2014 Open sea swim calendar

mad m

It's only a provisional but may be useful to someone.



31may Bob bushell ( but organiser stated last night this maybe moved)
1 June Glenalbyn ( sandy cove harbour)
2 June Sandycove SC( butt bridge swim down to new bridge like NAC, finish Jeannie Johnson)
7 June NAC ( Docklands )
8June Meath masters (loch lene)
14 June Garda Sc ( portmarnock)
15 June NDWS. ( bull wall)
20 June Templeogue sc ( sea point)
21 June. ( no one asked for this date, but bob bushell maybe on at this date not sure)
22 June Wexford masters ( curracloe beach)
28 June Eastern bay ( low rock)
29 June Wicklow masters ( Wicklow bay)
5 July Half moon ( Arthur dunne south wall)
6 July Dublin Sc ( Kiliney Beach)
12 July Garda Sc ( special Olympics)
13 July Sanycove Sc ( Eddie Heron)
20 July Aerlingus ( portmarnock)
26 July Thomond swim ( limerick)
2 August Guinness ( low rock)
3 August Wicklow Sc ( Wicklow harbor )
4 August Pheonix Sc ( Kiliney beach)
9 August Corrib Sc ( salt hill Galway)
10 August Halfmoon ( Kiliney beach)
16 August Clontarf ( island swim)
17 August Halfmoon ( kilmartin cup)
19 August Clontarf ( big shelter bull wall)
23 August Lough dan 5&10 k
24 August St Vincent's ( high rock)
30 August ( no schedule swim, may change)
31 August Dun Laoghaire swim
6 sept Carraig masters ( Wendy 3 k)
7 sept ( a new race, not sure who is running it )
13 sept Liffey swim....

heavybreather

mad m wrote: »

It's only a provisional but may be useful to someone.



31may Bob bushell ( but organiser stated last night this maybe moved)
1 June Glenalbyn ( sandy cove harbour)
2 June Sandycove SC( butt bridge swim down to new bridge like NAC, finish Jeannie Johnson)
7 June NAC ( Docklands )
8June Meath masters (loch lene)
14 June Garda Sc ( portmarnock)
15 June NDWS. ( bull wall)
20 June Templeogue sc ( sea point)
21 June. ( no one asked for this date, but bob bushell maybe on at this date not sure)
22 June Wexford masters ( curracloe beach)
28 June Eastern bay ( low rock)
29 June Wicklow masters ( Wicklow bay)
5 July Half moon ( Arthur dunne south wall)
6 July Dublin Sc ( Kiliney Beach)
12 July Garda Sc ( special Olympics)
13 July Sanycove Sc ( Eddie Heron)
20 July Aerlingus ( portmarnock)
26 July Thomond swim ( limerick)
2 August Guinness ( low rock)
3 August Wicklow Sc ( Wicklow harbor )
4 August Pheonix Sc ( Kiliney beach)
9 August Corrib Sc ( salt hill Galway)
10 August Halfmoon ( Kiliney beach)
16 August Clontarf ( island swim)
17 August Halfmoon ( kilmartin cup)
19 August Clontarf ( big shelter bull wall)
23 August Lough dan 5&10 k
24 August St Vincent's ( high rock)
30 August ( no schedule swim, may change)
31 August Dun Laoghaire swim
6 sept Carraig masters ( Wendy 3 k)
7 sept ( a new race, not sure who is running it )
13 sept Liffey swim....

thanks
Im organising a swim, how would I go about adding it to the list? Is there some qualifying criteria and where would in find them?
thanks

slinky2000

Looking forward to this year already!

mad m

heavybreather wrote: »

thanks
Im organising a swim, how would I go about adding it to the list? Is there some qualifying criteria and where would in find them?
thanks

Contact the Open Sea Committee.....

http://leinsteropensea.ie/?page_id=38

It probably a bit late now as most of the calender dates are full..

mad m

FYI everyone

Dun Laoghaire Harbour swim is now on 10th August instead of 31 August.

Kurt Godel

Forgive these beginner questions, I think I know the answers but would like them clarified...

Is swim Ireland membership (or club membership?) required for these OW races?

Are they wetsuit optional or skins only?

I gather some of the (Liffey Swim for instance) are dependent on you having done qualifying swims? Does a handicap system operate? (and if so how does that work?)

