WEDNESDAY 22nd

king Henry 14

Was just having a look through the card for fairyhouse tomorrow and one that jumped out at me was ZEKARYA 3.45.
I watched his race at Limerick a few weeks ago and he travelled strongly and looked the winner before falling 2 out. The Hogan affect must also be taken into account so I think the money could come for this one. Just had a bet at 11/1 with PP and suddenly he's 8/1. Didn't know 50 quid could have such an effect
Good luck all.

nuckeythompson

colouer france's day tomorrow. given a bad ride on stephens day and i thiunk tomorrow could be his day

3ndahalfof6

nuckeythompson wrote: »

colouer france's day tomorrow. given a bad ride on stephens day and i thiunk tomorrow could be his day

Time/meeting ?

JR23

3ndahalfof6 wrote: »

Time/meeting ?

1.35 fairyhouse

Francie Barrett

I know it's the horse racing forum, but I will be backing Federer in the tennis tomorrow. 10/11 with Paddy Power and money back if Federer wins the first set but loses the match. Federer has been playing very well and I think that Andy's back surgery layoff should mean he doesn't play at 100%.

rossom

Francie Barrett wrote: »

I know it's the horse racing forum, but I will be backing Federer in the tennis tomorrow. 10/11 with Paddy Power and money back if Federer wins the first set but loses the match. Federer has been playing very well and I think that Andy's back surgery layoff should mean he doesn't play at 100%.

That looks a great bet.

UrbanSea

Surely Moss Street wins a woeful race at Fairyhouse tomorrow hard held if he is trying. I've a feeling that Plinth form could be very smart

MyStubbleItches

UrbanSea wrote: »

Surely Moss Street wins a woeful race at Fairyhouse tomorrow hard held if he is trying. I've a feeling that Plinth form could be very smart

In the same race Jody McGarvey has his only ride of the day. It paid to notice that fact in Thurles last Thursday. Might be worth a speculative punt even if the horse doesn't look much. Looks like a good apprentice who has someone picking his rides carefully.

JR23

king Henry 14 wrote: »

Was just having a look through the card for fairyhouse tomorrow and one that jumped out at me was ZEKARYA 3.45.
I watched his race at Limerick a few weeks ago and he travelled strongly and looked the winner before falling 2 out. The Hogan affect must also be taken into account so I think the money could come for this one. Just had a bet at 11/1 with PP and suddenly he's 8/1. Didn't know 50 quid could have such an effect
Good luck all.

Now 6/1.

UrbanSea

MyStubbleItches wrote: »

In the same race Jody McGarvey has his only ride of the day. It paid to notice that fact in Thurles last Thursday. Might be worth a speculative punt even if the horse doesn't look much. Looks like a good apprentice who has someone picking his rides carefully.

In fairness he rode two at Thurles, had one ride at Fairyhouse and Naas at the weekend, one a 66/1 shot

king Henry 14

JR23 wrote: »

Now 6/1.

Just seen that on PP. Not sure if it takes much money to go from 11s to 6s. Might just be the Dennis Hogan effect. Think he'll go close though.

JR23

king Henry 14 wrote: »

Just seen that on PP. Not sure if it takes much money to go from 11s to 6s. Might just be the Dennis Hogan effect. Think he'll go close though.

Sorry for my ignorance but whats the Dennis hogan effect?

NaiveMelodies

Waiting for a price but Miss Mardan in the bumper is max bet material for me if she's anywhere near the 2/1 mark.

Maybe a small interest in Ted Spread in the class 2 in Lingfield at 14s.

Take note thatGrendisar in that same race(2.30) was he horse who's jockey was done for not ensuring best possible position in a hot enough race a few weeks back. Travelled oh so sweetly into that one. Not sure about the step up though so not mad about the prices on offer atm.

hawkhead

king Henry 14 wrote: »

Was just having a look through the card for fairyhouse tomorrow and one that jumped out at me was ZEKARYA 3.45.
I watched his race at Limerick a few weeks ago and he travelled strongly and looked the winner before falling 2 out. The Hogan affect must also be taken into account so I think the money could come for this one. Just had a bet at 11/1 with PP and suddenly he's 8/1. Didn't know 50 quid could have such an effect
Good luck all.

I put him up here that day. Was a bit of a sickner alright

unitedrover

JR23 wrote: »

Sorry for my ignorance but whats the Dennis hogan effect?

Trainer has a reputation of landing a gamble. If there is a few bob for his horses, the bookies tend to panic and overreact and cut the odds by a few points.

