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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭relaxed


    I suppose the prize money is too small here to attract American horses to Ireland but the 3 $ million prize money was very worthwhile for Aiden O’Brien.

    Will we see the likes of Bord na gCon flying out greyhounds to Miami too?

    Image Donal Morrissey

    Are horses and greyhounds counted as passengers though?

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭Brennans Row

    relaxed wrote: »
    Are horses and greyhounds counted as passengers though?
    Well for one thing, they certainly travelled first class! :P

    Speaking of four legged creatures, Bóthar has been airlifting dairy cows, goats and pigs as humanitarian aid from Shannon Airport since 1991.

    I wonder was this the basis that lead to a feasibility study, to explore the possibility of positioning Shannon Airport as an international hub for the storage and distribution of EU and UN emergency humanitarian supplies.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭Brennans Row

    The UK Airport Provisional Statistics for January reveal an overall increase in passengers of 2.4% against the same month from last year.

    The positive growth figures at Stansted, Birmingham and Liverpool’s John Lennon airport were offset by falls at Heathrow, Gatwick, Manchester and Edinburgh.

    I wonder could an earlier Aer Lingus flight address the falling trend at Heathrow?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,694 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9

    LHR numbers dropped beacuse EI cut capacity from an A320 to A319. 30 seats per flgiht.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,467 ✭✭✭highlydebased

    1 less rotation a week aswell, flying to Lanzarote saturday afternoon instead of LHR.

    Interesting STN numbers went up when they cut a couple of flights a week to there!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭Brennans Row

    [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]When did they switch that type of aircraft on the SNN-LHR route last year, so that we could start to compare like with like. [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]30 fewer seats per flight would represent a -17% drop in capacity alone.[/FONT]

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,467 ✭✭✭highlydebased

    Oct 2013 is when they started flying A319 from SNN.

  • Registered Users Posts: 10,694 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9

    Oct 2013 is when they started flying A319 from SNN.

    The 27 October however I think it didn't was mix of both types for the first week. The A320 was operating over Christmas and New Year so January figures are not fully accruate with A319 capacity as the 320 was flying for around 2 weeks in Jan.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭Brennans Row

    Connect Ireland to launch campaign at Shannon Airport (Business & Leadership)

    Clare hurling manager Davy Fitzgerald has teamed up with legendary rugby international Keith Wood in a new Connect Ireland campaign, which is launching at Shannon Airport.

    They are the latest Connect Ireland ambassadors to spur parishes, clubs and communities to link up with family, friends and contacts abroad to sell Ireland, boost job creation and create a future in Ireland for our brightest and best.

    A similar branding and information campaign at Dublin Airport has already helped create 300 direct jobs across Ireland.

    Limerick Leader marks 125 years in print with exhibition at Shannon Airport (LL)

    The exhibition features some of the most evocative images of life in Limerick during the 1970s, in a collaboration between the Limerick Museum and Archives (LM&A), the Limerick Leader and Limerick School of Art and Design (LSAD).

    Over 180 images will go on display, including 69 created by third year students of the Limerick School of Art and Design in response to the Limerick Leader archive photographs.

    The exhibition will run in Shannon Airport from Tuesday next, March 11 until September, when it will move into Limerick city.

    The airport is getting very event orientated, do they have aspirations for convention centre?

  • Registered Users Posts: 550 ✭✭✭lockman

    Shannon Airport launches ‘Park4Less’, Ireland’s cheapest online airport car parking

    10 March 2014

    Shannon Airport passengers are about to enjoy the country’s cheapest online airport car parking as the airport launches a new Park4Less service to go with the commencement of nine new destinations this summer.

    For more, see the airport's press releases section:

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  • Registered Users Posts: 779 ✭✭✭ctlsleh

    1 less rotation a week aswell, flying to Lanzarote saturday afternoon instead of LHR.

    Interesting STN numbers went up when they cut a couple of flights a week to there!