How often do swims get cancelled due to cold water or swell? (I'm coming from a triathlon background where swims are cancelled all the time if there are a few waves:rolleyes:)

mad m

Kurt Godel wrote: »

Forgive these beginner questions, I think I know the answers but would like them clarified...

Is swim Ireland membership (or club membership?) required for these OW races?

Are they wetsuit optional or skins only?

I gather some of the (Liffey Swim for instance) are dependent on you having done qualifying swims? Does a handicap system operate? (and if so how does that work?)

How often do swims get cancelled due to cold water or swell? (I'm coming from a triathlon background where swims are cancelled all the time if there are a few waves:rolleyes:)

1: You have to be registered with a swim club, once you are your automatically registered with swim ireland.

2:Wetsuit is optional, but you wont be included in any prizes.

3: You have to swim 4 out of any of the swims during swim season before date of Harbour/Liffey to qualify. Handicap do operate. Kurt you will be hit with a heavy handicap because its your first race with open sea leinster? You will probably have this handicap for a few races so they can judge your swim ability and give you a fairer handicap to suit you and other swimmers.If you were to win your first race on your first swim, you wont be allowed to win it, you will be placed 2nd. The handicap system works by the weaker swimmers go first, they sometimes have a few swimmers who are A, then the next are B, then its GO which is 0:00 time, then its -0:15, -0:30 , -0:45 etc. Before a race you check in (10 euro a race, except Harbour/Liffey) they give you a handicap.

I think last season only two races were cancelled due to bad weather/no boat cover. Its the Irish weather Kurt so you know yourself. But if it gets cancelled they normally put it up on FB or some other form of social media. They don't normally cancel races due to a few swells, normally if the civil defense boats cant get out, its automatically cancelled. The Open Sea Committee insist on 3 boats for safety cover before a race goes ahead. Normally the first few races are shortened in distance because of cold water/safety.

Kurt Godel

mad m wrote: »

1: You have to be registered with a swim club, once you are your automatically registered with swim ireland.

2:Wetsuit is optional, but you wont be included in any prizes.

3: You have to swim 4 out of any of the swims during swim season before date of Harbour/Liffey to qualify. Handicap do operate. Kurt you will be hit with a heavy handicap because its your first race with open sea leinster? You will probably have this handicap for a few races so they can judge your swim ability and give you a fairer handicap to suit you and other swimmers.If you were to win your first race on your first swim, you wont be allowed to win it, you will be placed 2nd. The handicap system works by the weaker swimmers go first, they sometimes have a few swimmers who are A, then the next are B, then its GO which is 0:00 time, then its -0:15, -0:30 , -0:45 etc. Before a race you check in (10 euro a race, except Harbour/Liffey) they give you a handicap.

I think last season only two races were cancelled due to bad weather/no boat cover. Its the Irish weather Kurt so you know yourself. But if it gets cancelled they normally put it up on FB or some other form of social media. They don't normally cancel races due to a few swells, normally if the civil defense boats cant get out, its automatically cancelled. The Open Sea Committee insist on 3 boats for safety cover before a race goes ahead. Normally the first few races are shortened in distance because of cold water/safety.

Very helpful replies, thanks madm. I'm looking forward to giving a few of these a shot. Liffey swim too because I'm an unrepentant box-ticker;)

A good honest sea swim with a few waves is the only way to go. Great fun and great for reminding you you're alive. Risk and safety is something to be concerned with, but more's the pity, anything with a few waves gets cancelled in Tri (in my experience), so I hope to give a few from this calendar a shot. Thanks again.

Freddio

Kurt Godel wrote: »

Forgive these beginner questions, I think I know the answers but would like them clarified...

Is swim Ireland membership (or club membership?) required for these OW races?

Are they wetsuit optional or skins only?

I gather some of the (Liffey Swim for instance) are dependent on you having done qualifying swims? Does a handicap system operate? (and if so how does that work?)

How often do swims get cancelled due to cold water or swell? (I'm coming from a triathlon background where swims are cancelled all the time if there are a few waves:rolleyes:)

Hi,

You need to be a member of a swim Ireland affiliated club.

You can wear wetsuits in the non classics ie not in the harbour or the Liffey but you won't qualify for points or prizes, and possibly those races where you wear a wetsuit won't be allowed as qualifiers for the classics.

