ITV HD not working

rumplestiltskin

Hi. Just wondering has anybody else lost ITV HD on their Sky box. It was working fine on Tuesday night for the footy.

SCOOP 64

just checked, lost it as well?

rumplestiltskin

ITs strange. At least we can get the game tonight on UTV

SCOOP 64

My ITV is working but not HD.

rumplestiltskin

Yeah same here, Though the sky box just switched away from ITV 4 by itself just now!

White Heart Loon

Working for me here on an Amiko Alien 2

blade1

mine gone too:mad:

and the small preview screen gone aswell.

twinklerunner

rumplestiltskin wrote: »

Hi. Just wondering has anybody else lost ITV HD on their Sky box. It was working fine on Tuesday night for the footy.

From Digital Spy:

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1945067

blade1

twinklerunner wrote: »

From Digital Spy:

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1945067

cheers for that.
i have utv hd now but don't know for how long.

Storm 10

Can I retune it on my ferguson ariva 250 box

xii

Hopefully UTV Ireland will be in HD, early next year

MBSnr

I noticed this....

Luckily just added UTV HD
11052 H 22000 5/6

FunkyDa2

11097V 23000 gets it for me...

Peter Rhea

Storm 10 wrote: »

Can I retune it on my ferguson ariva 250 box

Yes, the Ariva doesn't have restrictions on tuning parameters like Sky box 'other channels'.

Storm 10

Peter Rhea wrote: »

Yes, the Ariva doesn't have restrictions on tuning parameters like Sky box 'other channels'.

Could you give me the freq please

dxhound2005

FunkyDa2 wrote: »

11097V 23000 gets it for me...

Also on 11068 V 23000 channel name 20800 and 20810.

http://www.flysat.com/28east.php

Gerry Wicklow

ITV HD London (10000) that was on 10832 H 22000 and
ITV HD Granada (12130) that was on 10994 H 22000 both seem to have moved.

New TP
London (21000), Granada (21010) 11097 V 23000

London (20800) & Granada (20810) are still available on 11068 V 23000

dxhound2005

Gerry Wicklow wrote: »

ITV HD London (10000) that was on 10832 H 22000 and
ITV HD Granada (12130) that was on 10994 H 22000 both seem to have moved.

New TP
London (21000), Granada (21010) 11097 V 23000

London (20800) & Granada (20810) are still available on 11068 V 23000

Four versions on 11097. London, Granada and these two.

ITV Meridian South East HD
ITV Central West HD

Gerry Wicklow

Meridian and Central moved to this TP last week.

irishfeen

Why are ITV moving them in the first instance?

White Heart Loon

irishfeen wrote: »

Why are ITV moving them in the first instance?

They are constant changes, you just don't notice, the box retunes them. Those with non-Sky boxes are constantly retuning

irishfeen

White Heart Loon wrote: »

They are constant changes, you just don't notice, the box retunes them. Those with non-Sky boxes are constantly retuning

I wonder is there a reason why they are going behind a frequency that isn't tune-able on a sky box or it it by chance?

MBSnr

irishfeen wrote: »

I wonder is there a reason why they are going behind a frequency that isn't tune-able on a sky box or it it by chance?

When the sky boxes were mandated (I think by a EU law or similar) to have to allow other channels to be added they only wrote the software to allow DVB-S transponders and a symbol rate of 22000/27500.

Sat freq technology has moved on and DVB-S2 transponders are more efficient with different symbol rate. However Sky never bothered to update their software and I don't believe they will.

Gerry Wicklow

irishfeen wrote: »

I wonder is there a reason why they are going behind a frequency that isn't tune-able on a sky box or it it by chance?

So I'm not the only suspicious one here who thought that :rolleyes:

irishfeen

MBSnr wrote: »

When the sky boxes were mandated (I think by a EU law or similar) to have to allow other channels to be added they only wrote the software to allow DVB-S transponders and a symbol rate of 22000/27500.

Sat freq technology has moved on and DVB-S2 transponders are more efficient with different symbol rate. However Sky never bothered to update their software and I don't believe they will.

Is there a specific reason why they wouldn't? - I'm sure they could also allow for recording of the "added channels" too but for some reason don't.

mike65

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Also on 11068 V 23000 channel name 20800 and 20810.

http://www.flysat.com/28east.php

My Manhattan box has this now but its a rather jumpy signal at the moment, with sound dropouts. Will see if it settles. The EGP has no info for this "channel" number.

mobpd

Gerry Wicklow wrote: »

ITV HD London (10000) that was on 10832 H 22000 and
ITV HD Granada (12130) that was on 10994 H 22000 both seem to have moved.

New TP
London (21000), Granada (21010) 11097 V 23000

London (20800) & Granada (20810) are still available on 11068 V 23000

I can only toggle between symbol rate 22.0 and 27.5
Can't select 23000 (23.0)
Any ideas?

SPAWKER

mobpd wrote: »

I can only toggle between symbol rate 22.0 and 27.5
Can't select 23000 (23.0)
Any ideas?

You cant select the symbol rate of 23 if its a sky box only 22 and 27.5 .

