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Neighbours dog pooping in my garden

  • 25-01-2014 9:48am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭


    Ok - as the title suggests - I have a problem with a neighbours dog pooping all over my front garden.
    About 6 months ago - my mother who was out with us, saw the dog take a s*** in the garden - my husband said it to the neighbour, who denied it first, but then said he would watch for it.
    All was well for a while, but over the past 2 months again - it has started up again. At the moment, there are 6 lumps of the stuff all over the garden - its, excuse the pun, foul and even putting my kids in the car means I have to hold their hands to ensure they dont run onto the lawn!
    Anyway - we suspected it was the same dog - but had no evidence so couldnt say it. However, this morning- I caught the dog on my phone (took photos), taking a leisurely poop in my garden, while his owner (the wife) called him gently - ie she saw him do this...!
    What is the best approach to take here? They wouldnt be the easiest people to get along with, and I believe others may have had this issue too....but given their difficulty ( this dog is like a child to them - they cut their honeymoon short to come home to it)....I think we need to have our rights straight...
    Can anyone advise? Can they be prosecuted for 'allowing' the dog to poop in my garden? Conscious I still have to live beside them as well...so dont want relations to be too bad!

    Thanks!
    Maura


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,272 ✭✭✭✭Paulw


    mauraf wrote: »
    Can they be prosecuted for 'allowing' the dog to poop in my garden?

    You could report the issue to the local dog warden (contact your local council), and if you hand over the photos, this can lead to a fine and/or prosecution.

    http://www.environ.ie/en/LocalGovernment/DogControl/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭mauraf


    Thanks Paulw - at least that gives us some ammunition! I will try the softly softly approach first - but if they deny - will contact the local dog warden with my evidence. They may pay attention if it hits them where it hurts!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭CarrickMcJoe


    Or the next time it happens, make sure your neighbour sees you, then say, I hope you are going to clean that up. Not very neighbourly in the first place.


    If none of the suggestions are successful, you could collect all the crap up, wrap it in newspaper, light newspaper and put it on their doorstep. Ring doorbell AND RUN ! :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    Gather it up at nightime and throw it back over to them if they don't have the decency to control their dog.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Or just return the...............



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    Gather it up at nightime and throw it back over to them if they don't have the decency to control their dog.

    Exactly what i would do and i would make sure she seen me doing it too:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭stoneill


    Ask then to come in an pick it up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭johndoe99


    had similar situation, neighbours dog a few doors up from us, would everyday come down to our front garden and do his business, always passing by all the other gardens and just target us (i believe it was because we have dogs and he could get there scent). I got a tip online, pour raw bleach in a trail around my house. Apparently it messes with there scent, i did this everyday for a week, he hasn't done his business since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 Mayo jonny


    i have the problem of, i think its a neighbours dog, sh*ting in my driveway everyday. don't want to say anything because i haven't seen him for sure and they're not the kind of people i want to be giving out to. just wondering, is jeyes fluid harmful to car or tires on car? we dont have any space outside our driveway but dont want to risk getting this stuff on tires and splashed up onto bodywork.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 kilp10


    Problem there now is, the dog has gotten used to using your garden as his pooping area, not the dog's fault I'm afraid.

    I'm assuming you have no way of stopping the dog from entering your property?

    Aside from talking to them again, something I did once was tie a poop bag on to the dog's collar as he kept coming into my garden so the owners would hopefully get the message when the dog returned home. Only thing was I thought it was a dog from a few streets down but it was actually a new dog to the neighbours across the way and they saw me doing it lol. But I then explained what was going on, and no further problem.

    I would talk to them again and make them come in and look at your garden at it's worst and pick it up. Shaming owner's into it is usually the best way (and I'm a dog owner myself!). She's probably ignoring it as she can't stand picking it up herself!

