skangers and pedestrian crossings

homeless student

what is the story? they always seem to be in such a hurry at pedestrian crossings, sometimes it seems like they would rather get hit by a bus crossing them than wait an extra 5 seconds for the green man. have seen a male and female skanger cross when the man is red, force traffic to stop then roar abuse at the drivers for blowing their horns at them.

jjdub1

Yes, this happens ....

dan1895

I've seen one lad outside phibsboro shopping centre purposely stepping out in front of on coming traffic. Looks like he's gotten smacked by a car on more than one occasion too.

kneemos

They don't obey the man.

Vomit

They hardly ever wait to cross the road. Plus they always need to know the time. It's almost like an instinct that they are born with- I had to walk in between a gang of about 5 of them one late night (all drunk and carrying bottles), when one screams at me, "DOO YA HAVE THE TOOOIME?", as if he was skanger-duty-bound to ask.

FollatonWood

What's worse is when they've a kid in a pushchair with them.

jester77

homeless student wrote: »

what is the story? they always seem to be in such a hurry at pedestrian crossings, sometimes it seems like they would rather get hit by a bus crossing them than wait an extra 5 seconds for the green man. have seen a male and female skanger cross when the man is red, force traffic to stop then roar abuse at the drivers for blowing their horns at them.

Have pedestrian crossing changed since I lived in Ireland? The idea used to be that traffic slows down coming up to a pedestrian crossing and stops if someone is about to cross. Respect if they cross quickly and don't hold you up for too long.

spurious

FollatonWood wrote: »

What's worse is when they've a kid in a pushchair with them.

That is used for 'testing the water' so to speak.

jester77

jester77 wrote: »

Have pedestrian crossing changed since I lived in Ireland? The idea used to be that traffic slows down coming up to a pedestrian crossing and stops if someone is about to cross. Respect if they cross quickly and don't hold you up for too long.

Well that's a pelican/zebra crossing.

There's also pedestrian crossings that usually have a red man and a pervy green man who likes to flash.

Duggy747

During the day, and in fewer numbers, the common skanger's survival instincts kick in. They must keep moving and keep a constant knowledge of their surroundings, ensuring they are never cornered and always have a means of escape lest they are being pounced upon by the predatory Gardaì.

jester77

Deleted User wrote: »

Well that's a pelican/zebra crossing.

There's also pedestrian crossings that usually have a red man and a pervy green man who likes to flash.

Ah, I see the little pervy green guys are back in Ireland!

Maybe the skangers are colour blind and can't distinguish between green and red, this could also explain their fashion sense.

Tzardine

Vomit wrote: »

They hardly ever wait to cross the road. Plus they always need to know the time. It's almost like an instinct that they are born with- I had to walk in between a gang of about 5 of them one late night (all drunk and carrying bottles), when one screams at me, "DOO YA HAVE THE TOOOIME?", as if he was skanger-duty-bound to ask.

Waiting for you to pull out your nice phone to check the time I imagine ?

YOINKKK !

Vomit

Perhaps they are in a hurry to obtain their drugs! A-haw-haw-haw-haw-haw!!

Vomit

Tzardine wrote: »

Waiting for you to pull out your nice phone to check the time I imagine ?

YOINKKK !

Sounds plausible..but once I was asked from a distance, from behind a big gate... maybe they just always have somewhere to be.

kneemos

Vomit wrote: »

Sounds plausible..but once I was asked from a distance, from behind a big gate... maybe they just always have somewhere to be.

They have a daily deadline to pay their dealer before their legs get broken...of course.

Stationmaster

You do know that, if you're reasonably confident they're a skanger, you're allowed to drive on and mow them down, don't you?

WoollyRedHat

Pedestrian crossings are a funny thing. The tourists seem to abide by the traffic signals even if the crossing is clear, while all the Irish seem to scatter like wannabe Manhattanites, myself included. However I have seen the phenomenon of peopling walking across the road when a car is fast approaching, putting their fate into the hands of an automobile, risky business or a death wish.

kneemos

People who push the button when there's no traffic coming are even worse.

loobylou

Deleted User wrote: »

Well that's a pelican/zebra crossing.