MBSnr

irishfeen wrote: »

Is there a specific reason why they wouldn't? - I'm sure they could also allow for recording of the "added channels" too but for some reason don't.

They could very easily amend the code but I guess it's not in their interests to update the software to allow additional symbol rates and DVB-S2 TPs. They fulfilled the EU requirement back when it was mandated that they had to and that doesn't seem to apply (or isn't being applied) to the new available TP freqs/settings. There's probably some wording that said all current freq/SR/TPs available at the time - whenever that time was - meaning DVB-S SR 22/27.5K covered all TPs on the sats present at 28East. All this written before the changes that came later.

The recording of other channels is probably a rights based issue. The fact that you can view some of them FTA is just luck of the sat. footprint. ITV and a number of other channels (as you know) aren't on the ROI EPG, so can't be recorded. If you could record them via 'Other Channels' then this defeats the purpose of not having them on the EPG so they couldn't be recorded....

kleefarr

Can't get v 23000, only the other two.

No way to fix?

grottyblotty

I could only find UTV HD, none of all the older ones work for me at all.

Here's the workaround for UTV HD


Try 11.053 H 22.0 5/6 Previous frequency has changed....again. This one gives you UTV HD works fine for now.

kleefarr

Many thanks.
As you say, working for now, but for how long I wonder.
Shame.

jester77

kleefarr wrote: »

Many thanks.
As you say, working for now, but for how long I wonder.
Shame.

Couple of weeks if this article is accurate.

kooga

i have a fta receiver as well so what is the transponder frequency for ITV HD?

MBSnr

kooga wrote: »

i have a fta receiver as well so what is the transponder frequency for ITV HD?

Astra 2F 11097.00 V DVB-S2 8PSK 23000 2/3

http://en.kingofsat.net/freqs.php?&pos=28.2E&standard=All&hdtv=1&ordre=freq&filtre=Clear

kooga

MBSnr wrote: »

Astra 2F 11097.00 V DVB-S2 8PSK 23000 2/3

http://en.kingofsat.net/freqs.php?&pos=28.2E&standard=All&hdtv=1&ordre=freq&filtre=Clear

tkscouldn't access kingofsat from work

Dr. Nick

So what are Sky telling their loyal customers about this?? They advertise ITV as being available, does this only apply to ITV HD?

muffler

Dr. Nick wrote: »

They advertise ITV as being available, does this only apply to ITV HD?

Where do they advertise this and are you saying its part of their package?

Dr. Nick

muffler wrote: »

Where do they advertise this and are you saying its part of their package?

Certainly used to be on their flyers, haven't seen it lately actually.

muffler

Dr. Nick wrote: »

Certainly used to be on their flyers, haven't seen it lately actually.

i think I seen them advertise UTV or ITV quite some time ago but it did state that available through "other channels" only.

No mention of any ITV channels on their website though.

Dr. Nick

muffler wrote: »

i think I seen them advertise UTV or ITV quite some time ago but it did state that available through "other channels" only.

No mention of any ITV channels on their website though.

Yes, always through other channels....

lertsnim

Sky never advertised UTV or ITV as being part of their package. Imagining they did will not bring the ITV HD channels back.

fr336

Praise the Lord!

radiowaves

Dr. Nick wrote: »

So what are Sky telling their loyal customers about this?? They advertise ITV as being available, does this only apply to ITV HD?

Their "loyal" customers would be well aware that ITV is not, and never has been, available on Sky (in the Irish Republic).

Sky don't need to be telling them anything.

jacob2

cant find freqency for itv hd heres freqency for utv hd 11052.75 H 22000

jacob2

a sky box is not the best to get free to air channels and a lot of newer sky boxes wont work without the card to get free to air channels thats why its called a sky box for sky

Mint Sauce

I noticed ITV HD gone as as well the other day. Using a generic FTA box, done a manual retune last night. All the ITV regionals simply display as ITV HD, or UTV or STV. Any way of working out which of the ITVs are ITV London, without having to wait for a regional weather/news broadcast.

dxhound2005

Mint Sauce wrote: »

I noticed ITV HD gone as as well the other day. Using a generic FTA box, done a manual retune last night. All the ITV regionals simply display as ITV HD, or UTV or STV. Any way of working out which of the ITVs are ITV London, without having to wait for a regional weather/news broadcast.

They should appear in the order listed on 11097 here. London is first.

http://www.flysat.com/28east.php

I did a scan of the transponder to see if their full titles had been added which they haven't. But I got two extra channels called 21000 and 21010 but with No Audio/Video. 21000 and 21010 are the SID code numbers allocated to London and Granada respectively on the Flysat information. But they are not listed there yet under these channel names.

On 11068 London and Granada are still scanning as 20800 and 20810.

Gerry Wicklow

When I scan 11097 V 23000 I get
London 21000
Granada 21010
Meridian 21020
Central 21030
All HD all clear

From KingOfSat

grottyblotty

Try 11.053 H 22.0 5/6 its 11.053, not 11.052

kooga

11097 v 23000v for itv hd london on my non freesat channels on my manahatten freesat box