    All else failing, the dog is wandering and making a nuisance of itself, they should have to contain it. Contact the local warden and he can have a word with them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 Mayo jonny


    i can never never catch the dog doing it so can't confront the neighbours without proof. it is the only dog to wanders around the area. and if i did say anthing to these people, they would just laugh and say f off. don't want hassle with dog warden so thinking of putting a strong dose of jeyes fluid and maybe cayenne pepper all around the driveway. was wondering if jeyes fluid would damage the tires on the car and if it sprayed up onto the car, would it damage the paint work?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    You might want to try the motors forum, many of the people here are barristers and therefore can't afford luxuries like cars, houses or jayes fluid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭doubter


    jayses. that stuff is lethal to animals.Stay well away from it unless you want to be accused of poisoning.:mad:

    Fence your yard if you don't have proof- an electric fence does not ahve to be permanent and one ir 2 minor shocks will make the offending animal think twice again before approaching your lane, even after taking it down.Talk to the dogwarden as well-there's a steep fine for fouling.


  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,781 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    Mayo jonny wrote: »
    i can never never catch the dog doing it so can't confront the neighbours without proof. it is the only dog to wanders around the area. and if i did say anthing to these people, they would just laugh and say f off. don't want hassle with dog warden so thinking of putting a strong dose of jeyes fluid and maybe cayenne pepper all around the driveway. was wondering if jeyes fluid would damage the tires on the car and if it sprayed up onto the car, would it damage the paint work?
    A dog is going into your drive to relieve itself, unbeknownst to its owner (since you haven't/won't tell them) and your solution is to kill the dog?

    Not only that but you're only concern is that you might damage your car in the process of poisoning the dog.

    We cannot help you and if I understand the position in relation to that sort of behaviour correctly, there aren't many who can.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    Erect a fence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 Mayo jonny


    i don't want to kill the dog, just make him f off. and if trespasses on the property, then its not my fault if he gets sick. the owners know well, they only let him out to go to the toilet.

    and yes, of course my concern is my car and property, why should i be worried about someone else's property?
    some really daft comments here


  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,781 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    You know that Jeyes fluid is a deadly poison and you want to use it as a solution to a minor issue with dirt on your driveway.

    Are you actually referring to the dog as "someone else's property"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭doubter


    I better leave this thread well alone before i tear someone another ****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 Mayo jonny


    yes, the dog is some else's property.

    thousands of reviews from people who use jeyes fluid and i know people who have used it for years and never any problems


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    I could be wrong here but I don't think it was ever the OPs intention to hurt the animal - I not he also suggested K-pepper which I assume is not harmful. I suspect the OP was naive like myself and had no idea jayes fluid was harmful (well no more harmful than bleach as suggested above).

    While I don't condone poising a dog and can't work out why the OP wont just call the dog warden, dogs should not be wandering the street. If there was one on my property and I felt in anyway threatened (I'm not suggesting the OP does) I'd have no problem taking decisive action in relation to the animal.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭doubter


    Mayo jonny wrote: »
    yes, the dog is some else's property.

    thousands of reviews from people who use jeyes fluid and i know people who have used it for years and never any problems

    and here I am surprised that there is so much cruelty in Ireland.

    Could it be that some of it is due to ignorance? or maybe more concern for a few stones and some metal on wheels than to a life?
    The mind boggles.

    http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/chemical-alert-after-pet-dog-poisoned-1-5936349


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 Mayo jonny


    quote from the article:

    Coun Martin said: “This stuff, if just put down neat, can be deadly. It has to be used properly. so i guess we can use it after all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭doubter


    Mayo jonny wrote: »
    quote from the article:

    Coun Martin said: “This stuff, if just put down neat, can be deadly. It has to be used properly. so i guess we can use it after all

    and you know how to use it properly yes? cause if it's completely dry it won't repel. and if it's not, it will kill. build a fence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 Mayo jonny


    it its not dry and the dog trespasses, well... il follow the instructions on the bottle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 kilp10


    Go to a pet store, there are products you can spray around the premises that are used to deter animals. Jeyes fluid will not only stink you out of it but not sure of its safety with animals. Again, this is not the dog's fault, it's an owner problem.

