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Six Nations 2014 General Discussion
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13-01-2014 6:52pm#1
Date|Fixture|Irish Time
|Week 1|
Sat 1 Feb|Wales v Italy|14:30
Sat 1 Feb|France v England|17:00
Sun 2 Feb|Ireland v Scotland|15:00
|Week 2|
Sat 8 Feb|Ireland v Wales|14:30
Sat 8 Feb|Scotland v England|17:00
Sun 9 Feb|France v Italy|15:00
|Week 3|
Fri 21 Feb|Wales v France|20:00
Sat 22 Feb|Italy v Scotland|13:30
Sat 22 Feb|England v Ireland|16:00
|Week 4|
Sat 8 Mar|Ireland v Italy|14:30
Sat 8 Mar|Scotland v France|17:00
Sun 9 Mar|England v Wales|15:00
|Week 5|
Sat 15 Mar|Italy v England|12:30
Sat 15 Mar|Wales v Scotland|14:45
Sat 15 Mar|France v Ireland|19:00The Refs (Cheers Ssaye2)
The Squads
England:
Forwards: Attwood (Bath), Cole (Leicester), Hartley (Northampton), Kvesic (Gloucester), Johnson (Exeter), Launchbury (Wasps), Lawes (Northampton), Marler (Harlequins), Morgan (Gloucester), Mullan (Wasps), Robshaw (Harlequins), Slater (Leicester), Thomas (Sale Sharks), B Vunipola (Saracens), M Vunipola (Saracens), Webber (Bath), Wood (Northampton), Youngs (Leicester).
Backs: Ashton (Saracens), Barritt (Saracens), Brown (Harlequins), Burrell (Northampton), Care (Harlequins), Dickson (Northampton), Eastmond (Bath), Farrell (Saracens), Ford (Bath), Goode (Saracens), May (Gloucester), Myler (Northampton), Nowell (Exeter), Twelvetrees (Gloucester), Youngs (Leicester), Watson (Bath), Wigglesworth (Saracens).
Italy:
Forwards: Martin Castrogiovanni, Lorenzo Cittadini, Alberto De Marchi, Michele Rizzo, Leonardo Ghiraldini, Davide Giazzon, Marco Bortolami, Marco Fuser, Quintin Geldenhuys, Antonio Pavanello, Robert Barbieri, Mauro Bergamasco, Paul Derbyshire, Joshua Furno, Sergio Parisse (captain), Alessandro Zanni.
Backs: Edoardo Gori, Tobias Botes, Tommaso Allan, Luciano Orquera, Tommaso Benvenuti, Michele Campagnaro, Gonzalo Garcia, Alberto Sgarbi, Mirco Bergamasco, Angelo Esposito, Tommaso Iannone, Luke McLean, Guglielmo Palazzani, Leonardo Sarto.
France: (Preliminary squad)
Forwards: Thomas Domingo, Yannick Forestier, Benjamin Kayser, Dimitri Szarzewski, Nicolas Mas, Rabah Slimani, Alexandre Flanquart, Yoann Maestri, Pascal Papé, Sébastien Vahaamahina, Antoine Burban, Thierry Dusautoir (capt), Bernard Le Roux, Yannick Nyanga, Damien Chouly, Louis Picamoles;
Backs: Jean-Marc Doussain, Maxime Machenaud, Jules Plisson, Rémi Talès, Mathieu Bastareaud, Gaël Fickou, Wesley Fofana, Maxime Mermoz, Sofiane Guitoune, Yoann Huget, Maxime Médard, Geoffrey Palis, Hugo Bonneval, Brice Dulin.
