus

crockholm wrote: »

How fcuking unpatriotic that union has become.

unions here are run almost entirely for the benefit of their board of management (national executive officers) and a handful of their oldest and best paid members.

crockholm

suicide_circus wrote: »

unions here are run almost entirely for the benefit of their board of management (national executive officers) and a handful of their oldest and best paid members.

I know enough about the cnuts-I was told that in order to work for a Company(private sector) I would have to join siptu.

For 2 years we paid them without them ever meeting with us and when 90 of the 110 strong workforce got the boot just Before Xmas 2008,no union man ever showed up to offer support or give info.

When the sword eventually fell on me,only the Xmas letters that referred to me as "comrade" stopped coming.

They are the worst of the sleveens in this country.

Eight Ball

Irish people don't do strikes. A deal as always is reached by our brown envelope union reps.

maryishere

Just fly Ryanair instead. They are not selfish p**** who put their own pensions above your rights as a customer. I cannot understand how people still fly with the aviation version of CIE.

Elessar

This will never go ahead. SIPTU don't have the guts. I absolutely guarantee you the airports will never close because of a strike.

opinionated3

maryishere wrote: »

Just fly Ryanair instead. They are not selfish p**** who put their own pensions above your rights as a customer. I cannot understand how people still fly with the aviation version of CIE.

That's a laughable statement. ....ryanair are the most selfish company around. Hate flying with them. Staff look like they don't give a crap most of the time. How about praising the aer lingus staff for at least attempting to stand up for themselves? Granted an airport closure is not ideal but how else do you get your bosses attention? Most managers/ceo's in this country piss over their employees any chance they get. .... Maybe it's time to say enough is enough?

No Pants

crockholm wrote: »

How fcuking unpatriotic that union has become.

I didn't know that was part of the union sub.

.jacksparrow.

opinionated3 wrote: »

That's a laughable statement. ....ryanair are the most selfish company around. Hate flying with them. Staff look like they don't give a crap most of the time. How about praising the aer lingus staff for at least attempting to stand up for themselves? Granted an airport closure is not ideal but how else do you get your bosses attention? Most managers/ceo's in this country piss over their employees any chance they get. .... Maybe it's time to say enough is enough?

The Ryanair staff look like they don't care...

Boohoo.

Can never understand the Ryanair hate, cheap and get you were you want on time.

People expect 5 star service, it's like getting on a bus simple as that.

downonthefarm

Does this mean veraddddekkker and co won't get to go on their free paddy day holidays

Woodpecker1

maryishere wrote: »

Just fly Ryanair instead. They are not selfish p**** who put their own pensions above your rights as a customer. I cannot understand how people still fly with the aviation version of CIE.

I dont think Ryanair are allowed to join a union.
That's why the staff get screwed on hours and pay .
Maybe it is why staff are always in a bad mood when you board the aircraft.



This strike is silly though.

Over a pension that may or may not pay out anyway. And contributions that the company can not afford to make.
The Union better think twice before they cause terrible damage to the airline and the redundancies of the people that are paying the union fees.

sullivlo

maryishere wrote: »

Just fly Ryanair instead. They are not selfish p**** who put their own pensions above your rights as a customer. I cannot understand how people still fly with the aviation version of CIE.

Because it's the DAA striking too so Ryanair won't be let fly.

Pumpkinseeds

Irish unions holding the travelling public to ransom yet again. Do away with company pensions for any new employees and this crap won't happen. A lot of people have taken a big hit in pensions and wages but they don't get to bring the country to a standstill.

