Water Meters

Ronburgondy11

So our Water Meter is getting put in soon and I read online somewhere (can't find it now) that if the flouride level in your water is over the legal limit which most supposedly is, that you don't have to pay.

Is there any truth in this? Also how would you get your water checked?

Sir Humphrey Appleby

Ronburgondy11 wrote: »

Is there any truth in this? Also how would you get your water checked?

No.
And even more bad news, the tooth fairy doesn't exist.
Sorry OP

whiskeyman

Ronburgondy11 wrote: »

So our Water Meter is getting put in soon and I read online somewhere (can't find it now) that if the flouride level in your water is over the legal limit which most supposedly is, that you don't have to pay.

Is there any truth in this? Also how would you get your water checked?

Empty a few tubes of colgate down at the mains pipe before your water meter when the installer is on his piss break, then wait for the readings...

free water!

kneemos

Piss in your cistern.Save a fortune.

Annasopra

Ronburgondy11 wrote: »

So our Water Meter is getting put in soon and I read online somewhere (can't find it now) that if the flouride level in your water is over the legal limit which most supposedly is, that you don't have to pay.

Is there any truth in this? Also how would you get your water checked?

Most water is over the legal flouride limit? Really?

danniemcq

mango salsa wrote: »

Most water is over the legal flouride limit? Really?

yeah they have to increase the dosage now that people are copping on to the whole mind control thing/communist agenda thing. We are obviously becomming immune to the effects.

Obvious really

Ronburgondy11

mango salsa wrote: »

Most water is over the legal flouride limit? Really?

I read it on some website and a few were saying they'd had theirs checked and it was over the legal limit I haven't a clue about it all really :pac: I'll try find it again and post it on here.

Annasopra

Ronburgondy11 wrote: »

I read it on some website and a few were saying they'd had theirs checked and it was over the legal limit I haven't a clue about it all really :pac: I'll try find it again and post it on here.

Yeah I'd love to read it just for the laugh. I can't take anti flouride campaigns seriously.

Annasopra

DannieHasABrazilian wrote: »

yeah they have to increase the dosage now that people are copping on to the whole mind control thing/communist agenda thing. We are obviously becomming immune to the effects.

Obvious really

oh right yeah - have we all got cancer yet?

Ronburgondy11

Ah I see where I seen it now someone on my news feed commented on this Girl Against Fluoride page on Facebook




http://freemanireland.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=3214356%3ATopic%3A405829&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic[/URL]

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/households-with-unsafe-water-to-avoid-charges-29879363.html

https://www.facebook.com/TheGirlAgainstFluoride?fref=ts

danniemcq

Ronburgondy11 wrote: »

I read it on some website and a few were saying they'd had theirs checked and it was over the legal limit I haven't a clue about it all really :pac: I'll try find it again and post it on here.

Did it involve any of the following words

"Irish", "girl", "against", and or "fluoride"?

Ronburgondy11

DannieHasABrazilian wrote: »

Did it involve any of the following words

"Irish", "girl", "against", and or "fluoride"?

Yep, lol just posted the links above. Take it she's some mentaller? :pac:

Duggy747

I hear the fluoride turns your pee into a fine solution which the government uses as chemtrails to make the sheeple accept GM foods so that they'll keep the crooks in office and the bankers who bank banks while forcing them to think vaccinations are somehow good which in turn gives all the money that has ever existed, ever, to Big Pharma who only want to kill you until you're dead and then ultimately extract the fluoride from your body to put it back into the water supply to start the whole process again.

You can fight it by signing this petition that says "I don't accept the law of the land as I am a citizen of planet Earth and a child of Gaia!"

Wake up, sheeple!!

dpofloinn

Ronburgondy11 wrote: »

So our Water Meter is getting put in soon and I read online somewhere (can't find it now) that if the flouride level in your water is over the legal limit which most supposedly is, that you don't have to pay for it.

