Tri an Mhi 70.3 - Prize Money Boost

Fazz

I missed this on TI at the time but feel it deserves a thread on the back of a great race last year.
I've just become aware that Tri an Mhi are offering big prize money for 2014.

http://www.trianmhi.com/index.php/cxiii-2014


I raced this half ironman last year and had a great experience.
It had a great reputation already and the course is challenging and rewarding.
Well located, good timing for most and a hard day of racing on offer.


In my opinion there were only 2 negatives from last years race as follows:

- timing/temp issues during mid May (communication a bit on this too)

- No prize money other than sponsors vouchers. I mentioned this in a tweet before xmas also as for a NC race felt it was an issue that needed addressing.
Turns out same day it had been addressed but I missed the pr and TI post on it.


Now for 2014 the race has been put back a few weeks to June 7th so should allow warmer temps and a full swim god willing.

However for me the far more impressive change is the intro of what I would class as great prize money.

So for me, both negatives completely addressed and should make for a great domestic 70.3 race early season.

For a Non NS and Non NC race this is setting the bar high and looks like Tri an Mhi want to have a reputable race with competitive and full fields too.


I know the top 3 podium finishers from last year have this race firmly in their sites and many more no doubt.
Bambaata is also due in for our first head to head battle at last too hopefully.


So just wanted to pay respect for Tri an Mhi and addressing improvements and hopefully setting up a superb early season race.


- below copied from their site so forgive formatting paste errors.
- not sure if CR prize is based on 2013 shortened swim course or times from 2012 and before full swim.




Offering €5,600 Prize Money

Male
Female
1st
€500 + Cup + 2015 Entry
€500 + Cup + 2015 Entry

2nd
€400
€400

3rd
€300
€300

4th
€200
€200

5th
€100
€100

Course Record Bonus
€100
€100

tunney

Isn't this an AG race?

dited

tunney wrote: »

Isn't this an AG race?

They're also giving 50 to 1st, 40 to 2nd and 30 to 3rd in all AG categories.

sconhome

Ah here we go, the commercialisation of triathlon.

Look what that did for Christmas :rolleyes:

trinewbie

Fazz wrote: »

I missed this on TI at the time but feel it deserves a thread on the back of a great race last year.
I've just become aware that Tri an Mhi are offering big prize money for 2014.

http://www.trianmhi.com/index.php/cxiii-2014


I raced this half ironman last year and had a great experience.
It had a great reputation already and the course is challenging and rewarding.
Well located, good timing for most and a hard day of racing on offer.


In my opinion there were only 2 negatives from last years race as follows:

- timing/temp issues during mid May (communication a bit on this too)

- No prize money other than sponsors vouchers. I mentioned this in a tweet before xmas also as for a NC race felt it was an issue that needed addressing.
Turns out same day it had been addressed but I missed the pr and TI post on it.


Now for 2014 the race has been put back a few weeks to June 7th so should allow warmer temps and a full swim god willing.

However for me the far more impressive change is the intro of what I would class as great prize money.

So for me, both negatives completely addressed and should make for a great domestic 70.3 race early season.

For a Non NS and Non NC race this is setting the bar high and looks like Tri an Mhi want to have a reputable race with competitive and full fields too.


I know the top 3 podium finishers from last year have this race firmly in their sites and many more no doubt.
Bambaata is also due in for our first head to head battle at last too hopefully.


So just wanted to pay respect for Tri an Mhi and addressing improvements and hopefully setting up a superb early season race.


- below copied from their site so forgive formatting paste errors.
- not sure if CR prize is based on 2013 shortened swim course or times from 2012 and before full swim.




Offering €5,600 Prize Money

Male
Female
1st
€500 + Cup + 2015 Entry
€500 + Cup + 2015 Entry

2nd
€400
€400

3rd
€300
€300

4th
€200
€200

5th
€100
€100

Course Record Bonus
€100
€100

+1

Fair play to them for addressing the shortfalls of last years race, which itself was a very well run event, despite water temperature issues and shortened swim.

Its a class course , hopefully the weather gods will give organisers a break this year.

Bambaata

Looking forward to the head to head. Ive hit every session since the challenge was set (all 3 of them!) so long may it continue and if i do nail them i should be ok with 4 odd months to put up some sort of fight

Anyone know when it is due to open for entries. I was looking yesterday but couldn't find anything.

Peterx

AKW wrote: »

Ah here we go, the commercialisation of triathlon.

Look what that did for Christmas :rolleyes:

I have to presume someone with a username of a shop is joking when giving out about either commercialism or Christmas?

peter kern

thanks for posting fazz Its a great honest course

did they increase the entrance fee a lot ? if yes than maybe you have a point, if not than it would show actually more sharing of the profit pie so I would suggest you call it communism ;-)

AKW wrote: »

Ah here we go, the commercialisation of triathlon.

