Corporal Punishment

kellaman123

Is there a place for corporal punishment of children in the home today? I would have got the wooden spoon from mum and leather belt from dad growing up as would most of my mates, these days it's relatively unheard off!

Hande hoche!

The wooden spoon was the nuclear option.

anncoates

I'm just going to copy and paste my opinion from the last 65 threads on the issue.

problemchimp

No need for it

Sir Humphrey Appleby

I would say it has a place.

Annasopra

No

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Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

If my little one steps out of line I say, "that's it, the match is going on for the next 3 hours!".

I have Match of the Day DVR'd so it takes only a few seconds to get the theme tune playing on the tv. She always does what I've asked her to do before it ends.

Who knew the Match of the Day theme tune could evoke such horror in a small child.

Grumpypants

As a parent it is often difficult to find time between Jeremy Kyle episodes to try things like raising your kids, teaching them right from wrong or talking to them like they are people.

So when they do something wrong (despite not understanding that it's wrong as no one ever took the time to explain it to them) the parent can use this form of punishment to physically hurt them, this physical pain coupled with the humiliation will leave lasting scars on the child that will last well into adulthood giving good "value for money" .

This does teach them valuable lessons like when you are frustrated you hit people, but only people who are smaller than you, trust you completely, never asked to be put in this scenario and have nowhere to escape too.

When they grow up this abuse ensures a healthy mental block and they think "I got hit and it never did me any harm" so the cycle repeats itself.

Warning*

Don't hit dogs this is against the law.

Recent changes in the law means it is no longer ok to hit your wife either. Even with a small stick.

Hitting other people in the street, as well as being dangerous is also illegal.

Crazy times we live in , what does society expect that parents start parenting? Luckily battering your kids is still perfectly legal.

kneemos

Grumpypants wrote: »

As a parent it is often difficult to find time between Jeremy Kyle episodes to try things like raising your kids, teaching them right from wrong or talking to them like they are people.

So when they do something wrong (despite not understanding that it's wrong as no one ever took the time to explain it to them) the parent can use this form of punishment to physically hurt them, this physical pain coupled with the humiliation will leave lasting scars on the child that will last well into adulthood giving good "value for money" .

This does teach them valuable lessons like when you are frustrated you hit people, but only people who are smaller than you, trust you completely, never asked to be put in this scenario and have nowhere to escape too.

When they grow up this abuse ensures a healthy mental block and they think "I got hit and it never did me any harm" so the cycle repeats itself.

Warning*

Don't hit dogs this is against the law.

Recent changes in the law means it is no longer ok to hit your wife either. Even with a small stick.

Hitting other people in the street, as well as being dangerous is also illegal.

Crazy times we live in , what does society expect that parents start parenting? Luckily battering your kids is still perfectly legal.

I agree,if they're not bleeding you haven't got their attention.

stefan idiot jones

Just putting this out there if the law changes in the next twenty years.

I am a non drinking, non smoking, placid vegetarian in my forties. I have no enemies or axe to grind. I genuinely look for the good in people........however........


If the death penalty was introduced, count me in to be the executioner. Whether it be hitting the switch, tapping the vein, strangulation or swinging the axe I really think that I could live with myself getting rid of the real vermin.

Sorry, back to the thread.

LETHAL LADY

It was the norm when I was in primary school. My teacher for first and second class had a glass eye and crossed over toes and a cane made from a pared back ash. I think she got off on using it, the cow. I'd love to meet her down a dark alley now.

problemchimp

Good post, I fear this might go over a few heads.

artanevilla

Capital punishment would teach them a better lesson.

problemchimp

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

Just putting this out there if the law changes in the next twenty years.

I am a non drinking, non smoking, placid vegetarian in my forties. I have no enemies or axe to grind. I genuinely look for the good in people........however........


If the death penalty was introduced, count me in to be the executioner. Whether it be hitting the switch, tapping the vein, strangulation or swinging the axe I really think that I could live with myself getting rid of the real vermin.

Sorry, back to the thread.

Good user name!

jjpep

It' amazes me that the most defenceless people in society are the only ones that it's legal to assault.

No, I'm not in favour of people hitting their kids. If you can't explain to your kid that they're doing something wrong your either an idiot or incapable of controlling your temper.

kneemos

problemchimp wrote: »

Good post, I fear this might go over a few heads.

Which post?

problemchimp

kneemos wrote: »

Which post?

Sorry, post 8 by Grumpypants. Thanks

LETHAL LADY

I worked with a woman who had one child. I was about to go on my first maternity leave (irrelevant I know) and she told me how she punished her only daughter by chasing her with a wooden spoon. I didn't like her anyway but her comment confirmed my thoughts. What a ****ing bitch thing to do to your child, caustic ****.

