Break-in in Dublin

bytesize

My parents home was broken into on Friday night when they were away. Thieves managed to break through porch door then smash glass in order to open front door. At that point they then had to beat the clock on the house alarm to disable it by some very unorthodox means. This left them all the time in the world to do what they wanted.

They made away with only 2 objects but those 2 objects contained everything in my parents lives that they worked for for the past 30 years.

My parents are understandibly distraught. I am in a foreign country too far away to travel there.

People, beware of thieves, do what you can to protect your homes, as thieves don't give a second thought to the lives they ruin or the aftermath for their victims.

Just had to vent a little, even if it is sadness

kneemos

Sounds pretty professional.
Had they anyone in the house who might have spotted these objects?Otherwise it could be someone they know.

green123

bytesize wrote: »

My parents home was broken into on Friday night when they were away. Thieves managed to break through porch door then smash glass in order to open front door. At that point they then had to beat the clock on the house alarm to disable it by some very unorthodox means. This left them all the time in the world to do what they wanted.

They made away with only 2 objects but those 2 objects contained everything in my parents lives that they worked for for the past 30 years.

My parents are understandibly distraught. I am in a foreign country too far away to travel there.

People, beware of thieves, do what you can to protect your homes, as thieves don't give a second thought to the lives they ruin or the aftermath for their victims.

Just had to vent a little, even if it is sadness

tell us what they were ?

diamonds ?
bars of gold ?

why did they have such valuable items in the house ?

fussyonion

green123 wrote: »

tell us what they were ?

diamonds ?
bars of gold ?

why did they have such valuable items in the house ?

And where did you expect them to keep their valuables?!

notnumber

bytesize wrote: »

My parents home was broken into on Friday night when they were away. Thieves managed to break through porch door then smash glass in order to open front door. At that point they then had to beat the clock on the house alarm to disable it by some very unorthodox means. This left them all the time in the world to do what they wanted.

They made away with only 2 objects but those 2 objects contained everything in my parents lives that they worked for for the past 30 years.

My parents are understandibly distraught. I am in a foreign country too far away to travel there.

People, beware of thieves, do what you can to protect your homes, as thieves don't give a second thought to the lives they ruin or the aftermath for their victims.

Just had to vent a little, even if it is sadness

Can you explain what they did to the Alarm?

Lapin

Sorry to read that OP.

bytesize wrote: »

My parents home was broken into on Friday night when they were away. Thieves managed to break through porch door then smash glass in order to open front door. At that point they then had to beat the clock on the house alarm to disable it by some very unorthodox means. This left them all the time in the world to do what they wanted.

Exact same thing happened my parents just over a month ago.

On a Friday evening too.

moxin

fussyonion wrote: »

And where did you expect them to keep their valuables?!

Perhaps try a storage facility?

Frank Black

bytesize wrote: »

They made away with only 2 objects but those 2 objects contained everything in my parents lives that they worked for for the past 30 years.

Do we have to guess what the objects were?


A valuable painiting and a Ming vase?

neckedit

moxin wrote: »

Perhaps try a storage facility?

Who keeps thier valueables in a "Storage Facility"?
Sorry to hear this OP.....
My place got broken into Sept last year.....caught them in the act. I have nothing but sympathy. These people are lowest form of life and should be treated as such.

Ghost Train

And iPad and fancy tea set?

Eight Ball

Could have been a safe I suppose doesn't matter really does it.

Sorry to hear about this OP. Some right scum out there and a lot of it has to do with our revolving door justice system. Thanks Shatter. Neighbours house got done last week also Gardai said CCTV footage of the break in was useless because of the hoods they had up even though it's obvious to all who the robbers where (two local scumbags well known to everyone in estate).

NuckingFacker

Those really expensive Jacobs biscuit boxes? Two full boxes?


sorry your folks got robbed btw op, sh1tty thing to happen to anyone.

moxin

neckedit wrote: »

Who keeps thier valueables in a "Storage Facility"?

