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Long division

  • 21-02-2014 2:08pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭


    Just realized I can't do it without my phone/computer.
    Anyone else out there in the same boat.

    Just remember hating it with a passion in school.
    Can you still do long division.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Never bothered learning it from the start, knew it was a load of **** from the get go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Motherfu**in' remainders.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    Only with binary for error detection. Forgot how to do it with numbers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭Tilly


    I only remember how to do it by helping my nephew with his homework. Had forgot all about it. Who uses it in real life anyway??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    37rem2


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,044 ✭✭✭Wossack


    can still do it

    once you get a bit of a prompt it will come back to you methinks


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    wazky wrote: »
    Never bothered learning it from the start, knew it was a load of **** from the get go.

    Indeed it is.
    But what if you were in some James Bond type scenario with some Russian beauty to save and therefore shag and you couldn't long divide.

    The lazer would kill her, no Svetlana for you tonight.
    Just some kleenex and a maths book.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭thegreatgonzo


    I can't do anything with numbers without at least a pen and paper unless it's a single digit number I'm dividing/multiplying with. Hated work placements where I'd be put on the spot to calculate dose rates per weight, would draw a total blank!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Apparently it's taught a different way now than it was back in the 80 / 90s?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭Citroen2cv


    I remember writing a computer program in assembly language for doing it.
    10000x more complicated than doing it on paper.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Just some kleenex and a maths book.

    That's probably what many posters here would choose anyway...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    I have lost the art of long division.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Cantremember


    Thread started by bankers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Davarus Walrus


    If you invest money with Paddy Power then you'll quickly learn the basics of long division.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    He plays in the Premiership with Hull

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Long


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    He plays in the Premiership with Hull

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Long

    Owner of longcat ??

    https://encyclopediadramatica.es/Long_cat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭cml387


    I remember Macavity could do it:

    You'll be sure to find him resting, or a-licking of his thumbs,
    Or engaged in doing complicated long division sums.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭force eleven


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Apparently it's taught a different way now than it was back in the 80 / 90s?

    Probably back to the seventies method. Torture, if I remember rightly...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Long division should pose no problems if you know your times-tables people!

    In fact if you have your multiplications memorised for integers up as far as 57x27 then you should be able to do any long division sum for a divisor up to and including 999999.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    Long Division? Not a chance.
    Sure I can barely add and subtract without a calculator these days


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    Wtf? Of course I can


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    I can't multiply or divide numbers on a page. It's not that I have trouble with them or anything, I just forgot. Weirdly, I can divide algebraic expressions. It's the same idea so I should be able to figure it out if I had to.

    I mostly do sums in my head and then check using a calculator. Unless it's a total **** of a sum, then I'd just use a calculator.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    It's not as bad as algebra though, that sh*t is just the spawn of the devil sent to torment me. I don't care what x =, fcuk off x, fcuk off and die:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭pajor


    Didn't bother me that much when I eventually got my head around it. Took a long time though.

    Algebraic long division in secondary school. Now that was a bastard. :mad:


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I can as long as I have pen and paper to do it with, we had to learn everything off by heart so I can still rattle of my times tables, quadratic equations formula, theorems, poetry etc..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭oak5548


    Never learned my times tables, addition, subtraction, divison etc.
    Never learned long divison.
    Never learned how to do a single thing in secondary school maths.

    Still havent a clue how to do any and im in my 20's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭Princess Peach


    I took a GMAT exam for my masters application, no calculators. Most study I did was spent relearning long division and long multiplication!

    Was out to lunch with a colleague last week and we had trouble splitting the bill in our heads. We work as accountants :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,076 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Calculator? Pah. Get a Slide Rule.

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    I had completely forgotten it till I had to build a scale model - figured out a way of doing it that seemed to work - then realised I should have paid more attention at school because maths is not that hard.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,904 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    It's not as bad as algebra though, that sh*t is just the spawn of the devil sent to torment me. I don't care what x =, fcuk off x, fcuk off and die:mad:

    Algebra was bad but Theroms were worse.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I would say most of what I learned it school was of no earthly use what so ever, but we still had to trudge through it, some of it was really silly, for example being made to learn the periodic table off by heart( never managed that one ).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭A cow called Daisy


    oak5548 wrote: »
    Never learned my times tables, addition, subtraction, divison etc.
    Never learned long divison.
    Never learned how to do a single thing in secondary school maths.

    Still havent a clue how to do any and im in my 20's.

    Kinda figured you no good at addition.
    Lent you 20 euro the last 3 days. That adds up to 8450 euro you owe me by my calculations


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    It's not as bad as algebra though, that sh*t is just the spawn of the devil sent to torment me. I don't care what x =, fcuk off x, fcuk off and die:mad:

    Negative comment.