    There is also a product you can get that emits a frequency that keeps them away. It's usually used to deter barking but it might work.

    If neighbours are open, then talking direct to them without involving the warden (last resort method) is the best approach. If they're not, which by the sounds of it they're not, then contact warden. Or try getting a poop bags, pick it up, put it bagged on their doorstep or into their bin and leave the remainder of the poop bags on their step. Might get the message across....


  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,781 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    Just be aware that poisoning animals is a criminal offence except in specified circumstances (that don't apply here).

    Personally, your lack of regard for the animal's health is alarming. I don't see why you can't just use non-poisonous deterrents or build a fence. You might not like the owner or whatever but there's no need to punish the dog.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭doubter


    kilp10 wrote: »
    Go to a pet store, there are products you can spray around the premises that are used to deter animals. Jeyes fluid will not only stink you out of it but not sure of its safety with animals. Again, this is not the dog's fault, it's an owner problem.

    There is also a product you can get that emits a frequency that keeps them away. It's usually used to deter barking but it might work.

    If neighbours are open, then talking direct to them without involving the warden (last resort method) is the best approach. If they're not, which by the sounds of it they're not, then contact warden. Or try getting a poop bags, pick it up, put it bagged on their doorstep or into their bin and leave the remainder of the poop bags on their step. Might get the message across....

    The poop bag idea is appealing if they are not open to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭cerastes


    doubter wrote: »
    jayses. that stuff is lethal to animals.Stay well away from it unless you want to be accused of poisoning.:mad:

    Fence your yard if you don't have proof- an electric fence does not ahve to be permanent and one ir 2 minor shocks will make the offending animal think twice again before approaching your lane, even after taking it down.Talk to the dogwarden as well-there's a steep fine for fouling.

    Why should the OP fence their yard, which may not even be practical?
    The cost of gates can cost cost a fair whack. They may even alraeady have gates, but dogs can jump low walls and gates easily and some can scale very high walls.
    Its the neighbour that is allowing their pet dog to wander uncontrolled and creating a health hazard.
    Until further down in the thread, I didnt know or realise Jeyes could kill an animal, Ive washed my drive many a time with it, I wont park the car on there till its dry though, if someones dog comes in uncontrolled and drinks the stuff, I havent put it down to deflect anyones dog, am I poisoning their dog if they have it off a leash?
    Zambia wrote: »
    Erect a fence

    cost and might not be effective, how high? dog might be able to jump over it, might be out of keeping with the neighbourhood, OP might not want to or have the money to fence off their garden or appear to be fenced off as it makes it look like they have a problem instead of them having a problem with a neighbours dog, ****ting in their garden.
    doubter wrote: »
    and here I am surprised that there is so much cruelty in Ireland.

    Could it be that some of it is due to ignorance? or maybe more concern for a few stones and some metal on wheels than to a life?
    The mind boggles.

    http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/chemical-alert-after-pet-dog-poisoned-1-5936349

    Its definitely inconsiderate and irresponsible if you allow your dog off to do their business and couldnt care less where it happens, OP sayd they have children.

    OP go down and have a polite but firm word with them, Id tell them you cant let it go on as you have children and its a health risk, I have a dog and Id never allow it wander off to take a dump, I have to clean up after her in the backgarden, as my child is still small I dont allow them out there alone anyway, but until an area is fenced off in there, I would not allow them or any child play there until thats done as there are serious health hazards from dogs faeces. There are laws about controlling dogs, if the OP's problem was about cats, Id say they have to try deter it somehow as cats cannot be controlled in the same way dogs can by their owners as cat owners have no responsibility under the law.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    I don't know the exact layout of the situation so it could be in a public place especially if kids have been around.

