Insomnia

fr336

Full blown insomniac here - any tips for sleep even if you've totally screwed your sleep patterns? I've tried everything it's nuts - sleeping pills, exercise, a trip abroad on my own and up over 24 hours constantly on the go - yet I can't get to a place of long, quality sleep to at least go back to something resembling a human being. This sounds so dramatic but I let it build too much over time and it's totally ****ed me over apologies for my language. I would say the closest I've been to getting sleep whatever the situation is to tire myself mentally - but this is rather hard when you can't focus or concentrate due to such lack of sleep! In my case it's hardly ever complete lack of sleep - I do get to sleep eventually, it's just 4 or 5 hours and many wake ups built up over months, even years Have to say if I wasn't so ambitious I would have otherwised crumbled and been a tad on the suicidal side tbh..this stuff sends you mad

Thanks for reading this was probably a pointless post

stefan idiot jones

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

stefan idiot jones

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Sorry!

fr336

Vito Corleone wrote: »

Yeah it's tough alright. Exercising helps somewhat.

Thanks. I've found personally with exercise that it makes me even worse! I do feel slightly more relaxed (which is good because the worst bit of this is the anxiety) but I feel physically exhausted rather than mentally exhausted Well actually I do but..oh I don't know it's so so crap

fr336

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

Sorry!

Don't be

WilyCoyote

Good man Jones!

MultiUmm

Have you gone to your doctor about it? It sounds like you might need to see a specialist or go to a sleep clinic if your insomnia is that bad.

fr336

WilyCoyote wrote: »

Good man Jones!

Beep beep

BillyMitchel

Weed! It will work.

WilyCoyote

Have you tried violently playing with yourself while playing When The Saints Go Marching In at full volume?

fr336

MultiUmm wrote: »

Have you gone to your doctor about it? It sounds like you might need to see a specialist or go to a sleep clinic if your insomnia is that bad.

Yeah a few times - they gave me some predictable about anxiety and depression etc, which I'm sure I do have by now one due to the condition itself and two because it would make you depressed. However when I do occasionally get on a good run of a few days again I feel ever so slightly better - as if, if I simply caught up on the sleep for weeks and months on end, I'd be fine. Thanks for the post.

WilyCoyote

fr336 wrote: »

Beep beep

Shussshhhhhh! You'll wake him :cool:

fr336

WilyCoyote wrote: »

Shussshhhhhh! You'll wake him :cool:

He doesn't need sleep to outrun a nomark like you.

MultiUmm

fr336 wrote: »

Yeah a few times - they gave me some predictable about anxiety and depression etc, which I'm sure I do have by now one due to the condition itself and two because it would make you depressed. However when I do occasionally get on a good run of a few days again I feel ever so slightly better - as if, if I simply caught up on the sleep for weeks and months on end, I'd be fine. Thanks for the post.

I get mild insomnia but never to an extreme level like your own. Suppose I should count myself lucky! If I were you I'd seriously consider going to a sleep clinic. At least then they might be able to figure out why your brain can't sleep properly and how to fix it.

Angry_Mammarys

Lavender incense or candles, warm bath/shower, put new sheets on your bed too, turn off all electrical appliances, that means laptop too! , read a book, it tires the eyes out naturally, lie in bed thinking of happy thoughts, pretty soon you'll be Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

yawhat!

Licking a dogs Anus releases antibodies that will help you sleep.

judgefudge

Things that have helped me:

Yoga
Listening to audiobooks
Removing all distractions from the room including laptop and phone
Lavender drops on pillow
Mindful meditation

I also have sleep difficulties. Mine are triggered by anxiety so I have some specific exercises that help to stop negative thoughts.

One is to lie in the dark in bed and picture an object that is in the same room then think of all the possible things you could say to describe the object, it's functions etc.

Another is to close your eyes and tense all the muscles in your body one by one from the toes up.

There are others. Honestly though I find a good audiobook can put me asleep quite often.

stefan idiot jones

Listen to Ronan O'Gara.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

fr336

Angry_Mammarys wrote: »

Lavender incense or candles, warm bath/shower, put new sheets on your bed too, turn off all electrical appliances, that means laptop too! , read a book, it tires the eyes out naturally, lie in bed thinking of happy thoughts, pretty soon you'll be Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Read one for 3 hours tonight. It didn't.

fr336

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

Listen to Ronan O'Gara.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

No idea who this is but the intention sounds funny

Angry_Mammarys

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

Listen to Ronan O'Gara.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Or Joe Duffy.... he's put me in a coma one or two times... snore

BillyMitchel

Read the Christianity forum here is another one.

fr336

BillyMitchel wrote: »

Read the Christianity forum here is another one.

Haha

BillyMitchel

fr336 wrote: »

Haha

I'm being deadly serious!

angeline

Serious insomniac here. Have tried all the usual advised methods of aiding sleep but none work for me. Unfortunately severe insomnia can lead to à range of other problems so it really needs to be dealt with. CBT is supposed to be good if you can find a suitable person. In any event you need to properly talk to your doctor if it is disabling.

fr336

angeline wrote: »

Serious insomniac here. Have tried all the usual advised methods of aiding sleep but none work for me. Unfortunately severe insomnia can lead to à range of other problems so it really needs to be dealt with. CBT is supposed to be good if you can find a suitable person. In any event you need to properly talk to your doctor if it is disabling.

Sorry to hear that. You should take your own advice!