SeanW

jjpep wrote: »

If you can't explain to your kid that they're doing something wrong your either an idiot or incapable of controlling your temper.

What if the kid knows well that what they're doing is wrong?

tritium

I've been fortunate enough to see Ireland move from being a place where it was acceptable to beat children. Then move from a place where it was acceptable to beat women (not fully there but close). And I'm confident well soon face up properly to the reality of male domestic violence victims

Why would I ever want to go backwards on that op?

Femme_Fatale

Grumpypants wrote: »

As a parent it is often difficult to find time between Jeremy Kyle episodes to try things like raising your kids, teaching them right from wrong or talking to them like they are people.

So when they do something wrong (despite not understanding that it's wrong as no one ever took the time to explain it to them) the parent can use this form of punishment to physically hurt them, this physical pain coupled with the humiliation will leave lasting scars on the child that will last well into adulthood giving good "value for money" .

This does teach them valuable lessons like when you are frustrated you hit people, but only people who are smaller than you, trust you completely, never asked to be put in this scenario and have nowhere to escape too.

When they grow up this abuse ensures a healthy mental block and they think "I got hit and it never did me any harm" so the cycle repeats itself.

Warning*

Don't hit dogs this is against the law.

Recent changes in the law means it is no longer ok to hit your wife either. Even with a small stick.

Hitting other people in the street, as well as being dangerous is also illegal.

Crazy times we live in , what does society expect that parents start parenting? Luckily battering your kids is still perfectly legal.

No it isn't.

And I see you deliberately used an extreme scenario of people who are crap at parenting in general.

Giving the child a light slap on the clothed arse as a very last resort is obviously not comparable to the above.

Daqster

Jesus Christ, no there is not room in the home for it.

You have you really lost the ability to be able to control your own children when you have to get a corporal in to punish them.

kellaman123

When I was 11 I decided it would be a good idea to rob 20 quid from my mothers purse. When my dad found out he took off his belt and gave me such a leathering I've never been stolen anything since, the lesson was learned and it never happened again!

Grumpypants

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

No it isn't.

And I see you deliberately used an extreme scenario of people who are crap at parenting in general.

Giving the child a light slap on the clothed arse as a very last resort is obviously not comparable to the above.

If you are using fear, the threat of physical violence and humiliation to control your kids then you are failing as a parent.

How about being patient and talking to them for a minute instead.

Sir Humphrey Appleby

Grumpypants wrote: »

If you are using fear, the threat of physical violence and humiliation to control your kids then you are failing as a parent.

How about being patient and talking to them for a minute instead.

You clearly don't have kids.

Vincent Vega

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Who knew the Match of the Day theme tune could evoke such horror in a small child.

A challenger appears!

Tasden

Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »

You clearly don't have kids.

Ok, I don't know if that poster has kids or not, but from someone who is a parent- If you are using fear, the threat of physical violence and humiliation to control your kids then you are failing as a parent.How about being patient and talking to them for a minute instead.

I've never hit my child and don't intend to, obviously I can't guarantee I never will but I'd be taking a look at my own behavior, not my child's, if I ever feel the need to resort to slapping as a form of discipline. And I was hit as a child and I don't think it did me any harm really, but I don't think its right to hit a child.

Sir Humphrey Appleby

Tasden wrote: »

Ok, I don't know if that poster has kids or not, but from someone who is a parent- If you are using fear, the threat of physical violence and humiliation to control your kids then you are failing as a parent.How about being patient and talking to them for a minute instead.

I've never hit my child and don't intend to, obviously I can't guarantee I never will but I'd be taking a look at my own behavior, not my child's, if I ever feel the need to resort to slapping as a form of discipline. And I was hit as a child and I don't think it did me any harm really, but I don't think its right to hit a child.

Lucky indeed is the parent with the perfect child.:rolleyes:

Tasden

Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »

Lucky indeed is the parent with the perfect child.:rolleyes:

Where did I say any child is perfect? Nor is any parent. And I don't see how you came to that conclusion based on the fact that I don't hit her. Maybe its the fact I discipline her without hitting her that makes her well behaved.

Vincent Vega

Those brattish children you see around can offer a good window into who their parents are in private, and how they have parented.

All of our behaviour both towards and around a child is absorbed. They observe, they process, they learn, and often they replicate.

Just as if I was agitated by the behaviour of someone on the street or in a pub, I'd struggle to see the benefit in grabbing someone and hitting them, or even threatening to when there are always alternative ways to resolve an issue. There are also ways to prevent the issue occuring in the first place if you think hard enough.

Likewise, conditioning your child to fear physical punishment can stick in their mind, and have a lasting effect.

Failure to see these things is a failure in parenting.

Hitting is a cop out.

Tin Foil Hat

Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »

I would say it has a place.

In a Dickensian orphanage.