    If it's not public though (not from a legal standpoint) I don't think there is any issue morally with leaving any chemicals lying around on private land. It doesn't really matter what the chemical is, I've not given anyone permission to be on my private property so I've nothing to worry about and the chemicals can't be a danger if I'm the only person with permission to be on the property. We also need stronger laws on people cleaning up after their animals, scooping up the poop isn't cleaning, you need to disinfect the area, the same should go for dog pee too.

    On private property all animals should be classed as vermin and the property owner should be allowed to exterminate them.

    Some one said to contact the dog warden and from experience that wont work. I sent the Kildare dog warden video evidence of a neighbour standing there while a dog defecated in my garden and was told "F*** off, if I came out everytime a dog went to the toilet where it shouldn't I'd be working 24-7" and then went on to say if nobody has been bitten he is not interested.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭doubter


    cerastes wrote: »
    Why should the OP fence their yard, which may not even be practical?
    The cost of gates can cost cost a fair whack. They may even alraeady have gates, but dogs can jump low walls and gates easily and some can scale very high walls.
    Its the neighbour that is allowing their pet dog to wander uncontrolled and creating a health hazard.
    Until further down in the thread, I didnt know or realise Jeyes could kill an animal, Ive washed my drive many a time with it, I wont park the car on there till its dry though, if someones dog comes in uncontrolled and drinks the stuff, I havent put it down to deflect anyones dog, am I poisoning their dog if they have it off a leash?



    cost and might not be effective, how high? dog might be able to jump over it, might be out of keeping with the neighbourhood, OP might not want to or have the money to fence off their garden or appear to be fenced off as it makes it look like they have a problem instead of them having a problem with a neighbours dog, ****ting in their garden.



    Its definitely inconsiderate and irresponsible if you allow your dog off to do their business and couldnt care less where it happens, OP sayd they have children.

    OP go down and have a polite but firm word with them, Id tell them you cant let it go on as you have children and its a health risk, I have a dog and Id never allow it wander off to take a dump, I have to clean up after her in the backgarden, as my child is still small I dont allow them out there alone anyway, but until an area is fenced off in there, I would not allow them or any child play there until thats done as there are serious health hazards from dogs faeces. There are laws about controlling dogs, if the OP's problem was about cats, Id say they have to try deter it somehow as cats cannot be controlled in the same way dogs can by their owners as cat owners have no responsibility under the law.

    There is no disagreement in that. The simple fact that OP is willing to poison an animal is what makes mine (and others) hair rise.I have 8 dogs and they never wander, nor are they allowed out without supervision and I clean up in the yard every day.But reverting to poisoning? Thats downright evil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭doubter


    and..with all due respect. if I was that neighbor, and I'd find out my dog got poisoned by someone on purpose..there would be hell to pay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    Mayo jonny wrote: »
    i don't want to kill the dog, just make him f off. and if trespasses on the property, then its not my fault if he gets sick. the owners know well, they only let him out to go to the toilet.

    and yes, of course my concern is my car and property, why should i be worried about someone else's property?
    some really daft comments here

    Your only concern should be your kids. Dog poo is not going to hurt your car or your garden, but if you were amazingly unlucky it could blind your children: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxocariasis


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    doubter wrote: »
    There is no disagreement in that. The simple fact that OP is willing to poison an animal is what makes mine (and others) hair rise.I have 8 dogs and they never wander, nor are they allowed out without supervision and I clean up in the yard every day.But reverting to poisoning? Thats downright evil.

