Kim Jong-un 'watched as uncle killed by dogs'

Mince Pie

Just seen this report. Apparently China are claiming that Uncle Thaek was set upon by starved dogs alongside 5 of his aides.

I'm not sure what to make of it, lack of evidence but China being their only ally would they make it up?
Its beyond barbaric and if true is definitely frightening.

Not a Fail link but a CH4 one.

http://www.channel4.com/news/kim-jong-un-jang-song-thaek-north-korea-dogs-execution-china

anncoates

Mince Pie wrote: »

was set upon by starved dogs alongside 5 of his aides.

Any of them his Chum?

SEPT 23 1989

Can someone not send a drone in to annihilate that headcase?

force eleven

Thought they preferred to eat the dogs than vice versa?

seamus

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Can someone not send a drone in to annihilate that headcase?

Would that solve a problem, or create a billion more?

Liam McPoyle

anncoates wrote: »

Any of them his Chum?

Ah that's a bit rough.

drunkmonkey

Mince Pie wrote: »

Its beyond barbaric and if true is definitely frightening.

It'll certainly make the next maverick think twice before upsetting Kim Jong-un

anncoates

Coleman Slawski wrote: »

Ah that's a bit rough.

If fido euro for every lame joke on threads like this....

Hande hoche!

North Korea is a crazy place. Then again it might just be propaganda.

old hippy

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Can someone not send a drone in to annihilate that headcase?

And who would that someone be? The US, perchance? Dragging South Korea and Japan into the ensuing conflict. Not to mention China and Russia, also.

Yes, that would be the perfect antidote to a lunatic situation. Fighting lunacy with more lunacy.

Frank Black

Hard to know whether to believe this, sounds a bit makey-uppy but China is a very reliable source of news reporting.

force eleven

anncoates wrote: »

If fido euro for every lame joke on threads like this....

I had to paws to read that, its not a patch on the other joke though.

anncoates

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It'll certainly make the next maverick think twice before upsetting Kim Jong-un

If true, It's almost a comically medieval form of execution and shows how batshit they are.

Captain Chaos

They'd just replace him with another looney.

bumper234

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Can someone not send a drone in to annihilate that headcase?

Get building.

Mince Pie

Frank Black wrote: »

Hard to know whether to believe this, sounds a bit makey-uppy but China is a very reliable source of news reporting.

I tend to think that CH4 would verify their sources? Still sounds unbelievable.

Muise...

Coleman Slawski wrote: »

Ah that's a bit rough.

ruff?

whiskeyman

Much punishment.
Such execution.
Wow.

titan18

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Can someone not send a drone in to annihilate that headcase?

Better the devil you know then the devil you don't.

Or, could end up with multiple guys fighting for control and NK people suffering even more

Hande hoche!

whiskeyman wrote: »

Much punishment.
Such execution.
Wow.

My favourite meme of the year.

ScumLord

China wants N.Korea. They've been slowly distancing themselves for N.Korea and I think they'll eventually invade. They'll promote it as them doing the necessary job nobody else was willing to do.

Muise...

titan18 wrote: »

Better the devil you know then the devil you don't.

Or, could end up with multiple guys fighting for control and NK people suffering even more

Not so much a devil as a Bond villain come to life.

LorMal

anncoates wrote: »

If fido euro for every lame joke on threads like this....

He has the whole Dalmnation under his control

Hande hoche!

anncoates wrote: »

If fido euro for every lame joke on threads like this....

Would it not be a pound?

Renegade Mechanic

bumper234 wrote: »

Get building.

Ive uh... Got some manure I can supply.. Seriously though if this turns out to be true they may just lose their only ally.. The Chinese liked his uncle. He cant be that stupid?

I am pie

LorMal wrote: »

He has the whole Dalmnation under his control

Needs to be hounded out of power. Barking mad he is.

Liam McPoyle

Muise... wrote: »

ruff?

/insert McBain doing standup JPEG.

preston johnny

Then the three hundred spectators at the execution ate the dogs.......

Donkey Oaty

Mince Pie wrote: »

I tend to think that CH4 would verify their sources? Still sounds unbelievable.

