Oldbridge Station, Osberstown - does it belong to Sallins or Naas?

vivianmm

We are thinking about buying a NEW 3 beds Semi-Detached house in the Oldbridge Station, Osberstown. The asking price is 240,000 and no room for negotiation.

- Osberstown is belong to Sallins or Naas ? If we buy it here, can our kids
go to any primary school in the Naas ?

- Is it a nice & safety &quiet estate ? Is it mainly owner/ family occupied ?

- Any anti-social behavior in this area ? We heard some bad reviews about
Sallins such as drugs ?

- Flood Risk Area ? really worried about it because of 2009 Sallins Flood :eek:

- How about Alder Grove in the Naas ? The 3 beds End of Terrace will be
guiding 240,000 :mad:

- We need train to commuter, but how about Clane?

Any information welcome ! Thanks a lot !:P:P:P

GavMan

Had a look at these myself. Bit overpriced IMO considering their size and location. Can see no justification in a price rise of 23k over the previous phase

They are waaaaaay closer to Sallins than Naas. I would say they are Sallins but SherryFitz are pitching them

Moonbeam

Ring the schools and see if they work on catchment area or 1st come 1st served.

vivianmm

GavMan wrote: »

Had a look at these myself. Bit overpriced IMO considering their size and location. Can see no justification in a price rise of 23k over the previous phase

They are waaaaaay closer to Sallins than Naas. I would say they are Sallins but SherryFitz are pitching them

I think it is overpriced as well but 4 was sold on the day of open viewing. Are you interested in Alder Grove ?:D

vivianmm

Moonbeam wrote: »

Ring the schools and see if they work on catchment area or 1st come 1st served.

Thanks for reply. I will. :P:P:P

Victor

vivianmm wrote: »

- Osberstown is belong to Sallins or Naas ? If we buy it here, can our kids go to any primary school in the Naas ?

It is Sallins, but whether you can get into any particular school will depend on supply, demand and the admissions policy of the school. I imagine there are a fair few young families in the area.

- Is it a nice & safety &quiet estate ? Is it mainly owner/ family occupied ?

I don't know the area, but you are between a railway and a motorway. Go along at 8-9pm on a dry Friday or Saturday night to see what things are like.

- Flood Risk Area ? really worried about it because of 2009 Sallins Flood :eek:

The area seems flat, so do check this out.

- We need train to commuter, but how about Clane?

Station has car park, Clane has buses - Bus Éireann routes 120 + 123 +126N. Kenneallys operate a bus from Clane to Sallins station - route 846.

Put your exact locations (home and work/study) and relevant dates and times into www.a-b.ie and tweak the settings. Select "take neighbouring stops into account for origin and destination maximum 20 min walk".

vivianmm

Victor wrote: »

It is Sallins, but whether you can get into any particular school will depend on supply, demand and the admissions policy of the school. I imagine there are a fair few young families in the area.

I don't know the area, but you are between a railway and a motorway. Go along at 8-9pm on a dry Friday or Saturday night to see what things are like.

The area seems flat, so do check this out.

Station has car park, Clane has buses - Bus Éireann routes 120 + 123 +126N. Kenneallys operate a bus from Clane to Sallins station - route 846.

Put your exact locations (home and work/study) and relevant dates and times into www.a-b.ie and tweak the settings. Select "take neighbouring stops into account for origin and destination maximum 20 min walk".

Wow, a really good website, Thanks Victor :p:p

The_Conductor

You seriously need to ring the local schools regarding their admission policies- even if you lived next door to the school, it is no guarantee that you would be offered a place. The whole thing about catchment areas- isn't really as valid as you imagine- it depends on lots of factors- not least when you actually get your application in. Keep in mind- given the demographic of the area, it is probable that there are insufficient places in the local schools to cater for all potential applicants- schools can cherrypick who they let in, and who they send elsewhere.

calgary bound

Hi we bought a house in this development, recently moved in. The estate is very quiet, lots of families and commuters. We love the house, very warm & a lot of extras but then again we paid considerably less than what they are looking for them now. Another viewing today so the rest will probably sell soon. Good luck in your search!

Woodpecker1

I live in the area.

Oldbridge and Hunters Wood is Osberstown Naas technically although its on the line between Sallins.

There is not risk of flooding.