Thats my take on it anyway.

BumperD

[quote="only1stevo;88592179"

Take note thatGrendisar in that same race(2.30) was he horse who's jockey was done for not ensuring best possible position in a hot enough race a few weeks back. Travelled oh so sweetly into that one. Not sure about the step up though so not mad about the prices on offer atm.[/quote]

Grendisar just popped up in my tracker, non trier 10 day ban lto.

BumperD

BumperD wrote: »

Grendisar just popped up in my tracker, non trier 10 day ban lto.

Trip looks way too long IMO, I'll wait till he drops back to 12f

UrbanSea

Backed one today, the well handicapped but unreliable Jaunty Journey at Southwell. 9/2

MyStubbleItches

UrbanSea wrote: »

In fairness he rode two at Thurles, had one ride at Fairyhouse and Naas at the weekend, one a 66/1 shot

My mistake, should have checked his stats before posting. Still, his mounts seem to outrun their odds. Just strikes my untrained eye as a decent apprentice.

Francie Barrett

Francie Barrett wrote: »

I know it's the horse racing forum, but I will be backing Federer in the tennis tomorrow. 10/11 with Paddy Power and money back if Federer wins the first set but loses the match. Federer has been playing very well and I think that Andy's back surgery layoff should mean he doesn't play at 100%.

Fed a set and a break up, money back at least.

NaiveMelodies

only1stevo wrote: »

Waiting for a price but Miss Mardan in the bumper is max bet material for me if she's anywhere near the 2/1 mark.

9/4 too big in my opinion so going in big.

NaiveMelodies

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Fed a set and a break up, money back at least.

He's just the best. What a man!

sting60

Low Key,Indus Valley,Eye Of The Tiger and Seven Summits all have two things in common.They are been smashed in the betting and all were once owned by Barney Curley Anne Stokell gamble the other day should have been picked up here.It was backed last year from 25/1 to 6/4 and was withdrawn at the start with owner suspended with horse for a year I think.He has given all his horses to Stokell so watch out over coming weeks.

NaiveMelodies

sting60 wrote: »

Low Key,Indus Valley,Eye Of The Tiger and Seven Summits all have two things in common.They are been smashed in the betting and all were once owned by Barney Curley.

Great spot.
Are you backing any of them sting and if so, in multiples, doubles etc?

the groutch

Boyles are going SP only on all of those, they are scared s***less.

BumperD

sting60 wrote: »

Low Key,Indus Valley,Eye Of The Tiger and Seven Summits all have two things in common.They are been smashed in the betting and all were once owned by Barney Curley.

Hummmm

shamdrog63

Gonna give Don Pooleoni 2.20 Sou another chance today.Wandering Aengus who beat Cheltenian in his bumper win, returns after 600 days today.Disappointing sort.Will be interesting to see how he goes.

sting60

only1stevo wrote: »

Great spot.
Are you backing any of them sting and if so, in multiples, doubles etc?

As a rule I never do doubles etc but spotted this last night and did 5e win yankee at far better odds than currently.My luck is in because I got the Jackpot at Wolves the other day for 16e investment got 1,200 back.

kiers47

BumperD wrote: »

Grendisar just popped up in my tracker, non trier 10 day ban lto.

Ya he popped up in mine to. I dont think the step up in trip will be that much of a problem if he's good enough.

BumperD

Didn't Curley snap 1mln+ with 4 horse L15 couple yrs back, 3 won. There was a similar plunge a yr later, all well beaten so its difficult to 2nd guess what's going on

NaiveMelodies

sting60 wrote: »

As a rule I never do doubles etc but spotted this last night and did 5e win yankee at far better odds than currently.My luck is in because I got the Jackpot at Wolves the other day for 16e investment got 1,200 back.

Cool, well no luck placing any multiples online at any other price than sp so I'll sit this one out.

NaiveMelodies

BumperD wrote: »

Didn't Curley snap 1mln+ with 4 horse L15 couple yrs back, 3 won. There was a similar plunge a yr later, all well beaten so its difficult to 2nd guess what's going on

He's had a few coups, worth reading up on him, great stories.

shamdrog63

BumperD wrote: »

Didn't Curley snap 1mln+ with 4 horse L15 couple yrs back, 3 won. There was a similar plunge a yr later, all well beaten so its difficult to 2nd guess what's going on

Didnt he have a dispute with Betfred who wouldn,t pay him out?

