Max Keiser: Ireland's biggest problem is RTE

donegal__road

I just read this over on broadsheet,

“The biggest problem Ireland has is RTE, the state broadcaster. David McWilliams can appear in a 100 theatres across the country and light up the stage with brilliant analysis and provocative insights into the financial mess Ireland finds itself. He can write books, host festivals and appear on dozens of TV shows. And all that work gets overshadowed by an act of omission by RTE who refuse to report on the financial rape of Ireland by crooks that should be in jail.''


here is the article..

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2011/02/17/irelands-biggest-problem-is-rte-says-max-keiser/

I think that some of the drama and documentaries on RTE1 radio are excellent, plus I like John Creedon, Dave Fanning, John Kelly on Lyric fm etc. But I am inclined to agree with Max Keiser on this one.

kneemos

McWilliams is barmy as a brush even when he is comprehensible.
RTE only use him because they lack imagination.

Rabelais

Max Keiser is a fücking loola. Also, using the word rape to describe a financial crisis is, at best, crass.

Sleepy

Bull****. Irelands biggest problem is the Irish. The people we elect and the people who elect them.

Annasopra

Why are you putting up a 2 year old article?

Seanachai

Max can be a bit of a dose at times even though he does give some good insight into the global financial mess.

I stopped watching the RTE news regularly about two years ago and I can honestly say that I feel the better for it. I was watching it almost as a reflex as it was always on at Six O ' Clock without fail in the house growing up. I didn't feel any more informed watching it and the way it's presented is depressing ( as with a lot of RTE programming esp Fair City ). From time to time there are good programmes like John Kelly's 'Hell's kitchen to Hollywood'.

I read MTcranium's posts here on Boards.ie for the weather and I read the Irish Times in terms of mainstream news but only because it's the best of a bad bunch imo. I read Global Research online to get an alternative view on things like the Syrian situation.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Didn't McWilliams initially advise that the guarantee was good and now he makes money from saying it was bad.


RTE don't serve the best interests of Irish people.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Sleepy wrote: »

Bull****. Irelands biggest problem is the Irish. The people we elect and the people who elect them.

Yeah we need less Irish, maybe we should import 6 million Japanese to become a majority here.

I for one welcome our new Japanese overlords.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Yeah we need less Irish, maybe we should import 6 million Japanese to become a majority here.

I for one welcome our new Japanese overlords.

that would actually be a great idea

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

that would actually be a great idea

They're island folk too so would fit right in.

Their women are also quite daycent.

Freckin' love Wagamamas!

I see no negatives.

donegal__road

mango salsa wrote: »

Why are you putting up a 2 year old article?

I didn't read the date, I assumed it was a bit more recent than that.. oh well.

I posted it because I spotted the 'RTE national gem' thread, and by coincidence I happened to be reading the Max Keiser article at the same time.

Artful_Badger

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Didn't McWilliams initially advise that the guarantee was good and now he makes money from saying it was bad.


RTE don't serve the best interests of Irish people.

No I think he advised that some sort of a guarantee was needed but I dont ever recall him advocating the blanket guarantee that the government went with.

Max Keiser is a doom merchant anyway and the article is old "news".

Phill Ewinn

RTE is FOX news for de Oirishhhh. Hardly Max's fault. What hes saying is correct.

McWillams said we shouldn't spend a cent on the banks. Read his blog from 2008. Rape is an appropriate word for what FF/FG are doing for their mates in Anglo.

Amirani

Rabelais wrote: »

Max Keiser is a fücking loola. Also, using the word rape to describe a financial crisis is, at best, crass.

The word rape has more than one meaning.