The Waterways was affected by the major floods a few years back. This was due to bad planning and building on a flood plain. Drainage was installed and it is sorted now. Oldbridge is the other side of the main road and was not affected at all and has a storm drain system anyway.

It is quiet, but this seems to attract robbers. A few cars have been nicked in the area in the last year. Garda have nabbed a few scum bags there in the past.

There are loads of young families about . Lots of friends to for children to hook up with. Lots of green area around also and the place is well kept with considerate residents.

Its hard to get a place in the local school.

The new houses(and many of the old ones) are all timber frame . They are still knocking them out with very very fast. Oldbridge stations was a field less than a year ago. Now its full of houses.
I personally like to have blocks and mortar in my walls.

vivianmm

Thanks for lots of useful information !!!:D:D:D:D

Woodpecker1 wrote: »

I live in the area.

Oldbridge and Hunters Wood is Osberstown Naas technically although its on the line between Sallins.

There is not risk of flooding.

The Waterways was affected by the major floods a few years back. This was due to bad planning and building on a flood plain. Drainage was installed and it is sorted now. Oldbridge is the other side of the main road and was not affected at all and has a storm drain system anyway.

It is quiet, but this seems to attract robbers. A few cars have been nicked in the area in the last year. Garda have nabbed a few scum bags there in the past.

There are loads of young families about . Lots of friends to for children to hook up with. Lots of green area around also and the place is well kept with considerate residents.

Its hard to get a place in the local school.

The new houses(and many of the old ones) are all timber frame . They are still knocking them out with very very fast. Oldbridge stations was a field less than a year ago. Now its full of houses.
I personally like to have blocks and mortar in my walls.

GavMan

vivianmm wrote: »

I think it is overpriced as well but 4 was sold on the day of open viewing. Are you interested in Alder Grove ?:D

No, not keen on Alder Grove. Not really after a Terrace unit.

djimi

vivianmm wrote: »

- Any anti-social behavior in this area ? We heard some bad reviews about
Sallins such as drugs ?

Like most areas, Sallins can have a bad element, and my experience of living there was tainted by some delinquent kids causing trouble in my building, but I suspect that might have had a lot more to do with the fact that where I was living (The Waterways) had no management company to speak of and no working security door, so it became a haven for scumbag kids to hang around in and cause trouble.

calgary bound

Have to say that this doesn't seem to be an issue in Oldbridge Station - haven't seen any delinquent kids hanging around since we moved in so I don't think you should worry about that OP. Higher owner occupancy in the estate - I know of 1 rented house out of 18 and mainly families or young couples like ourselves.

djimi wrote: »

Like most areas, Sallins can have a bad element, and my experience of living there was tainted by some delinquent kids causing trouble in my building, but I suspect that might have had a lot more to do with the fact that where I was living (The Waterways) had no management company to speak of and no working security door, so it became a haven for scumbag kids to hang around in and cause trouble.

Irish Molly

I bought a house in Oldbridge if you want to live in a building site for the next 10 years or so and also there is no after care service at all from the building company.The roads are never cleaned so dust and dirt are a major factor and they intend building at least another 200 houses in the coming years - due to the ongoing building there is congestion on the road with lorries, teleporters etc and it can be impossible to get in or out of your driveway. The asking price of €240,00 has now increased in the new phase to €300,00.

Anyway that's my opinion if I had my way all over again I would have never bought in Oldbridge the biggest mistake I ever made.

And in regards to crime houses that were in the process of been built were broken into at the weekend and completely stripped of all white goods, tiles etc.

Hope this helps

Irish Molly

Well Calgary bound you must have bought a house here or you're working for the building company but what I have said I stand by it and have photos to prove what I'm saying is the truth. There's no green areas for the children to play, the estate is badly run down i.e. trees falling down, flower beds not weeded - it's beyond a joke

Irish Molly

Well lucky you Calgary Bound it was stated in the brochure that I received that we would have a well landscaped and well maintained estate with green areas, shop, creche etc. Lies all lies maybe you're happy with Springwood at the moment but give yourself a while and you'll see what I mean - are you happy with the state of the roads in Oldbridge then, the ongoing construction traffic, the dirt, the dust is there a green area where you bought for children to play because if there is I would be very interested so I could let my kids out to play

red25

View from my house in Oldbridge.
Would you want to live here....one year living here and wish I could move.
Totally mis leading Oldbridge brochure about landscaping etc.
If you are buying go elsewhere.

red25

Calgary bound im a bit confused. On the 15/02/14 you mentioned in a post that you only just moved in.
In a previous post you stated that you bought the house last August and signed for last December. Yet you told Irish Molloy you are living there a year.

red25

calgary bound wrote: »

We actually moved to the estate sept 2012 but didn't purchase till last year. Moved to sallins for my youngest school but hadn't decided on a property to purchase at that point.

