Cost of clutch/flywheel replacement for Passat CC

bazz26

Folks, as the title says looks like my clutch is starting to slip.

Car was in for a service last month and they commented that the clutch felt a bit heavy. Didn't really notice it as my previous car had a heavy clutch also. Yesterday though when driving, the revs shot up and down again once or twice while in gear which seems to be a symptom of a clutch starting to slip.

I'm a bit peeved to say the least as I've never killed a clutch in all the cars I've owned and this one isn't 3 years old yet and only has 50k miles on it.

But that aside, before I start ringing around for prices tomorrow would anyone have an idea of how much a replacement clutch and DMF including labour, would cost. Just want a rough figure so I can know if prices I get are competitive.

BTW the car is a 2011 VW Passat CC 2.0 TDi (140bhp).

cabb8ge

Main dealer 1200 two year ago when friend got not cc passat clutch and flywheel, maybe 800 in independent.

bazz26

cabb8ge wrote: »

Main dealer 1200 two year ago when friend got not cc passat clutch and flywheel, maybe 800 in independent.

Thanks, should have mentioned I will be probably going with an indy.

XsApollo

Isn't that car still under warranty?

bazz26

XsApollo wrote: »

Isn't that car still under warranty?

It's an UK import and the third year is only covered by VW UK. VW Ireland only offered 2 years at the time. Clutch is considered a wear and tear part anyway.

XsApollo

Bummer.
50k is ridiculous eitherway.

George Dalton

€900 or so.

I doubt you would get a 6 speed CR clutch and flywheel done for €1200 in a dealer. I could be wrong though.

cabb8ge

Blackwater motors in cork special offer I think it was, 2.5 diesel Audi was that price too.

bazz26

Thanks guys. I might get a price from the main dealer just for curiosity.

mickdw

bazz26 wrote: »

It's an UK import and the third year is only covered by VW UK. VW Ireland only offered 2 years at the time. Clutch is considered a wear and tear part anyway.

So your car is under warranty If driven to a dealer in the north.
Now obviously clutch is wear and tear but if there has been another failure within the clutch other than wear it should be covered im thinking.

bazz26

mickdw wrote: »

So your car is under warranty If driven to a dealer in the north.
Now obviously clutch is wear and tear but if there has been another failure within the clutch other than wear it should be covered im thinking.

I hear what you are saying but the only way to find that out is by taking the clutch out and examining the parts.

MuppetCheck

I think it's worth a shot. No harm in trying a dealer up north and maybe compare prices before making the decision to go up and make a night away out of it? From my experience with VAGs goodwill gestures are common enough.

Sorry to hear you're having hassle with it though, at least afterwards you should have a clear run with it knowing it's done.

van_beano

Not a Passat but similar problem on a Seat Altea 1.9TDI IN 2012, paid €800 for a new clutch and had my DMF converted to an SMF, worked great afterwards. Work done by a Main Dealer.

My Thread on it at the time:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=81071791

Bigus

bazz26 wrote: »

Thanks guys. I might get a price from the main dealer just for curiosity.

Perhaps with a bit of goodwill thrown in.

Bigus

van_beano wrote: »

Not a Passat but similar problem on a Seat Altea 1.9TDI IN 2012, paid €800 for a new clutch and had my DMF converted to an SMF, worked great afterwards. Work done by a Main Dealer.

My Thread on it at the time:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=81071791

I wouldn't be so sure about converting a newish car to solid flywheel , it's not the way the drivetrain was designed.

mickdw

bazz26 wrote: »

I hear what you are saying but the only way to find that out is by taking the clutch out and examining the parts.

If you are sure of the mileage on the car, you should be fighting for something anyway.

van_beano

Bigus wrote: »

I wouldn't be so sure about converting a newish car to solid flywheel , it's not the way the drivetrain was designed.

I know absolutely nothing about cars so you're more than likely right on the mechanics of it. My car was hitting on 5 years when I got it done, the OP's car will be hitting on 3 years this year. From my own experience, after the work was done, I found absolutely no difference in driving the car and no excess vibrating since then.

bazz26

mickdw wrote: »

If you are sure of the mileage on the car, you should be fighting for something anyway.

Mileage is correct, the car was serviced by VW dealers in the UK, serviced by the non VW dealer that I bought it off over here and serviced last month by my local VW dealer.