Oxford English Dictionary wrote:

verb
[with object]
1 (typically of a man) force (another person) to have sexual intercourse with the offender against their will:
the woman was raped at knifepoint
[no object]:
he pleaded not guilty to burglary with intent to rape

2 spoil or destroy (a place):
timber men doubt the government’s ability to ensure the forests are not raped

KyussBishop

As one of our primary journalistic outlets, what actual good investigative journalism does RTE do? It's the job of journalists to shed light on corruption and fraud in our society, not just by repeating what somebody else has said, but by doing actual investigative journalism themselves - where is that in Ireland?

We have pretty much fúck all of that, and not nearly enough has been revealed about fraud and incompetence/corruption in the lead up to the crisis, and even today many of the most important events during the crisis are shrouded in secrecy, and whistleblowers tend to be either ignored or threatened (not threatened by RTE of course) with prosecution these days.

I can't imagine RTE ever trying to rock the boat on any real meaningful issue, by actually doing some proper investigative journalism that reveals fraud/crime, instead of just acting as a mouthpiece.

Chips Lovell

McDreamy is banned of RTE now? News to me.

Femme_Fatale

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

RTE is FOX news for de Oirishhhh. Hardly Max's fault. What hes saying is correct.

Lol. And then the right-wing loons say RTE is "Pravda" and bound by a "liberal agenda" yadda yadda.

Oh extremists, never change! :pac:

Max Keiser is a nut-job - exactly the kind of person people like the "Freeman" movement would love.

conorhal

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Yeah we need less Irish, maybe we should import 6 million Japanese to become a majority here.

I for one welcome our new Japanese overlords.

Eh...yeah...sure.. 'cause they've never had a monumental property crash or a 'lost decade' of struggling with a massive debt overhang and tiny growth figures...

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

conorhal wrote: »

Eh...yeah...sure.. 'cause they've never had a monumental property crash or a 'lost decade' of struggling with a massive debt overhang and tiny growth figures...

but even during that, they had an army of japanese women

so no one minded too much

who_ru

rte will never bite the hand that feeds it, and therefore is hopelessly compromised as a result.

donegal__road

In case nobody has seen this yet... Pat Kenny refuses to discuss the Trilateral Commission / Bilderberg group meeting which occurred in May 2010 in Dublin. He cuts the lady off and tells her that RTE has a complaints process etc.

Skip to 8:43

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV5DWFZfQbg

Phill Ewinn

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Lol. And then the right-wing loons say RTE is "Pravda" and bound by a "liberal agenda" yadda yadda.

Oh extremists, never change! :pac:

Max Keiser is a nut-job - exactly the kind of person people like the "Freeman" movement would love.

And both the liberals and the right wingers get told to believe by the same RTE.

Its FOX. The voice of the government. The voice for those setting the agenda.

Piliger

Ireland's biggest problems are the whingers who bitch and moan about everything and anything they can concoct. McWilliams being one of the pied pipers. He is a hypocrite and has changed his tune so many times no one can keep track.

clairefontaine

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

And both the liberals and the right wingers get told to believe by the same RTE.

Its FOX. The voice of the government. The voice for those setting the agenda.

Fox news is owned by a Saud... oh wait...

Max Keiser is an old school New Yorker who does not mince words.

RTE is terrible. I agree with him.

mikom

Piliger wrote: »

Ireland's biggest problems are the whingers who bitch and moan about everything

Yeah, i don't know why they don't all commit suicide..........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfjGSfuSQpA

Piliger

mikom wrote: »

Yeah, i don't know why they don't all commit suicide..........

Typical of them.

AllGunsBlazing

We've had seperation of church and state now we need separation of media and state. Until that happens rte will always be under the thumb of the government of the day.

Femme_Fatale

clairefontaine wrote: »

Fox news is owned by a Saud... oh wait...

Max Keiser is an old school New Yorker who does not mince words.

RTE is terrible. I agree with him.

Well he's not just saying it's terrible in fairness - he's saying it has a political agenda.