Look what that did for Christmas :rolleyes:

Huff n Puff

Fair play to the race organisers. Brave move. Pity it's not a NS race after making two big changes (date + prize money). TI should be rewarding this type of move from the organiser next year.

Might try and squeeze this race in now.

El Director

Tri -Limits Half and the National Sprint Champs on the same weekend will be wide open now

tunney

Huff n Puff wrote: »

Fair play to the race organisers. Brave move. Pity it's not a NS race after making two big changes (date + prize money). TI should be rewarding this type of move from the organiser next year.

Might try and squeeze this race in now.

I'd comment on all this but not sure I want to deal with the vitrol I received last time I dared to comment on this race.

zico10

Not that I expect to be taking home any prize money, but I've just registered for this. It's possible it will be my first tri after Connemarathon. So in at the deep end.

rodneyr1981

zico10 wrote: »

Not that I expect to be taking home any prize money, but I've just registered for this. It's possible it will be my first tri after Connemarathon. So in at the deep end.

Does this race sell out early? Cheers

zico10

rodneyr1981 wrote: »

Does this race sell out early? Cheers

It's been open a while now. I couldn't tell you if it will sell out, but I don't think it did last year.

trailrunner

Stupid question . What's the time limit on the swim .??

peter kern

had a look at this y day only 211 entries for what i think is a fantstic race given the price money and low entrance fee
at the top end looks like there is a lot of patient guys waiting last second or have hidden entries ;-)

Fazz

peter kern wrote: »

had a look at this y day only 211 entries for what i think is a fantstic race given the price money and low entrance fee
at the top end looks like there is a lot of patient guys waiting last second or have hidden entries ;-)

It's the latter Peter..

Shane scully may be out due to recent ras injuries, but the two top steps from last year are both returning I believe and are in great shape so it will be competitive.
Course record highly likely to be taken too I'd imagine.

No doubt a few others hidden as well like you say so it will be a good benchmarker.

Full swim likely too as 14 degrees confirmed last week so fingers crossed and all that.

Aren't you tempted yourself...???

sconhome

trailrunner wrote: »

Stupid question . What's the time limit on the swim .??

Distance of swim can depend on the water temperature but there are time limits assuming full distance swim goes ahead:

Maximum stay in water

Age groupers
300m 20 min.
750m 30 min.
1500m 1h 10 min.
3000m 1 h 40 min.
4000m 2 h 15 min.

peter kern

dogs that bark dont bite ;-)

Huff n Puff

I am out of this one anyway. Currently enduring disaster season number 2. Not happy to be missing it as I would love to support it. Gonna try and get back for Kilkee but will be taking a beating there.

It makes me sad seeing a club that is trying its best to put on a good race not attracting huge numbers (still a decent turn-out though), when the likes of Lough Cutra get a big crowd. Just shows you what NS does for a race.

Best of luck Ian and the rest of ye taking part.

EC1000

Did Tri an Mhi apply for NS status this year? (Genuine question. I'd be extremely surprised/disappointed if they had applied and not received it based on the quality of the race they have put on in recent years).

peter kern

did you not say the same last year and then blitzed kilkee ? so it looks like all is going well for your kilkee race ;-) i hope you get well soon.

And I agree i hope they get many last minute entries for a race that has been well run for the last 3 years.
Having been on the course the surface of the bike course has been improved at some parts,for those who see this as a deal breaker for a race and water is a good bit warmer than last year, for the people that worry aobut the water temperature.

Huff n Puff wrote: »

I am out of this one anyway. Currently enduring disaster season number 2. Not happy to be missing it as I would love to support it. Gonna try and get back for Kilkee but will be taking a beating there.

It makes me sad seeing a club that is trying its best to put on a good race not attracting huge numbers (still a decent turn-out though), when the likes of Lough Cutra get a big crowd. Just shows you what NS does for a race.

Best of luck Ian and the rest of ye taking part.

Huff n Puff

peter kern wrote: »

did you not say the same last year and then blitzed kilkee ? so it looks like all is going well for your kilkee race ;-) i hope you get well soon. .

Ha, I wouldn't call 5th place and finishing a mile behind the top 2 blitzing Kilkee!! My time was quite slow when you consider it was a short swim. two years ago is when I had a good (injury free) one there. I shouldn't have raced last year as it put me out for the rest of the season - hate missing that race though. I will be decent again this year but I am looking for more than just decent at races. I have done one competitive triathlon in almost 2 years so can't expect much in what will be my first race back! If I can peak for August I will be happy.

Back on topic - support this race!

mossym

Huff n Puff wrote: »

It makes me sad seeing a club that is trying its best to put on a good race not attracting huge numbers (still a decent turn-out though), when the likes of Lough Cutra get a big crowd. Just shows you what NS does for a race.

