Cannabis is less harmful than alcohol. Obama

mikom

Well lookie here........

Obama has come out and said it......

In an interview with the New Yorker's David Remnick published Sunday, Obama said while he believes marijuana is "not very healthy," the drug isn't as harmful as some insist.

“As has been well documented, I smoked pot as a kid, and I view it as a bad habit and a vice, not very different from the cigarettes that I smoked as a young person up through a big chunk of my adult life. I don’t think it is more dangerous than alcohol," Obama told Remnick.

When asked if he believes marijuana is less harmful than alcohol, Obama said it is less damaging "in terms of its impact on the individual consumer."

"We should not be locking up kids or individual users for long stretches of jail time when some of the folks who are writing those laws have probably done the same thing," he said.

In August, the Obama administration announced it would not stop Washington and Colorado from legalizing recreational marijuana use, marking a major step away from the administration's war on drugs.

“It's important for it to go forward because it’s important for society not to have a situation in which a large portion of people have at one time or another broken the law and only a select few get punished," he said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/19/obama-marijuana-alcohol_n_4627740.html

"We should not be locking up kids or individual users for long stretches of jail time when some of the folks who are writing those laws have probably done the same thing," he said.

Won't be long now folks, as America has sneezed.

RDM_83 again

what does less harmful to the individual consumet Mean? Studies show that drinking Alcohol actually correlates to a Longer Life Expectancy than non Drinkers.

steddyeddy

Just around the same time as ice came out as being cold.

mikeym

Maybe they might legalise it in Jamaica now

The Diabolical Monocle

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Nolanator Rugby

I just don't understand why people need to turn to drugs

mikom

RDM_83 again wrote: »

what does less harmful to the individual consumet Mean?

Dunno.
What's a consumet?

Phill Ewinn

If O'Bama likes it. That makes it OK lol.

biko

He also said he'd close Guantanamo detention centre.

Lapin

Its Barack 'Ming' Obama. :pac:

IvySlayer

Typical Obama, anything to keep his popularity up. He's just hopping on the bandwagon now.

Why didn't he say this years ago and save a lot of money that was wasted on the war on drugs? The prisons been overflowed?

nelly17

It will be long, our legislators dont have the bottle to even come close

nelly17

Nolanator Rugby wrote: »

I just don't understand why people need to turn to drugs

Do you drink alcohol?

bleg

Nolanator Rugby wrote: »

I just don't understand why people need to turn to drugs

That's fine. You don't understand them.

There are plenty of things we all don't understand.

MilanPan!c

RDM_83 again wrote: »

what does less harmful to the individual consumet Mean? Studies show that drinking Alcohol actually correlates to a Longer Life Expectancy than non Drinkers.

Alcohol in moderation, yes. But I doubt that's what he was talking about.

Me?

What Obama says now will have little relevance when the next president will most likely be a republican.

MilanPan!c

IvySlayer wrote: »

Typical Obama, anything to keep his popularity up. He's just hopping on the bandwagon now.

Why didn't he say this years ago and save a lot of money that was wasted on the war on drugs? The prisons been overflowed?

Him saying it doesn't make any difference in that laws, does it? He's also not - like pretty much all US national politicians - going to lead the charge on decriminalising pot. For all the obvious reasons.

He also has to deal with the fact that a huge chunk of America - including religious leaders and police - don't think that decriminalisation is a great idea.

MilanPan!c

Me? wrote: »

What Obama says now will have little relevance when the next president will most likely be a republican.

That's hardly true. The next President will - for many many reasons - mostly likely be a Dem.

Chris The Hacker

MilanPan!c wrote: »

That's hardly true. The next President will - for many many reasons - mostly likely be a Dem.

Unless Mitt Romney runs again.

MilanPan!c

Chris The Hacker wrote: »

Unless Mitt Romney runs again.

bwahahah...

IvySlayer

MilanPan!c wrote: »

Him saying it doesn't make any difference in that laws, does it? He's also not - like pretty much all US national politicians - going to lead the charge on decriminalising pot. For all the obvious reasons.

He also has to deal with the fact that a huge chunk of America - including religious leaders and police - don't think that decriminalisation is a great idea.

The head of the federal government, leader of the biggest party in the US doesn't make a difference?

Almost every Democrat in the House and Senate will be asked whether they agree with Obama or not....

MilanPan!c

IvySlayer wrote: »

The head of the federal government, leader of the biggest party in the US doesn't make a difference?

Almost every Democrat in the House and Senate will be asked whether they agree with Obama or not....

He is this close to being a lame duck and he knows it.

Now if Hillary Clinton said it... That would be news.

Yellow121

It's bad enough having boring drunks around the place, do people want more boring stoners now also?

Renegade Mechanic

Why not tax it like cigarettes, but regulate it like alcohol? No driving, use during work etc etc..... Surely that could work

MilanPan!c

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Why not tax it like cigarettes, but regulate it like alcohol? No driving, use during work etc etc..... Surely that could work

It does and will continue to.

SilverScreen

Yellow121 wrote: »

It's bad enough having boring drunks around the place, do people want more boring stoners now also?

I'd prefer boring stoners to boring drunks anytime in all fairness.

Daqster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqlHJCtz5nE

DamagedTrax

Nolanator Rugby wrote: »

I just don't understand why people need to turn to drugs

never taken a panadol?

i'd rather vaporize a flower from the earth tbh.

which one is actually a 'drug'?

SV

nelly17 wrote: »

It will be long, our legislators dont have the bottle to even come close

Watch how quick they'll fold when America does..UK will follow suit and Ireland will toe the line.

Yellow121

SilverScreen wrote: »

I'd prefer boring stoners to boring drunks anytime in all fairness.