Zane97

Give VW Newry a call. Lovely to deal with.

1jcdub

It's not usually the clutch that goes it's the dual mass flywheel. The springs become weak and this caused the flywheel to vibrate and in turn the clutch slips due to the vibration.
Bring it to the dealer in the north. They should replace the flywheel if it's gone but you'll have to pay for the clutch plate as it's a wearable item. The flywheel and clutch would cost about 700-750 plus fitting.A dealer would charge around 1250 Inc parts. LUK is the most common kit to buy. This is most likely what vw will fit just that it comes out of a vw box!
P.S a solid flywheel can't be fitted to a 140 or 170 engine.

Truckermal

Robbie G wrote: »

Give VW Newry a call. Lovely to deal with.

Bazz if you have no joy with the lads up north head up to George Dalton he is only up the motorway from you and does great work. I am shocked that its gone so quick though I have a B6 140 CR with 160K and no DMF trouble yet..

*Rubs plank of timber*.

1jcdub

One thing that does kill a dual mass flywheel is driving at low rpm where engine labours. If your doing lots of city driving it gives it a harder life.
Second that regarding George Dolton. Top guy and vw Audi specialist!

dgt

Robbie G wrote: »

Give VW Newry a call. Lovely to deal with.

That would be P&R on Merchants quay, grand people to deal with if the OP decides to get the ca sorted there

George Dalton

If I were the OP and I was planning on keeping the car long term I don't think I would bother chasing VW UK about this.

The reason being that after dragging the car to Newry even if they do replace the clutch FOC you will be faced with the choice of leaving the original flywheel in place or paying VW for a new one, and that won't be cheap.

So IMO you may as well pay for the whole job and get it done locally and save yourself a load of hassle.

Odyssey 2005

George Dalton wrote: »

€900 or so.

I doubt you would get a 6 speed CR clutch and flywheel done for €1200 in a dealer. I could be wrong though.

Paid €1326 last August for complete kit in a Skoda superb in main dealers, same engine and box as op's.

bazz26

Thanks guys, I'm going to make a few phone calls tomorrow and weigh up my options.

This is my 4th diesel car and never killed a clutch/dmf before. Car spends most of it's time on motorways and R roads, very small city driving. Of course I've only had it about 6 months so your really at the mercy of how the previous owner drove it I guess.

sawdoubters

maybe the place you brought it too messed with the clutch

find a mechanic that works for himself 200 euro

Truckermal

bazz26 wrote: »

Thanks guys, I'm going to make a few phone calls tomorrow and weigh up my options.

This is my 4th diesel car and never killed a clutch/dmf before. Car spends most of it's time on motorways and R roads, very small city driving. Of course I've only had it about 6 months so your really at the mercy of how the previous owner drove it I guess.

Any luck??

bazz26

Nothing good so far. As expected VW Ireland will not entertain it under warranty but said that the DMF is considered a wear and tear part anyway.

They suggested going up to a dealer in the North but also highlighted that the only way it would be covered is if it was proven that the DMF prematurely failed, which involves the dealer removing parts to get at it. The downside to this if there is no evidence of premature wear I'm left paying main dealer prices to replace the lot on top of the diagnostic and then there is the time factor of the car having to stay with the dealer for more than one day.

The other alternative they suggested was to pay for it to be changed myself by my local dealer and "try" to claim it back through VW UK. Again don't fancy my chances and end up paying main dealer prices. The car is booked in with my local dealer on Wednesday to investigate an oil smell from the cabin since it was serviced so I am going to get them to have a quick look at the clutch and get their opinion (though I have a feeling I know what they will say).

Also trying to get an international contact number for VW UK customer care tomorrow but their number only works from the UK. Dropped VW Germany an email earlier today for info around this and they said that it has been passed onto the correct area who will reply. If I get no joy by tomorrow afternoon I'm going to ring P&R up in Newry and see what their take is on it.

Haven't got any quotes yet but if and when it comes the time to get them I'll be giving George a ring. He has been very helpful on PM to me so far.

robertxxx

Very poor reliability from VW.

mickdw

Oil smell in the cabin - surely coming from the engine bay. Any possibility that the issue is some form of leak contaminating the clutch surface?