Interesting perspective from US historian Tim Stanley in the Telegraph today:

The source is questionable, too. If the Chinese knew about how Kim's uncle died, why didn't they talk about it sooner and why did the story only leak out through a Hong Kong news outlet? The incident was first reported by the Wen Wei Po newspaper on December 12, yet it's only now that The Straits Times has commented upon it – and only now that the Western media has started to take notice. The Straits Times is a respectable and widely read publication, but it's often been accused of being the mouthpiece of Singapore's ruling party and is staunchly anti-communist – so political bias is possible. Finally, we can't dismiss the possibility that China itself has fabricated or at least encouraged the story to send a message to Pyongyang. Kim's uncle was the architect of closer economic ties between the China and North Korea and there is thought to be a lot of anger about his death.

My caution comes from bitter experience. A few months ago, I was one of many writers who fell for the claim that North Korean propaganda told its people that hungry Americans eat snow to survive. That turned out to be a fraud. But the problem with Kim's crazy "paradise" is that it's so thoroughly evil that it seems capable of any act of inhumanity. Including even this.

Muise...

Coleman Slawski wrote: »

/insert McBain doing standup JPEG.

sorry, I can't open that.

smcgiff

whiskeyman wrote: »

Much punishment.
Such execution.
Wow.

Bow Wow.

The Kims are some sick puppies.

Kintarō Hattori

Muise... wrote: »

sorry, I can't open that.

Um, there's nothing actually there.

Muise...

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

Um, there's nothing actually there.

:P

Mint Aero

Poor doggie woggies were starved for 3 days

MonaPizza

I guess he was just trying to muzzle the opposition

SpaceTime

I think China's distancing itself from North Korea because it is simply making no progress and there's no economic reasons for it to want anything to do with it.

The main concern the Chinese Government would have is preventing overspill of any meltdown in North Korea or any kind of North vs South Korean war kicking off as it would result in a problem right on China's border and too close to its major industrial heartland for comfort.

Also, China now has a huge vested interest in South Korea and Japan being unaffected. They're huge trading partners at this stage and China hosts manufacturing for a hell of a lot of their companies and exports lots of stuff to them.

I would suspect Beijing's growing weary of these insane antics in North Korea.

If it ever did do anything about it, I would strongly suspect it would be in the interests of stabilising the situation rather than any kind of land grab.

The best way forward on this would probably be for South Korea and China to cooperate without US involvement and get North Korea sorted out.

China's in a good position to be able to talk to North Korea, where as nobody else is really at all.

I can't imagine that the South Koreans at this stage would even want a rapid and dangerous re-integration. There'd have to be some kind of long ramp-up before you could do that as North Korea's just so screwed up. It's nothing like say opening up Eastern Europe or re-integrating Germany. East Germany, despite its many, many flaws was a lot more modern, progressive and liberal than North Korea!

I would say you'd be looking at 30+ years to allow it to catch up with South Korea before you could do any kind of deep integration.

Also, I think since the Russians, Americans and Chinese basically caused the problem, they shouldn't be considering dumping the costs of this on South Korea!

Frank Black

SpaceTime wrote: »

I think China's distancing itself from North Korea because it is simply making no progress and there's no economic reasons for it to want anything to do with it.

The main concern the Chinese Government would have is preventing overspill of any meltdown in North Korea or any kind of North vs South Korean war kicking off as it would result in a problem right on China's border and too close to its major industrial heartland for comfort.

Also, China now has a huge vested interest in South Korea and Japan being unaffected. They're huge trading partners at this stage and China hosts manufacturing for a hell of a lot of their companies and exports lots of stuff to them.

I would suspect Beijing's growing weary of these insane antics in North Korea.

If it ever did do anything about it, I would strongly suspect it would be in the interests of stabilising the situation rather than any kind of land grab.

The best way forward on this would probably be for South Korea and China to cooperate without US involvement and get North Korea sorted out.

China's in a good position to be able to talk to North Korea, where as nobody else is really at all.

