Irishman just scored a century for England

stefan idiot jones

Eoin Morgan has just scored one hundred runs for England against the Aussies in cricket.

Would you play for England in sport if your own country didn't/can't/never have played your particular sport?

Jimoslimos

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

Eoin Morgan has just scored one hundred runs for England against the Aussies in cricket.

Would you play for England in sport if your own country didn't/can't/never have played your particular sport?

How did he not make the Test team, can't have been worse than the shambles it was.

Not an ideal situation but it's professional sport and the chap has the right to earn a living and be paid what he's worth. The ICC show little interest in developing cricket outside the Test nations.

kneemos

Damn fine game.

Our boys will give them what for.

Fratton Fred

That's the oddity of cricket. If you want to play at the very top level, you have to play for one of the test nations.

Players can switch nations if they haven't played international cricket for two years.this is one of the reason Afghanistan are doing well at the moment.

preston johnny

Well done Eoin Morgan

lkionm

Woo sports. Hit the goal. Do the sports.

gramar

Huzzah! tally-ho! jolly good show old boy hitting them for 6 and all that!

Shane-KornSpace

Lol cricket....

Clonmel1000

Isn't there loads of English Scottish Kiwis Aussies playing for the Irish soccer and rugby teams for years?

Eight Ball

Traitor

































I may or may not be serious.

Gyalist

Fratton Fred wrote: »

That's the oddity of cricket. If you want to play at the very top level, you have to play for one of the test nations.

Players can switch nations if they haven't played international cricket for two years.this is one of the reason Afghanistan are doing well at the moment.

Not true. The qualification period is usually 4/5 years. All the Afghan players were born in Afghanistan. A few play club cricket in Pakistan but they are all Afghan.

The current England XI actually has two Irishmen - Eoin Morgan and Boyd Rankin, Gary Ballance is Zimbabwean, Ben Stokes is a Kiwi and Chris Jordan is Barbadian.

Banjoxed

Reading this thread has persuaded me that I shall now stop speaking the language of the Gall and converse in future in sweet mellifluous Irish.



Cat. Seo e Cat.

Lapin

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

Would you play for England in sport if your own country didn't/can't/never have played your particular sport?

You make it sound as though the English all have scabies or something.

Whats the problem here?

A professional earning his living abroad - no big deal.

Nobody passes any remarks on an Irishman being head of British Airways.

Gyalist

Lapin wrote: »

You make it sound as though the English all have scabies or something.

Whats the problem here?

A professional earning his living abroad - no big deal.

Nobody passes any remarks on an Irishman being head of British Airways.

Alan Joyce, the CEO of QANTAS, is also Irish.

caustic 1

Good on him.

Phill Ewinn

He must be wore out.


Good man.

irishfeen

Worst sport in the world!

gramar

Lapin wrote: »

Nobody passes any remarks on an Irishman being head of British Airways.

Gyalist wrote: »

Alan Joyce, the CEO of QANTAS, is also Irish.

Michael O'Leary CEO of Ryanair is Irish too.

kneemos

gramar wrote: »

Michael O'Leary CEO of Ryanair is Irish too.

I'm Irish .

Fratton Fred

Gyalist wrote: »

Not true. The qualification period is usually 4/5 years. All the Afghan players were born in Afghanistan. A few play club cricket in Pakistan but they are all Afghan.

The current England XI actually has two Irishmen - Eoin Morgan and Boyd Rankin, Gary Ballance is Zimbabwean, Ben Stokes is a Kiwi and Chris Jordan is Barbadian.

Usually 4/5 years. The ICC seem to bend that rule somewhat.

In the ODI at Clontarf in September, Boyd Rankin bowled Ed Joyce, as he did the previous time the sides met, except that time Rankin was playing for Ireland and Joyce England!

I.didn't realise that about Afghanistan, I was under the impression a number of them were Pakistani.