    He isn't bringing the poison to the dogs though, they are going where they should to get to it. I think the OP has said he wouldn't use poison though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Your only concern should be your kids. Dog poo is not going to hurt your car or your garden, but if you were amazingly unlucky it could blind your children: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxocariasis

    It will make property dirty though, and it can make me dirty. It doesn't matter if it won't kill me I don't want it near me be that on my property or shoes. I like to keep my garden clean too, animals shouldn't be allowed dirty it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭doubter


    GarIT wrote: »
    It will make property dirty though, and it can make me dirty. It doesn't matter if it won't kill me I don't want it near me be that on my property or shoes. I like to keep my garden clean too, animals shouldn't be allowed dirty it.

    now I'm laughing. Do you know that rat dropping are more toxic than dog poo? Only thing is you might not see them as they are tiny.If you want to keep animals out of your garden, than bloody put up a fence or operate within the law. It's a criminal offence to poison a dog.It's a civil offence to let them wander. Ring the dogwarden to fine them. It's irresponsible of them to let him/her wander. he/she could get hurt. They are at fault. THEY need to get fined. with money. not a dead dog that rots from the inside with symptoms close to ebola in humans.>:mad::mad::mad:<


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭cerastes


    doubter wrote: »
    There is no disagreement in that. The simple fact that OP is willing to poison an animal is what makes mine (and others) hair rise.I have 8 dogs and they never wander, nor are they allowed out without supervision and I clean up in the yard every day.But reverting to poisoning? Thats downright evil.

    The OP never said they were going to try poison the dog, it read to me they wanted to deter it. It was only after when posters suggested this might poison the dog that then others suggested the OP wants to poison the dog.

    The OP didnt say they were trying to poison the dog at all, they even clarified the opposite.

    for a start OP, talk to the person, tell them you know its their dog, you've seen it, if you have photos all the better, tell them you dont want to clean it up, its their dog, dont threaten the dogwarden or invoke any laws yet.

    Get something from a petshop, to keep dogs away (ive found these things unsuccessful, but maybe I havent tried enough of them).

    If the dog continues to do its dumping in your garden, try figure when the person is letting their dog out and get up early/late to catch them, although they may alternate times to try get away with it, get some pictures.
    If it occurs again and you have pictures, tell them you'll have to go to the dog warden and the council.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    doubter wrote: »
    now I'm laughing. Do you know that rat dropping are more toxic than dog poo? Only thing is you might not see them as they are tiny.If you want to keep animals out of your garden, than bloody put up a fence or operate within the law. It's a criminal offence to poison a dog.It's a civil offence to let them wander. Ring the dogwarden to fine them. It's irresponsible of them to let him/her wander. he/she could get hurt. They are at fault. THEY need to get fined. with money. not a dead dog that rots from the inside with symptoms close to ebola in humans.>:mad::mad::mad:<

    I can deal with rats. One garden is dealt with as it has a 6ft wall and 3 ft high mesh on top for cats. The other garden has to have an open entrance as the entrances is shared with more than one house.

    Just because something is worse than dog poo that doesn't make dog poo ok. The dog warden really couldn't care less (Kildare doesn't have a dog warden, we have the guy that operates the pound who has the title of dog warden but never actually leaves the pound), CCTV means nothing to them.

    I didn't say I have poisoned anything, I said we should be legally allowed if it is on private property.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    doubter wrote: »
    and..with all due respect. if I was that neighbor, and I'd find out my dog got poisoned by someone on purpose..there would be hell to pay.

    If anyone killed a pet of mine I wouldn't rest until they were jailed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    cerastes wrote: »
    If the dog continues to do its dumping in your garden, try figure when the person is letting their dog out and get up early/late to catch them, although they may alternate times to try get away with it, get some pictures.
    If it occurs again and you have pictures, tell them you'll have to go to the dog warden and the council.

    What happens when you have done all this and the dog warden says "It's not his[my] job to deal with it."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭doubter


    GarIT wrote: »
    I can deal with rats. One garden is dealt with as it has a 6ft wall and 3 ft high mesh on top for cats. The other garden has to have an open entrance as the entrances is shared with more than one house.

    Just because something is worse than dog poo that doesn't make dog poo ok. The dog warden really couldn't care less (Kildare doesn't have a dog warden, we have the guy that operates the pound who has the title of dog warden but never actually leaves the pound), CCTV means nothing to them.

    I didn't say I have poisoned anything, I said we should be legally allowed if it is on private property.