I wasn't aware of it covering up and not reporting on the gross misdeeds of politicians, developers and bankers.

cml387

The behaviour of the SAS in Gibraltar was uncovered in a documentary by Yorkshire Television.
Larry Goodman's shenaningans were first investigated by Granada TV
Paedophile priests were first revaled by UTV

Are you seeing a pattern?

Phill Ewinn

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Well he's not just saying it's terrible in fairness - he's saying it has a political agenda.

I wasn't aware of it covering up and not reporting on the gross misdeeds of politicians, developers and bankers.

Not only a political agenda.

They don't report these scandals they misreport them, on purpose like. The De Ohroigshhhinderpendent is similar. Won't tell you the truth 'till after you're screwed, then they really rub your nose in it.

@#Anglotapes. We all partied....... in Anglo.

KyussBishop

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Well he's not just saying it's terrible in fairness - he's saying it has a political agenda.

I wasn't aware of it covering up and not reporting on the gross misdeeds of politicians, developers and bankers.

The subtle thing here, is it's not what RTE reports (though the way it reports stuff is relevant), it's what it doesn't even bother investigating - a journalistic outlet can display a harmful agenda, by not going after certain types of stories, and by not acting adversarial to those in power (except on token issues that everyone else is reporting anyway - no actual investigative work done by RTE themselves).

Real journalism is muckraking and adversarialism, doing fresh investigative reporting/stories, and not holding back for fear of professional repercussions or budget cuts.

MRnotlob606

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Yeah we need less Irish, maybe we should import 6 million Japanese to become a majority here.

I for one welcome our new Japanese overlords.

我々は、メアリーのハーニーとセックスができます ?

Potatoeman

donegal__road wrote: »

In case nobody has seen this yet... Pat Kenny refuses to discuss the Trilateral Commission / Bilderberg group meeting which occurred in May 2010 in Dublin. He cuts the lady off and tells her that RTE has a complaints process etc.

Skip to 8:43

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV5DWFZfQbg

It was off topic. If you let everyone talk about whatever they want on those shows its a incoherant mess.

Edit: More of a incoherant mess.

swimming in a sea

I liked Max Keiser show before he got into the main stream, he seems to have let the Newsnight and Have I got news for you appearances go to his head. He is not continually ranting about how we should all buy bitcoin(maybe he is right) but he can expect ordinary people to buy into something so volatile.
A year ago he was all about gold and silver and even sold Keiser 1/4oz silver coins on his website but you had to pay for them with his supposed most hated thing Dollars the king of Fiat currencies.

Phill Ewinn

swimming in a sea wrote: »

I liked Max Keiser show before he got into the main stream, he seems to have let the Newsnight and Have I got news for you appearances go to his head. He is not continually ranting about how we should all buy bitcoin(maybe he is right) but he can expect ordinary people to buy into something so volatile.
A year ago he was all about gold and silver and even sold Keiser 1/4oz silver coins on his website but you had to pay for them with his supposed most hated thing Dollars the king of Fiat currencies.

Doesn't mean he supports the dollar. It just means hes transfering wealth away from the dollar. Silver in return for dollars.

US$ is headed for inflation city. Get off before the train derails.

Elmer Blooker

who_ru wrote: »

rte will never bite the hand that feeds it, and therefore is hopelessly compromised as a result.

Exactly.
I listen to them all - Morning Ireland, News at one, Drivetime and never once have I heard a Govt politician asked the simple question - what exactly will the "Local" property tax be spent on?
Yet I have heard SF politicians interviewed in quite an aggressive manner on their economic policies yet they are the ones in opposition?
* I'm not a SF supporter, never voted for them.

Femme_Fatale

I dunno. Plenty of media outlets have a blatant agenda - e.g. Fox News, Independent Newspapers, The Guardian... but RTE is pretty ambiguous; it's one of those organisations where you could find an agenda if you're looking for one.

It also has some good-quality investigative journalism in the form of Prime Time Investigates and one-off documentaries.

clairefontaine

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

I dunno. Plenty of media outlets have a blatant agenda - e.g. Fox News, Independent Newspapers, The Guardian... but RTE is pretty ambiguous; it's one of those organisations where you could find an agenda if you're looking for one.