Peregrine

opinionated3 wrote: »

Probably be no strike in the end. Government will bend over to give them what they need to sustain their pensions. ..... While continuing to ignore those in the private sector who are being bullied into handing over their (fully funded) pension funds. ... This is modern Ireland. A high tax- kill the small guy- look after the rich guy kinda country. Shameful

How is Aer Lingus the public sector?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

opinionated3 wrote: »

Probably be no strike in the end. Government will bend over to give them what they need to sustain their pensions. ..... While continuing to ignore those in the private sector who are being bullied into handing over their (fully funded) pension funds. ... This is modern Ireland. A high tax- kill the small guy- look after the rich guy kinda country. Shameful

How can the government give them anything? The government is a minority shareholder. This is a private company and not part of the public sector.
More rubbishing by people who don't even understand a basic starting point like the difference between private and public sector.

This is a private sector battle to protect pensions. So do you now support them????

jescart

I've never flown with aer lingus for this exact reason, every year, sometimes twice a year they threaten strike. Yes yes I know this is a siptu strike but it directly involves aer lingus and a lot of the threats over the last 5 years have been exclusively aer lingus. I don't know why anyone would book a flight with them or plan a holiday a few months in advance, it's like a game of roulette whether your flight will be affected by strike action or not. And they are certainly not the cheapest airline, especially for US travel.

jescart

Marcos Crooked Marrow wrote: »

How can the government give them anything? The government is a minority shareholder. This is a private company and not part of the public sector.
More rubbishing by people who don't even understand a basic starting point like the difference between private and public sector.

This is a private sector battle to protect pensions. So do you now support them????

Irish governments do have a history of punishing the tax payer with private sector debt in fairness. Anglo and Quinn direct come to mind.

opinionated3

Marcos Crooked Marrow wrote: »

How can the government give them anything? The government is a minority shareholder. This is a private company and not part of the public sector.
More rubbishing by people who don't even understand a basic starting point like the difference between private and public sector.

This is a private sector battle to protect pensions. So do you now support them????

Yes. I'm stuck in one such dispute as well. Although in my case it comes down to corporate greed than anything else. Jobs at risk but yet not one local td has stepped in to at least try and help. ...

maryishere

Woodpecker1 wrote: »

I dont think Ryanair are allowed to join a union.
That's why the staff get screwed on hours and pay .

99% of Ryanair staff do not want to join a union because they are better paid than those in Air Lingus. Plus they save on union dues, which only go towards the overinflated pay and pensions of bearded bretheren in the unions.

Never fly with air lingus or they may only go on strike and let you down.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

maryishere wrote: »

99% of Ryanair staff do not want to join a union because they are better paid than those in Air Lingus. Plus they save on union dues, which only go towards the overinflated pay and pensions of bearded bretheren in the unions.

Never fly with air lingus or they may only go on strike and let you down.

Curious! How do you arrive at the 99% figure, as it conflicts with something I have here? Just curious. Did you just pluck it from the air or has there been a sharp change in opion among Ryanair staff in the past 3 years?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

crockholm wrote: »

How fcuking unpatriotic that union has become.

A strange comment indeed. Why should a trade union be patriot? It's hardly what the members look for in representation. Plus, where does patriotism come in to the dispute in the first place?

COYW

I'm flying United Airlines. I have three seats to myself on the way over. I hope they don't end up switching passengers to my flight. Years ago I was scheduled to fly with Aer Lingus to Budapest when they were on strike. I got put onto a Ryanair flight instead.

crockholm

Marcos Crooked Marrow wrote: »

A strange comment indeed. Why should a trade union be patriot? It's hardly what the members look for in representation. Plus, where does patriotism come in to the dispute in the first place?

Not strange in the slightest.And I think I would be too embarrassed to explain the rest if you needed it to be explained to you.:)

Sandwlch

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

How is Aer Lingus the public sector?

They are a bit of both really. A private company, partly publicly owned, with much of its workforce still living with the mindset of and that they are a public company. Its the nub of the problem really.
That the company has a 'Director of Change and Enagagement' speaks volumes about the persistence of their legacy issues.

Sandwlch

Woodpecker1 wrote: »

I dont think Ryanair are allowed to join a union.
That's why the staff get screwed on hours and pay are paid the correct market rate for their jobs.