    STN numbers went up because the lhr morning flights are so late now that you cant get to centre london before 11AM.........ridiculous....! Hate flying ryanair to stn.....

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭Brennans Row

    Plane makes emergency landing at Shannon Airport following fire in cargo bay (live95fm)

    Friday 14 March 2014

    A cargo plane has made an emergency landing at Shannon Airport this morning.

    Emergency services were alerted after a fire broke out in the cargo bay at around quarter to 6.

    The Cargolux-operated Boeing 747-400, which was travelling from Puerto Rico to Maastricht in Holland, was flying over Wales when the blaze ignited.

    The pilot alerted authorities and the plane was then diverted to Shannon.

    Units from Shannon and Ennis Fire Service were called to the scene as a precautionary measure but the aircraft landed safely at the Mid-West Airport at around ten past six.

    Strange, are there no airports open in Wales at quarter to six in the morning?

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭Brennans Row

    Airport board exploring new opportunities (Limerick Post)

    A pilot training school and a museum are among the projects being considered by the Shannon Airport Authority as it steps up its commercial brief to improve the airport’s earning potential.

    And the changeover to a more customer-friendly environment began last week with the airport authority offering one of the lowest long-term parking rates in the country.

    Shannon chief executive Neil Pakey was briefing members of Limerick city council’s transport committee when he said that the airport is looking at a broad spectrum of initiatives including pilot training and having the airport look at adopting an educational role.

    The board is also planning to establish a ‘Friends of Shannon Airport’ support organization, based on the success of a similar group in Liverpool.

    “Their enthusiasm and support for the airport was enormous. They organised school groups to see how the airport worked; they helped out with large groups of wheelchair users and helped publicise the airport. They were absolutely fantastic and they are coming over to brief the Shannon airport board before we invite people to join our own group”, he said.
    Friends of Shannon Airport

    This should be of interest to those of us who would like to get actively involved.


    Don’t we have an aviation museum in Foynes already, i.e. Flying Boat Museum?

    The Atlantic AirVenture has also a small aviation museum.

    Pilot Training School

    They seem to be serious about this.

    I wonder are they filling the gap after the collapse of the Waterford Pilot Training College?

    Speaking of schools, the airport group has already been involved in other areas of training i.e. Shannon College of Hotel Management.

    This Shannon College is one of Europe’s leading hotel management colleges providing excellence in professional education since 1951.

    Which probably explains, why it enjoys a 100 % graduate employment rate.

    I presume this was one of the innovations from the Brendan O’Regan era?

    It has 400 students enroled (200 are international students).


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,615 ✭✭✭golfball37

    Shannon Airport have been trying to pawn off the Hotel College to NUIG for years now.

    Is the new CX saying they are keeping it?

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭Brennans Row

    golfball37 wrote: »
    Shannon Airport have been trying to pawn off the Hotel College to NUIG for years now.

    Is the new CX saying they are keeping it?
    There must be some form of affiliation to NUIG.
    Shannon College of Hotel Management is a Recognised College of the National University of Ireland.

    Both of the degree courses offered by Shannon College are Level 8 Honours Degrees awarded by the National University of Ireland.
    The latest news article states that it is a wholly owned enterprise of the Shannon Airport Authority.

    I have not read anything yet about them off loading it.

    The fact that it is serves our tourist needs could mean that it will remain in the Shannon Heritage portfolio.
    Shannon Group Plc is being formed as the new umbrella for a group of four commercially driven businesses who are focused on delivering economic benefits for the Shannon/Limerick area, the West of Ireland and the wider national economy.

    The four businesses are
    • Shannon International Airport
    • Shannon Heritage
    • International Aviation Services Centre (IASC)
    • Shannon Development.

  • Registered Users Posts: 550 ✭✭✭lockman

    Friends of Shannon Airport

    This should be of interest to those of us who would like to get actively involved.

    Sounds like a very good idea. Thanks for posting.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭Brennans Row

    I had a look at the 'Friends of Liverpool Airport' Website as mentioned in the Limerick Post article.