All races are handicapped and you can't win first prize in your first race. Slow swimmers go on go and the faster you are the more time you have to wait after go before you can start.

Races usually get cancelled if the weather reaches small craft warning or higher but the organisers will make a call on the day of a race or the evening before. Coldness would not normally be a reason for cancelling a race.

Hope this helps
Btw the feeling you have after a race is brilliant.


Edit: only seeing other replies now, sorry for repeating

okane1

I've attached the draft Munster OW session. Unlike the Leinster races, wetsuits are very welcome and are included in the prices. Some races require Swim Ireland membership, most do not - this information is included in the attached.

Most of these races/swims are in very clear water and are great craic. Test yourself by going big. No easy Leinster distances down in Munster!!!

rainbow kirby

Freddio wrote: »

You need to be a member of a swim Ireland affiliated club.

So say if I was home over the summer and wanted to try out one of the races, I'd have to join a club first?

Freddio

For the Leinster races, yes and you would have to be a paid up member of swim Ireland for the current year too.

slinky2000

rainbow kirby wrote: »

So say if I was home over the summer and wanted to try out one of the races, I'd have to join a club first?

I'm sure other clubs are doing it but I think the NAC in Dublin/Blanchardstown do membership for 40euros for the year and that gives you your Swim Ireland membership.

cjt156

rainbow kirby wrote: »

So say if I was home over the summer and wanted to try out one of the races, I'd have to join a club first?

There are other unaffiliated events, though. Killiney Bay Ironman swim and Openwaterswimmer events in Glendalough, Gougane Barrra etc. Price is a bit higher to cover safety and insurance costs but no memberships required.

MojoMaker

Is there any agreement with Triathlon Ireland in reciprocal fashion to cover these events? I know Cycling Ireland acknowledges TI for many events so folks don't have to join multiple organisations supervising some of the same sports.

SI membership on its own would be helpful, for those not wishing to tie in with a specific club (and pay twice etc).

Looking forward to a few now, that being said.

mad m

Just an update to calendar.

http://leinsteropensea.ie/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/2014-OSC-Calendar-Draft.pdf

ShineyShiney

Hi
A new swim event in Galway, Longest Day Swim, 21st June. An evening swim down The Corrib, 2.5km or 4km option.

entries open on Active.com e25.00 plus booking fee, includes bus transfer, insurance, event t-shirt and refreshments after.

The short distance is all down river while the longer course will have a 250mtrs up river start with the balance a fast blast down the river.

This is an open event, no Swim Ireland / Triathlon membership required.

Skins or Suits welcome.

thanks

Kurt Godel

Seeing as there is a sizeable amount of Triathletes who would be interested in these races, a good way to get membership of Swim Ireland is to join the new 3D Masters Swimming Club, set up as a separate entity by 3D Tri Club. You don't have to be a 3D Tri member (or TI member), but it will cost €49. You will then get a Swim Ireland membership number, access to OW training group swims (mostly Dublin based), and more importantly be surrounded by fellow wetsuit devotees who will offer understanding and sympathy as you complain of the cold and hardship of being forced to race skins;)

(I've no connection to the above besides being a member, just thought it might appeal to some from here too)

Finelli

Anyone know who is the handicapper this year?

Freddio

Finelli wrote: »

Anyone know who is the handicapper this year?

I'm led to believe its Frank

mad m

Freddio wrote: »

I'm led to believe its Frank

Who will do Franks Handicap!!!

Freddio

I'm led to believe its Frank as well

mad m

Freddio wrote: »

I'm led to believe its Frank as well

Well I've known Frank for a few years now and when dealing with him I've always found him to be fair......











Frank, give me a good handicap if your reading this:D

Freddio

mad m wrote: »

Well I've known Frank for a few years now and when dealing with him I've always found him to be fair......

I completely agree but I do think its kind of Irish that the handicapper might also be competing

mad m

Freddio wrote: »

I completely agree but I do think its kind of Irish that the handicapper might also be competing

Yeah agreed. Think though Joe Browne may do his handicap. All will be revealed tomorrow. Bloody meant to be a wash out tomorrow with heavy rain. Hope it doesn't cancel it....

2old4dacold

Can anybody suggest some of the better swims (or at least their own favourites) on this calendar?

Ideally swims that are at an easy location to find/park at, not likely to be cancelled at short notice, preferably suitable for a family day out ....

