Calving camera recommendation

Henwin

hiya, my poor fiancee is pretty worn out getting up every night at 2 and 4 checking on cows near calving and so is thinking of getting a calving camera.
I know there are other camera threads on the forum but I have a few specific questions for ye.
Neither of us are technically minded when it comes to technology so go easy if ye cam on the lingo.

Ok, his calving house is about 400 from his house but there is a big shed in the way.
He doesnt have any internet access or modem in the house.
The shed has yet to be wired for lights- (hopefully in the next year or two it will)
so a camera that has night vision will be needed.
As we are getting married at the end of the year my fiancee will move over to my house which is 5 miles away for a few years anyway. I have internet access here and an android phone so could ye recommend a camera that could be accessed miles away.
He rang one company and he has ones for 200, 400 and 600 where he puts an aerial on the obstructing shed.

So any thoughts and advice would be greatly appreciated.

adne

Shed n way would not be an issue. Has he internet n home house? Could stream a feed from shed to home house on a local network then feed out to internet from home house.
that way he could check while away from home.
Lots of camera options. Try go for a h.264 format camera.

SKIPPY150

Got the cow cam from Glanbia 2 years ago, cost me 450 I think . Best money I ever spent. It has a range of 1200 metres but needs line of sight but you could get over this with a second ariel on the obstructing shed. Got aan upgrade kit for it this year so that I can get the feed on my fone, cost 250. But you will need internet at the home house. Would never go back

PureBred

Get a 3 prepay mobile dongle in the shed. Topup it up during calving season.

Connect a IP PTZ camera to it in the shed.

You can connect to it from your android phone from anywhere not just your house 5 miles away.

Huawei 3 mobile dongle E5220 €50
IP Camera - from €100 for fixed to €250 for PTZ.

Total €300 max and then topup modem when required.

Conmaicne Mara

PureBred wrote: »

Get a 3 prepay mobile dongle in the shed. Topup it up during calving season.

Connect a IP PTZ camera to it in the shed.

You can connect to it from your android phone from anywhere not just your house 5 miles away.

Huawei 3 mobile dongle E5220 €50
IP Camera - from €100 for fixed to €250 for PTZ.

Total €300 max and then topup modem when required.

Can ya run all that set up without mains power? Something I'd be interested in.

td5man

Aldi camera €60, 100m line of sight works perfectly.
Will upgrade to ptz someday.

PureBred

Henwin wrote: »

The shed has yet to be wired for lights- (hopefully in the next year or two it will)so a camera that has night vision will be needed.

I presumed the shed has power.

hugo29

adne set up something similar for me (to what purebred said above) only i have internet provider in lieu of dongle, upload speed on dongle was to slow. Negotiate a deal with internet provider for 6 month supply and I paid up front for free installation
chat to him

loveta

Have 3 cameras in here through the internet good job but i am in the process of putting in a PTZ one at the minute i rang a few different guys and they all tell me "be it sales talk/lies" i dont know but to stay clear of the cheaper ptz cameras by that i mean 2-300 euro ones and go with the 6-700 euro ones because there is a very poor life span of the cheaper ones and you will be out it in the long run.

Henwin

Thanks for the replys.
There is no internet access in his home house.
The shed hasnt power yet either. Its in the 3 year plan,as well as automatic scrapers and the cameras.

Parishlad

If it was me I would be getting the power in first. At least then he could put up some lights. I understand the hardship in having to travel a bit to check on cows calving but having light in the shed would be vital imho. Budget may not be there at the minute to get a connection but for all the items on the wish list power will be required so I would see this as the first step.

adne

Henwin wrote: »

Thanks for the replys.
There is no internet access in his home house.
The shed hasnt power yet either. Its in the 3 year plan,as well as automatic scrapers and the cameras.

You wont be able to get any solution n place until you put power in shed.
This should b done before considering getting cameras

adne

loveta wrote: »

Have 3 cameras in here through the internet good job but i am in the process of putting in a PTZ one at the minute i rang a few different guys and they all tell me "be it sales talk/lies" i dont know but to stay clear of the cheaper ptz cameras by that i mean 2-300 euro ones and go with the 6-700 euro ones because there is a very poor life span of the cheaper ones and you will be out it in the long run.

Id partially agree. Ptz cams are not a gr8 job unless go with decent model and ensure you have decent internet.

Would not agree with those prices. Can get an excellent ptz for 350

loveta

adne wrote: »

Id partially agree. Ptz cams are not a gr8 job unless go with decent model and ensure you have decent internet.

Would not agree with those prices. Can get an excellent ptz for 350

Could you pm me some of the brands/models that you would class top quailty? thank you.

PureBred

I bought a PTZ on ebay 3 years ago and no issues with it. I know 3-4 more guys who have bought same model as calving camera's and they have no issue either.