    It's not a strong website but their quarterly magazine is a good read.

    Aims and Objectives of 'Friends of Liverpool Airport'
    • To promote the use of, and need for, Liverpool Airport.
    • To encourage the preservation, development and improvement of the Airport and its facilities.
    • To educate public opinion and give advice and information about the Airport, the airlines and services offered.
    • To promote civic pride in our local Airport.
    Curious to see as to what could unfold here.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭Brennans Row

    Shannon Airport air traffic up +10.9% for February (IAA)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭Brennans Row

    Boston and Limerick to Twin their Universities (UL)

    A Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) is to be signed on St. Patrick’s Day, Monday 17th March, to formally launch collaborative programmes between University of Massachusetts Boston and the University of Limerick.

    The largest number of UL’s international students come from the United States of America and there are currently 290 US students studying at UL. This number is set to rise as the University increases it’s internationalisation as part of the President’s Strategic Plan “Pioneering & Connected”.
    This should have a positive effect on the SNN-BOS route.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭Brennans Row

    I wonder how much business travel is served by the SNN-BOS route?

    Looking from the point of view of the Boston Scientific Headquarters for example, Shannon Airport lies very conveniently between their three plants here.
    • Galway (80 Km) 2,600 employees
    • Cork (125 Km) 1,100 employees
    • Clonmel (105 Km) 700 employees

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Quintessentially Aviation Handling opens new Shannon facility (Blue Sky News)

    Quintessentially Aviation Handling, the newest member to join the Air Elite Network, has celebrated the completion of their new executive passenger & crew terminal facilities at Shannon Airport (EINN).

    The new, state-of-the-art, 1750 square foot terminal includes a luxurious and contemporary, full-service executive passenger lounge designed to cater to Quintessentially’s discerning business & general aviation clientele. The facility also boasts an impressive airside crew rest lounge complete with satellite TV, Netflix, WiFi, complimentary catering, featuring modern Swiss furnishings. As an additional convenience, the terminal is equipped with its own airbridge to assist with passenger care.


    Shannon Airport is a popular gateway airport for European, Russian and Middle Eastern business aviation flights destined for the United States. The 24/7/365 operations, clear weather records, 10,495 foot (3,200 meter) runway, and the fact that it hosts the only pre-customs clearance facility outside of the Americas makes the airport an attractive technical stop for transatlantic flights to the USA.
    There were 4,500 business jet movements in 2011.

    Has anybody seen statistics for 2012, 2013?

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭Brennans Row

    Permission sought for demolition of Free Zone buildings (Clare Champion)

    Shannon Development has applied for planning permission to demolish buildings of over 8,000 square metres in size.

    In the application to Clare County Council, it has sought planning for the demolition of existing light industrial and office buildings of approximately 8,050 square metres and permission to clear the site at Block C, Shannon Free Zone.

    The size of the site is 1.33 hectares and a decision on the application is due by May 1.

    Asked about the plans for the future of the site, Shannon Development said, “The work we are carrying out at Shannon Free Zone are part of our strategy to position this area of the zone for redevelopment, with a view to developing this site in the future.”

    Many of the buildings at the Free Zone are relatively old at this stage and have fallen into some disrepair.


    I wonder if this site (Block C) is being prepared for an air freight facility next door to the Westair hangar?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭Brennans Row

    Permission sought for demolition of Aviation Fuel Storage Tanks (Clare Champion)

    Also this week, Shannon Airport Authority have applied for planning permission for the demolition of five 19.5m diameter x 14.65m high storage tanks. They are not currently in use and, in the past, were used as an aviation fuel storage facility.


    Shannon Jetty dedicated to aviation fuel imports.

    Looking at the aerial image below, it appears that the aviation fuel storage area has been upgraded with concrete containment basins.

    I presume that these five tanks are to be demolished as they would not fulfil environment regulations?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭Brennans Row

    Malaysian Airways flight MH370 mystery brings back rescue memories for Swansea man (South Wales Evening Post)

    Fisherman 87 year-old Gordon Sheffers recalls how they made the most precious catch of their lives just off Lurga Point (Quilty). :cool:

    Read more see link.
    The good people at the Clare Champion should run Gordon Sheffers story too.