We are thinking of buying there. Took a drive in a few times, houses look lovely. My youngest is 5 and hoping the local school is good.

bcw

calgary bound wrote: »

Have to say that this doesn't seem to be an issue in Oldbridge Station - haven't seen any delinquent kids hanging around since we moved in so I don't think you should worry about that OP. Higher owner occupancy in the estate - I know of 1 rented house out of 18 and mainly families or young couples like ourselves.

Agreed.
i live here for couple years, and just bought and moved in my new house, but found the old one has better quality than new house.

red25

How much are the new houses there now?

Woodpecker1

red25 wrote: »

How much are the new houses there now?

http://www.springwoodltd.ie/ 208k

B Rated homes as well. Thats fairly good.

red25

Sherry Fitzgerald are quoting €217k when I checked last. Is this estate a NAMA one. Just seems to be alot of weeds in lansscaping beds and dead or broken trees. Houses loook nice though. New houses being built near the Bridgewater look fab....

Woodpecker1

red25 wrote: »

Sherry Fitzgerald are quoting €217k when I checked last. Is this estate a NAMA one. Just seems to be alot of weeds in lansscaping beds and dead or broken trees. Houses loook nice though. New houses being built near the Bridgewater look fab....

No. The man bought up all the land pre celtic tiger. He has scaled everything down to a normal rate of building now. No one is paying management fees yet so he takes care of the place. Bare minimum of care by the looks of it.
Its going to be a massive estate by the time he finishes. Lovely houses . Love the brickwork. Just a pity they are all timber frame.

leonard1978

Living in oldbridge 8 years.my kids r young love the estate the local schools are great.mine r going to local school st lawrences yes u can send your kids to the schools n naas too.they kids in the estate are all young no bigger kids r gangs yet.there is no drugs in the estate neither.the builder can b rude to deal with at time with aftercare with the house.

leonard1978

Irish Molly wrote: »

I bought a house in Oldbridge if you want to live in a building site for the next 10 years or so and also there is no after care service at all from the building company.The roads are never cleaned so dust and dirt are a major factor and they intend building at least another 200 houses in the coming years - due to the ongoing building there is congestion on the road with lorries, teleporters etc and it can be impossible to get in or out of your driveway. The asking price of €240,00 has now increased in the new phase to €300,00.

Anyway that's my opinion if I had my way all over again I would have never bought in Oldbridge the biggest mistake I ever made.

And in regards to crime houses that were in the process of been built were broken into at the weekend and completely stripped of all white goods, tiles etc.

Hope this helps

They are building 59 houses not 200 house.when buying the house u would of seen the plans on the brohcure

Houses r getting broken into all over the country.dont make oldbridge to b a bad place.

The_Conductor

Leonard1978- less of the text speak please.

red25

59 is just the next phase. Sherry Fitzgerald told me that there is 200 more going in over the next few years. Went down during the week to look again...the roads are destroyed with mud, dead trees and beds full of weeds. One of the workers said none of the residents complain so the builder does not bother with aftercare! This wont put me off buying as the estate looks lovely apart from the landscaping and roads full of mud. But I would be approaching the builder to clean up same as he is advertising landscaping with feature planting! My kids 6 & 8 would love the green areas.

leonard1978

red25 wrote: »

59 is just the next phase. Sherry Fitzgerald told me that there is 200 more going in over the next few years. Went down during the week to look again...the roads are destroyed with mud, dead trees and beds full of weeds. One of the workers said none of the residents complain so the builder does not bother with aftercare! This wont put me off buying as the estate looks lovely apart from the landscaping and roads full of mud. But I would be approaching the builder to clean up same as he is advertising landscaping with feature planting! My kids 6 & 8 would love the green areas.