Hahhahahaha look at your silver head. hahahahahhahaah

SV

Yellow121 wrote: »

Hahhahahaha look at your silver head. hahahahahhahaah

I don't know if that was meant to be poking fun at the stereotype that all stoners find everything funny but I dunno, I haven't found that to be true in any cases.
Mellow, perhaps. Finding everything humorous? Nah.

SilverScreen

I'm still on the fence about cannabis being legalised in Ireland. I am in favour of being freely able to smoke it. But I feel that if it was legalised, the government would slap so much tax on it that you wished it was still illegal.

SilverScreen

Yellow121 wrote: »

Hahhahahaha look at your silver head. hahahahahhahaah

Lolwut?

Yellow121

SV wrote: »

I don't know if that was meant to be poking fun at the stereotype that all stoners find everything funny but I dunno, I haven't found that to be true in any cases.
Mellow, perhaps. Finding everything humorous? Nah.

It's sooooo boring. People who do drugs are selfish, I include drink. There's nothing funny or interesting when you're talking absolute crap.
By the way I drink and have smoked so I include myself in this. Boring, it makes me feel better but I'm sure others don't find my sh1te amusing.

SV

Yellow121 wrote: »

It's sooooo boring. People who do drugs are selfish, I include drink. There's nothing funny or interesting when you're talking absolute crap.
By the way I drink and have smoked so I include myself in this. Boring, it makes me feel better but I'm sure others don't find my sh1te amusing.

I've found people who don't do drugs to be the most boring to be honest.

Yellow121

SilverScreen wrote: »

Lolwut?

Ya grey badger ahahahhahahah I want to go horse riding with a badger instead hahahahhahahahahah

Yellow121

SV wrote: »

I've found people who don't do drugs to be the most boring to be honest.

Talking about moral issues and how you'd change things isn't interesting.

SilverScreen

Yellow121 wrote: »

Ya grey badger ahahahhahahah I want to go horse riding with a badger instead hahahahhahahahahah

Mind them badgers now. They don't like sharing their jellybabies.

Nate--IRL--

SilverScreen wrote: »

I'm still on the fence about cannabis being legalised in Ireland. I am in favour of being freely able to smoke it. But I feel that if it was legalised, the government would slap so much tax on it that you wished it was still illegal.

As long as sale and distribution is taken out of the hands of the people that profit of it now I'll be happy.

Nate

SV

Yellow121 wrote: »

Talking about moral issues and how you'd change things isn't interesting.

Yes because that sounds familiar
You sound like you just have boring friends and/or are a boring person. Expand your horizons.

Yellow121

SilverScreen wrote: »

Mind them badgers now. They don't like sharing their jellybabies.

They stole my underpants ahahahahahahha so i put on some knickers ahahahahhahaha knickerpoper ahahah

Yellow121

SV wrote: »

Yes because that sounds familiar
You sound like you just have boring friends and/or are a boring person. Expand your horizons.

Smoking weed makes you so much more intersting. Why can't you rely on your own personality?

J_E

Yellow121 wrote: »

They stole my underpants ahahahahahahha so i put on some knickers ahahahahhahaha knickerpoper ahahah

ahaha!

haha.

ah...

Yellow121

Cydoniac wrote: »

ahaha!

haha.

ah...

Boring huh?

SV

Yellow121 wrote: »

Smoking weed makes you so much more intersting. Why can't you rely on your own personality?

I do rely on my own personality? In what universe does weed turn you into a completely different person?

AngryHippie

MilanPan!c wrote: »

He also has to deal with the fact that a huge chunk of America - including religious leaders and police - don't think that decriminalisation is a great idea.

He also has to deal with the fact that a huge chunk of America - including religious leaders and police - don't think that decriminalisation is a great idea. Don't believe in the theory of evolution.:pac:

Yellow121

SV wrote: »

I do rely on my own personality? In what universe does weed turn you into a completely different person?

Why smoke it then?

Guy:Incognito

So something that people want legalised is less harmful than something that most likely wouldn't be legalised if it was only introduced now.

Maybe it's just an admission that alcohol never should have been legalised as a warning about the dangers of legalising cannabis ? :-)

SV

Yellow121 wrote: »

Why smoke it then?

Oh good god. Maybe it's because the effects of it are enjoyable?
Is altering your personality the only reason for doing something like that? Well I guess if you're quite a boring person you might be of that opinion..

sawdoubters

•Many of the carcinogens and co-carcinogens present in tobacco smoke are also present in smoke from marijuana.


•Marijuana smoking does cause inflammation and cell damage, and it has been associated with pre-cancerous changes in lung tissue.


•Marijuana has been shown to cause immune system dysfunction, possibly predisposing individuals to cancer.


Cannabis smoke contains many of the same cancer causing substances (carcinogens) as tobacco - at least 50 of them. In addition, cannabis is often mixed with tobacco when smoked.

One of these carcinogens is benzyprene. Benzyprene is in the tar of both tobacco and cannabis cigarettes. We know that benzyprene causes cancer. It alters a gene called p53, which is a tumour suppressor gene. We know that 3 out of 4 lung cancers (75%) occur in people who have faulty p53 genes. The p53 gene is also linked to many other cancers.

Cannabis also contains a substance called THC (tetrahydrocannabinol). It is the THC in the cannabis that changes your mood and behaviour. The amount of THC in a cannabis cigarette varies considerably. Researchers have shown that THC causes benzpyrene to promote the p53 gene to change.

suicide_circus

obama is a stoney cnut.

thing is, if weed were legalised in ireland, the government would fook it up somehow. at the moment I can get high grade ganja at the drop of a hat with little or no danger.