I also read on line that if you can drink your weight of it in less than an hour you dont have to pay for it either.Then again i could be making it up just to be sensationalist,but really id say im just hallucinating from all the fluoride ive consumed

Ronburgondy11

Duggy747 wrote: »

I hear the fluoride turns your pee into a fine solution which the government uses as chemtrails to make the sheeple accept GM foods so that they'll keep the crooks in office and the bankers who bank banks while forcing them to think vaccinations are somehow good which in turn gives all the money that has ever existed, ever, to Big Pharma who only want to kill you until you're dead and then ultimately extract the fluoride from your body to put it back into the water supply to start the whole process again.

You can fight it by signing this petition that says "I don't accept the law of the land as I am a citizen of planet Earth and a child of Gaia!"

Wake up, sheeple!!

I thought it just ruined your teeth :pac::pac::pac:

Banjo String

Apparently Hogan is in the early stages of setting up talks to establish 'Irish Air'

Free loaders running around inhaling all that oxygen.

Compulsory regulators to be worn by everyone breathing air in the country from 2016.

(I'm planning on installing a cross border breathe pipe though :cool:)

kneemos

Banjo String wrote: »

Apparently Hogan is in the early stages of setting up talks to establish 'Irish Air'

Free loaders running around inhaling all that oxygen.

Compulsory regulators to be worn by everyone breathing air in the country from 2016.

(I'm planning on installing a cross border breathe.
pipe though :cool:)

They could call it carbon tax.

danniemcq

Ronburgondy11 wrote: »

Yep, lol just posted the links above. Take it she's some mentaller? :pac:

nah thats harsh on mentallers

Kippure

So the water meter measures Flow of water.

I,d like to see calibration certificate for the meter used to calibate the water meter.

How do I know the water meter is calibrated correctly to measure flow?

Each meter in Ireland should have its own Calibration Certificate to show it has been calibrated Correctly to measure flow of water.

If I was buying a gas detection unit for a known gas ( C02 ) it would come with a calibration certificate.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

mango salsa wrote: »

Yeah I'd love to read it just for the laugh. I can't take anti flouride campaigns seriously.

I object to anything that's added to our public water system that doesn't improve its safety. Fluoride doesn't make our water safer so I'm against it.

What's to take seriously about someone objecting to something on principle?

Is it just the 'loony, lefty, crusty, protester' type that you laugh at or is it anyone who holds those views?

Annasopra

Ronburgondy11 wrote: »

Yep, lol just posted the links above. Take it she's some mentaller? :pac:

I wouldn't call her a mentaller but I wouldn't take her or her campaign seriously

anncoates

No issue with paying water rates on principle.

It's makey up bollocks like property tax and USC with which I have an issue.

Banjo String

OSI wrote: »

Now, if we had to collect, store, treat and then pipe air at regulated pressures across the country through thousands of miles of pipes that need a lot of maintenance, you might actually have something there.

Well seeing as tax intake and vat had paid for it up until now, (not to mention commercial rates) it will be a welcome reprieve to see a drop in the rates of them.

Kippure

Regarding Irish water.

How on earth did it spend 50 million last year on Consultants?

Looks like they don't have the skills to be who they are.

As some one who would be paying for water. I would like a detailed break down on who the consultants are and what there function is. As I will be paying there wage through water charges.

Duggy747

mango salsa wrote: »

I wouldn't call her a mentaller but I wouldn't take her or her campaign seriously

Spouts "science" and "hard facts" about fluoride, yet:

Interview

1. What’s the dream?

For fluoride to be banned from our water supply as soon as possible. After that my dream is to set up a natural healing centre called Anam Saor (meaning soul free in Irish). I want to team up with other dedicated health care practitioners using natural holistic treatments for all chronic health problems including autism, depression, schizophrenia and cancer.

Only a matter of time before their focus is shifted onto vaccinations, that's what I'm not looking forward to.

Mr.David

Kippure wrote: »

So the water meter measures Flow of water.

I,d like to see calibration certificate for the meter used to calibate the water meter.

How do I know the water meter is calibrated correctly to measure flow?

Each meter in Ireland should have its own Calibration Certificate to show it has been calibrated Correctly to measure flow of water.

If I was buying a gas detection unit for a known gas ( C02 ) it would come with a calibration certificate.