    +
    Algebra was bad but Theroms were worse.

    Negative comment.

    =

    :) Hurray .... you have a great day now. Maths is great :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    mariaalice wrote: »
    we still had to trudge through it, some of it was really silly

    Think about the message there. Can you imagine saying 'I'm not doing this, this is stupid' to the teacher?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭The One Who Knocks


    37rem2


    Rem, hmm that sounds familiar alright.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Think about the message there. Can you imagine saying 'I'm not doing this, this is stupid' to the teacher?

    The thing is we would not have dreamed of doing that, I am talking over 40 years ago, you just went in sat down and did what you were told or you would get murdered! plus when we got home we were made do our home work before you were allowed out to play, there was no escape.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    mariaalice wrote: »
    The thing is we would not have dreamed of doing that, I am talking over 40 years ago, you just went in sat down and did what you were told or you would get murdered!

    The message remains the same to this day though. It doesn't matter if you think it's a stupid exercise, it doesn't matter if it is a stupid exercise, the message is 'shut up and do it'.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    While the actual content of what we had to learn didn't translate in to real life the discipline of being made to lean it was a good for life. The problem with the education I has was that it was way to academic for most of us the teachers must have realised that as well.

    There was another thread about peig the other night and I realised that despite our Irish not being good enough to do such a book we keep going regardless, neither the teacher or us said anything we just did it because it was on the curriculum and that was that.

    Theirs not to reason why, Theirs but to do or die.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭Miss Mayhem


    I think its the way math is taught in secondary schools that's the problem. I used to have no problem doing long division in primary school. I think its when you get to secondary, from 1st year you're taught to rely on calculators a bit too much and by the time you reach 6th year all those basic math skills you've been taught go out the window from lack of use.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,076 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    I went to school in South Africa, where I had the times tables bludgeoned in to my head. They're still there today, x years later, but it does take a bit longer to get them out e.g. 12 x 11 = 132 took about 10 seconds. You need to be good at them to quickly do long multiplication or division. I suspect that's why folks have trouble with those - they don't have the times tables down.

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    watching oriental people using an abacus is freaky, but stranger still is that many can do it mentally without using a physical abacus and the really freaky bit is they use a different part of the brain so can do the calculations while having a conversation.

    well that's what it said on QI so it must be true :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 227 ✭✭FollatonWood


    bnt wrote: »
    I went to school in South Africa, where I had the times tables bludgeoned in to my head. They're still there today, x years later, but it does take a bit longer to get them out e.g. 12 x 11 = 132 took about 10 seconds. You need to be good at them to quickly do long multiplication or division. I suspect that's why folks have trouble with those - they don't have the times tables down.

    I had the timetables drilled into me too, but when it comes to long division I seriously have to think it out! I was sh1te at Math in school.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I still know my tables but I also can't remember how to long divide. Haven't used it for years so I obviously lost it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    It's not as bad as algebra though, that sh*t is just the spawn of the devil sent to torment me. I don't care what x =, fcuk off x, fcuk off and die:mad:

    Algebra was my nemesis in school. I just never got it. I was always quite good at the basics, multiplication, division, fractions, percentages etc., but algebra was like double dutch to me.

    My parents hied a tutor for me for my leaving and all, but even he had to eventually admit failure and I lost all confidence in maths after that. Failed maths in my leaving because I just couldn't grasp algebra at all and it was such a big part of the exam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,807 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    I always liked Maths. Any time I watched Countdown, I always tried to get the answer to the numbers game before the clock started.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I always liked Maths. Any time I watched Countdown, I always tried to get the answer to the numbers game before the clock started.

    I'm better at the numbers game than the letters. I can't decipher anagrams at all, but I'm not bad with the numbers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Antar Bolaeisk


    I don't understand how people don't understand long division, it's no different than ordinary division, just the numbers are bigger.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Happens with computers too, this space cadet couldn't even add.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_1620
    The IBM 1620 was announced by IBM on October 21, 1959, and marketed as an inexpensive "scientific computer".
    ...
    The internal code name CADET was selected for the machine. One of the developers says that this stood for "Computer with ADvanced Economic Technology", however others recall it as simply being one half of "SPACE - CADET", where SPACE was the internal code name of the IBM 1401 machine, also then under development.
    ...
    Many in the user community recall the 1620 being referred to as CADET, jokingly meaning "Can't Add, Doesn't Even Try", referring to the use of addition tables in memory rather than dedicated addition circuitry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    When arithmetic was really mental -having to stand up in class (primary school) and do mental arithmetic, anything from times tables (still useful) to multiplying £ s d. Now there's a totally irrational exercise, I couldn't do it now. Thank the lord for decimal.


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