That's a zebra crossing. A pelican crossing is the one where you press the button if you wish to cross. Name comes from PEdestrian LIght CONtrolled.

caustic 1

Erm...what or who is a skanger?

Is it something you are born with?

Do you obtain a certificate when you qualify ... skangership?

Tzardine

caustic 1 wrote: »

Erm...what or who is a skanger?

Is it something you are born with?

Do you obtain a certificate when you qualify ... skangership?

/gets popcorn

FollatonWood

caustic 1 wrote: »

Erm...what or who is a skanger?

Guessing you haven't been near Dublin 1 lately.

caustic 1 wrote: »

Is it something you are born with?

Depends whether yore ma was a drug addict before or after you were born.

caustic 1 wrote: »

Do you obtain a certificate when you qualify ... skangership?

Yeah, a social welfare card.

Franticfrank

In fairness, you could be waiting all day for a green man in this country. I'm with the skangers on this one.

stefan idiot jones

caustic 1 wrote: »

Do you obtain a certificate when you qualify ... skangership?

A Swedish House Mafia CD.

caustic 1

FollatonWood wrote: »

Guessing you haven't been near Dublin 1 lately.


Depends whether yore ma was a drug addict before or after you were born.



Yeah, a social welfare card.

So a social welfare recipient with addict parents?

joi99

Stick it to the little red man.

FollatonWood

caustic 1 wrote: »

So a social welfare recipient with addict parents?

Na, there are a fair few qualifications to skanger-hood; the ones I listed are simply influencing factors and consequences.

Baneblade

walking out in fornt of traffic is one of the few ways they can still get a thrill from, plus if you hit them, cha-ching jacinta getting a new pair of shoes..

EyeSight

at the extremely busy pedestrian crossings at the junction of Dame st and Georges street, it's the other way around. I walk there twice a day and 90% of the time cars(and buses) will drive through a red light when the pedestrian light is green.
I'm surprised nobody has gotten hit there as there's a lot of tourists who don't know to look out for it.

Sciprio

In about two days last month while the green man was flashing i had two taxis just drive on through. About two days apart. I seen them come at a bit of speed and im thankful i didn't chance it even though they were wrong to drive through.

homeless student

EyeSight wrote: »

at the extremely busy pedestrian crossings at the junction of Dame st and Georges street, it's the other way around. I walk there twice a day and 90% of the time cars(and buses) will drive through a red light when the pedestrian light is green.
I'm surprised nobody has gotten hit there as there's a lot of tourists who don't know to look out for it.

i have seen this happen at dame street before with a dublin bus, also people drive way to fast in the city, its 30 kph not 80:mad:

loobylou

loobylou wrote: »

That's a zebra crossing. A pelican crossing is the one where you press the button if you wish to cross. Name comes from PEdestrian LIght CONtrolled.

There ya are now, I always thought pelican crossings had orange flashy lights, and zebra crossings didn't!

You learn something new!

kneemos

[Deleted User] wrote: »

There ya are now, I always thought pelican crossings had orange flashy lights, and zebra crossings didn't!

You learn something new!

How often?

EyeSight

homeless student wrote: »

i have seen this happen at dame street before with a dublin bus, also people drive way to fast in the city, its 30 kph not 80:mad:

the main problem junctions should have cameras to catch light skippers. In the USA most have them

rambutman

homeless student wrote: »

i have seen this happen at dame street before with a dublin bus, also people drive way to fast in the city, its 30 kph not 80:mad:

Happens right out the front of my office too - the crossing from the Brewdock over to the IFSC - people are driving through that on a green man regularly.

Pumpkinseeds

jester77 wrote: »

Ah, I see the little pervy green guys are back in Ireland!

Maybe the skangers are colour blind and can't distinguish between green and red, this could also explain their fashion sense.

