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Aurora Prospects 2014

  • 07-01-2014 10:44pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭


    An X class flare and CME from a large earth-facing sunspot (1944) today.

    From Accuweather Astronomy's facebook :
    The first CME model run has come out and it shows a significant hit to Earth. Prediction model wind speeds exceed 900 km/s expected early on January 9th. If this is correct, we could be looking at a widespread aurora outbreak. A severe geomagnetic storm. We are awaiting a second answer from WSA's model to compare. Keep checking back with us for the potential! Things are getting exciting here at AWA!

    Spaceweather.com about the sunspot and then the flare/CME.
    One of the biggest sunspots in years is crossing the center of the solar disk, putting Earth in the way of potential eruptions. Rocky Raybell photographed the active region named "AR1944" yesterday from his backyard in Keller, Washington:

    trees_strip.jpg

    The sprawling sunspot contains dozens of dark cores, the largest big enough to swallow Earth three times over. This makes it an easy target for amateur solar telescopes -- or even regular cameras. Raybell used an SX40 digital camera on a tripod whole holding a Baader solar filer over the lens to capture his image.

    Although AR1944 has been mostly quiet for days, flares are in the offing. The sunspot has an unstable 'beta-gamma-delta' magnetic field that could erupt at any time. NOAA forecasters estimate a 75% chance of M-class flares and a 30% chance of X-flares on Jan. 7th.

    ....

    X-FLARE: Giant sunspot AR1944 erupted on Jan 7th at approximately 1832 UT, producing a powerful X1-class solar flare. First-look coronagraph images from the STEREO-Ahead spacecraft appear to show a coronal mass ejection (CME) emerging from the blast site. If so, the CME is almost certainly heading for Earth. Stay tuned for updates as more data arrive from the NASA-ESA Heliophysics Fleet.

    Fingers crossed for a low latitude aurora.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭Conmaicne Mara


    Am guessing we would have to look North if it were to happen? Am in the unfortunate position of having a fairly large hill to my North.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Early NOAA prediction is for a G2, so our chances of seeing anything may not be great, that could change as more information comes in. The sunspot is still active and facing earth so another large flare/CME is possible too (50% chance of an X class flare in the next 24 hours).
    2014-01-07 22:11 UTC CME Impacts Expected January 9

    SWPC Forecasters are anticipating G2 (Moderate) Geomagnetic Storm conditions to occur on January 9, followed by G1 (Minor) levels January 10. The source of this pulse is an Earth-directed CME launched from centrally-located Region 1944 at 1832 UTC (1:32 p.m. EST) today January 7. This forecast is pending the acquisition of some data as yet unavailable, and may be updated. In addition, the current S1 (Minor) Solar Radiation Storm is likely to linger for another 24 hours. At the Sun, Region 1944 remains well-placed and energetic. Watch here for more as conditions warrant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭John.Icy


    Hallelujah, something to watch. Have been watching sunspots and such since 2008 and 1944 is easily the biggest sunspot I've seen, just huge.

    I'd imagine a G2 is a bit weak of a prediction surely, with a 900km/s predicted speed??? I guess it's a fickle event and we'll have t owait and see.

    Pity I'm in Dublin now and no longer in the countryside, for that reason expect a huge aurora that can't be seen with the bright lights of Dublin city. :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    NOAA now say they expect more of a partial rather than direct CME impact, but up to G3 is possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    John.Icy wrote: »
    Hallelujah, something to watch. Have been watching sunspots and such since 2008 and 1944 is easily the biggest sunspot I've seen, just huge.

    I'd imagine a G2 is a bit weak of a prediction surely, with a 900km/s predicted speed??? I guess it's a fickle event and we'll have t owait and see.

    Pity I'm in Dublin now and no longer in the countryside, for that reason expect a huge aurora that can't be seen with the bright lights of Dublin city. :D:D


    Not everywhere in Dublin is horrible ... i got this back in October 2012 just up at St.Margarets .