Munster swimmer looking to qualify for the Liffey, so an overnight family break is a strong possibility to get two swims in one weekend. Any advice appreciated?

mad m

2old4dacold wrote: »

Can anybody suggest some of the better swims (or at least their own favourites) on this calendar?

Ideally swims that are at an easy location to find/park at, not likely to be cancelled at short notice, preferably suitable for a family day out ....

Munster swimmer looking to qualify for the Liffey, so an overnight family break is a strong possibility to get two swims in one weekend. Any advice appreciated?

l

Dun Laoghaire is your best bet. There is two swims on 12&13 July both at Windsurfers Pier down the road from main Dun Laoghaire town or across from Seapoint if you know it? The first one is a run by Garda SC for Special Olymics and is a qualifier for Liffey and the next one is the Eddie Heron (qualifier) from Windsurfers down to Blackrock a good 2k+ straight swim and most consider this a top swim. Plus they are on at 11.30 and 12pm, Windsurfers is a lovely place and a few picnic tables and loads of parking, only thing is you will have to walk up to seapoint for a loo if stuck.

The other thing is the Eddie Heron race, you start at Windsurfers and finish at blackrock so your bag will be brought down or you can either walk back or jump on dart back to windsurfers or if your wife can drive down its not far in car....

pc11

Can people confirm that wetsuit swimmers will be welcome?

I've always been given the strong impression that they are likely to be treated with great disdain and/or be sent away with great prejudice from most Leinster swims. I don't care about prizes.

mad m

pc11 wrote: »

Can people confirm that wetsuit swimmers will be welcome?

I've always been given the strong impression that they are likely to be treated with great disdain and/or be sent away with great prejudice from most Leinster swims. I don't care about prizes.

It's like a pot gold at the end of a rainbow....myth. Your more than welcome. Just make sure your registered with a club. Also just let the handicapper know before the race your wearing a wetsuit and you know you won't be included in prizes.

mad m

First swim under the belt, happy enough with it. Cold enough but once you got going it was ok. Bit of a chop at second buoy and I got pushed a good bit left on way in by current. Frank didn't swim today. Well done to Glenalbyn for a good race.

pc11

mad m wrote: »

It's like a pot gold at the end of a rainbow....myth. Your more than welcome. Just make sure your registered with a club. Also just let the handicapper know before the race your wearing a wetsuit and you know you won't be included in prizes.

Thanks Mad_m. I'm glad to hear this. I'm still a little doubtful we would be welcomed with open arms, based on conversations with swimmers, but I'd be very happy to be proved wrong.

What is the typical entry fee for races?

pc11

Kurt Godel wrote: »

Seeing as there is a sizeable amount of Triathletes who would be interested in these races, a good way to get membership of Swim Ireland is to join the new 3D Masters Swimming Club, set up as a separate entity by 3D Tri Club. You don't have to be a 3D Tri member (or TI member), but it will cost €49. You will then get a Swim Ireland membership number, access to OW training group swims (mostly Dublin based), and more importantly be surrounded by fellow wetsuit devotees who will offer understanding and sympathy as you complain of the cold and hardship of being forced to race skins;)

(I've no connection to the above besides being a member, just thought it might appeal to some from here too)

Here's another option, you could join the Irish Long Distance Swimming Association http://www.ildsa.info/index.php/join

You could join for a year for €45 and this includes Swim Ireland membership.

There is an option to join for 3 months but I'm not sure that includes SI membership.

I'm not a member, it's just a suggestion.

mad m

pc11 wrote: »

Thanks Mad_m. I'm glad to hear this. I'm still a little doubtful we would be welcomed with open arms, based on conversations with swimmers, but I'd be very happy to be proved wrong.

What is the typical entry fee for races?

Mainly 10euro, but for charity races it's 20 and around 30 for Dun Laoghaire and Liffey swims.

mad m

Just putting this out there, to Join swim Ireland through Templeogue Masters your yearly charge is cheaper than 45 euro that ILDSA are charging, I think it's around 39euro. You can contact Brian Sweeney to register teamtsccoach@eircom.net

Kurt Godel

What a brilliant race! The water was bloody freezing at first though!:D But you soon got used to it. Nice bit of chop involved swimming between the orange bouys, and sighting off Howth Head was a nice touch. I got dragged a little left at the final section too- a combination of the current and sighting a little too far left. I was one of the last ones out- can I blame that on a too-tough first handicap, or my own abilities (lack of!);) Well done Glenalbyn Masters- can't wait for the next one!