I can't imagine that the South Koreans at this stage would even want a rapid and dangerous re-integration. There'd have to be some kind of long ramp-up before you could do that as North Korea's just so screwed up. It's nothing like say opening up Eastern Europe or re-integrating Germany. East Germany, despite its many, many flaws was a lot more modern, progressive and liberal than North Korea!

I would say you'd be looking at 30+ years to allow it to catch up with South Korea before you could do any kind of deep integration.

Also, I think since the Russians, Americans and Chinese basically caused the problem, they shouldn't be considering dumping the costs of this on South Korea!

Don't get it.
Where's the dog pun?

tritium

MonaPizza wrote: »

I guess he was just trying to muzzle the opposition

Ah give it rover

anncoates

Speaking as a - in no way mentally unstable - dog lover, I will be lodging a strenuous complaint with the relevant authorities if these dogs are harmed for merely exercising their natural instinct to eat imprisoned political dissidents.

bear1

I read that the aides of the uncle were killed by anti aircraft gun machines.
What a bat**** crazy country I think we could all live without.
Am I right in believing their actual "leader" has been dead for a while?

MonaPizza

Why does everyone say that North Korea is a nuthouse and is run by lunatics who starve their people?

In case it has escaped your attention North Korea was invaded and decimated by America and a handful of other nations not so long ago. They managed to defend themselves despite the deaths of millions of their citizens. Afterwards they wanted nothing to do with the "west" and its bloodthirsty and exploitative ways so they closed up shop and tried to get on with their lot. Not content with wrecking the country, the US threw it's rattle out of the pram and bullied the nations of the world to go along with crippling sanctions against the tiny country because if Uncle Sam couldn't occupy and force the Koreans to dance to Washington's tune then by jingo he'd make sure the fcukers starved to death.

Standman

He also had his ex girlfriend executed by firing squad. I'd be very nervous if I was his wife.

Alf Veedersane

That's right. The Americans' are painting a picture of a nuthouse when it is in fact just a country that wants to mind its own business.

bear1

MonaPizza wrote: »

Why does everyone say that North Korea is a nuthouse and is run by lunatics who starve their people?

In case it has escaped your attention North Korea was invaded and decimated by America and a handful of other nations not so long ago. They managed to defend themselves despite the deaths of millions of their citizens. Afterwards they wanted nothing to do with the "west" and its bloodthirsty and exploitative ways so they closed up shop and tried to get on with their lot. Not content with wrecking the country, the US threw it's rattle out of the pram and bullied the nations of the world to go along with crippling sanctions against the tiny country because if Uncle Sam couldn't occupy and force the Koreans to dance to Washington's tune then by jingo he'd make sure the fcukers starved to death.

I'd imagine people call it a nutcase country cause no sane Government would inflict such torture on it's citizens, let alone the uncle of the bloody leader.
They have public executions like its a funfair
No freedom of speech
No freedom of press
I believe mobile phones are for the elite (may be wrong)
Internet access on a global scale is non existent for the normal citizens
Prison camps that would make guantanamo bay look like a summer holiday
So yeah, it is a bat**** crazy country

EyeSight

SpaceTime wrote: »

I think China's distancing itself from North Korea because it is simply making no progress and there's no economic reasons for it to want anything to do with it.

The main concern the Chinese Government would have is preventing overspill of any meltdown in North Korea or any kind of North vs South Korean war kicking off as it would result in a problem right on China's border and too close to its major industrial heartland for comfort.

Also, China now has a huge vested interest in South Korea and Japan being unaffected. They're huge trading partners at this stage and China hosts manufacturing for a hell of a lot of their companies and exports lots of stuff to them.

I would suspect Beijing's growing weary of these insane antics in North Korea.

If it ever did do anything about it, I would strongly suspect it would be in the interests of stabilising the situation rather than any kind of land grab.

The best way forward on this would probably be for South Korea and China to cooperate without US involvement and get North Korea sorted out.

China's in a good position to be able to talk to North Korea, where as nobody else is really at all.