The meters will be purchased from some private company that makes meters. Do you really think that they will be asked to deliberately mis-calibrate them?!

There are European standards for all such devices in terms of accuracy, there are different 'classes' of accuracy for different applications.

Kippure

Mr.David wrote: »

The meters will be purchased from some private company that makes meters. Do you really think that they will be asked to deliberately mis-calibrate them?!

There are European standards for all such devices in terms of accuracy, there are different 'classes' of accuracy for different applications.

I have worked for such companies which produce mass instrument devices for flow, level, temperature and pressure Transmitters. ( The measurement Of ).

I cant put a figure on how many faulty transmitters I have had to send back as there calibrations were wrong.

Factory default settings are usually set.
Or the client asks for set ranges. Ie mbar in pressure
Every year they are recalibrated as they loose accuracy. I,d like to see an instrument technician come out and recalibrate my water meter so im not been over charged.

Please show me the ISO standard for water meters in Ireland.

A. The installation of.

B. The calibration of.

C. The recalibration of.

D. The maintance of.

mickydoomsux

Kippure wrote: »

I would like a detailed break down on who the consultants are and what there function is. As I will be paying there wage through water charges.

I reckon they might be names we've all seen before on various boards of directors etc.

Their function is to be on the board of things and be consultants for things.

AnonoBoy

People who take something they saw on their Facebook feed as cold hard fact and yet refuse to believe scientific studies conducted by people with years of education and research behind them are morons.

But I f*cking love reading their rants.

delw

Also if we don't use enough water they may up the price http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/price-may-rise-if-public-conserve-water-619277.html

"It is understood Irish Water may be given permission to hike the price of water if demand is lower than expected."

B.A._Baracus

Whats the deal with the water charges bill in jan 2015? I've heard various things.

Say my meter got installed today. Does that mean I will get billed for all the water I use from today up until Jan 2015?

or... (something else I heard) that in Jan 2015 people will just pay flat fee for water usage this year. But then the billing per litre (or whatever) starts there after.

delw

Gets better,could be a standing charge
http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/water-users-to-pay-standing-charge-even-if-they-dont-use-water-619772.html

Sir Arthur Daley

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Presumably the unmetered customers won't have to pay the meter rental fee?

Son Of A Vidic

Kippure wrote: »

How on earth did it spend 50 million last year on Consultants?

Because no matter who runs this country, sleveen cuntism will never die.

Lyaiera

What happens when one pipe serves multiple houses? I know someone in a really old terraced house and from the pipe in the street a single pipe enters one house and goes on to serve three or four more. Turning the water off in the first house will stop it in the rest. How do they deal with that?

Sir Arthur Daley

Lyaiera wrote: »

What happens when one pipe serves multiple houses? I know someone in a really old terraced house and from the pipe in the street a single pipe enters one house and goes on to serve three or four more. Turning the water off in the first house will stop it in the rest. How do they deal with that?

It wont affect the meter install as they will install meter on seperate mains at each house.

Capt'n Midnight

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/repair-bill-of-136-000-for-dublin-water-meter-leaks-1.1679723

Council workers have fixed almost 250 leaks, at a cost of €136,000, resulting from damage to pipes following the installation of the meters.

Private contractors, employed by Irish Water., have been installing meters at stopcocks outside homes in the Dublin City Council area since last October. A total of 12,677 meters were installed in the city up to the end of last month and the council was called to repair 247 leaks left behind once the contractors had left.

so that's another tenner per meter

Banjo String

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/repair-bill-of-136-000-for-dublin-water-meter-leaks-1.1679723so that's another tenner per meter

http://inishowenindo.ie/2013/11/outrage-inishowen-water-meter-installer-jobbridge-advert/

Jobbridge workers, no experience, private company gets for zero labour from Govt.

Council fix private contractor balls up (possibly made by workers with no experience)

Tax payer ultimately pays for price of, installation of, and price of damage due due to leaks left from incompetent water meter installers fcuk up.

Buy cheap buy twice springs to mind.

This Govt really should do the honorable thing and walk the fcuk out.