Here is link to one of them.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PTZ-Wireless-IP-WaterProof-Outdoor-IP-Camera-3X-Optical-Zoom-IR-Cut-CCTV-Network-/301065882310?pt=UK_Gadgets&hash=item4618eccac6

Its a Wansview brand camera. Perfect for the job.

ellewood

adne wrote: »

Id partially agree. Ptz cams are not a gr8 job unless go with decent model and ensure you have decent internet.

Would not agree with those prices. Can get an excellent ptz for 350

What's the minimum upload speed ud want for an internet camera?
would 1mbps do?

hugo29

ellewood wrote: »

What's the minimum upload speed ud want for an internet camera?
would 1mbps do?

Think so

just do it

ellewood wrote: »

What's the minimum upload speed ud want for an internet camera?
would 1mbps do?

More than enough. I'm working with less and no issues.

Conmaicne Mara

adne wrote: »

You wont be able to get any solution n place until you put power in shed.
This should b done before considering getting cameras

I've been investigating this

How about a 12v to 240v inverter on a battery? Battery to inverter to camera/internet dongle.

Not sure how the power draw/top up would work in that instance.

adne

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

I've been investigating this

How about a 12v to 240v inverter on a battery? Battery to inverter to camera/internet dongle.

Not sure how the power draw/top up would work in that instance.

Guntering. Some fooks out of ya at 3am when battery dead n ur checking a cow that due.
Get The 'letric' in

Conmaicne Mara

adne wrote: »

Guntering. Some fooks out of ya at 3am when battery dead n ur checking a cow that due.
Get The 'letric' in

€1,800 for a connection, haven't a notion!

hugo29

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

€1,800 for a connection, haven't a notion!

Not for an agricultural connection

Conmaicne Mara

hugo29 wrote: »

Not for an agricultural connection

Yes, I looked into it last year for an electric fence

hugo29

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Yes, I looked into it last year for an electric fence

Jayus, agri connections used to be cheaper,

Could you not tap the fence of the house

Conmaicne Mara

hugo29 wrote: »

Jayus, agri connections used to be cheaper,

Could you not tap the fence of the house

I live miles away, sister has a house there but refused me before when I asked about a proper job with meter etc.

hugo29

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

I live miles away, sister has a house there but refused me before when I asked about a proper job with meter etc.

Get a solar powered battery fencer, great job, got one last year on muckits recommendation,

Conmaicne Mara

hugo29 wrote: »

Get a solar powered battery fencer, great job, got one last year on muckits recommendation,

I got a solar panel, and battery operated fencer, just need the battery and a few bits and pieces.

loveta

hugo29 wrote: »

Not for an agricultural connection

Paid something like that back in the mid 00s for a power upgrade :mad:

farmerboy

Hi lads

I got a camera from this fella, http://www.agricamera.ie/, he fits it for you 2,
best money i have spent in a long time, connects it to internet for you 2

satstheway

PureBred wrote: »

Get a 3 prepay mobile dongle in the shed. Topup it up during calving season.

Connect a IP PTZ camera to it in the shed.

You can connect to it from your android phone from anywhere not just your house 5 miles away.

Huawei 3 mobile dongle E5220 €50
IP Camera - from €100 for fixed to €250 for PTZ.

Total €300 max and then topup modem when required.

.

How do you get 3g to work with dvr or ip camera.
They wont give me a static or even dynamic ip address and I went eircom in the end . But I do have another remote shed to do with no connection.

Timmaay

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

I've been investigating this

How about a 12v to 240v inverter on a battery? Battery to inverter to camera/internet dongle.

Not sure how the power draw/top up would work in that instance.

I can't imagine the camera will draw much current at all, certainly not if it has any sort of sleep mode. I'd say this will work fine, just make sure you get a decent battery, likes of a campervan deep cycle leasure battery are designed for this sort of job, you could even hook up a cheap enough solar panel to keep the whole lot charged. Should be no need at all for an inverter, the camera shouldn't operate off more than 12volts, so just get a small transformer/regular which reduces the battery 12 (to 15) volts down to whatever the camera needs. A small bit of work to all of the above, but it will be well cheaper than an 1800quid esb connection charge. At a guess the leasure battery will be something around 200quid, and say 50 for a good enough solar panel.

just do it

Hello good bye farmerboy!

onyerbikepat

Funny, but all the guys that try to promote their own products and services on here, always seem to stand out like a sore thump.

renandstimpy

PureBred wrote: »

I presumed the shed has power.

