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anyone find crossfit good?

  • 04-01-2014 10:03pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,688 ✭✭✭


    starting soon,would ya recommend it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭CerebralCortex


    zweton wrote: »
    starting soon,would ya recommend it.

    Where are you starting? What is your fitness level? Is your diet adequate? Are you prepared to work? Crossfit is great as long as you put the work in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭siochain


    Yeah found it good but will depend on the coach and there approach to programming. I really like the intensity of the training and crew I was working out with.

    One thing I will say is if you have previous injuries or imbalances you may not last long. You may be OK if your prepared to invest the time in doing lots of stretching and mobility work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,440 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    It will be very beneficial to most people who have fairly general goals (get stronger / fitter / lighter). I train in CFI and I would recommend it highly to a wide variety of people.

    I think the people who will benefit the most are those with a training history and some athletic ability who have maybe hit a plateau in interest / progress doing it themselves. Someone like that will be able to get stuck in from the offset and the knowledge gain in terms of exposure to structured programming and useful targeted mobility work will be particularly beneficial.

    For people on extreme ends of the scale - i.e. people who are very unfit and have movement issues or athletes with sports specific goals I think it is less useful. In both cases there needs to be targeted attention and programming. The former will need a lot of help with moving better and the latter will need to work on weaknesses / are beyond a general one size fits all approach.

    Every Crossfit will be different and I reckon it would be important that there is a strength bias to the programming and that the coaching team have varied backgrounds and interests.

    Ultimately it's going to be a significant investment of time and money signing up to any of them and one should research thoroughly themselves. As far as I'm aware all of the Dublin affiliates have detailed websites with some examples of the programming they run over a stretch of time. Give them a shout, take a look at the place and visit their twitter / facebook pages to get a good sense of what goes on there before you take the plunge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭CerebralCortex


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    It will be very beneficial to most people who have fairly general goals (get stronger / fitter / lighter). I train in CFI and I would recommend it highly to a wide variety of people.

    I think the people who will benefit the most are those with a training history and some athletic ability who have maybe hit a plateau in interest / progress doing it themselves. Someone like that will be able to get stuck in from the offset and the knowledge gain in terms of exposure to structured programming and useful targeted mobility work will be particularly beneficial.

    For people on extreme ends of the scale - i.e. people who are very unfit and have movement issues or athletes with sports specific goals I think it is less useful. In both cases there needs to be targeted attention and programming. The former will need a lot of help with moving better and the latter will need to work on weaknesses / are beyond a general one size fits all approach.

    Every Crossfit will be different and I reckon it would be important that there is a strength bias to the programming and that the coaching team have varied backgrounds and interests.

    Ultimately it's going to be a significant investment of time and money signing up to any of them and one should research thoroughly themselves. As far as I'm aware all of the Dublin affiliates have detailed websites with some examples of the programming they run over a stretch of time. Give them a shout, take a look at the place and visit their twitter / facebook pages to get a good sense of what goes on there before you take the plunge.

    Can't speak for CFI. I use CFDublin. What I find is a lot of people do it to tick the box of "Are you getting exercise?". Others take it very seriously and you can tell the difference quite easily. Unfortunately CFD in my experience doesn't program as well for the latter as they do for the former, but then again that could be because I'm not monitoring myself hard enough(I'm of the latter group I think).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,440 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Can't speak for CFI. I use CFDublin. What I find is a lot of people do it to tick the box of "Are you getting exercise?". Others take it very seriously and you can tell the difference quite easily. Unfortunately CFD in my experience doesn't program as well for the latter as they do for the former, but then again that could be because I'm not monitoring myself hard enough(I'm of the latter group I think).

    Someone is going to be left disappointed by one size fits all programming. The more serious you take things in all probability the more specific your goals are. The theory is scaling, so people get the same benefit and satisfaction through the difference in weight lifted of the speed of work completed. I think that works to an extent mind, but it isn't the ultimate answer.

    The reality is that CFI (and I assume CFD) do general programming because of cost primarily, not because they think their program is the ideal only program to follow. Practically, it makes the task of delivering a good service with limited resources easier if a class are all doing the same thing (bar scaling for ability or amendment for injury). That's not a criticism mind, time and money are limited resources. But once you understand that to be true, you have to accept that they aren't the answer for everyone.

    But look, in the main they are brilliant places to train for the majority of people. Like every other walk of life, the is no singular and perfect solution to the question of the 'right' or 'best' program.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Nika Bolokov


    I hope you like the word awesome, and a significantly smaller bank balance !

    Found it no better than a well designed gym routine, bit of sport and a decent diet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭dylbert


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Someone is going to be left disappointed by one size fits all programming. The more serious you take things in all probability the more specific your goals are. The theory is scaling, so people get the same benefit and satisfaction through the difference in weight lifted of the speed of work completed. I think that works to an extent mind, but it isn't the ultimate answer.

    The reality is that CFI (and I assume CFD) do general programming because of cost primarily, not because they think their program is the ideal only program to follow. Practically, it makes the task of delivering a good service with limited resources easier if a class are all doing the same thing (bar scaling for ability or amendment for injury). That's not a criticism mind, time and money are limited resources. But once you understand that to be true, you have to accept that they aren't the answer for everyone.

    But look, in the main they are brilliant places to train for the majority of people. Like every other walk of life, the is no singular and perfect solution to the question of the 'right' or 'best' program.

    It's possible for a crossfit gym to have different programs to suit different people and goals running, where I train there is a fitness program, a performance program and a competition program, all running at the same time.