Some houses have been rented.owners look after their houses well.the garden maintence company cut the grass all around the estate.
my children are 3 5 7 they have made some lovely friends around the estate.the schools are great & i find it very friendly place to live in.

the builders are not very helpful in aftercare with the houses.they have not transferred over to the council yet when they do roads trees lights will all have to be sorted.

red25

I think with another 200 houses to be built it will be 10 years plus before the council consider taking over the estate.
It is a pity that the homeowners dont get together and approach the builder and ask him to tidy up the bedding areas trees and clean the roads etc. He must be laughing all the way to the bank, has his money with very little aftercare! Houses look well finished but a few people have commented when the showhouses were opened, that is looks like a NAMA estate very neglected. Sherry Fitzgerald have mentioned to the builder to tidy up landscaping but this falls on deaf ears has the houses are selling!

leonard1978

red25 wrote: »

I think with another 200 houses to be built it will be 10 years plus before the council consider taking over the estate.
It is a pity that the homeowners dont get together and approach the builder and ask him to tidy up the bedding areas trees and clean the roads etc. He must be laughing all the way to the bank, has his money with very little aftercare! Houses look well finished but a few people have commented when the showhouses were opened, that is looks like a NAMA estate very neglected. Sherry Fitzgerald have mentioned to the builder to tidy up landscaping but this falls on deaf ears has the houses are selling!

The builders are very rude i had a problem once i got hold of his mobile number i rang him first thing he said was delete my number after this call.i told him not a chance will i do that he fixed the problem.We paid well over 400k for our bungalow prob only worth half of that.i must say that around get onto spring wood.

red25

I met him once at the showhouse. He was very smug. He said people buy the houses for the finish not the landscaping. I asked about children at play signs etc. He just laughed.
Just angers me that no one speaks up, just accepts paying over inflated prices for houses.

leonard1978

red25 wrote: »

I met him once at the showhouse. He was very smug. He said people buy the houses for the finish not the landscaping. I asked about children at play signs etc. He just laughed.
Just angers me that no one speaks up, just accepts paying over inflated prices for houses.

A fella with sunglasses? Thats him.he knows himself that will all have to be done before he hands it over to the council.

we have been in touch with TD on getting ramps put into the estate as you move in the entrance.theres another estate in the middle of oldbridge bridge thats hunters wood alot of the appartment have been rented as they could not sell them.

there is a second entrance going into the estate as per plans the builder has been approched on that recently.

kids that are out playing there is always adults with them we generally dont let our kids out of the roads on their own.all the kids are young in the estate no gangs hanging around.the locally school seems to put the kids in our estate into the same class which i find great.

i might ring spring wood myself where im living its pretty looked after.rented houses seem to let there gardens fall to the waste side which isnt nice for us people that own the houses..

the estate people area shops school are very friendly.at the moment they are talking about getting a playground in as we have none

we are close to everything caragh pet farm only 5 mins drive away donedea not far theres loads to do around the area.

the_syco

Woodpecker1 wrote: »

No one is paying management fees yet so he takes care of the place. Bare minimum of care by the looks of it.
Its going to be a massive estate by the time he finishes.

Hrm, smooth funking operator. No-one pays management fees, so they all think it's hunky dory. He keeps the place looking nice as it's in his best interests to do so. Once he sells all the houses, he moves on, and directs any queries to the management company, which will only have been set up, will have no cash, and if no-one pays, it won't be getting any. And slowly the place goes to hell.

Very smooth funking operator, unless I'm reading it wrongly?

leonard1978 wrote: »

the builders are not very helpful in aftercare with the houses.they have not transferred over to the council yet when they do roads trees lights will all have to be sorted.

The council may look after the lights, although they may just become someone elses problem. Street lights in my area are maintained by Airtricity, although I'm not in a Managed estate, so it may differ. The residents association take care of the trees, shrubs, etc.