In Fairness i think anything your going to put in shed is going to need some form of mains power ... i could be wrong , maybe there is batterys out there strong enough .

adne

Timmaay wrote: »

I can't imagine the camera will draw much current at all, certainly not if it has any sort of sleep mode. I'd say this will work fine, just make sure you get a decent battery, likes of a campervan deep cycle leasure battery are designed for this sort of job, you could even hook up a cheap enough solar panel to keep the whole lot charged. Should be no need at all for an inverter, the camera shouldn't operate off more than 12volts, so just get a small transformer/regular which reduces the battery 12 (to 15) volts down to whatever the camera needs. A small bit of work to all of the above, but it will be well cheaper than an 1800quid esb connection charge. At a guess the leasure battery will be something around 200quid, and say 50 for a good enough solar panel.

Its not just the camera that will need power. You ll also need power for either a router or switch.
You would also need decent nightvision on the camera as youve no lights. This will draw a lot of power too.
Bite the bullet in get the electricity connected. Your night vet will appreciate it

Farrell

We're using a swann dvr with a ptz camera, netgear adapter with a huawei router everything working great during the day. But dead loss at night. Have any of you got a solution?

just do it

A light in the shed

Farrell

just do it wrote: »

A light in the shed

Can't leave it on all the time
More thinking infrared etc

Parishlad

Infrared can be hit and miss. You could think about putting a timer on one of the lights in the shed. You could time the light to come on periodically throughout the night and check in at the same times.

loveta

Farrell wrote: »

Can't leave it on all the time
More thinking infrared etc

Why can you not leave it on all the time?

just do it

Farrell wrote: »

Can't leave it on all the time
More thinking infrared etc

I've mine on all the time and it's an open-shed next to a road. Infra red is ok but not as good having a light on.

hugo29

just do it wrote: »

I've mine on all the time and it's an open-shed next to a road. Infra red is ok but not as good having a light on.

+1

jt65

just do it wrote: »

I've mine on all the time and it's an open-shed next to a road. Infra red is ok but not as good having a light on.

we use a sensor which knocks off the light if not needed,

using 2 cameras , (calving pens are in L shaped shed) an old analogue & a modern infra red

prefer the older set up

hugo29

i have infa red on mine and its the dogs...., its also in colour

Zimmerframe

Farrell wrote: »

We're using a swann dvr with a ptz camera, netgear adapter with a huawei router everything working great during the day. But dead loss at night. Have any of you got a solution?

Assuming you have a smartphone to view the Swann Dvr, use a Wemo switch €49
Wire your lights to it, or wire a shiny new led floodlight to it, and switch it on remotely.

Parishlad

Not very familiar with Wemo switches. Do you just download an app to connect to the switch? Is there any limitation on distance?

Zimmerframe

Parishlad wrote: »

Not very familiar with Wemo switches. Do you just download an app to connect to the switch? Is there any limitation on distance?

The Wemo switch wirelessly connects to your router, thus the internet and an app on your phone simply switches it ON/OFF as you wish, so no limitation on distance.

Farrell

Zimmerframe wrote: »

Assuming you have a smartphone to view the Swann Dvr, use a Wemo switch €49
Wire your lights to it, or wire a shiny new led floodlight to it, and switch it on remotely.

I like that idea. There's 2 sheds side by side, (1 is for calving), could it control both, or would I need 2 switchs

Zimmerframe

It will control anything you plug into it, so you could run a couple of lights together, or get separate switches. Harvey Norman had a 20% off "networking" sale a while back, so got a few that cost me €40 each. At that price they are hard to beat for value.

Google "Lightwaverf" and you will see another more expensive system, but could be viable if you have many items you wanted to control on your network.

Midfield9

PureBred wrote: »

Get a 3 prepay mobile dongle in the shed. Topup it up during calving season.

Connect a IP PTZ camera to it in the shed.

You can connect to it from your android phone from anywhere not just your house 5 miles away.

Huawei 3 mobile dongle E5220 €50
IP Camera - from €100 for fixed to €250 for PTZ.

Total €300 max and then topup modem when required.

Ive been thinking about setting up a camera for a while now. Looking at going down the 3 dongle route. Both where the father lives and i live are away from the yard. No line of sight. I would like to give it a go setting it up myself. More satisfaction!

Done a search on here and ive read most of the treads on here about cameras but i have a few questions. I already have a spare dongle thats less than a year old so would just have to get a payg sim and camera obviously

Is an app required on your phone/laptop to view? How do you move/zoom the camera?

The way you explained it seems to simple Could you go into a bit more detail. I believe i need a fixed ip address. Can this be got from 3?

Deepsouthwest

PureBred wrote: »

Get a 3 prepay mobile dongle in the shed. Topup it up during calving season.

Connect a IP PTZ camera to it in the shed.

You can connect to it from your android phone from anywhere not just your house 5 miles away.

Huawei 3 mobile dongle E5220 €50
IP Camera - from €100 for fixed to €250 for PTZ.

Total €300 max and then topup modem when required.

How much to top up ur mobile dongle with 3? I heard it can add up quite quickly