    And to answer the OP, crossfit's great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,440 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    dylbert wrote: »
    It's possible for a crossfit gym to have different programs to suit different people and goals running, where I train there is a fitness program, a performance program and a competition program, all running at the same time.

    And to answer the OP, crossfit's great.

    That sounds brilliant!! I'd suggest though that without individual tailoring you'll still have some people that the three options don'r quite fit. Which Crossfit are you in out of interest?

    One thing that I also forgot to mention is of course the Crossfit as a sport and a pursuit in its own right aspect of things. Leaving aside the general question of how good Crossfit gyms in Ireland are, some people will have a specific interest in performing Crossfit itself. Needless to say, in that case CFI is the place to be in part because it doesn't do Crossfit Wods all the time, but instead looks to develop all the skills required for them and cycle things with the competitive Crossfit season in mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭shutup


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Leaving aside the general question of how good Crossfit gyms in Ireland are, some people will have a specific interest in performing Crossfit itself. Needless to say, in that case CFI is the place to be in part because it doesn't do Crossfit Wods all the time, but instead looks to develop all the skills required for them and cycle things with the competitive Crossfit season in mind.

    Who are they doing this for? How many people from the gym compete, and how many competitions would they compete in, in a season?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,440 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    shutup wrote: »
    Who are they doing this for? How many people from the gym compete, and how many competitions would they compete in, in a season?

    Most people in the gym would compete in the Crossfit Open each year. Then there are numerous in house competitions throughout the year and a couple of the coaches qualified for a European competition in London next weekend.

    Again, even if you aren't part of the increasingly infestimal percentage of Open competitors who qualify for Regionals you may still want to practice Crossfit as an activity in of itself to the best level you can and have the best scores possible in traditional Crossfit 'Wods', etc. Mightn't be too many with such a focus, but they are out there for sure and why not?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭dylbert


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    That sounds brilliant!! I'd suggest though that without individual tailoring you'll still have some people that the three options don'r quite fit. Which Crossfit are you in out of interest?.

    I'm in the competition group.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,440 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    dylbert wrote: »
    I'm in the competition group.

    Nah sorry, I meant which gym! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭dylbert


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Nah sorry, I meant which gym! :)

    Ah, Crossfit North Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    zweton wrote: »
    starting soon,would ya recommend it.

    anyone find crossfit good?
    anyone find weightlighting good?
    anyone find MMA good?
    anyone find herpes good?

    Your question is vague to the point of retarded.

    State your stating point
    State your objective(s)
    Ask for feedback on the proposed tool - in this case crossfit
    Ask for feedback on potential supplier - affiliate/gym etc.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Zamboni wrote: »
    anyone find crossfit good?
    anyone find weightlighting good?
    anyone find MMA good?
    anyone find herpes good?

    Your question is vague to the point of retarded.

    State your stating point
    State your objective(s)
    Ask for feedback on the proposed tool - in this case crossfit
    Ask for feedback on potential supplier - affiliate/gym etc.

    I agree that the question is vague to the point of it being delayed or slow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭shutup


    Zamboni wrote: »
    anyone find crossfit good?
    anyone find weightlighting good?
    anyone find MMA good?
    anyone find herpes good?

    Your question is vague to the point of retarded.

    State your stating point
    State your objective(s)
    Ask for feedback on the proposed tool - in this case crossfit
    Ask for feedback on potential supplier - affiliate/gym etc.

    A bit harsh from a usually good poster.
    If I went in the cycling forum and asked is this bike good. I would hope not to be called a retard for not knowing there are different bikes for dozens of disciplines as well as sub cultures of commuters.
    Can you not just take it that the question is from somebody who is not as invested in the world of strength and conditioning as you and work from there to forge an answer.

    Starting point -- is probably at complete beginner level, if the question is anything to go by. We don't know if weight is a problem.
    Objectives -- for everyone who doesn't really know what they are doing in s+c are "to get fitter". It's up to the trainer or helpful boards poster to pull the finer details out of them.

    Feedback on crossfit is pretty much what was asked for, however badly phrased.

    Feedback on proposed gym -- impossible in this forum. Only one or two of them are represented here, and everybody will say theirs is the best. I very much dislike the owner if one place but it would be very unfair of me to comment that here as it's impossible for readers to know who's fault our disagreement is. Much like we don't know the praise I give could be for my brothers gym.

    So can I ask you and Hanley as you both didn't like the original question.

    What do you think of crossfit
    - for an average guy who wants to feel healthy
    - for an athlete hoping to compete in a sport
    - for a fat girl who wants to fit into a dress

    Is there any affiliates you would recommend or avoid?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    shutup wrote: »
    So can I ask you and Hanley as you both didn't like the original question.

    What do you think of crossfit
    - for an average guy who wants to feel healthy
    - for an athlete hoping to compete in a sport
    - for a fat girl who wants to fit into a dress

    Is there any affiliates you would recommend or avoid?

    Leave me out of it. I only joked about the way he asked the Q.

    But I'll answer anyway...

    -it's good
    -it's better than most but not perfect
    -it's great, once she eats accordingly

    The only affiliate I've exp with are personal friends of mine, and the original CrossFit affiliate in Ireland, AND my girlfriend trains there.

    So I might be a little biased when I say "CrossFit Ireland".

    They also just happen to have an incredible facilities and great coaches.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭emrys


    I took up Crossfit about 5 months ago - a bit daunting at first but easily the best decision (with regards to my fitness and well being ) I have ever made. I'm with Crossfit Dublin, and although I continue to find the classes challenging, they are geared towards your ability.

    For the record am in my early 40's and my only exercise previously would have been 1 or 2 games of 5 aside every week. Hadn't lifted a weight in 20+ years!


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