    Actually, Kildare has a dog warden..and one of the highest killrates in irish pounds.See difference between you and OP is that you've done everything to protect your property from what you don't want on there without resorting to cruelty.Thats not too much to ask non? and laying poison? well, keep in mind that there are many protected species like birds of prey who can be indirect victims of poisoning.Hence it's illegal other than for specialists.And thats right.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭cerastes


    If anyone killed a pet of mine I wouldn't rest until they were jailed.

    People are going way over the top here, the OP never said they wanted to or intended to poison or kill the dog.
    Anyway, how likely do you think what you have said is possible, they are turning away people who have multiple run ins with the organisation charged with maintaining order.

    This country doesnt even have a good record with regards animal welfare, how would a person even prove if someone did this intentionally?

    If I wash my drive down, or spray weedkiller, I make sure my dog is kept in till its had its affect or is washed away, but what if I do that to clean my drive and someones dog comes along and licks it up and subsequently dies of poisoning, will I go to prison because they left their animal uncontrolled and was complicit in its death.
    The person responsible for the animal the OP is having the problem with doesnt even sound like a responsible pet owner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    doubter wrote: »
    Actually, Kildare has a dog warden..and one of the highest killrates in irish pounds.See difference between you and OP is that you've done everything to protect your property from what you don't want on there without resorting to cruelty.Thats not too much to ask non? and laying poison? well, keep in mind that there are many protected species like birds of prey who can be indirect victims of poisoning.Hence it's illegal other than for specialists.And thats right.

    I've talked to the dog warden in Kildare and he himself has told me their is no dog warden in Kildare, it's just a job title he has because they don't have anyone else to do it.

    I want to clarify too, I don't want to resort to cruelty and I haven't but I value my property more than I value anyone else's pets and I'm not far from it. I should also note I have a phobia of animals and at times feel terrorised by neighbours dogs, but there is no legal way of dealing with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭doubter


    GarIT wrote: »
    I've talked to the dog warden in Kildare and he himself has told me their is no dog warden in Kildare, it's just a job title he has because they don't have anyone else to do it.

    I want to clarify too, I don't want to resort to cruelty and I haven't but I value my property more than I value anyone else's pets and I'm not far from it. I should also note I have a phobia of animals and at times feel terrorised by neighbours dogs, but there is no legal way of dealing with it.

    Well, i will always differ with that. I will always value a life over anything of monetary value. I'm not god, and it's not in my remit to decide over life and death.that as an aside.

    Kildare
    ISPCA Dog Shelter, Portersize, Ballitore, Co. Kildare
    059 8623388

    The pound is run by the ispca, and they are generally useless.The gardai would be the next step.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭cerastes


    GarIT wrote: »
    What happens when you have done all this and the dog warden says "It's not his[my] job to deal with it."

    Get an electric fence, I wouldnt use it to control my dog, but Id do it to prevent or deter access by irresponsible owners dogs, If Im correct in my understanding you can get one that can be buried or placed and secured at ground level? not 100% sure.
    doubter wrote: »
    Actually, Kildare has a dog warden..and one of the highest killrates in irish pounds.See difference between you and OP is that you've done everything to protect your property from what you don't want on there without resorting to cruelty.Thats not too much to ask non? and laying poison? well, keep in mind that there are many protected species like birds of prey who can be indirect victims of poisoning.Hence it's illegal other than for specialists.And thats right.

    First off you keep spouting this back, have you read the thread?, the OP never said they wanted to poison the animal, they seemd to think it would deter it.
    Besides, Im sure it wouldnt be allowed nor should the OP have to build walls over a certain height in their front garden and this is where it seems they have the problem? can you clarify this OP?