    Background: A Transocean Air Lines DC-4 crashed off Lurga Point (Quilty) on 14th August 1949.

    There were 58 people on board, 49 Passengers (mainly Italian emigrants) and 9 crew.

    The plane had departed from Rome en route to Shannon, intending to fly onwards to Gander and then Caracas (Venezuela).

    Due to poor navigation technique and some bad luck, the flight ended up off course and flew out over the Atlantic, not realizing that it had flown past Shannon.

    When the error was eventually realized, the DC-4 turned back towards Shannon but ran out of fuel and came down in the Atlantic a few miles off the Clare coast.

    50 people were rescued and 8 bodies recovered by a Welsh fishing trawler who brought them to Galway.

  • Registered Users Posts: 550 ✭✭✭lockman

    Not aviation related, but it is additional business for the airport. From the news section of the airport's site:

    ARCH to establish new specialist ‘work at height’ training centre at Shannon Airport

    26 March 2014

    ARCH to establish new specialist ‘work at height’ training centre at Shannon Airport

    New lease of life for iconic Boiler House building on approach route to airport

    ARCH, a specialist technical training provider focusing on the wind energy and other ‘work at height’ sectors, is to establish a new training facility at Shannon Airport to deliver safety training for technicians working on tall structures. The new training centre will see ARCH convert the former Boiler House building on the approach road to the airport into a specialist, new facility. The iconic 175sq metres building has been disused for over 20 years and its 16metre high ceiling is ideal for a work-at-height training centre.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭Brennans Row

    lockman wrote: »
    ARCH to establish new specialist ‘work at height’ training centre at Shannon Airport

    New lease of life for iconic Boiler House building on approach route to Airport
    I wonder is this the building that they are referring to?

    If so, it will probably be a bit of an eye-catcher for the passer-by to see them all dangling from the ceiling. ;)

    Good re-use of the building.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭Brennans Row

    1943 - BOAC - (Fatalities: 0 / Occupants: 14) - near Shannon-Rinneanna Airfield
    1943 - BOAC - (Fatalities: 10 / Occupants: 25) - Dingle Penninsula
    1946 - Aer Lingus - (Fatalities: 0 / Occupants: 19) - 1 mile from Shannon Airport
    1946 - Pan Am - (Fatalities: 0 / Occupants: 36) - Shannon Airport
    1946 - TWA - (Fatalities: 9 / Occupants: 23) - 1 mile from Shannon Airport
    1948 - Pan Am - (Fatalities: 30 / Occupants: 31) - 1/2 mile from Shannon Airport
    1949 - Transocean Airlines - (Fatalities: 8 / Occupants: 58) - Lurga Point, Clare Coast
    1954 - KLM - (Fatalities: 28 / Occupants: 56) - 1.6 miles from Shannon Airport
    1956 - Swissair - (Fatalities: 4 / Occupants: 4) - Shannon Airport
    1958 - KLM - (Fatalities: 99 / Occupants: 99) - 112 miles west of Shannon
    1959 - Pan Am - (Fatalities: 0 / Occupants: 8) - Shannon Airport
    1960 - Alitalia - (Fatalities: 34 / Occupants: 52) - 1 mile from Shannon Airport
    1961 - Cunard Eagle - (Fatalities: 0 / Occupants: 6) - Shannon Airport
    1961 - President Airlines - (Fatalities: 83 / Occupants: 83) - 1 mile from Shannon Airport
    1977 - Interconair - (Fatalities: 0 / Occupants: 6) - Shannon Airport
    1999 - Channel Express - (Fatalities: 0 / Occupants: 6) - Shannon Airport
    2011 - Aer Arann - (Fatalities: 0 / Occupants: 25) - Shannon Airport

    Following Gordon Sheffers account above where they rescued most of the passengers from the Transocean Airlines crash, I found this amazing database at Aviation Safety Network. :cool:

    From that database I compiled this list of aircraft accidents (Cat A1) that occurred in Irish airspace with destination / departure for Shannon Airport / Foynes Port.