If you live there, I'd advise you to form a residents committee, get everyone to donate a few bob, and get the estate sorted yourself, as it seems the smooth operator has found a way to sell houses without having to spend anything making the place look nice?

red25

If I was to buy there I would be keen on setting up a residents association. But as no one seems to be to concerned as one of the workers said, no one complains to the builder about the aftercare I can imagine not to many would get involved in any association.
This estate is in a great location and could be so nice. In the brochure it states elegant street lights? From what I can see its ordinary lights on poles. Extensive planting and landscaped feature areas...these feature areas are full of dead shrubs and weeds. Brochure also states shops and creche to be built. Checked with KCC..this was scrapped back in 2009. So this builder is using false advertising to sell these houses. Where is the 2nd entrance going?

leonard1978

red25 wrote: »

If I was to buy there I would be keen on setting up a residents association. But as no one seems to be to concerned as one of the workers said, no one complains to the builder about the aftercare I can imagine not to many would get involved in any association.
This estate is in a great location and could be so nice. In the brochure it states elegant street lights? From what I can see its ordinary lights on poles. Extensive planting and landscaped feature areas...these feature areas are full of dead shrubs and weeds. Brochure also states shops and creche to be built. Checked with KCC..this was scrapped back in 2009. So this builder is using false advertising to sell these houses. Where is the 2nd entrance going?

Second entrance will come out at the lights at supervalu.theres no way he building 200 houses there is not enough room.it b down where the new houses r been built.


Think i make a call to springwood &ask them but as always they say we ring you back never happens.

red25

They are buying the green field next to where the present phase is being built.
I do not think they will get planning permission for a second entrance. People will start using the estate to cut through in order to avoid that awful junction.

leonard1978

red25 wrote: »

They are buying the green field next to where the present phase is being built.
I do not think they will get planning permission for a second entrance. People will start using the estate to cut through in order to avoid that awful junction.

The planning permission was already approved by kildare county council.the builders have been approched to see when will it be happening.

That juction is awful people have been in contact with kildare county council for lights to go up or aroundabout to be put in.the argument still stands with kildare county council at the minute.

As creche or shops in the estate something id rather not have as it can attract gangs in years to come there is plenty of creches shops in walking distance of oldbridge as my children have been in i found them friendly.

Im not in the middle of oldbridge im in the new phase of oldbridge station but my house was built 8 years ago took them that long to start rebuilding again.

Over all its a great place to live neighbours people in the estate are very friendly.kids are grown up with manners.

The builders are a lost cause at the min.i will say it to ladies at the school.think they have all had arguments with the builders.the houses are not worth the money they are charging.

Sallins is a lovely place to live in generally.i moved up from dublin id never move back down.

Ms.Tea

I live in Oldbridge Station too, any interest in setting up a residents committee for anyone else living there too? I saw mr sweep cleaning the roads on Thursday night and Friday..very unusual!! Maybe this thread came to light?!

leonard1978

Ms.Tea wrote: »

I live in Oldbridge Station too, any interest in setting up a residents committee for anyone else living there too? I saw mr sweep cleaning the roads on Thursday night and Friday..very unusual!! Maybe this thread came to light?!

I didnt see anything where i am nobody comes down my rd im n bungalow at the end if the rd facing bk on to main rd.
Ive spoken with women from the estate today we r going to ring springwood start asking them whats going on.i drove down to see if colm was around but no sign of him.

Yep i think its a good idea if we stand a chance making it a safter cleaner place to live in.
In fairness its not looking to bad neither ive seen worse estates around in kildare dublin ireland.

Ms.Tea

I am in the new houses at the back we only got the keys at Christmas and I have to say us and the neighbours that we know of love the house inside the finish is excellent and I don't think the estate is bad considering it is a construction site, I also have seen worse. I think us residents can do our bit to tidy flower beds etc, we did ours at the front last week.

Yeah the road cleaning guy was around for about 2 hours Thursday night and again Friday afternoon and the road looked a lot better for the weekend. It would be nice if they kept that up. I heard from the lads on site the builder offered to give the land to the council for the new entrance but they don't want it! So I am not sure what's going on but some ramps, signs for children playing etc would be lovely and at least he does cut the grass, it's the little things like that you want to be nice!

lfcman42

I live in Oldbridge Station too. Here now 5 years in the terrace houses opposite the new ones.
When I bought here in 2009 the flower beds etc. were all looked after.
In some of the new houses the builder never even planted grass outside the houses!
I think a get together to set up some form of residents association is a great idea. I hope that 2nd entrance does not go ahead, our road is to narrow for the volume of cars that would use it!

leonard1978

Ms.Tea wrote: »

I am in the new houses at the back we only got the keys at Christmas and I have to say us and the neighbours that we know of love the house inside the finish is excellent and I don't think the estate is bad considering it is a construction site, I also have seen worse. I think us residents can do our bit to tidy flower beds etc, we did ours at the front last week.