A person who wants peace of mind that their valuables are locked in a hired safe locker with 24\7 manned security in a business park. Better that than the greater risk of your house being ransacked and valuables stolen.

JustAThought

Can't believe some of the responses here - I'm so sorry for your parents OP. my neighbours house was broken into before Christmas & this lovely elderly retired couple who had never been anything but hardworking & kind came home from a hospital visit to find their front window smashed in, all their tokens & jewellery taken , the car gone & later their credit card stripped - they are distraught & cannot even face going back to their home . It is disgusting how these vermin prey on people & how little regard the judges or justice " system" have for the victims, and for the long term damage this can do to their confidence or trust in their safety & security in their homes .

Singapore have the right idea - cat-of-9-tails - flogging by effective medieval means that leaves the skin torn away and permanent scarring - prison is too good for them - not that they would even get there.

I hope your parents goods might somehow be sourced & recovered ; and that they recover peace of mind. : (

suicide_circus

neckedit wrote: »

Who keeps thier valueables in a "Storage Facility"?

I keep my communion money locked in a lead lined vault at the bottom of a pond filled with electric eels and man eating mackerel.

Fishyfreak

Sorry to hear that OP but PLEASE GOD tell us what these 2 items were or we've got a 10+ pager on our hands!

bazza1

suicide_circus wrote: »

I keep my communion money locked in a lead lined vault at the bottom of a pond filled with electric eels and man eating mackerel.

Me too! but I swapped to Halibut as the mackerel were theiving bas***ds!

neckedit

moxin wrote: »

A person who wants peace of mind that their valuables are locked in a hired safe locker with 24\7 manned security in a business park. Better that than the greater risk of your house being ransacked and valuables stolen.

You Do This ^^^^......I'd love to hear how many people use storage facilities for their valuables People shouldn't have to live in fear of having their houses ransacked, I know its a utopian dream, but we are far to soft on this kind of crime, these pieces of sh*t walk a way leaving, in a lot of cases, the victims devastated for a very long time and causing no end of mental torture.


Any way hind sight is always 20/20........

tallus

Sorry to hear OP.
House thieves are lower than the lowest scum out there.

JustAThought

Just as well - too many ' inside jobs' where knacker thieves know exactly where to go or what the most valuable asset us, or the specific location to go to.

My friends daughter had her J1 money stolen from the tin under her bed - nothing else taken in the break in, my neighbours ditto - straight to the location of the biggest cash & jewellery, other family's under floor safe " found" & smashed in on payroll day - turns out it was an inside job too from family in china through contacts here - unbelievable.

Not only bring back flogging but let the family's of the victims do the flogging - or employ professional " expert" floggers & rub them down with salt or vinegar beforehand - that would make them hesitate. Nothing else seems to .

tritium

green123 wrote: »

tell us what they were ?

diamonds ?
bars of gold ?

why did they have such valuable items in the house ?

No need to be a d1ck at someone else's misfortune

Could have been as small as a hard disk full of photos or a particularly treasured piece of jewellery.

And why the hell should people live in fear anyway? The house was locked, the alarm was set. Unfortunately sometimes scum will be persistent

waraf

Sorry to read that OP.

On a practical note you should tell your parents to improve their home security as thieves are more likely to return to a place that they know how to get in to.

stefan idiot jones

Sorry to hear about that OP.

But rather than saying a prayer for your parents, I am now thinking my most evil and vindictive thoughts and by the power of will alone the most vile and gruesome misfortune will happen to those vermin who did this.

I'm thinking anal prolapse, leprosy, continous diarrhoea, blindness, gangrene, lock jaw, scurvy, whooping cough, tuberculosis, distemper, shingles and hang nail.

C'mon everybody, the power of thought.

anncoates

Fishyfreak wrote: »

Sorry to hear that OP but PLEASE GOD tell us what these 2 items were or we've got a 10+ pager on our hands!

Grandchildren?