I am pie

No longer happens, but years ago i had trouble sleeping related to sleep paralysis. In the end BBcworld service radio or boards of canada albums helped me no end. You need some ambient noise. Properly structured days too.

angeline

fr336 wrote: »

Sorry to hear that. You should take your own advice![/quote

I have taken my own advice. Thought you were looking for advice so offered some.

WilyCoyote

fr336 wrote: »

He doesn't need sleep to outrun a nomark like you.

You can't hurt me. I've cried all my tears

angeline

Now if you don't mind I'm off for a long quality sleep...yawn...

orangesoda

I have photos of attractive women on my phone for emergencies, when i can't get to sleep i empty my balls into a tissue and fire it under the bed, sometimes i have fallen asleep with the phone still in hand and tissue still on bed

Also Starring LeVar Burton

Go see a hypnotherapist.
Sound like bullsh1t, but it can work.

WilyCoyote

orangesoda wrote: »

I have photos of attractive women on my phone for emergencies, when i can't get to sleep i empty my balls into a tissue and fire it under the bed, sometimes i have fallen asleep with the phone still in hand and tissue still on bed

She didn't piss on you and ruin the phone?

RiverOfLove

Also Starring LeVar Burton wrote: »

Go see a hypnotherapist.
Sound like bullsh1t, but it can work.

Hypnosis was recommended to me for a different problem. I never tried it but it's supposed to be powerful.

OP, I hope something works in your favour and your sleeping problem gets sorted.

asteroth

yoga

cures everything

fr336

RiverOfLove wrote: »

Hypnosis was recommended to me for a different problem. I never tried it but it's supposed to be powerful.

OP, I hope something works in your favour and your sleeping problem gets sorted.

Thanks, really appreciate the kind thought

Also Starring LeVar Burton

RiverOfLove wrote: »

Hypnosis was recommended to me for a different problem. I never tried it but it's supposed to be powerful.

I've never been hypnotised for insomnia or anything like that, but I've been hypnotised twice during stage shows. It was a surreal experience, but I felt fantastic afterwards and as if I had the greatest nap of my life, so I can only imagine hypnotherapy works wonders on people.

orangesoda

WilyCoyote wrote: »

She didn't piss on you and ruin the phone?

What do you mean? I sleep alone

Mysteriouschic

There's a deep sleep app by Andrew Johnson itunes or google play which is quite good it has great reviews and I've tried it myself.

BillyMitchel

OP you still awake?

dgt

What works? Beer and an epic roide.

Good night y'all!

fr336

asteroth wrote: »

yoga

cures everything

You being serious? If so, how?

P.S. If it worked (not saying this is the first time I've heard of it was a remedy, but you'd have spurred me on) I'd have to buy you the best pint ever

FanadMan

Been there, done that and still wearing the tshirt. Been having sleep problems for years due to depression and anxiety. Now just get on with it - lie staring at the ceiling for hours, read tons of books.....no change.

Every couple of months I get a few sleeping tablets from my GP.....on orders from my psychiatrist of course This is just to get me a couple of decent nights sleep a week when needed. It's not ideal but still keeps me going, otherwise I'd have cracked up by now. I know when to take them by how spaced out I am during the day. When it gets to the stage that I can't talk properly, I know I need a tablet lol

Have tried all the usual things as suggested here - reading, meditation, audio books, essential oils but nothing seems to work. Think am destined to either go mad or just live with very little sleep

Best of luck OP. Hope you get to the bottom of it. If not, there's a few of us haunting boards throughout the night lol

fr336

FanadMan wrote: »

Been there, done that and still wearing the tshirt. Been having sleep problems for years due to depression and anxiety. Now just get on with it - lie staring at the ceiling for hours, read tons of books.....no change.

Every couple of months I get a few sleeping tablets from my GP.....on orders from my psychiatrist of course This is just to get me a couple of decent nights sleep a week when needed. It's not ideal but still keeps me going, otherwise I'd have cracked up by now. I know when to take them by how spaced out I am during the day. When it gets to the stage that I can't talk properly, I know I need a tablet lol

Have tried all the usual things as suggested here - reading, meditation, audio books, essential oils but nothing seems to work. Think am destined to either go mad or just live with very little sleep

Best of luck OP. Hope you get to the bottom of it. If not, there's a few of us haunting boards throughout the night lol

Thank you. Same to you. Truly hope you get it sorted soon and live life to the full.

paulbok

On the upside OP, only 6 more sleeps until Christmas.

stefan idiot jones

I would start counting sheep, but I'd recognise a few of them.

MonstaMash

Andy-Pandy

I feel sorry for you OP, i've no experience at all with insomnia. For me its as simple as closing my eyes and thinking of nothing, i'm never more than ten minutes away from sleep. I dont know what causes insomnia, but to sleep so well I have a clear mind when trying to sleep, I exercise and i live a stress free life (as much as possible). I also go to bed early, between 10 and 11, i'm always asleep by midnight at the latest.

Panda_Turtle

Walk/run at around sunrise and then around sunset.

Go camping for a few days.

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-23530408

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/camping-resets-internal-clock

Camping resets internal clock
After a week in the wild, people went to bed and got up earlier

Alf Veedersane

Haven't read right through so it might have been said but maybe a mindfulness audio thingy on a low volume that you can just about make out words would help.

It's soothing and stops your mind ticking over at a rate of knots.

I haven't tried that...i just turn on something like Newstalk where it's just talk and it usually works.

I've been through that type of insomnia...never 24 hours on the go, mind you, but I've survived on 2-3 hours a night. Got used to it even. But I did find talking in the background helpful. Mindfulness would probably have the best chance of success though.

MonstaMash

Whole thread dedicated to insomnia here...

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054968841