    If you can point out to where the OP said, "I'm going to poison that damned dog"? As for indirect victims of poisoning, if Jeyes fluid is allowed on the market, its unlikely that its going to kill existing or reintroduced birdlife, I dont expect its like people putting out poison to bait and kill them, they arent putting poison out. And for the last time they clarified they didnt want to do that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭doubter


    :rolleyes: ooch..i've read it a few times, and while he doesn't say he intends to poison the dog, he certainly doesn't care about the risk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    doubter wrote: »
    Well, i will always differ with that. I will always value a life over anything of monetary value. I'm not god, and it's not in my remit to decide over life and death.that as an aside.

    Kildare
    ISPCA Dog Shelter, Portersize, Ballitore, Co. Kildare
    059 8623388

    The pound is run by the ispca, and they are generally useless.The gardai would be the next step.

    I didn't know the pound was run by the ISPCA, the gardai, say it's the dog wardens job as do the council. The council said they will "look into the issues with the dog warden" and then never have a clue what you are talking about when you asked them for a followup. Local councillors are the same "will look into it" and then never do. The reality is that nobody cares everyone passes responsibility onto somebody else and dog owners will be free to do what they like for a long time.

    It is a sickening feeling when you confront a neighbour and show them that you have them on video sending a dog to go to the toilet in my garden and threaten to contact the dog warden and then they don't care and just say go ahead and then the dog warden says he is not interested.

    What we need is for the dog warden to be a member of the gardai and we need one in every station that patrols the area and collects dogs that have been let wander out. The are six of them in my area (four from one house) that just leave the side gate open all the time and the dogs are free to wander as they please.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭cerastes


    GarIT wrote: »
    I didn't know the pound was run by the ISPCA, the gardai, say it's the dog wardens job as do the council. The council said they will "look into the issues with the dog warden" and then never have a clue what you are talking about when you asked them for a followup. Local councillors are the same "will look into it" and then never do. The reality is that nobody cares everyone passes responsibility onto somebody else and dog owners will be free to do what they like for a long time.

    It is a sickening feeling when you confront a neighbour and show them that you have them on video sending a dog to go to the toilet in my garden and threaten to contact the dog warden and then they don't care and just say go ahead and then the dog warden says he is not interested.

    What we need is for the dog warden to be a member of the gardai and we need one in every station that patrols the area and collects dogs that have been let wander out. The are six of them in my area (four from one house) that just leave the side gate open all the time and the dogs are free to wander as they please.

    What breeds are these, is it possible to email or post a registered letter to the dog warden then ring them and tell them you have done both of the above, if they still fail to respond can you go over their head to a Councillor, as the dog warden, despite however busy they may be still must have some responsibility in this?, in the event the dogs are a potential danger contact the Gardai, while I suspect all or most of this is due to resources and funding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 Mayo jonny


    some people love a good rant about irrelevant stuff. i don't want to poison or kill the dog, i want to deter it from fouling my driveway.

    just to clarify for the slow people:

    A; the neighours are inapproachable.
    B; its a rented property so i wouldn't be allowed, or have the funds to build a wall or fence.
    C; I can put jeyes fluid on my drive way, which is a disinfectant, which i am entitled to,
    D; if an animal trespasses and gets ill, then they cannot sue me for using chemicals on private property.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭billy few mates


    You have three courses of action open to you (excluding killing the dog, it's not his fault)..
    1. Call the dog warden
    2. Speak to the owner, tell them to make it stop
    3. Pick up the mess and leave it on your neighbours doorstep (or post it through the letterbox if you prefer)

    If it were me, I'd do all three.....


  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,781 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    Mayo jonny wrote: »
    some people love a good rant about irrelevant stuff. i don't want to poison or kill the dog, i want to deter it from fouling my driveway.

    just to clarify for the slow people:

    A; the neighours are inapproachable.
    B; its a rented property so i wouldn't be allowed, or have the funds to build a wall or fence.
    C; I can put jeyes fluid on my drive way, which is a disinfectant, which i am entitled to,
    D; if an animal trespasses and gets ill, then they cannot sue me for using chemicals on private property.

    I think you ought to consider your last point again.


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