On the wetsuit thing- this was my first time doing a swim race without the wetsuit, and I have to say it makes for a much better and freer way of racing. There were a couple of suits I saw, but the vast majority went skins. You don't notice the cold once you're swimming.

mad m

Kurt Godel wrote: »

What a brilliant race! The water was bloody freezing at first though!:D But you soon got used to it. Nice bit of chop involved swimming between the orange bouys, and sighting off Howth Head was a nice touch. I got dragged a little left at the final section too- a combination of the current and sighting a little too far left. I was one of the last ones out- can I blame that on a too-tough first handicap, or my own abilities (lack of!);) Well done Glenalbyn Masters- can't wait for the next one!
On the wetsuit thing- this was my first time doing a swim race without the wetsuit, and I have to say it makes for a much better and freer way of racing. There were a couple of suits I saw, but the vast majority went skins. You don't notice the cold once you're swimming.

Kurt what handicap did you get.? Also I was told the 2nd orange buoy came unstuck so you were swimming towards a buoy that was moving away, sure isn't it a wonder we ended up so far left:D

The suits you saw were probably those anti jelly fish suits which look like a wetsuit. Totally legal.

Kurt Godel

mad m wrote: »

Kurt what handicap did you get.? Also I was told the 2nd orange buoy came unstuck so you were swimming towards a buoy that was moving away, sure isn't it a wonder we ended up so far left:D

My handicap was 6:15. It made for an interesting first half as I got to see just how fast some of those passing sharks are in the water!

mad m

Ah it will drop like a stone in next couple of races to give you a chance, plus its to give the handicapper a chance to judge you. Only a few passed me but then again I was off course a good bit.:rolleyes:

Oh the results are up on website if you want to see your time

slinky2000

Great first race for the season, wasn't as cold as I thought once you got going. Came out mid pack but ended up 12th fastest so happy about that.

Roll on next weekend.

ocisorrenta

mad m wrote: »

Ah it will drop like a stone in next couple of races to give you a chance, plus its to give the handicapper a chance to judge you. Only a few passed me but then again I was off course a good bit.:rolleyes:

Oh the results are up on website if you want to see your time

Dunno about the "drop like a stone" business. I swam for the first time last year and got an incredulous 8mins the first day. After beating five home it only dropped to 6.30 and 6.45 for the next two races. Most people swimming the times, c29mins, I was then were under 4mins.

I suppose I'll have to reserve judgement until I open my account this year on Sunday.

mad m

ocisorrenta wrote: »

Dunno about the "drop like a stone" business. I swam for the first time last year and got an incredulous 8mins the first day. After beating five home it only dropped to 6.30 and 6.45 for the next two races. Most people swimming the times, c29mins, I was then were under 4mins.

I suppose I'll have to reserve judgement until I open my account this year on Sunday.

Well for your first sea swim you will get a high handicap, its to see what your like with times etc. going from 8min down to 6:30 is alot. But this is also based on your actual swim time. You must be a fast cookie:)

Mermaria

pc11 wrote: »

Thanks Mad_m. I'm glad to hear this. I'm still a little doubtful we would be welcomed with open arms, based on conversations with swimmers, but I'd be very happy to be proved wrong.

In Leinster region the swims are under FINA rules. However the wetsuit were allowed for medical reasons.

My suggestion is request the permission through your swimming club. However, on the day of the race, the handicapper has the last word.

There has been same issue with wetsuitters, tri mainly, aggressive toward weaker swimmers and the spirit of the handicap system. The swimming is a healthy life style for all ages. You can learn to swim before to walk and you can keep swimming when your legs are too weak for walk.

From the competitive point of view, as you should be able to swim a mile, you should be able to swim in cold or under a strong sun. The environment, acclimatization, is an important part of the sport. The use of a wetsuit is the equivalent of use of oxygen when climbing a 8k or the use of an electrical bike in an Ironman.

ILDSA has a goal to promote the OW swimming for this reason their schedule events for wetsuitters and skinners, register and non register swimmers.

Mermaria

pc11 wrote: »

There is an option to join for 3 months but I'm not sure that includes SI membership.