I can't imagine that the South Koreans at this stage would even want a rapid and dangerous re-integration. There'd have to be some kind of long ramp-up before you could do that as North Korea's just so screwed up. It's nothing like say opening up Eastern Europe or re-integrating Germany. East Germany, despite its many, many flaws was a lot more modern, progressive and liberal than North Korea!

I would say you'd be looking at 30+ years to allow it to catch up with South Korea before you could do any kind of deep integration.

Also, I think since the Russians, Americans and Chinese basically caused the problem, they shouldn't be considering dumping the costs of this on South Korea!

China want NK to remain just for the buffer zone. If the USA ever got into a war with them they would have a large buffer there so that the US would be delayed enormously if they were to invade. Not to mention have an ally such as NK which has the biggest army in the world. I don't see them giving up this for the chance or more economic ties with the west.

My name is URL

Mince Pie wrote: »

Just seen this report. Apparently China are claiming that Uncle Thaek was set upon by starved dogs alongside 5 of his aides.

Are China claiming it though? The original story emerged in a Singapore newspaper. One that is essentially a mouthpiece for the ruling party. Seems like geopolitics and rumour-milling to me.

I'm not sure what to make of it, lack of evidence but China being their only ally would they make it up?
Its beyond barbaric and if true is definitely frightening.

Why is it frightening if true? If it's true then it's logical to assume that the dead guy himself was responsible for such acts in the past.. I don't know why people would feel any sort of compassion for a man that was head of the most oppressive military in the world.

ScumLord

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

That's right. The Americans' are painting a picture of a nuthouse when it is in fact just a country that wants to mind its own business.

The nut and fruit cake business?

MonaPizza

SpaceTime wrote: »

I think China's distancing itself from North Korea because it is simply making no progress and there's no economic reasons for it to want anything to do with it.

The main concern the Chinese Government would have is preventing overspill of any meltdown in North Korea or any kind of North vs South Korean war kicking off as it would result in a problem right on China's border and too close to its major industrial heartland for comfort.

Also, China now has a huge vested interest in South Korea and Japan being unaffected. They're huge trading partners at this stage and China hosts manufacturing for a hell of a lot of their companies and exports lots of stuff to them.

I would suspect Beijing's growing weary of these insane antics in North Korea.

If it ever did do anything about it, I would strongly suspect it would be in the interests of stabilising the situation rather than any kind of land grab.

The best way forward on this would probably be for South Korea and China to cooperate without US involvement and get North Korea sorted out.

China's in a good position to be able to talk to North Korea, where as nobody else is really at all.

I can't imagine that the South Koreans at this stage would even want a rapid and dangerous re-integration. There'd have to be some kind of long ramp-up before you could do that as North Korea's just so screwed up. It's nothing like say opening up Eastern Europe or re-integrating Germany. East Germany, despite its many, many flaws was a lot more modern, progressive and liberal than North Korea!

I would say you'd be looking at 30+ years to allow it to catch up with South Korea before you could do any kind of deep integration.

Also, I think since the Russians, Americans and Chinese basically caused the problem, they shouldn't be considering dumping the costs of this on South Korea!

Why would China be bothered about this incident? It this any more bizarre or insane than Western backed thugs stabbing ghadaffi in the anus with a bayonet or Western backed thugs in Syria cutting open the bodies of soldiers, hacking out their organs and taking a bite from them?
Where's the outrage there from all y'all?

Why is people's outrage off the charts when North Korea does something but there's not a peep when anyone else does it?

If North Korea locked up someone for speaking out against the regime you'd be screaming that the place should be nuked. When the US cages a bunch of people at Gitmo or bangs up Bradley Manning for speaking out against the regime I don't hear the same level of whining.

bear1

Has anyone noticed though how Russia stays very quiet about NK?

steddyeddy

The people in N.Korea are suffering terribly under this maniacal spoiled brat. I say take him and his closest supporters out. The people in his country hate and fear the man I don't think it would create more of him. So yes operation kill fat head is the way to go!

Hande hoche!

bear1 wrote: »

Has anyone noticed though how Russia stays very quiet about NK?

It seems like a sensible policy.