BumperD

Yep. All settled though if memory serves me correct. Should be fun to see how they get on.

kiers47

Only Barney Curly could get a Group2 winning horse down to a rating of 56 in 3 years.

byronbay2

sting60 wrote: »

Low Key,Indus Valley,Eye Of The Tiger and Seven Summits all have two things in common.They are been smashed in the betting and all were once owned by Barney Curley Anne Stokell gamble the other day should have been picked up here.It was backed last year from 25/1 to 6/4 and was withdrawn at the start with owner suspended with horse for a year I think.He has given all his horses to Stokell so watch out over coming weeks.

Here's a bit more info .....

https://twitter.com/kevinblake2011/status/425948223828549632/photo/1

sting60

Wont be around Friday so Keep on eye out for Gold Falcon at Dundalk.Nearly pulled a nice touch last week[someone said he was 40/1] I got 25/1 to 16/1.Have been watching a horse all year and he is dropped so far in the handicap it is scary but he runs in Gold Falcons race and he could open at very attractive odds too.

Francie Barrett

Rotten.

BorneTobyWilde

Wilfred Prickles 3.05 Lingfield
9-2 ew
Unlucky last time out, decent chance today.

sting60

1ST up in Yankee @5/2 come on Barney hurt those horrible bookies.5/2 and 7/2 and rolling.Now waiting for Indus Valley 4/1,Low Key 9/4.

kiers47

I had 1 bet today when the market opened up before the ridiculousness insued it was Logical Approach in this next race. Thought he was the most likely winner in a horrendous race. If he is second to this Curly yoke i might just vomit a little.

Francie Barrett

There's the second one.

Francie Barrett

kiers47 wrote: »

I had 1 bet today when the market opened up before the ridiculousness insued it was Logical Approach in this next race. Thought he was the most likely winner in a horrendous race. If he is second to this Curly yoke i might just vomit a little.

Not good news, looks fatal

Francie Barrett

Stan James are 1/4 for Curley's next horse!

kiers47

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Not good news, looks fatal

Didnt see it. But presume he fell from the betfair market.

Stan James gone 1/4 about Indus Valey a general 1/2 shot everywhere else

UrbanSea

sting60 wrote: »

1ST up in Yankee @5/2 come on Barney hurt those horrible bookies.5/2 and 7/2 and rolling.Now waiting for Indus Valley 4/1,Low Key 9/4.

I wish everyone of them came trailing last. What's horrible the bookies or the non trying owners and trainers out to fill their pockets. Imagine having backed one of these non triers last time out and watch them bolt up today. The sport is so fixed it beggars belief

irish_major

UrbanSea wrote: »

I wish everyone of them came trailing last. What's horrible the bookies or the non trying owners and trainers out to fill their pockets. Imagine having backed one of these non triers last time out and watch them bolt up today. The sport is so fixed it beggars belief

Im afraid the prize money ain't gonna pay the way. Love seeing these plans executed well

UrbanSea

irish_major wrote: »

Im afraid the prize money ain't gonna pay the way. Love seeing these plans executed well

That excuse doesn't cut it. If you're looking for a money making investment buying a racehorse isn't it

The Mig

UrbanSea wrote: »

That excuse doesn't cut it. If you're looking for a money making investment buying a racehorse isn't it

It is when Coups similar to this land!

STADEdeLUC

Not on the gamble, but watching it closely, hope it comes in love these gambles

byronbay2

UrbanSea wrote: »

I wish everyone of them came trailing last. What's horrible the bookies or the non trying owners and trainers out to fill their pockets. Imagine having backed one of these non triers last time out and watch them bolt up today. The sport is so fixed it beggars belief

I'm delighted that these Barney Curley coups show the sport up for what it really is at the lower level: a game of cat-and-mouse between bookies and owners/trainers/punters. At gaff tracks (particularly on the all-weather), horses aren't running to win prize money but to land bets and form is only a minor factor to consider in your punting strategy. It's more important to spot horses that have been running with "the handbrake on", with the jockey taking it easy and the trainer having every excuse going for the horse's poor form. Then, when the time is right and no other trainer has "booked" the race with one of their "improvers", the money goes down (the most important factor in the punting decision) and you see what the horse is really capable of. The handbrake then goes on again for another (minimum) 6 months.

I'm no genius but I realised long ago that the ordinary punter, with no inside info, has no chance of winning on these low-grade races and is only subsidising the bookies for the days when they, very occasionally, have to pay out to those who know what they're doing! I hope Barney takes them for millions!!