    ALot of timing is gonna have to go well for us for us in Europe as best cloud free chances seem to be thursday evening.

    Ill be on the bz an kp charts like a hawk for the next 24hrs :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    NOAA sounding more confident about G3 in the latest update.
    2014-01-08 12:30 UTC G3 (Strong) Geomagnetic Storming Expected

    SWPC Forecasters are anticipating G3 (Strong) Geomagnetic Storm conditions to occur on January 9 and 10. The source of this disturbance is a fairly fast Earth-directed coronal mass ejection (CME) launched from centrally-located Region 1944 at 1832 UTC (1:32 p.m. EST) on January 7. Full evaluation and modeling of this event has refined the forecast and indicates a fairly direct interaction with Earth, with the WSA-Enlil model putting arrival mid-morning UTC on January 9 (very early morning EST). In addition, the S2 (Moderate) Solar Radiation Storm associated with this event is currently near, but below, the S3 (Strong) threshold, with values leveling off at this time. At the Sun, Region 1944 remains well-placed and energetic. Updates here as this event progresses.
    Space Weather Message Code: WATA50
    Serial Number: 48
    Issue Time: 2014 Jan 08 1214 UTC

    WATCH: Geomagnetic Storm Category G3 Predicted
    Highest Storm Level Predicted by Day:
    Jan 08: None (Below G1) Jan 09: G3 (Strong) Jan 10: G3 (Strong)
    THIS SUPERSEDES ANY/ALL PRIOR WATCHES IN EFFECT
    Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 50 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
    Induced Currents - Power system voltage irregularities possible, false alarms may be triggered on some protection devices.
    Spacecraft - Systems may experience surface charging; increased drag on low Earth-orbit satellites and orientation problems may occur.
    Navigation - Intermittent satellite navigation (GPS) problems, including loss-of-lock and increased range error may occur.
    Radio - HF (high frequency) radio may be intermittent.
    Aurora - Aurora may be seen as low as Pennsylvania to Iowa to Oregon.

    Need to keep an eye out to see if another large flare/cme happens today too, as that could really increase our chances of a proper lightshow. Fingers crossed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭Mince Pie


    Sorry to be a pain but lurker here and not up on the lingo but its a lifelong ambition to see the Aurora. Went to Aberdeen a few years ago in Feb in hope of seeing it.
    So what would be the chances of a sighting in Meath area on Thursday?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Mince Pie wrote: »
    Sorry to be a pain but lurker here and not up on the lingo but its a lifelong ambition to see the Aurora. Went to Aberdeen a few years ago in Feb in hope of seeing it.
    So what would be the chances of a sighting in Meath area on Thursday?

    At the moment it looks like it would be a bit borderline for Ireland, obviously the further north you are the better, but we won't really know for sure until it starts arriving what the chances of seeing anything here will be, we might be lucky, but even then we need the weather to play ball too.

    If we get another large CME following quickly in the wake of this one then our chances go up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    Mince Pie wrote: »
    Sorry to be a pain but lurker here and not up on the lingo but its a lifelong ambition to see the Aurora. Went to Aberdeen a few years ago in Feb in hope of seeing it.
    So what would be the chances of a sighting in Meath area on Thursday?

    They have been seen from Kerry in the passed few good storms when clouds were completely clear , so yes , meath is a decent spot. Still need to be away from lights and preferably up a hill.

    Keep an eye on this page here , http://www.spaceweatherlive.com/

    two main things to watch for is the KP level ( 5+ is good for anything below ulster ) and BZ direction .. ( 10 + south is good for anything below ulster ) .



    A few notes .

    1. If all goes well , you still may not see much with the naked eye this far south. When i saw them from here back in OCt 2012 i knew what to look for after my sweden trip . On the horizon i saw a quite faint curtain of pale white . I knew straight away that was them .

    2. SLR cameras on long exposures bring out the colours.

    My settings would be usually.

    F3.5 ( or faster )
    ISO 3200
    25 seconds .