Sorry to hear about it OP.

bitemybanger

Not just Dublin. my thread in Meath forum. there has been more since. Very brazen.

cloudatlas

Happened to me a few years ago. Had insurance so the losses were covered. The worst thing was the feeling of defilement, someone rifling through your cupboards trashing the place, these people are scum.

sadie06

That is just awful OP. I hope they come to terms with it, and find a way to relax in their own home once more.

Watched a scary doc a while ago about just how calculating professional thieves can be. It detailed how people who have collections of any value (figurines, musical instruments etc) are at a high risk of repeat burglaries, as the professionals make an educated guess as to how long it would take for an insurance claim to be processed, and for the victims to purchase replacement items. They then often come back for a second attempt.

If there is a chance that this was done by somebody who knew your parents had these valuables, I would put the word around that they will not be replacing them!

The Princess Bride

Hi OP .
Happened my family last month.
Gardaí were brilliant,scumbags caught the following week.
DPP awaiting file ,alas,that's where the justice system is lacking.

Pass this number on to your parents.
Victim Support @ 116006.
And advise them to increase their home security.

Arawn

an alarm should go off as soon as the house is broken into, why would your alarm have a time delay

Cuddlesworth

Arawn wrote: »

an alarm should go off as soon as the house is broken into, why would your alarm have a time delay

Every alarm has around 30 seconds to disarm it. In principle even if you take out the box in the hall, you would still have to deal with the outside siren and any phone/GSM warnings. The professional guys know how to disable most alarms without setting them off though.

Arawn

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Every alarm has around 30 seconds to disarm it. In principle even if you take out the box in the hall, you would still have to deal with the outside siren and any phone/GSM warnings. The professional guys know how to disable most alarms without setting them off though.

nope, ours goes off as soon as anything moves inside the house, and damag to windows etc

Tiddlypeeps

Arawn wrote: »

an alarm should go off as soon as the house is broken into, why would your alarm have a time delay

How would an alarm be able to tell the difference between a break in and someone normally entering the house?

Most of them just use movement sensors, all they can do is tell that there is movement in a certain area of the house and that a door/window was opened. You could programme it to go off if an the first sign of movement is in an unorthodox place like a window but for doors the vast majority of the time the movement is going to be the person who lives in the house so it needs a delay to allow them to shut it off without annoying the heck out of their neighbours.

Cuddlesworth

Arawn wrote: »

nope, ours goes off as soon as anything moves inside the house, and damag to windows etc

So when you open your door the alarm goes off?

Arawn

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

So when you open your door the alarm goes off?

yup

Tiddlypeeps

Arawn wrote: »

nope, ours goes off as soon as anything moves inside the house, and damag to windows etc

You're alarm goes off every time you enter your house?

Ninja'd: Your neighbours must love you!

Arawn

Tiddlypeeps wrote: »

How would an alarm be able to tell the difference between a break in and someone normally entering the house?

Most of them just use movement sensors, all they can do is tell that there is movement in a certain area of the house and that a door/window was opened. You could programme it to go off if an the first sign of movement is in an unorthodox place like a window but for doors the vast majority of the time the movement is going to be the person who lives in the house so it needs a delay to allow them to shut it off without annoying the heck out of their neighbours.

we live in the country not the city

Tabnabs

Arawn wrote: »

we live in the country not the city

So no-one cares if the alarm goes off...

Tiddlypeeps

Arawn wrote: »

we live in the country not the city

Fair enough. Most people live in urban areas so not having a delay and having your alarm go off all the time would be very inconsiderate and potentially illegal.

Larbre34

Chinese made GSM disruptors have made an appearance in the last year on the burglary circuit, they can frustrate all remote monitored alarms.

A friend of mine in the industry said they have mainly been detected in higher level robberies at commercial premises but the more plentiful the devices get they are more likely to appear in domestic burglaries, particularly where the thieves are targeting specific houses for high value items. That may explain the 'scanner' that people have reported seeing, but the devices can be as small as a cigarette box.

So, by all means have an alarm as a deterrent but you might as well spend the monitoring charge on pedigree chum and buy a suitably cranky dog.

