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Racist Ireland Stories

  • 01-02-2014 1:57pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭


    Hi All,

    See below. If you know something similar, feel free to write it down.
    (The intention here is to observe racism, not to be racist)

    1. In 2007, on the hit show “I Dare Ya”, the presenters were challenged to drive a taxi around Dublin with a homemade cardboard taxi sign on its roof. Someone took a photo which then spread around rapidly through email. When the presenter’s got back to the office, they saw emails with subject titles “Polish Taxi Driver in Dublin”, “Lithuanian Taxi Driver in Dublin”, “Latvian Taxi Driver in Dublin”, and the like.

    2.Script from a case in the High Court:
    Prosecutor: “Can you please point out the person in the court who attacked you”
    Victim: “Yeah, he’s that black guy over there”
    Defence: “Objection, can you please identify him without making reference to the colour of his skin”
    Victim: “He’s that guy over there between the two white guys”


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Another racism thread?
    This'll end well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Hi All,

    See below. If you know something similar, feel free to write it down.
    (The intention here is to observe racism, not to be racist)

    1. In 2007, on the hit show “I Dare Ya”, the presenters were challenged to drive a taxi around Dublin with a homemade cardboard taxi sign on its roof. Someone took a photo which then spread around rapidly through email. When the presenter’s got back to the office, they saw emails with subject titles “Polish Taxi Driver in Dublin”, “Lithuanian Taxi Driver in Dublin”, “Latvian Taxi Driver in Dublin”, and the like.

    2.Script from a case in the High Court:
    Prosecutor: “Can you please point out the person in the court who attacked you”
    Victim: “Yeah, he’s that black guy over there”
    Defence: “Objection, can you please identify him without making reference to the colour of his skin”
    Victim: “He’s that guy over there between the two white guys”

    Black is back being racist now/again ? tell me how you would describe that person not knowing his country of origin or are we going to use that African American guy over there even though he maybe an aboriginal samoan or other nation...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    Another racism thread?
    This'll end well.

    Another "this'll end well" post.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They're not really very good examples of racism OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭Sponge25


    My god, saying the "black guy over there" is NOT racist.

    I know black people have legitimate grievances but they whinge way too much. Irish people went trough the same stuff for a long time and we don't cry about it. We're proud of being white.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    Hi All,

    See below. If you know something similar, feel free to write it down.
    (The intention here is to observe racism, not to be racist)

    1. In 2007, on the hit show “I Dare Ya”, the presenters were challenged to drive a taxi around Dublin with a homemade cardboard taxi sign on its roof. Someone took a photo which then spread around rapidly through email. When the presenter’s got back to the office, they saw emails with subject titles “Polish Taxi Driver in Dublin”, “Lithuanian Taxi Driver in Dublin”, “Latvian Taxi Driver in Dublin”, and the like.

    2.Script from a case in the High Court:
    Prosecutor: “Can you please point out the person in the court who attacked you”
    Victim: “Yeah, he’s that black guy over there”
    Defence: “Objection, can you please identify him without making reference to the colour of his skin”
    Victim: “He’s that guy over there between the two white guys”

    What in the name of suffering Jesus are you ****ing blowing on about, that's not racism, this is ****ing racism;

    The ideology behind lynching, directly connected with denial of political and social equality, was stated forthrightly by Benjamin Tillman, governor of South Carolina and later a United States Senator:
    We of the South have never recognized the right of the negro to govern white men, and we never will. We have never believed him to be the equal of the white man, and we will not submit to his gratifying his lust on our wives and daughters without lynching him.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sponge25 wrote: »
    My god, saying the "black guy over there" is NOT racist.

    I know black people have legitimate grievances but they whinge way too much. Irish people went trough the same stuff for a long time and we don't cry about it. We're proud of being white.

    Are we?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭Sponge25


    Yeah - The Irish people are well known for being proud of their nation and culture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Are we?

    Aren't you? Should be proud of who you are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,336 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    An acquaintance of mine (can't call him a friend as he's a prick) once refused to get into a taxi because the driver was black. That's racism.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    Sponge25 wrote: »
    Yeah - The Irish people are well known for being proud of their nation and culture.
    That doesn't include skin colour.