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only 100 did the half at cutra though, this has double that? always going to be a smaller pool when you go up in distance, until you hit the big one and put an IM brand on it

Mr Tango

Posted about this a while ago. Why have all the half im distance races close together. 3 in 3 weeks if u county athy double. Then in august same again. If the race is only half - ie no other distances) u should put it on away from other races. I am doing 2 half distance this yr and would have done another if better spread out. Nothing at the end of sep from memory which would be perfect timing and prob pick up a few doing oly dist and wanting to try a bit longer

Roadtoad

Has anyone any good lake temperature info? How much warmer than last year?
Long term forecast looks fine for next Sat.

joey100

Didn't want to start a whole new thread for this but looking for some advice from people who have done this course and distance before. I've managed to win an entry for this, had never planned to do the race and all my training has been for Olympic distance. In saying that I'd be confident I can get around the course but just wondering if there is anything to look out for on the course? Can see one big climb on each lap of the bike but just wondering if there is anything else on it or the run course.

Just curious about nutrition as well, I know it's different for everyone but what number of gels or other stuff would people use during this? Nutrition wouldn't be my strong point and I usually take 1, if any gels during an Olympic distance, don't think I'd get away with that over this distance though.

Thanks for the help.

Fazz

joey100 wrote: »

Didn't want to start a whole new thread for this but looking for some advice from people who have done this course and distance before. I've managed to win an entry for this, had never planned to do the race and all my training has been for Olympic distance. In saying that I'd be confident I can get around the course but just wondering if there is anything to look out for on the course? Can see one big climb on each lap of the bike but just wondering if there is anything else on it or the run course.

Just curious about nutrition as well, I know it's different for everyone but what number of gels or other stuff would people use during this? Nutrition wouldn't be my strong point and I usually take 1, if any gels during an Olympic distance, don't think I'd get away with that over this distance though.

Thanks for the help.

The half distance isn't all that different imo, take a bit more nutrition on bike and that's about it.
I do think run strength is noticeable though as on tired legs a half marathon is never going to be easy.

I take 1 x powerbar in the first 10km out of T1, then sip on water/gel combo throughout race. Maybe a total of 4 x gels on bike max diluted.
And about 700mls of hi 5 or equivalent also.
If it's hot I may refill with another bottle of hi 5.

On run, very much dependent on what you can stomach and need.
I've tried taking a gel every 20-30mins, and also ran just taking 1 x gel also.
Hard to tell a difference really, I personally more feel it down to leg strength and fitness as opposed to nutrition bonking.

Regarding the course, yes the bike is mainly rolling with the 1 x short climb each lap. Some longer drags in the first third of each lap, and mainly flat in the last third but susceptible to winds if there are any.

Run course is hard. flat ish the first 3 or so km, then loop done twice which is not easy. slow drag up and down and up each lap, and for me the toughest part then is the last 4km or so as seems to be on an incline for most of the way and legs will feel it.

Can't wait! :pac::pac::pac:

zico10

joey100 wrote: »

Didn't want to start a whole new thread for this but looking for some advice from people who have done this course and distance before. I've managed to win an entry for this, had never planned to do the race and all my training has been for Olympic distance. In saying that I'd be confident I can get around the course but just wondering if there is anything to look out for on the course? Can see one big climb on each lap of the bike but just wondering if there is anything else on it or the run course.

Just curious about nutrition as well, I know it's different for everyone but what number of gels or other stuff would people use during this? Nutrition wouldn't be my strong point and I usually take 1, if any gels during an Olympic distance, don't think I'd get away with that over this distance though.

Thanks for the help.

I haven't raced here before, but I recced the bike course on Saturday. The left turn before that climb is quiet sharp and you approach it at speed. I imagine marshals will be in place to warn people to slow down on Saturday, but it'd be important to be in the right gear coming round the turn. I'm not going to try getting up that hill in my big ring, I'd still be comfortable for the first few hundred metres but I don't think I'd lose too much in the way of power if I was to drop down to the small ring coming down the hill before that left turn. Will know exactly what to do after the first lap I guess.

You'd want more than one gel for a half iron distance race. 4.5+ hours is a long time to be on the go, it'd be possible to get through the bike, but if you haven't been fuelling it'll hit you on the run. Even the mighty Lance Armstrong struggled with nutrition on his first few Ironman 70.3. I'll be having jellies, a banana, and a sports drink before the start, 6 gels taped to my bike, 2/3 more gels to take out on the run. I think you should take calories on board whether you feel like it or not. Bonking is a far worse feeling than having ingested too many gels and not being able to stomach them.

peter kern

I was more thinking if i need a 28 for the hill .....

couerdelion

You should be ok Peter if you have a compact chainset

Bambaata

Looking forward to this now. Seems the weather will be ok, some showers but nothing major. Some showers might do no harm too as temperature is supposed to be around 19C. I am just finalising my approach to the race but who knows what that might translate to! Should go well though. I might have to revise that time in the rollcall thread though :P

peter kern

couerdelion wrote: »

You should be ok Peter if you have a compact chainset

I will use the road bike since this is a very hilly course

littlemsfickle

zico10 wrote: »

Bonking is a far worse feeling than having ingested too many gels and not being able to stomach them.

