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Is there a youth club / cafe in Maynooth ?

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  • 25-01-2014 8:38pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 20


    HI,
    is there a youth club / cafe in Maynooth ?

    If so , where is it, what has it got to offer, when is it open, who can use it & who runs/ owns it .


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,983 ✭✭✭Raminahobbin


    I'm fairly certain there isn't in Maynooth, but there's one in Celbridge. Contact details are via The Mill page, here. I don't know anything about it though, sorry!


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 yesitcanbedone


    thanks i took a look at that one, heres a quote...
    " Currently we are only open for those in senior cycle or aged between 15-19, every Thursday from 8-10pm."
    2 hours a week !!!!!!!!!!!! really ? dissapointing to say the least.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,983 ✭✭✭Raminahobbin


    Don't always go by websites that could be out of date, no harm to contact and ask. They might know of somewhere else or their hours might have changed.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,953 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    Is there not a Foróige youth club?


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 yesitcanbedone


    Moonbeam wrote: »
    Is there not a Foróige youth club?

    Where ? Do you mean in Maynooth ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭Wordless


    HI,
    is there a youth club / cafe in Maynooth ?

    If so , where is it, what has it got to offer, when is it open, who can use it & who runs/ owns it .


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    There was one around Manor Mills, not sure if it is still running though,


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,953 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    Where ? Do you mean in Maynooth ?

    Yes,there was one in the community space and the community space has moved but the youth club may still exist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭Wordless


    Moonbeam wrote: »
    Yes,there was one in the community space and the community space has moved but the youth club may still exist.

    That was the one I was on about. I do think that something happened to it with regards the running of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    Wordless wrote: »
    That was the one I was on about. I do think that something happened to it with regards the running of it.

    As far as I'm aware it's still running. I'll make a phonecall tomorrow and find out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭Wordless


    Moonbeam wrote: »
    Yes,there was one in the community space and the community space has moved but the youth club may still exist.
    Orion wrote: »
    As far as I'm aware it's still running. I'll make a phonecall tomorrow and find out.

    Cool, and I was reading my post again it could be read as it wasn't been run properly which is not what I intended!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 68,505 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Where has the community space moved to?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    Looks like it is gone but the person I spoke to wasn't too sure - she said there never was one! I know it ran on Thursdays in the Community space. I've mailed someone who was directly involved and I'll confirm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 yesitcanbedone


    Yes..so far iv found there was one in manor mills..but its closed..im sure the organisationstill exists but where ?!
    Why did it only open one night per week..
    When i say a youth club i mean a club house as such..open every evening/ night ....some where for them to
    " hang out" socialise etc etc.
    ..not a meeting up once a week senario ..i can't see that working at all..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭Wordless


    Orion wrote: »
    Looks like it is gone but the person I spoke to wasn't too sure - she said there never was one! I know it ran on Thursdays in the Community space. I've mailed someone who was directly involved and I'll confirm.


    It did run on a Thursday I don't think it was Foroige though. It is very difficult to get a club up and running that opens every night. I have been involved in helping with two: one was the Culture Factory in Newbridge and they managed to get a CD recorded and a poetry book published to raise funds however a premises couldn't be found. There was also a centre that was meant to go ahead in Kildare Town which, it was hoped, would serve the whole county: they had the space but not the funds!!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,953 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    MYOB wrote: »
    Where has the community space moved to?

    Down beside the school uniform shop.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,505 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Moonbeam wrote: »
    Down beside the school uniform shop.

    Saw lights on there but the To Let sign remaining on it threw me.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,953 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    I think it might be very temporary.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 yesitcanbedone


    What is a "community space" , it sounds like a term used by those annoying interior designers on t.v...
    Is it a room controled by Maynooth community council that teenagers can go into for 2 hours on 1 day of the week.
    as this seems to have been the case in the past..
    I dont mean to sound as if im criticising the work people have put into doing that, I applause such effort.
    but
    I would like to see Maynooth have a full time dedicated youth club, with the kids interests first and foremost
    too many of our kids have nothing to do or no where to go, except hang around manor mills, tesco, super macs , mac donalds,
    the harbour, canal banks or the graveyard....