    So yeah , just keep an eye out for pale white curtains.

    If your up in like donegal somewhere youll see the green with the naked eye.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭Mince Pie


    Thanks so much for being gentle with me. Have a friend in Donegal but alas I also have to work.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Daniel O Donnel


    Hi, going out for a look tonight as it seems to be the best chance of clear skies this week. Might go to Glenvar or Horn head. Fingers crossed. _


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    CME seems to be reaching the ACE satellite now.

    Mag_swe_2h.gif

    Edit : Or maybe not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,194 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    Am guessing we would have to look North if it were to happen? Am in the unfortunate position of having a fairly large hill to my North.
    not necessarily, I saw the Aurora looking east and west as well as north during the fantastic displays in October and November 2003.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭FrDougalMcguire


    Any sightings anyone???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Solar Radiation up to S3 now.
    Space Weather Message Code: ALTPX3
    Serial Number: 27
    Issue Time: 2014 Jan 08 2334 UTC

    ALERT: Proton Event 10MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
    Begin Time: 2014 Jan 08 2320 UTC
    NOAA Scale: S3 - Strong

    Aurora_Map_N.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,511 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    Any joy for anyone ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Either the CME is slower than expected or it didn't pack much of a punch.

    Also, no sign of any new big flares, in fact solar activity has dropped way down today.

    -_-


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 960 ✭✭✭guttenberg


    So are we unlikely to see anything out tonight?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    guttenberg wrote: »
    So are we unlikely to see anything out tonight?

    We'll find out later.
    2014-01-09 12:36 UTC Awaiting CME Arrival

    The ongoing Solar Radiation Storm peaked briefly just above the S3 (Strong) threshold but is now in decay and currently at S2 (Moderate) levels. Enhancement back across the S3 level is possible with the anticipated coronal mass ejection (CME) arrival. The CME, originally expected to arrive around 0800 UTC (3:00 a.m. EST) today, January 9, is now slightly overdue. However, pre-arrival signatures from EPAM data on the ACE spacecraft still show this transient en route. G3 (Strong) Geomagnetic Storm activity is still expected on January 9 and 10. Updates here as this event unfolds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,732 ✭✭✭weisses


    Thanks for this thread Maq .... find it very interesting but would possibly miss these events if it wasn't for someone highlighting it here :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,511 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/10560789/Northern-Lights-sightings-possible-over-Britain.html

    ^^ Scientists have informed the telegraph that southern wales could be in for a sight to remember tonight - should be good for all the rest of us so as well in that case!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭RebelButtMunch


    Saying on tv that it is due to arrive from now until 4am


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,412 ✭✭✭lolie


    Looks like we have impact but seems to be a lot weaker than expected:(
    Still early yet so may pick up later.
    Mag_swe_24h.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭blackbird99


    bbc2 now last night of stargazing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Very late, but the CME arrival will happen soon. Could be weaker than expected though due to it moving more slowly.
    Space Weather Message Code: WARSUD
    Serial Number: 144
    Issue Time: 2014 Jan 09 1951 UTC

    WARNING: Geomagnetic Sudden Impulse expected
    Valid From: 2014 Jan 09 2000 UTC
    Valid To: 2014 Jan 09 2030 UTC
    IP Shock Passage Observed: 2014 Jan 09 1932 UTC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,412 ✭✭✭lolie


    Worth watching Stargazing live on bbc2 now as Liz bonnin will be reporting on the Aurora live from several thousand feet up in an airplane.
    Lucky bitch:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭blackbird99


    were just saying on stargazing they expect it between now and 4 in the morning


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭Conmaicne Mara


    Considering a walk up the hill behind us, but it doesn't appear too clear out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    were just saying on stargazing they expect it between now and 4 in the morning

    Just arrived. Doesn't look to be very strong yet anyway.

    GOEShp.gif


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭Pretzill


    Just arrived. Doesn't look to be very strong yet anyway.