Cookie_Monster

Gyalist wrote: »

Alan Joyce, the CEO of QANTAS, is also Irish.

Lapin wrote: »

Nobody passes any remarks on an Irishman being head of British Airways.

Both of which are International corporations, not national sports teams, no comparison.

BillyMitchel

It's all good, the man is free to do as he pleases.


What I really can't get my head around is what the fock are you doing watching cricket before 7am?

Gyalist

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Usually 4/5 years. The ICC seem to bend that rule somewhat.

In the ODI at Clontarf in September, Boyd Rankin bowled Ed Joyce, as he did the previous time the sides met, except that time Rankin was playing for Ireland and Joyce England!

I.didn't realise that about Afghanistan, I was under the impression a number of them were Pakistani.

It's two years only if you are going back to Associate cricket from Test cricket as Joyce did a few years ago.

Some of the Afghans first learned the game in the refugee camps in Pakistan and many are ethnic Pashtuns (Pathans), Pashtuns are also the second largest ethnic group in Pakistan.

stefan idiot jones

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

Would you play for England in sport if your own country didn't/can't/never have played your particular sport?

What do you mean if your own country can't play? Ireland beat England not so long ago in Cricket (with a fastest century record from Kevin O Brien) and have only recently won the Intercontinental Cup. They also give a good account of themselves in World Cup competitions don't they?

BillyMitchel

Didn't Ireland beat Pakistan a few years back?

Is that like Shamrock Rovers beating Man Utd?

bumper234

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Both of which are International corporations, not national sports teams, no comparison.

No one seemed to mind when Jack Charlton took over the Irish team.

gramar

bumper234 wrote: »

No one seemed to mind when Jack Charlton took over the Irish team.

...and managed a team made up of Englishmen and Irish men playing in England.....

stefan idiot jones

BillyMitchel wrote: »

It's all good, the man is free to do as he pleases.


What I really can't get my head around is what the fock are you doing watching cricket before 7am?

I'm just home from work Down Under.

kneemos

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

I'm just home from work Down Under.

Miner eh.

stefan idiot jones

Omackeral wrote: »

What do you mean if your own country can't play? Ireland beat England not so long ago in Cricket (with a fastest century record from Kevin O Brien) and have only recently won the Intercontinental Cup. They also give a good account of themselves in World Cup competitions don't they?

Should he represent Ireland then?

spank_inferno

He can be a terrific batsman & is well liked but under the current management is not likely to be selected for the test team in the near future.

force eleven

Arise, Sir Eoin Morgan O.B.E

Fratton Fred

Omackeral wrote: »

What do you mean if your own country can't play? Ireland beat England not so long ago in Cricket (with a fastest century record from Kevin O Brien) and have only recently won the Intercontinental Cup. They also give a good account of themselves in World Cup competitions don't they?

Ireland don't play test cricket nor do they go on long first class tours like England, Australia, India etc would do

Irish cricket is improving though and Ireland are arguably the "best of the rest" in international terms. Cricket Ireland have the objective of being a test nation by 2020, which is very ambitious, but not unreasonable.

Mahogany Gaspipe

Cricket is surprisingly not too bad to watch, not test cricket but the 20/20 cricket.

Beats darts or snooker for me anyhow.

Gyalist

spank_inferno wrote: »

He can be a terrific batsman & is well liked but under the current management is not likely to be selected for the test team in the near future.

He could get back in if (when) KP is dropped.

The centrally contracted England players are on a basic of £700,000 annually plus match fees and performance bonuses.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

we're at a sad stage in human development if people are actually admitting publically to watching cricket

Gyalist

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Ireland don't play test cricket nor do they go on long first class tours like England, Australia, India etc would do

Irish cricket is improving though and Ireland are arguably the "best of the rest" in international terms. Cricket Ireland have the objective of being a test nation by 2020, which is very ambitious, but not unreasonable.