    Funding is the major hurdle in doing this, I doubt anything would be given by the government,
    and you can hardly cross the road these days without some one rattling a fund raising bucket at you.
    I would suggest for a youth club to succeed ,it be run as a business, but set up as a club, being owned by the members (the teenagers )
    This would require the support of a lot of people,
    To give an idea of the kinda thing I think would work is a large "space", but with different areas, for different groups, with a lot of big couches, bean bags etc, several tv screens for sports, music, regular tv, a few xboxes & play stations, wifi, computers for internet access, pool table, table tennis, phone chargers, a shop, (sweets, crisps drinks tea/ coffee , milk ,sandwiches)
    Im thowing out a rough idea of a youth club that would be a place for teenagers to feel comfortable, safe and able to relax and be themselves, a place to hang out.
    Again, I know funding would be the big issue, but that aside........
    WHAT DO YOU THINK


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭Wordless


    What is a "community space" , it sounds like a term used by those annoying interior designers on t.v...
    Is it a room controled by Maynooth community council that teenagers can go into for 2 hours on 1 day of the week.
    as this seems to have been the case in the past..
    I dont mean to sound as if im criticising the work people have put into doing that, I applause such effort.
    but
    I would like to see Maynooth have a full time dedicated youth club, with the kids interests first and foremost
    too many of our kids have nothing to do or no where to go, except hang around manor mills, tesco, super macs , mac donalds,
    the harbour, canal banks or the graveyard....

    Funding is the major hurdle in doing this, I doubt anything would be given by the government,
    and you can hardly cross the road these days without some one rattling a fund raising bucket at you.
    I would suggest for a youth club to succeed ,it be run as a business, but set up as a club, being owned by the members (the teenagers )
    This would require the support of a lot of people,
    To give an idea of the kinda thing I think would work is a large "space", but with different areas, for different groups, with a lot of big couches, bean bags etc, several tv screens for sports, music, regular tv, a few xboxes & play stations, wifi, computers for internet access, pool table, table tennis, phone chargers, a shop, (sweets, crisps drinks tea/ coffee , milk ,sandwiches)
    Im thowing out a rough idea of a youth club that would be a place for teenagers to feel comfortable, safe and able to relax and be themselves, a place to hang out.
    Again, I know funding would be the big issue, but that aside........
    WHAT DO YOU THINK

    This is exactly what was tried in Newbridge with the Culture Factory (we also wanted a recording space and a drama space). We actually raised a bit of money the difficulty lay in renting a premises it was just too expensive. The situation you describe for teenagers isn't unique to Maynooth, it is replicated throughout the county.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,953 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    Talk to Foróige ,we ran the youth club and they ran the youth café.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20 yesitcanbedone


    Wordless wrote: »
    The situation you describe for teenagers isn't unique to Maynooth, it is replicated throughout the county.

    it replicated world wide... but cant we try ro improve our situation for our kids.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭Wordless


    it replicated world wide... but cant we try ro improve our situation for our kids.

    Of course, I haven't suggested otherwise. To be clear what I meant by it being replicated county wise is this: within a small area we often have a lot in common and therefore we can learn from each other. I think your idea is excellent: a small group of people thought likewise and they set about fundraising. What they realised is that to have the type of area they wanted they would need a large space. Business' were approached, fund raising gigs/table quizzes arranged and the press contacted. They managed to get a CD out there [Luka Bloom and Christy Moore were among the artists on it] gig was held to launch it. A poetry book (written by students from local schools) was printed. A lot of people gave of their time and effort. In the end what happened was the rents were too high for the type of place needed (the group were originally looking at the old Oscar cinema) and it never happened.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 yesitcanbedone


    Moonbeam wrote: »
    Talk to Foróige ,we ran the youth club and they ran the youth café.

    do you mean in Maynooth


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 yesitcanbedone


    Wordless wrote: »
    This is exactly what was tried in Newbridge with the Culture Factory (we also wanted a recording space and a drama space). We actually raised a bit of money the difficulty lay in renting a premises it was just too expensive. The situation you describe for teenagers isn't unique to Maynooth, it is replicated throughout the county.

    sounds interesting, did they get as far as having any kind of premises as a youth club... how long ago was this.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,953 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    do you mean in Maynooth


    No, I had no involvement with the one in Maynooth due to too many small children:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭Wordless


    sounds interesting, did they get as far as having any kind of premises as a youth club... how long ago was this.