    How can you be proud of a genetic trait that you can't control? Are you proud of your eye colour, height, genetic predisposition to certain diseases etc?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    I think the O.P has gone Bananas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 Peter Tork


    In 1992 I got burnt to a crisp in Slane. For weeks I was referred to as a 'long haired lobster".

    For that reason I was fully behind the Dunnes Stores workers strike, so people would no longer get treated differently just because of the colour of their skin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭dickface


    An acquaintance of mine (can't call him a friend as he's a prick) once refused to get into a taxi because the driver was black. That's racism.

    No it isn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭Sponge25


    Being white is part of the Celtic race, so yes, i'm proud of it. I'm proud of my height (6ft4), my blue eyes and fair hair, my manner, all of which I inherited. Just because we cannot control it, doesn't mean we can't be proud of it.

    No person on Earth can help where they were born but I'm just lucky to be born to a culture I love.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭Sponge25


    hahahaha. You've had a racist experience then? lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 ScaliaJ


    2.Script from a case in the High Court:
    Prosecutor: “Can you please point out the person in the court who attacked you”
    Victim: “Yeah, he’s that black guy over there”
    Defence: “Objection, can you please identify him without making reference to the colour of his skin”
    Victim: “He’s that guy over there between the two white guys”

    "Objection" is an Americanism, never heard in Irish courts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    i witnessed an African lady giving terrible abuse to a eastern European girl who was serving her in KFC


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Aren't you? Should be proud of who you are.


    "Who" you are, is not the same as "what" you are. I have no control over what I am, but I have control over who I am, and so I can be proud of the fact that I'm quite well educated, but being proud of something I had no hand in?

    Well that's just silly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    dickface wrote: »
    No it isn't.

    Hi dickface. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭dickface


    Hi dickface. :)

    Is it racist for someone to go out of their way and only buy Irish produce?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    ScaliaJ wrote: »
    "Objection" is an Americanism, never heard in Irish courts.

    Sustained.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    dickface wrote: »
    Is it racist for someone to go out of their way and only buy Irish produce?

    It most certainly isn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭Sponge25


    It most certainly isn't.

    If that's racist then i'm the biggest racist on earth.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sponge25 wrote: »
    I'm proud of my height (6ft4), my blue eyes and fair hair, my manner, all of which I inherited. Just because we cannot control it, doesn't mean we can't be proud of it..

    Sure you're not German?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    I'm sure if I went and lived in Nigeria I would be referred to as the white guy or some such term. But I wouldn't get upset over it as people need to be able to point out someone quickly in some instances. Now if I was working in Nigeria and in my office I was been referred to in such a manner it would bother me. It all depends on the situation. There's a lot of people who relish throwing out the race chant as if it makes them superior.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    Easily the worst thread of the day, and there is stiff competition out there.
    No racist offence meant to the other threads of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭Spunge


    Actual racial hatred is not tolerated in ireland.
    except for travellers and roma gypsies, thats grand.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭moc moc a moc


    i witnessed an African lady giving terrible abuse to a eastern European girl who was serving her in KFC

    That's just the way Nigerian women talk; she didn't mean any offence by it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Smug 1,500 metre runners always look down on us Egg & Spoon aficionados! :mad:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Here in Dundalk were not racist, we just hate everyone


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Sponge25 wrote: »
    they whinge way too much.

    Aaaaaand we're off...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭Monkeybonkers


    I once logged in to a site called Boards and looked at a forum called After Hours. Nearly every thread on there was rascist.

    True story bra!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭tdv123


    Sponge25 wrote: »
    Being white is part of the Celtic race, so yes, i'm proud of it. I'm proud of my height (6ft4), my blue eyes and fair hair, my manner, all of which I inherited. Just because we cannot control it, doesn't mean we can't be proud of it.

    No person on Earth can help where they were born but I'm just lucky to be born to a culture I love.