Arawn

Tabnabs wrote: »

So no-one cares if the alarm goes off...

We live in an area that is only our family/ family friends we sold land to. The alarm goes off, then rings house occupants then our uncles.

Moocow100

I agree with Justa thought the Singapore method is effective the get 10 lashes but over a 4 week period the first 2 hurt real bad draw blood etc but the mental anguish in the buildup before the others are administered is generally enought to deter the majority away from re-offense . Horrible scum ,it was a Neighbor of mine who broke into my fathers house ,he was caught in another Neighbors house while they were burying there grandchild a few weeks later . Class act and no reflection on the rest of his family.

bitemybanger

I think half the problem is just how lawless ireland has become in the last few years and when they are brought in front of a Judge the sentences are laughable. Govt and Garda cut backs and the likes but God forbid you don't wear your seatbelt or pay your car tax.

Moocow100

The laws that are imposed on us law abiding citizens as in car tax etc are necessary but the guys with 70 convictions etc and playstations in prison etc need another deterrent the prison system is outdated and does not work the police can only enforce the laws in existence . Now everybody except the victim of crime has rights . Its time for the minister for justice to re think the system . Prison officers allow drug use and mobile phone use in prison because of intimidation and lack of protection for there families. Im not calling for public hanging or anything so brash but there has to be something else .

Arawn

Moocow100 wrote: »

The laws that are imposed on us law abiding citizens as in car tax etc are necessary but the guys with 70 convictions etc and playstations in prison etc need another deterrent the prison system is outdated and does not work the police can only enforce the laws in existence . Now everybody except the victim of crime has rights . Its time for the minister for justice to re think the system . Prison officers allow drug use and mobile phone use in prison because of intimidation and lack of protection for there families. Im not calling for public hanging or anything so brash but there has to be something else .

what a stupid statement

Tiddlypeeps

bitemybanger wrote: »

I think half the problem is just how lawless ireland has become in the last few years and when they are brought in front of a Judge the sentences are laughable. Govt and Garda cut backs and the likes but God forbid you don't wear your seatbelt or pay your car tax.

I heard on the radio this morning that the number of people entering the prison system is at an all time low. This was said in a congratulatory way too, I was a bit confused. I thought space in prisons was the main reason behind weak prosecutions for repeat offenders, but now I have no idea what judges are thinking.

Cuddlesworth

Arawn wrote: »

We live in an area that is only our family/ family friends we sold land to. The alarm goes off, then rings house occupants then our uncles.

You have trained everybody around to ignore your alarm when it goes off. Proper burglars cut the phone lines, carry a GSM jammer and knock off the siren within seconds. The only difference between your alarm and a normal one, is you piss off your family and if the burglars **** up and leave it running a little longer it's unlikely anybody would notice.

bitemybanger

Tiddlypeeps wrote: »

I heard on the radio this morning that the number of people entering the prison system is at an all time low. This was said in a congratulatory way too, I was a bit confused. I thought space in prisons was the main reason behind weak prosecutions for repeat offenders, but now I have no idea what judges are thinking.

Keeping a few cells free for the bankers...... oh wait!

the_monkey

Arawn wrote: »

what a stupid statement

Stupid really ??

I think he's bang on ...

Arawn

the_monkey wrote: »

Stupid really ??

I think he's bang on ...

you think prison officers stand around in work cowering while prisoners take whatever drugs they want while ringing up family?

Moocow100

To Be honest Arawn I wasn't going to answer your comment but you know every langer has an option some of us are just a little more articulate. I never said that about Prison officers my comment is know to be factual as in drug use and use of mobile phones in prisons combined with intimidation of Prison officers .
My general comment was on the Justice system as a whole and how the sentencing and punishments inflicted on those convicted of committing crime is carried out and what a lack of a deterrent that is ..........

martingriff

Arawn wrote: »

an alarm should go off as soon as the house is broken into, why would your alarm have a time delay

All alarms have a time delay so a person can turn it off