    GOEShp.gif

    It's cloudy here in the northwest hoping for it to clear up. Just saw Liz Bonnin on Stargazing fantastic pics lucky divil...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,511 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    Pretzill wrote: »
    It's cloudy here in the northwest hoping for it to clear up.

    http://www.sat24.com/?ir=true&ra=false&region=gb

    tis looking cloudy alright


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭RebelButtMunch


    Just said on tv that the cme has just hit now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Just said on tv that the cme has just hit now

    Yeah about 50 mins ago. Weaker than expected though.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,068 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    completely clouded over here now:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,771 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Activity looking to be kicking off according to space weather.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Pretty disappointing in the end.
    CME Impact Recap: Geomagnetic activity following the much weaker than predicted CME impact remained well below storm levels. Solar wind speeds were mostly steady near 400-450 km/s, and the Bz/IMF component was for the most part positive, with only minor periods of slightly south pointing Bz. Earth bound protons continue to gradually decrease and remain within the minor S1 radiation storm threshold.


    The large sunspot group has been remarkably quiet since the X flare and will soon be rotating away from the earth, so we are running out of time for a second chance of another large CME in the near term.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭FrDougalMcguire


    Any chance of anything tonight?
    Aurora_Map_N.png


    Keep track of http://helios.swpc.noaa.gov/ovation/North_New.html for updates


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭Popoutman


    Kp is currently about 3.5. So not a chance of seeing aurorae from .ie tonight - certainly none strong enough to see through the moonlit sky. For visible aurorae (not just a glow on the horizon) from e.g Dublin or Limerick, we need Kp of 6 or greater.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Daniel O Donnel


    Convinced I saw activity in the last half hour. I know it is really bright with the moon but unless my eyes are wonky I think I saw them.:)

    I'm north of Letterkenny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,511 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    judging by the image 2 posts up, there's a definite chance of that Daniel!

    Moon doing some really funky stuff with the clouds to the north of Athlone right now - they look almost like a big silver tree in the sky


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Daniel O Donnel


    Must admit I didn't realise the above chart was a live one!
    Boy does that make it easier to predict.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,412 ✭✭✭lolie


    Might be something for people up far North to keep an eye over the weekend.
    From http://www.solarham.net/ two days ago.
    Weekend Aurora Watch
    The solar wind prediction model released by NOAA has been updated to include a pair of coronal mass ejections with potential Earth directed components. A model released by the Goddard Space Flight Center is also updated to include a halo CME from earlier this morning. An impact to our geomagnetic field will be possible this weekend (Feb 15) and could lead to aurora displays at high latitudes.
    feb12_2014_stream.gif
    WATCH: Geomagnetic Storm Category G2 Predicted
    Highest Storm Level Predicted by Day:
    Feb 13: None (Below G1) Feb 14: G1 (Minor) Feb 15: G2 (Moderate)
    Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 55 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,720 ✭✭✭Hal1


    I just got an auroral alert from gse. All it says is:
    A large auroral event is in progress now.

    It doesn't seem strong enough to be seen this far south though.

    http://www.gi.alaska.edu/AuroraForecast/Europe/2014/02/19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,412 ✭✭✭lolie


    People up near the North coast should be on the lookout for Aurora later after earth was hit by a small CME from a flare that left the sun on Tuesday.

    Currently KP-5 and IMF south and clear skies so a good chance of seeing something if its stays like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,144 ✭✭✭peter1892


    Reported as visible as far south in the UK as Yorkshire & Norfolk. Of course its cloudy here in Dublin :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Auldloon


    Best I've seen here just north of aberdeen. Green and red curtains with green beams :) finally!!! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,412 ✭✭✭lolie


    Auldloon wrote: »
    Best I've seen here just north of aberdeen. Green and red curtains with green beams :) finally!!! :)

    Some amazing pics on twitter from scotland alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    From Inishowen Facebook page

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Another from Donegal this time from Rita Wilson on Facebook

    gZWlrLA.jpg


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