Yeah the road cleaning guy was around for about 2 hours Thursday night and again Friday afternoon and the road looked a lot better for the weekend. It would be nice if they kept that up. I heard from the lads on site the builder offered to give the land to the council for the new entrance but they don't want it! So I am not sure what's going on but some ramps, signs for children playing etc would be lovely and at least he does cut the grass, it's the little things like that you want to be nice!

We are here 8 years now.they did clean the roads too while building was going on.your gardens are better finished than ours.

i sent email to some of the women in the estate to see what would they do would they be interested in setting up residence association or all contacting the builder see what happens.

i know theres alot of complaints against the builder mould in wardrobes coving falling down.my own toilets didnt work.try to give me kitchen door with hole in it just plastered over it i noticed it so they took the door out put it in two doors down.the shores get blocked.the theromstates never worked n our houses
the trees they put in bad winter they all die we all had to replace them after the snow in 2010.

lfcman42

All our hedges died that year too. Never replaced. My neighbours either side of me and myself we planted our own hedges.
At the end of our road there is a small green with 4 dead trees, never replaced.
A couple that keep their new house lovely had to come out last week to dig up weeds outside their house, the builder never planted grass there despite doing so in the other new houses!

Ms.Tea

Thanks it's actually my house opposite you that dug up our weeds at the patch where our tree is last weekend, we also tied up the trees all along our road as they were dying and my fiance can be often seen trying to fix the trees as they are so badly supported they are going to die otherwise. We would be both interested in doing a bit of maintenance work around the estate flower beds etc, it's our very first house so we would love to keep the estate as nice as possible

lfcman42 wrote: »

All our hedges died that year too. Never replaced. My neighbours either side of me and myself we planted our own hedges.
At the end of our road there is a small green with 4 dead trees, never replaced.
A couple that keep their new house lovely had to come out last week to dig up weeds outside their house, the builder never planted grass there despite doing so in the other new houses!

lfcman42

Fair dues to ye both. Ye have it lovely already.
The tree opposite me was dead, I bought the new one myself. Gave up asking the builder to do the same. I see one of the trees further up is already dead. When the trees are being planted it is just one of the workers that does it instead of getting a landscaper to do it.

Ms.Tea

Thanks a million..himself will be delighted! First time he ever lived in a housing estate so he wants to keep it nice, our next door neighbour said they will do the same at the patch near their house as they didn't plant grass there either. The back gardens are a joke though, we sunk every time we went near it for the first few months and we had to bring up soil and basically landscape it from scratch. Said it to the lads onsite but he didn't care. I worry about the proposed new road too though, our little road wouldn't be able for the volume of traffic! We would be part of the residents assoc though if there was to be one, maybe a meeting could be arranged, send around a few flyers and see who goes. The builders are going off site for the summer we were told to build an extension to their nursing home so the sooner the better to start hassling them about keeping Oldbridge a nice, safe place to live.

lfcman42 wrote: »

Fair dues to ye both. Ye have it lovely already.
The tree opposite me was dead, I bought the new one myself. Gave up asking the builder to do the same. I see one of the trees further up is already dead. When the trees are being planted it is just one of the workers that does it instead of getting a landscaper to do it.

lfcman42

My back garden was the same. It was like quicksand! I had to take mine up and got it landscaped in the end. This part of the site was a quarry so drainage here very poor. Glad the road got a clean, my car and house windows were filthy!
A few of the residents on my side would be def interested in setting up an association.

Ms.Tea

That makes sense about the drainage so, it's not good at all. I'm sure a couple of people on our row would be interested in the committee too (not that we know many!) but I know a few people in the other row of new houses who would be interested. An estate that size needs one I think, especially down the road when it comes to trying to get the council to take it over.

lfcman42

It would not bother me to go out and tidy up the flower beds etc. if the builder is not going to do it which seems to be the case as long as others get involved too and it is not left to a limited few to do all the work and they enjoy the benefits!

Plus we have to make sure that 2nd entrance to go ahead. Our little road would be like the M50 with traffic coming into the estate to avoid the Osberstown Junction.