Wales:
Forwards: Paul James (Bath), Gethin Jenkins (Cardiff Blues), Ryan Bevington (Ospreys), Richard Hibbard (Ospreys), Ken Owens (Scarlets), Emyr Phillips (Scarlets), Adam Jones (Ospreys), Samson Lee (Scarlets), Rhodri Jones (Scarlets), Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys), Luke Charteris (Perpignan), Ian Evans (Ospreys), Andrew Coombs (Dragons), Ryan Jones (Ospreys), Justin Tipuric (Ospreys), Sam Warburton Capt (Cardiff Blues), Toby Faletau (Dragons), Dan Lydiate (Racing Metro), Aaron Shingler (Scarlets)
Backs: Rhodri Williams (Scarlets), Mike Phillips (Racing Metro), Rhys Webb (Ospreys), Dan Biggar (Ospreys), Rhys Priestland (Scarlets), James Hook (Perpignan), Jonathan Davies (Scarlets), Jamie Roberts (Racing Metro), Scott Williams (Scarlets), Alex Cuthbert (Cardiff Blues), George North (Northampton Saints), Leigh Halfpenny (Cardiff Blues), Liam Williams (Scarlets).
Scotland:
Forwards: John Beattie (Montpellier), Kelly Brown (Saracens), Geoff Cross, David Denton, Alasdair Dickinson, Ross Ford (all Edinburgh Rugby), Chris Fusaro (Glasgow Warriors), Grant Gilchrist (Edinburgh Rugby), Ryan Grant, Jonny Gray (both Glasgow Warriors), Richie Gray (Castres), Jim Hamilton (Montpellier), Robert Harley (Glasgow Warriors), Scott Lawson (Newcastle Falcons), Kieran Low (London Irish), Moray Low, Pat MacArthur (both Glasgow Warriors), Ross Rennie (Edinburgh Rugby) Alasdair Strokosch (Perpignan), Tim Swinson and Ryan Wilson (both Glasgow Warriors).
Backs: Chris Cusiter (Glasgow Warriors), Nick De Luca (Edinburgh Rugby), Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors), Max Evans (Castres), Dougie Fife (Edinburgh Rugby), Stuart Hogg, Ruaridh Jackson, Sean Lamont (all Glasgow Warriors), Greig Laidlaw (Edinburgh Rugby), Sean Maitland (Glasgow Warriors), Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby), Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors), Duncan Taylor (Saracens), Greig Tonks (Edinburgh Rugby) and Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors).
Ireland:
Forwards: R Ah You, S Archer, R Best, R Copeland, S Cronin, R Diack, C Healy, J Heaslip, I Henderson, C Henry, R Herring, D Kilcoyne, M McCarthy, J McGrath, M Moore, J Murphy, P O'Connell, T O'Donnell, P O'Mahony, M Ross, R Ruddock, D Toner, D Tuohy, D Varley
Backs: I Boss, D Cave, G D'Arcy, K Earls, L Fitzgerald, R Henshaw, P Jackson, F Jones, D Kearney, R Kearney, I Keatley, I Madigan, K Marmion, L Marshall, F McFadden, C Murray, B O'Driscoll, E Reddan, J Sexton, A Trimble.
Wolfhounds to play on January 25th.
Who's it going to be?
The Six Nations this year look as unpredictable as ever. Wales have undoubted talent and are favourites given their exploits in the past two years and experienced, successful coach. However, the injuries woes of Davies, Roberts and possibly Gethin Jenkins could be major spanners in the works.
England have been on the rise over the past few years with a young squad and an effective game plan, but will be without the likes of Manu Tuilagi, Alex Corbisiero, Tom Croft and Geoff Parling.
For France, Philippe Saint-André seems as uncertain as ever about his preferred team, with Michalak and Trinh-Duc dropped from the squad.
Italy, who have been consistently improving under Jacques Brunel, will no doubt be boosted by the return of Bergamasco after a year on the sidelines, and will be high in confidence after schooling France and Ireland this time last year.
Scotland will be hoping that players like Hogg, Maitland, and Gray can help build on last year's tournament, in which they came third, but they may feel the absence of Murray up front.
Which leaves Ireland. It would be difficult to overstate the loss to the team associated with the absence of O'Brien. Who will be the one to try and fill his boots? There are other questions around back-up options at 13. Will this tournament be an opportunity to look at other options in this position, or does BOD need to play every match? Who are the other options? What about the front row - will we see the rise of Moore? And who will partner POC? McCarthy, Toner and Touhy have been in fine form, while Ryan and Henderson are coming back from injury. Who will be chosen of Gilroy, Fitzgerald, Earls, Zebo, Kearney, McFadden and Bowe (if he makes it back) on the wings?