    Sorry I read this after I clarified my previous post. I think it started around 2010 and only ended last year. The real problem was getting the premises and it never happened because of that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 yesitcanbedone


    Wordless wrote: »
    Of course, I haven't suggested otherwise. To be clear what I meant by it being replicated county wise is this: within a small area we often have a lot in common and therefore we can learn from each other. I think your idea is excellent: a small group of people thought likewise and they set about fundraising. What they realised is that to have the type of area they wanted they would need a large space. Business' were approached, fund raising gigs/table quizzes arranged and the press contacted. They managed to get a CD out there [Luka Bloom and Christy Moore were among the artists on it] gig was held to launch it. A poetry book (written by students from local schools) was printed. A lot of people gave of their time and effort. In the end what happened was the rents were too high for the type of place needed (the group were originally looking at the old Oscar cinema) and it never happened.

    Hi, I wonder was there any type of business plan written for the venture, if there was , it would be of great help to see it.
    The old cinema is a big room.....probably with big rent. Was this the 1st attempt at setting it up or was it to improve a smaller youth club already running.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭Wordless


    Hi, I wonder was there any type of business plan written for the venture, if there was , it would be of great help to see it.
    The old cinema is a big room.....probably with big rent. Was this the 1st attempt at setting it up or was it to improve a smaller youth club already running.

    There are smaller youth clubs etc in the town but like yourself they liked the idea of separate areas (particularly for band practice and a studio for recording) There would have been a business plan. I will try to see can I get it for you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 yesitcanbedone


    Wordless wrote: »
    There are smaller youth clubs etc in the town but like yourself they liked the idea of separate areas (particularly for band practice and a studio for recording) There would have been a business plan. I will try to see can I get it for you.


    Much appreciated, as is your input on the topic..

    My idea for different areas would be for the likes of a group watching a match on the couches, (which Everton would win of course) while another group could be playing xbox, and another just having a chat, it could be the same open plan room, but separated in a different way other than walls..iv seen this done effectively but its hard to describe with out the visual.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭joey100


    From someone who works in youth work and has lived in Maynooth. I'm also currently in the middle of establishing a youth cafe style drop in in Dublin, I'd say there are a few problems.

    For a project like this to be successful it needs a large volunteer base, Maynooth does have some advantages here. The youth and community work course in the college is one of the best recognised in the country and students from there are always looking for placement opportunities. The downside of this is to take students on a project needs to have full time qualified workers.

    Another problem (and the major one facing most youth projects and cafes) is funding. The government are releasing further funding specifically for youth cafes but from what I can tell the majority of this has already been designated to projects. The idea of a self sustaining cafe is a good one but is very hard to set up and manage. It is hard to get volunteers at the best of times and even harder when they will have responsibility for money. We had looked at going down that route ( we would be in a busy part of Dublin and so could have set up a cafe within the space to make money) but to be honest it was too much hassle. We looked into it and you would have to be very careful as well, youth cafe's and project usually have charitable status but once you begin to make money this can cause problems.

    Area's that receive funding for youth cafe's normally have long existing successful youth projects, many of which started as voluntary but moved into having paid staff. These tend to be in areas that are classed as disadvantaged and would rank highly on the deprivation score index (takes into account number of things, numbers of young people not completing secondary education, number going to further education, down to something as simple as number of cars per household). I'd don't know the figures for Kildare but from my experience of working in different areas in Dublin I wouldn't say Maynooth scores highly in this.

    My advice, for what is worth, would be to try establish a smaller youth drop in style project, maybe open 2 evenings a week (depending on volunteers). Further down the line I would say the best way to establish a cafe would be to look at a regional one for the Maynooth, Celbridge and Leixlip area. There are already youth projects up and running in Celbridge and Leixlip and I'd say the numbers would be there to support it. This would be a very long term goal though.

    Hope all of that is of some use to people.


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