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ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

crockholm wrote: »

Not strange in the slightest.And I think I would be too embarrassed to explain the rest if you needed it to be explained to you.:)

I think it a paricularly strange angle to take. Patriotic? Would a supermarket going on strick be unpatriotic, what about a cafe at the airport? Aer Lingus is no longer the national carrier. Patriotism has nothing to do with it?

Don,'t be embarrassed on my account as at my age nothing embarrases me any more, please feel free to explain.

Capt'n Midnight

I know people who have cancelled plans to come here because of this.

323

itsirishfarmer wrote: »

whats your plan if aer lingus goes on strike

Carry on as normal.

Air France/KLM
British Airways
Lufthansa
SAS


Do not fly with Aer Lingus unless absolutely nothing else available for last 10 years or so.

JTMan

323 wrote: »

Carry on as normal.

Air France/KLM
British Airways
Lufthansa
SAS


Do not fly with Aer Lingus unless absolutely nothing else available for last 10 years or so.

It is the DAA going on strike that will have a much greater effect than Aer Lingus going on strike.

Despite the government intervention, there is no sign of SIPTU pulling out of destroying the weekends of many.

end of the road

opinionated3 wrote: »

Probably be no strike in the end. Government will bend over to give them what they need to sustain their pensions. ..... While continuing to ignore those in the private sector who are being bullied into handing over their (fully funded) pension funds. ... This is modern Ireland. A high tax- kill the small guy- look after the rich guy kinda country. Shameful

more of the usual "poor little private sector" rubbish, yawn

end of the road

crockholm wrote: »

How fcuking unpatriotic that union has become.

such rubbish, their looking after their members like their supposed to

end of the road

maryishere wrote: »

Just fly Ryanair instead. They are not selfish p**** who put their own pensions above your rights as a customer. I cannot understand how people still fly with the aviation version of CIE.

more daily mail style bull, why wouldn't you try protect yourself first? any right thinking person would.

czechlin

I'm going away for couple of days but will be back before the strike so it shouldn't affect me. If it did I'd be mightily pissed off but my dad would be more likely the happiest man on earth

end of the road

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

Irish unions holding the travelling public to ransom yet again. Do away with company pensions for any new employees and this crap won't happen. A lot of people have taken a big hit in pensions and wages but they don't get to bring the country to a standstill.

more crap, many other companies you can fly with, unless the DAA go out also which i believe is happening, one has to do what they can to make sure they have enough to live off when they retire, if it means they strike and we suffer, so be it, its for the greater good

end of the road

jescart wrote: »

I've never flown with aer lingus for this exact reason, every year, sometimes twice a year they threaten strike. Yes yes I know this is a siptu strike but it directly involves aer lingus and a lot of the threats over the last 5 years have been exclusively aer lingus. I don't know why anyone would book a flight with them or plan a holiday a few months in advance, it's like a game of roulette whether your flight will be affected by strike action or not. And they are certainly not the cheapest airline, especially for US travel.

because maybe people like the service? same with those who fly with ryanair who offers a cheep as chips bus style service, not my cup of tea but people like them, fine

end of the road

maryishere wrote: »

99% of Ryanair staff do not want to join a union because they are better paid than those in Air Lingus. Plus they save on union dues, which only go towards the overinflated pay and pensions of bearded bretheren in the unions.

Never fly with air lingus or they may only go on strike and let you down.

turned down for a job there were we? sounds like it from your bitterness, strikes happen, part of life, they don't happen for the laugh, its the last tool in the box

Idbatterim

more crap, many other companies you can fly with, unless the DAA go out also which i believe is happening, one has to do what they can to make sure they have enough to live off when they retire, if it means they strike and we suffer, so be it, its for the greater good

I am sure they would be entitled to our very generous state pensions, open to correction if I am wrong on this point..

Cian92

maryishere wrote: »

[Ryanair] are better paid than those in Air Lingus.

HA!

I presume you have the correct stats to back that up.