Stavros Murphy

I read on a website that if you dig down and hammer a cork into the end of the pipe coming into your house you will dramatically slash your water bills. I'm gonna try that as it sounds both simple and practical. Someone at work commented that it was the stupidest idea he'd ever heard but I reckon he's just jealous as he has a well - this won't work for people on wells, unless they have a really massive well-shaped cork. And a huge hammer.

Red Pepper

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/repair-bill-of-136-000-for-dublin-water-meter-leaks-1.1679723so that's another tenner per meter

I saw this earlier today. Un****ingbelievable.

We should rename Ireland to Wasteland.

Capt'n Midnight

Red Pepper wrote: »

I saw this earlier today. Un****ingbelievable.

We should rename Ireland to Wasteland.

With all the fun and games I still prefer

Faucets Circus

Monkeybonkers

We have our own well so fúck you O Brien and every other cúnt that's making money out of this.

The country needs some revenue from water to pay for maintenance and upkeep of the system. My issue is with the scavenging bástards that are getting rich from the whole set-up and installation process.

Stavros Murphy

Monkeybonkers wrote: »

We have our own well so fúck you O Brien and every other cúnt that's making money out of this.

The country needs some revenue from water to pay for maintenance and upkeep of the system. My issue is with the scavenging bástards that are getting rich from the whole set-up and installation process.

Happily, not two fcuks will be given. If it's raining dough, and you have the only bucket, who cares if the odd person or two has an umbrella.

Sir Arthur Daley

Stavros Murphy wrote: »

I read on a website that if you dig down and hammer a cork into the end of the pipe coming into your house you will dramatically slash your water bills.

A easier option would be just to turn off your mains lever valve.

Stavros Murphy

WikiHow wrote: »

A easier option would be just to turn off your mains lever valve.

I like the cork idea. Cork is natural and will not contaminate the water. I'm betting they don't get lever valves from the bark of trees. So now.

Sir Arthur Daley

Stavros Murphy wrote: »

I like the cork idea. Cork is natural and will not contaminate the water. I'm betting they don't get lever valves from the bark of trees. So now.

I say if someone is that eco minded mains water would not fit into their criteria for their lifestyle.

Stavros Murphy

WikiHow wrote: »

I say if someone is that eco minded mains water would not fit into their criteria for their lifestyle.

I'd say Stavros is probably not being entirely serious. Pretty much ever.

Tigger

Stavros Murphy wrote: »

I'd say Stavros is probably not being entirely serious. Pretty much ever.

sock puppet?

Stavros Murphy

Tigger wrote: »

sock puppet?

Pretty much.

Irish Steve

Well, right now, I am totally p***ed of with the cnuts that are installing the meters, and with IW for wasting god knows how many millions on producing dual language booklets that were a complete waste of time and money.

We've had two booklets through the door, the second one telling us that "it's all about to happen, and this is how we'll do it".

That would be wonderful if Caffrey's were working off the same rule book, but they are not.

According to the booklet, it goes like this,

They will knock at the door to say they are starting work.

They will advise the customer when they are turning the water off.

They will advise the customer when the water is back on

They will check that everything is working ok.

They will facilitate access to the property.

So, there are 6 points above, and Caffreys scored a big fat ZERO.

No one came near us all day, and if we want to get out of our house by car, we will have to move 3 dirty messy plastic fences that are surrounding a plastic plate that's covering the top of the hole that has been cut in the concrete to allow them to fit the new unit, and is totally blocking the way in and out for vehicles.

So right now, if someone from Irish Water comes near me, I am very likely to tell them to get the Fcuk off my property, and take their damn joke of a booklet with them, as it's clear that the entire exercise is yet another semi state fcuk up that will only end up costing people like me a ****load of money for a lousy product that is very likely to be substandard.

Clearly the gombeens at the top of the pile have learnt NOTHING about how to deal with the public, and we're being given yet more sh1t and black smoke that is all being dressed up as a new organisation that is supposed to be in our interest.

Yet another money grabbing inefficient badly managed semi state that can't organise a p1ss up in a brewery.

Yeah, I'm fecking blazing right now.