It also has some good-quality investigative journalism in the form of Prime Time Investigates and one-off documentaries.

Problem is it's where you can't find anything. It's like diet news. It's reports behind the links are usually about four sentences. Everytime I click one, I think "That's it?"

dxhound2005

The Keiser report is coming up at 9.30pm on RT (formerly Russia Today). The blurb says "Keiser report is a no holds barred look at the shocking scandals behind the global financial headlines".

Criticising RTE is pretty ironic given the state of the media in Russia. I wonder how many RT journalists would risk treating Putin the way that politicians regularly get treated by RTE.

If people want to watch the stuff that Keiser and George Galloway spout out it's there on RT on Saorview as is Al Jazeera. We are better served in our media choices than the Russians are. Or the Iranians for whom Galloway also plies his trade on Press TV.

donegal__road

Potatoeman wrote: »

It was off topic. If you let everyone talk about whatever they want on those shows its a incoherant mess.

Edit: More of a incoherant mess.

ok, maybe so... but at the same time did the woman not have a legitimate question? Henry Kissinger, the Rockefellers, and the Rothschilds were in town and not a single word on the news about it.

Pat Kenny could have suggested that they would discuss the issue on another edition of Frontline sometime in the future.. but instead he suddenly cut her off saying 'Im not going there...'

Sir Osis of Liver.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Didn't McWilliams initially advise that the guarantee was good and now he makes money from saying it was bad.


RTE don't serve the best interests of Irish people.

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/books-arts/david-mcwilliams-the-night-lenihan-banged-on-my-front-door-26577796.html

Seaneh

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Didn't McWilliams initially advise that the guarantee was good and now he makes money from saying it was bad.

No, he didn't.

He advised limited guarantees to protect depositors, not blanket guarantees to give blank cheques to financial institutions and their speculators.

dxhound2005

McWilliams, Gurdgiev, Keiser and all the other media economists wouldn't have a clue how to run a country if they were give the chance.

McWilliams didn't have much to say to warn anyone of the impending doom in this piece from 2004.

http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2004/11/14/truth-about-the-celtic-tiger

Eight Ball

Sad when you agree with someone like Max but tbh he's on the money here. Public service broadcaster my arse.

Zico

LOL DFX There's a reason people like Kaiser work for Russia Today. They'll never be interested in creating a successful capitalist country tomorrow.

Aidric

Can't really hack Max's hyperventilating soapboxing. His recent bitcoin fanboy ranting just confirmed my suspicions. He was taken to the cleaners on newsnight recently by an economist.

Phill Ewinn

dxhound2005 wrote: »

McWilliams, Gurdgiev, Keiser and all the other media economists wouldn't have a clue how to run a country if they were give the chance.

McWilliams didn't have much to say to warn anyone of the impending doom in this piece from 2004.

http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2004/11/14/truth-about-the-celtic-tiger

Thats the point. I dont live in an economy. I live in a country. I don't want more money. I want a better society.

Having sh1theads, quaaaaars & shysters in power is the opposite of what we need. We need people with testicular fortitude. Not a collection of arsoles and minions.

dxhound2005

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

Thats the point. I dont live in an economy. I live in a country. I don't want more money. I want a better society.

Having sh1theads, quaaaaars & shysters in power is the opposite of what we need. We need people with testicular fortitude. Not a collection of arsoles and minions.

Who would you like to see in power?

mikom

FG defenders assemble

Aidric

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

I dont live in an economy. I live in a country

Hhmmm..

Femme_Fatale

Just saw someone saying on the other RTE thread that its editorial style is similar to that of The Irish Times.

So really, if you're biased in a particular way, RTE will be whatever you seek it to be.

As someone just left of centre, it's decidedly centrist to me.