They removed this option for renewals. I mean you have to pay the full year if you are renewing the SI membership and half if it is your first time as SI member from one date in July.

ILDSA membership are dearer than most of SI clubs. Another option is set up your own SC. Most of the clubs have an extra for the pool sessions, to cover lost when there is little attendance.

There are two sport centres in Dublin (that I know) who have a SC membership in SI, Maveric pool (Atlantic SC I think) and Westwood. You will only have to paid the Swim Ireland fees.

If you are already register in a foreign swimming federation, you don't need to become member of SI but you have to provide evidence and permission from your swimming federation. All the minor swims are open and the major swims have separate set of prizes for visiting swimmers.

By the way, well done to all new skinnies

pc11

Mermaria wrote: »

In Leinster region the swims are under FINA rules. However the wetsuit were allowed for medical reasons.

My suggestion is request the permission through your swimming club. However, on the day of the race, the handicapper has the last word.

There has been same issue with wetsuitters, tri mainly, aggressive toward weaker swimmers and the spirit of the handicap system. The swimming is a healthy life style for all ages. You can learn to swim before to walk and you can keep swimming when your legs are too weak for walk.

From the competitive point of view, as you should be able to swim a mile, you should be able to swim in cold or under a strong sun. The environment, acclimatization, is an important part of the sport. The use of a wetsuit is the equivalent of use of oxygen when climbing a 8k or the use of an electrical bike in an Ironman.

ILDSA has a goal to promote the OW swimming for this reason their schedule events for wetsuitters and skinners, register and non register swimmers.

Ah, this is more like the attitude I was expecting. Wetsuits are not really welcome at all. In fact, we might as well be Lance Armstrong and presumably should be barred from the sport for life.

Good to know.

Mermaria

pc11 wrote: »

Ah, this is more like the attitude I was expecting. Wetsuits are not really welcome at all. In fact, we might as well be Lance Armstrong and presumably should be barred from the sport for life.

Good to know.

My suggestion is read my post more carefully.

The wetsuit are well come. What is not well come is an aptitude like the above of you.

Unfortunately in the past, same wetsuitters have causing serious incidents at all levels, even administrative/legal level.

Why do you want to take part in a sport event when you reject the international rules for that sport? Have you realised that you are actually rejecting the sport in itself?

Why a swimming federation should adapt their rules to a person who isn't really interested on swimming at all?

Have you ever seen a Leinster Swim?

The pre-go are far away from being Lance Amstrong! there are same children and people with a physical disability ... all of them with a chance to win

Be brave and take off your wetsuit

Kurt Godel

Did many here swim the NAC Masters race last night? (Couldn't make it myself). That is some savage time from Conor Turner!

Freddio

Kurt Godel wrote: »

That is some savage time from Conor Turner!

Conor was only out gunned by one other Aer Lingus Swimmer last year (I think). They take it to another level !

EDIT: I just checked howdidyouswim.com and Conor has the perfect 10 .... sorry

mad m

Kurt Godel wrote: »

Did many here swim the NAC Masters race last night? (Couldn't make it myself). That is some savage time from Conor Turner!

Water was grand. But little bit dirty at end plus some amount of bodies (150 swimmers) when your in the pack but in fairness to NAC masters they run a great race but the finish is terrible. Conor turners time is unreal. Just working out if he swam every race he would probably make a profit in prize money. Our club race in couple weeks has a prize I think of 50euro for fastest time.if only I could turn back the clock id be in the pool at birth

Hats of to Meath Masters today. Great 1.6k race, water was lovely in Loch Lene plus the free baked spud plus all the trimmings was great at the end.

slinky2000

Don't the docklands swim, was a good race. Water was grand and the sun was out.

As mentioned before the finish was terrible but it was better than last year.

I was like 12th fastest so well happy. I can only image doing a time like Conor!

mad m

@pc11

Check this out maybe for your first swim. As it says on link wetsuits welcome.

http://leinsteropensea.ie/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2014-Directors-to-Wexform-Masters-Curracloe.pdf

pc11

mad m wrote: »

@pc11

Check this out maybe for your first swim. As it says on link wetsuits welcome.

http://leinsteropensea.ie/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2014-Directors-to-Wexform-Masters-Curracloe.pdf

Thanks, but I've done many OW races, including that swim. I'm not new to OW swimming, I just haven't done one in skin.