Questions aside, there is plenty to be positive about. We have a relatively clean bill of health, with SOB and Strauss being the only major absences, and excellent backup options in most positions. Not to mention the presence of Joe the-almighty-one Schmidt at the helm. I'm undoubtedly biased, but definitely excited about what this tournament has in store for us.
Discuss!
P.S. I realise there was a recent thread on who will win, but there was a serious lack of logos and tables to underscore the momentousness of the competition :P. I just can't get properly excited now until I see logos and tables. I hope that's ok.Who will it be? 340 votes
Wales0%England11%
38 votes
France22%![[Deleted User]](https://wf.vanillicon.com/v2/f1442ccc185e18f355209531f1b4ecb2.svg)
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Ireland18%
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63 votes
Scotland47%
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161 votes
Italy0%
3 votes
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ScotlandIf we can beat Wales in Week 2 we can make a serious go of it. If we do that, it'll be because we're up to speed on Joe's plan.
Ideally (and given SOB is out
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Healy, Best, Ross, POC, Ryan, POM, Henry, Heaslip, Murray, Sexton, Fitzgerald, Marshall, BOD, Bowe, Kearney;
McGrath, Cronin, Moore, McCarthy, Ruddock, Reddan, Jackson, Zebo0 -
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ScotlandManu Tuilagi eyeing up a return sometime during the tournament. As long as it's after Feb 22nd!
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/jan/14/england-manu-tuilagi-struggling-six-nations0 -
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IrelandRecords show that France won every tournaments following a Lion's tour since the beginning of the pro era. 1998,2002,2006, 2010 with 3 Grand Slam so I'm surprised they don't get voted a bit more
With an unusual longer preparation period for les bleus before the first match I believe they will be ready to take on a weaken England especially with the boost of confidence given by the 2 wins of Toulouse over the Sarries in the Hcup.
If France beat England they have a great chance of winning the tournament.
Plus PSA desperatly needs results and I believe he will get them. The last time the team was under pressure to perform was in autumn 2012 to get in the first 4 for the WC draw and they delivered in fashion.
I'm betting on France this year. although that's the same bet for me every year
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ScotlandBoarHunter wrote: »Records show that France won every tournaments following a Lion's tour since the beginning of the pro era. 1998,2002,2006, 2010 with 3 Grand Slam so I'm surprised they don't get voted a bit more
With an unusual longer preparation period for les bleus before the first match I believe they will be ready to take on a weaken England especially with the boost of confidence given by the 2 wins of Toulouse over the Sarries in the Hcup.
If France beat England they have a great chance of winning the tournament.
Plus PSA desperatly needs results and I believe he will get them. The last time the team was under pressure to perform was in autumn 2012 to get in the first 4 for the WC draw and they delivered in fashion.
I'm betting on France this year. although that's the same bet for me every year
I see that there are three uncapped players called up from Stade Francais. I haven't really seen much of Stade this year - do you think they're players to look out for?0 -
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ScotlandBoarHunter wrote: »Plisson is a very promising out half. He has already put Morné Steyn on the bench ( of course Steyn deserves some rest after the 4 Nations but you would have expected him having more game time ). Good hands, clever distribution and runs good lines with a good boot as well. really looking forward to see him at this level.
Bonneval is a talent as well just as his father was back in the 80s in the bleu Jersey. Good attacking full back with speed and great lines. He will be a good contender to Dulin Jersey.
Burban is a work horse. A very physical flanker who tackles hard and is often first to arrive in the ruck zone.
Good to hear about a promising player coming through at 10. It seems to be an area where France has been lacking in recent years.
I think it could be an exciting game between Ireland and France, surely we can't have a draw for the third year in a row. If you could beat England and Wales along the way that would be appreciated Bonne chance! 0 -
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