That could explain the orange fake tan and foundation too then:D

Santa Cruz

Vomit wrote: »

Sounds plausible..but once I was asked from a distance, from behind a big gate... maybe they just always have somewhere to be.

Making sure they are not late for the Jeremy Kyle show with all it's lifestyle tips

bnt

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Pedestrian crossings are a funny thing. The tourists seem to abide by the traffic signals even if the crossing is clear, while all the Irish seem to scatter like wannabe Manhattanites, myself included. However I have seen the phenomenon of peopling walking across the road when a car is fast approaching, putting their fate into the hands of an automobile, risky business or a death wish.

Jaywalking is a misdemeanour in some parts of the USA, particularly in Manhattan: you're likely to get pulled up and ticketed if you're caught. I did it a couple of times there before I remembered (oops), but I found that the lights were more pedestrian-friendly, so you don't wait as long.

My impression from watching skangers do it here is that they have a deluded sense of superiority. "I don't have to wait, cars are the enemy, i'm more important, cars can stop for me." In their self-centred worldview, they don't get that it's more efficient overall to obey the lights (assuming the system is intelligently-designed). I don't own the city centre, I share it with cars too, and they are not the enemy. (Well, they're not usually the enemy.)

eisenberg1

FollatonWood wrote: »

Guessing you haven't been near Dublin 1 lately.


Depends whether yore ma was a drug addict before or after you were born.



Yeah, a social welfare card.

Not restricted to D1 by any stretch, the fcukers are all over

The One Doctor

Interestingly, the rules of the road state that pedestrians have priority over all other traffic once a pedestrian walks out onto the road. You have a legal obligation to stop. Not many other countries have that law.

the groutch

EyeSight wrote: »

at the extremely busy pedestrian crossings at the junction of Dame st and Georges street, it's the other way around. I walk there twice a day and 90% of the time cars(and buses) will drive through a red light when the pedestrian light is green.

Cyclists are 10 times worse at that junction



*sound of can of worms being opened*

RahenyD5

Some skanger jokes here:

- What do you call a skanger in a box?
- Innit

- What do you call a skanger in a suit?
- The accused

- What do you call a skanger in space?
- Well out

- What do you call a skanger in a box with a lock on it?
- Safe

- What do you call a skanger in a filing cabinet?
- Sorted

- What do you call a skanger in a bee-hive?
- Buzzin'

kneemos

RahenyD5 wrote: »

Some skanger jokes here:

- What do you call a skanger in a box?
- Innit

- What do you call a skanger in a suit?
- The accused

- What do you call a skanger in space?
- Well out

- What do you call a skanger in a box with a lock on it?
- Safe

- What do you call a skanger in a filing cabinet?
- Sorted

- What do you call a skanger in a bee-hive?
- Buzzin'

If you don't have a day job seek one immediately.

WoollyRedHat

bnt wrote: »

Jaywalking is a misdemeanour in some parts of the USA, particularly in Manhattan: you're likely to get pulled up and ticketed if you're caught. I did it a couple of times there before I remembered (oops), but I found that the lights were more pedestrian-friendly, so you don't wait as long.

My impression from watching skangers do it here is that they have a deluded sense of superiority. "I don't have to wait, cars are the enemy, i'm more important, cars can stop for me." In their self-centred worldview, they don't get that it's more efficient overall to obey the lights (assuming the system is intelligently-designed). I don't own the city centre, I share it with cars too, and they are not the enemy. (Well, they're not usually the enemy.)

IME I did it loads in Manhattan and had no problems. Did it when there were cops at the same crossing before and they didn't pull me up on it.

DarkJager

The One Doctor wrote: »

Interestingly, the rules of the road state that pedestrians have priority over all other traffic once a pedestrian walks out onto the road. You have a legal obligation to stop. Not many other countries have that law.

So if I'm doing 80 and a pedestrian steps out on to the road I'm supposed to come to a grinding halt? Nonsense. That pedestrian better have the common sense to **** off the road quickly in that case.