I dunno, the feeling of having too much in your stomach is pretty awful too - especially sugary stuff.

zico10

littlemsfickle wrote: »

zico10 wrote: »

Bonking is a far worse feeling than having ingested too many gels and not being able to stomach them.

I dunno, the feeling of having too much in your stomach is pretty awful too - especially sugary stuff.

We'll have to agree to disagree so.

Re. overdosing on sugary stuff;
Is the Squeezy Sports Nutrition provided on the run course gels?

Bambaata

Not long to go now! Looking forward to this, weather looks ok. Rain forecast but not particularly cold. Gilet and armwarmers should to the trick.

Hows everyone set? Id some flat feeling legs after last Saturdays race but a massage today should hopefully solve that. Felling much better than i did Tuesday anyway.

EC1000

Will be refereeing again tomorrow - looking forward to seeing this one unfold!

MojoMaker

Best of luck anyone doing it, especially anyone stepping up to middle distance for the first time. Lough Lene was beautiful a few weeks ago....brrrrrr.

interested

Good luck to all racing and organising tomorrow - hope there's sun and warmth tomorrow. What is it about Athy and sunshine and heat each year on the same weekend and then ... anyhow .. best of luck.

peter kern

thanks EC1000 for giving up your time !!!

havent done an half for 4 years.

Had a really badly inflated intestines on Wed, and lost another kg, but I am very hopeful to come around (at least for swim and bike) Had to run at work for 2k last night and it was crucinating.but on the bike much less painful than a fractured rip and since this is bearable i am quite positvie, and its getting better quite rapidly.
nutrition might be a problem for the run (but I do hope it will be fine and its out of my control anyway and i know how far i can go and when i need to stop)
Good thing is I havnt really lost energy and i was feeling very good wed morning and havent run that easily on a treadmil at 20kmh for a long time.
looking forward to race.

mossym

should be a cracker of a race, anyone have a link for the live tracking and finish line web cam?

sconhome

mossym wrote: »

should be a cracker of a race, anyone have a link for the live tracking and finish line web cam?

Updater

pgibbo

AKW wrote: »

Updater

They're about as useful as t1ts on a bull. They're updates are crap at races

EC1000

pgibbo wrote: »

They're about as useful as t1ts on a bull. They're updates are crap at races

I seem to recall base 2 race were tweeting updates last year being the main sponsor......

sconhome

EC1000 wrote: »

I seem to recall base 2 race were tweeting updates last year being the main sponsor......

I think I did more updating last year and I was doing the thing!

TI usually good if Scotty is at the events.

Fazz

So here's the current form guide as I see it-

- trinewbie, won here last year, serious current training fitness but serious bout of pre race injury-itis too (calf)

- Bambaata, good current fitness off sprint win last week, leaving it late to freshen legs, first battle with myself at last!

- Zico, trying to sneak under the radar but has been putting in the wrench time and we all know what he can run so may come down to a chase

- myself, 3rd here last year, claims not to be in same fitness,

- Ruaidhri Geraghty, good current form off win at Lough Cutra half,

- Paul Carroll, 6th last year, improving swim, good current form but hasn't nailed the half yet.

- Martin Grealish, good current form off win at Lough Cutra sprint+ , bound to be competitive

- Peter Kern, the coach out to show how it's done?, bound to be near front of swim, has dropped weight this week for the "hilly" bike course, is he really mad enough to do this on a road bike?


Prob a few more I'm unaware of but expect the above to be involved in any podium battles....

Should be a cracker.

pgibbo

Best of luck all. Should be a cracking race.

mossym

aye, best of luck all, have a good race.

sconhome

Fazz wrote: »

- myself, 3rd here last year, claims not to be in same fitness,

I love the implied sandbagging in this

Best of luck to everyone taking part, sounds like it could be race of the year with that form list all hammering it out on the run after a tough, hard, bike.

trinewbie

Fazz wrote: »

So here's the current form guide as I see it-


- myself, 3rd here last year, claims not to be in same fitness,

.

Agreed.

mossym

AKW wrote: »

I love the implied sandbagging in this

how is fazz sandbagging? he says he's not in the same fitness...


am i the only one that read that as he's better this year..:)