    I for one welcome our new Aryan overlords.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 361 ✭✭Filibuster


    Spunge wrote: »
    Actual racial hatred is not tolerated in ireland.
    except for travellers and roma gypsies, thats grand.

    Well you can't be racist towards travellers when they are not a separate race.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Filibuster wrote: »
    Well you can't be racist towards travellers when they are not a separate race.

    Let's not go there, please ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Dermighty


    Spunge wrote: »
    Actual racial hatred is not tolerated in ireland.
    except for travellers and roma gypsies, thats grand.

    Nobody cares about them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭Sponge25


    Sure you're not German?

    Positive. Although I admire the Germans.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sponge25 wrote: »
    Positive. Although I admire the Germans.

    I never would have guessed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭qapmoc


    I remember in school our history teacher telling us about burning everything British but their coal. Was that racist?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭Sponge25


    I never would have guessed.

    So what's wrong with admiring the disciplined, principled Germans?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    The OP's second point ( I don't even understand the first one) reminds me of a story I read in a recent psychological study.

    Here's the study. A group of university educated whites were asked to describe a man by his features in a video. ( the man was doing something illegal). The man was always black. Watching the white liberals do this ( via a hidden camera) were black Americans who were asked to judge how racist they thought the whites were.

    60% of the whites refused to describe the guy as black, or blackness as a distinguishing feature. Everybody else in the video they watched was white.

    Meanwhile, blacks watching the watchers were more likely to assume these guys who were reluctant to say "black" were racist than the 40% of whites who said "he's black" or "he's African American". The black people watching the whites would have said black ( and in fact when black people were introduced to the video feed they universally did).

    In short the term black isn't racist, people too reluctant to use it might be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭Terry1985


    Well if you're looking for real racist stories then how about the racist mob that attacked 5 people leaving them with horrific injuries in temple bar, Dublin in 2011.

    http://www.herald.ie/news/race-hate-gang-in-temple-bar-orgy-of-violence-27984181.html

    By the way, the mob were African attacking Irish people...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭Sponge25


    The OP's second point ( I don't even understand the first one) reminds me of a story I read in a recent psychological study.

    Here's the study. A group of university educated whites were asked to describe a man by his features in a video. ( the man was doing something illegal). The man was always black. Watching the white liberals do this ( via a hidden camera) were black Americans who were asked to judge how racist they thought the whites were.

    60% of the whites refused to describe the guy as black, or blackness as a distinguishing feature. Everybody else in the video they watched was white.

    Meanwhile, blacks watching the watchers were more likely to assume these guys who were reluctant to say "black" were racist than the 40% of whites who said "he's black" or "he's African American". The black people watching the whites would have said black ( and in fact when black people were introduced to the video feed they universally did).

    In short the term black isn't racist, people too reluctant to use it might be.

    They're more likely to be afraid to say black people than racist. Racist people are usually highly principled and will declare those principles openly, even in the face of violence. etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    Sponge25 wrote: »
    They're more likely to be afraid to say black people than racist. Racist people are usually highly principled and will declare those principles openly, even in the face of violence. etc.

    Isn't storm front ->. ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭Sponge25


    Isn't storm front ->. ?

    huh?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 369 ✭✭Friend Computer


    Sponge25 wrote: »
    huh?

    Stormfront.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    But back to this

    Prosecutor: “Can you please point out the person in the court who attacked you”
    Victim: “Yeah, he’s that black guy over there”
    Defence: “Objection, can you please identify him without making reference to the colour of his skin”
    Victim: “He’s that guy over there between the two white guys”


    Perfectly reasonable description. If he said "the red headed guy over there" or whatever. In the study above the racists would be the people getting "upset" by a normal use of a descriptive feature.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Sponge25 wrote: »
    They're more likely to be afraid to say black people than racist. Racist people are usually highly principled and will declare those principles openly, even in the face of violence. etc.


    Ehh, I'm genuinely curious to know how you formed that opinion given that racism is borne of ignorance and not principles, and the fact that racists will often not declare their opinions openly for fear of reprisal, but in the company of other people of a racist mindset, they will find strength in numbers and are quite prone to incite violence when they get together, rather than being in the face of it.


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