The Ireland A squad are in Sri Lanka at the moment, the full team will be in the Caribbean soon to play in the 50 overs competition there, the Irish Women are currently playing in Qatar, there's a group of players training in Australia for the winter, there's a group of 15/16 year-olds in South Africa for the Easter term, and Ireland U16s are making a tour to South Africa next month.

Fratton Fred

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

we're at a sad stage in human development if people are actually admitting publically to watching cricket

As a previous poster pointed out, it is far more interesting than a number of other "cool" sports.

Have you ever been to a game? The atmosphere at a one dayer, particularly a big game, is great. It is also a respectable form of knacker drinking.

stefan idiot jones

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

we're at a sad stage in human development if people are actually admitting publically to watching cricket

I was at the Gabba last week watching 20/20 and proud to admit it.

Royale with Cheese

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

we're at a sad stage in human development if people are actually admitting publically to watching cricket

Yeah look at those 95,000 morons filling the MCG to watch the Ashes. I've never understood the hate cricket gets, it's a very popular sport in certain countries. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Why a large percentage of this country feels the need to belittle other people's interest in it is beyond me. The looks people have given me when I tell them I play cricket, it's like I'm coming out to these people.

kidneyfan

Gyalist wrote: »

Alan Joyce, the CEO of QANTAS, is also Irish.

TRAAAAI HURRR

Fratton Fred

Gyalist wrote: »

The Ireland A squad are in Sri Lanka at the moment, the full team will be in the Caribbean soon to play in the 50 overs competition there, the Irish Women are currently playing in Qatar, there's a group of players training in Australia for the winter, there's a group of 15/16 year-olds in South Africa for the Easter term, and Ireland U16s are making a tour to South Africa next month.

I know, but there is no six test, five ODI type series. In the west Indies they are only playing one full ODI and two T20s, with the rest of the games at club level.

I'm not belittling it, but it isn't on the same level as an Ashes tour.

Fratton Fred

Rankin just took a wicket.

irishmover

BillyMitchel wrote: »

It's all good, the man is free to do as he pleases.


What I really can't get my head around is what the fock are you doing watching cricket before 7am?

Just because you don't enjoy something doesn't mean everyone else in the world shouldn't.

kneemos

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Rankin just took a wicket.

Well tell him to give it back.

irishmover

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

I was at the Gabba last week watching 20/20 and proud to admit it.

I was at the gabba for the Saturday of the first test in November. Wasn't one to watch a lot of cricket (apart from Ireland) before that but it's a good day out. Great banter and great atmosphere.

Gyalist

BillyMitchel wrote: »

It's all good, the man is free to do as he pleases.


What I really can't get my head around is what the fock are you doing watching cricket before 7am?

I've been up most of the night working on a Sports Capital Programme grant application for my cricket club.

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I know, but there is no six test, five ODI type series. In the west Indies they are only playing one full ODI and two T20s, with the rest of the games at club level.

I'm not belittling it, but it isn't on the same level as an Ashes tour.

True, but baby steps. The infrastructure has to be put in place first.

livEwirE

According to his wiki article he was born in Dublin.

Eoin Joseph Gerard Morgan (born 10 September 1986) is effectively English now, playing for the England national cricket team.

WTF?

Fratton Fred

Gyalist wrote: »

True, but baby steps. The infrastructure has to be put in place first.

Absolutely. Cricket Ireland has come a long way and seems to be doing everything right so far.

I'm hoping RSA's recent problems won't mean them withdrawing support, that seems to have helped enormously.

FTA69

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Yeah look at those 95,000 morons filling the MCG to watch the Ashes. I've never understood the hate cricket gets, it's a very popular sport in certain countries. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Why a large percentage of this country feels the need to belittle other people's interest in it is beyond me. The looks people have given me when I tell them I play cricket, it's like I'm coming out to these people.

If I'd a son I'd be more comfortable with him coming out than him playing cricket.

razorblunt

I thought Morgan had come back to play with Ireland, or were there rumours he was going to do this before getting recalled.