    Category A1 is classed as an accident where the aircraft is damaged beyond repair.

    It’s hard to believe that so many fatal accidents occurred around Shannon Airport in the early years.

    The findings from the accidents reveal a lot of tragedy.

    I’d say from all the tragic accidents that happened, the KLM crash in 1954 with 28 fatalities must have gnawed the tower control staff at Shannon if this following account was true.

    KLM Flight (Amsterdam-Shannon-New York)

    From a Dutch Aviation website by Paul van Weezepoel

    On September 5, 1954, the Lockheed Super Constellation PH-LKY Triton was on a flight Amsterdam-New York with 46 passengers and a crew of 10 aboard.

    The aircraft made a planned refueling stop at Shannon, Ireland on flight number 633. Take-off from there was at 02:30.

    Some 35-40 seconds after take-off, the Triton crashed on the mud flats in the Shannon River, about 2500m from the end of the runway.

    Nobody at Shannon Airport had an idea the crash had occurred when navigator Tieman "staggered into the terminal building covered with mud", after having crossed water and mud. It was only then that rescue operations started.

    The aircraft was partly submerged, with the cabin filled with fuel fumes, which caused those passengers still in it to become unconscious, and drown in the incoming tide.

    25 passengers and 3 crew members were killed.

    Three weeks later the Limerick and District Branch of the National Union of Journalists condemned "false and malicious reports in foreign newspapers about the crash which cast a slur on Shannon". It's hard to understand what they can have meant by this. It seems obvious that, had airport tower personnel taken the trouble to watch the aircraft for less than a minute after take-off, they could not have missed seeing the crash, probably saving many lives. They must have been a carefree lot: Nor was any notice taken of absence of any radio messages from the Triton.

    An investigative board later gave as PROBABLE CAUSE:

    1) Failure of the captain to correlate and interpret his instrument indications properly during flap retraction, resulting in necessary action not being taken in sufficient time. This failure was partially accounted for by the effect on instrument indications of inadvertent and unexpected gear re-extension.

    2) Loss of aircraft performance due to inadvertent landing gear re-extension.

    3) The captain failed to maintain sufficient climb to give him an opportunity of meeting unexpected occurrences."

    Viruly, who was only a year from being pensioned, was devastated by the accident and very bitter about his subsequent treatment by KLM.

    But one can only conclude from what is known now, that this captain, one of KLM's most experienced flyers, had been sadly remiss in the handling of the aircraft under his command.

    Aided and abetted by the lackadaisical tower personnel, this resulted in the loss of, not only a brand-new aircraft with less than 2500 hours of operation, but also that of 28 human lives.

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭notharrypotter

    There is an interesting book called "Cleared for Disaster" by Michael O' Toole.

    It was published in 2006 by Mercier Press.

    It covers most of the Aircraft crashes in Ireland.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭Brennans Row

    I must have a look at that book the next time I’m in the library.

    The Limerick City Library pdf below shows newspaper cuttings from the 1954 crash.

    There is also film material of the crash to be seen on that Dutch website (then click top right corner image). It’s a Dutch news reel and the KLM crash report begins at 12:30.

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    U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry speaks on his cell phone at Shannon Airport in Ireland, Saturday March 29, 2014, during a refuelling stop.

    Halfway home from Saudi Arabia, Kerry has abruptly changed course and will stay in Europe for talks on the Ukraine crisis.

    Flying from Riyadh to Shannon, for a refuelling stop on Saturday, Kerry decided to turn his plane around and was travelling to Paris for a meeting with Lavrov scheduled for Sunday evening. (Fairchild Citizen)

    There seems to be quiet an amount of U.S. Government aircraft refuelling at Shannon this days. Worrying times?

    Image by Brian Buckley