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SamforMayo wrote: »I like that Myrtl routine too, maybe you should rest for a few days and see if it helps your niggle, its not worth chancing doing damage.
Yeah I find the Myrtl routine good alright. Re my 'injury' I will definitely rest if it worsens but at the moment (as in my post to Ososlo) I don't seem to be getting any worse and I have this (probably stupid) target run in mind (just my own personal target
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could be running hopping on one leg by then :eek: 0 -
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Monday 24 February
5 miles at easy effort 10:24 min/mile
Last Sunday I came home almost in tears with a pain in my bum and a sore hip and a sore knee. Last Monday I was told by my physio to stop running completely for at least a few weeks. If I had been told then that I'd be back running having only missed 4 days, I'd have given my right arm away (not leg, I'd need that:D). I must send my ex-physio;) a link to the Wharton A.I.S. routine :pac:
Thanks Stazza I owe you one.
Last 2 runs were very much easier than recovery effort, well over 11.30 min/miles and I really felt like I was walking. I was just afraid to push it in any way at all just in case. This was much more fluid and I got into a nice rhythm whilst keeping it very easy. Started off at recovery effort and gradually upped it a tiny bit. Really could have upped it a lot more and was sorely attempted to do a few strides at the end but easy does it for the moment I guess.
30 mins AIS and a little foam rolling pre-run and some foam rolling after run.
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Monday 24 February
5 miles at easy effort 10:24 min/mile
Last Sunday I came home almost in tears with a pain in my bum and a sore hip and a sore knee. Last Monday I was told by my physio to stop running completely for at least a few weeks. If I had been told then that I'd be back running having only missed 4 days, I'd have given my right arm away (not leg, I'd need that:D). I must send my ex-physio;) a link to the Wharton A.I.S. routine :pac:
Thanks Stazza I owe you one.
Last 2 runs were very much easier than recovery effort, well over 11.30 min/miles and I really felt like I was walking. I was just afraid to push it in any way at all just in case. This was much more fluid and I got into a nice rhythm whilst keeping it very easy. Started off at recovery effort and gradually upped it a tiny bit. Really could have upped it a lot more and was sorely attempted to do a few strides at the end but easy does it for the moment I guess.
30 mins AIS and a little foam rolling pre-run and some foam rolling after run.
Happy out:cool:
That s great, can you post a link to this AIS you speak of ?0 -
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Enjoy. All ya need is a good length of rope:pac:0
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Wednesday 26 February
4 miles at recovery effort 10:45min/mile
Was going to take the day off running but decided that'd be no fun so just went super slow instead. Ignored the watch and surprised pace wasn't even slower when I got saw it afterwards. Felt great and itching to go faster and longer but refrained!
30 mins AIS and foam rolling beforehand which made me feel very 'springy' tonight.
Now I just wanna go a bit faster:pac:
4 hours sleep with half a sleeping tab last night so a slight improvement on the night before:)0 -
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Ah cr1p you're right. I wish it was Thursday!ThebitterLemon wrote: »O,
Although I'm in a different time zone, unless you did today session tomorrow, I'm pretty sure it's Wednesday
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Thursday;) 27 February
5.52 miles at 10:05 min/mile
Long day at work. Used to be able to do my Wonder Woman stunt and go up the stairs in my civilian gear and back down 2 seconds later in my running gear and head off immediately, but alas those days are behind me as I now have to come in, get into the running gear and out with the rope:rolleyes: Anyways, I'm not really complaining as it's all in the greater good so happy to add 30 mins onto each run with the AIS work as it's obviously working for me.
Bid adieu to Mr. Wharton and out the door for 3 miles but came back with 5 and a half! How did that happen
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Again, it was a case of using restraint as I need to keep reminding myself I'm just back from injury so easy does it. I did pick it up a little bit here and there for a minute or two just to test things out and all feels good to go.
Was recently awarded a really cool contract for my business which I'm delighted about but it will mean I'll have to juggle things a bit more to fit it all in but I'll make sure my running doesn't suffer;)
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Hey there Ososlo
Been following your sleep issues with interest. I too am a pretty dysfunctional sleeper. In fact it wouldn't be unusual for me to go on a lengthy streak of getting 3 - 4 hrs sleep per night, if only I could get that consistency into my running streaks
Anyway, here's my totally unqualified, and pretty contrarian advice: stop worrying about it!
I would even go so far as to say stop trying to find solutions. I believe that the more you stress about it the worse the situation becomes, and the cycle of stress/sleep deprivation/stress just becomes a pretty horrible downward spiral.
I suggest a good start is to accept it for what it is. Tell yourself that you are leading a healthy, balanced life with a good mix of work, exercise, nutrition, good friends, physical and mental stimulation etc. etc. (you can complete your own version) and that sleep will come when your body needs it to come. In other words that there are enough good things in your life to make you resilient enough to less sleep, maybe you are even designed to cope with less sleep than the average person.
My experience is that this approach sometimes helps you sleep better and sometimes helps you sleep more, and sometimes it has no impact. But for sure if you can take the stress out of the situation, it stops the sleep issues invading your life, and then it just doesn't matter as much.
Sleep will come when it comes, because it always does!0 -
thanks for taking the time bambergbikebambergbike wrote: »Good luck with getting the sleep issues sorted - I have no idea how you get so much done on the patchy sleep you've been getting, but you're probably right about it being time to explore what you can do about it.
I was just reading this and it reminded me of your log. It's actually a bit of a rubbish article on meditation, but some of the comments underneath on the different tactics various people have for emptying their minds and getting away from technology and work are perceptive. If sitting quietly is too WOOOO for you, maybe you could try restorative yoga or something like that before bed, maybe even just try the AIS that you've now got down to a T late in the the evening. Anything where you're tuned in to your breathing and concentrating on what you're doing and how it feels rather than on past events and future plans.
As a runner, you're really good at tuning in to what helps you and what hurts you, and you're really good at making time for your runs and your rehab/prehab exercises even when you're busy. Maybe you can transfer some of those skills and that discipline over and work out what works for you. Write stuff down rather than having it bounce around your head? Avoid screens before bedtime? Some kind of wind-down routine? If it seems like a drag, telling yourself you're doing it to run better might help more than telling yourself it will boost your performance at work.
Some good suggestions for relaxing, much appreciated.
I read for about an hour before going to sleep each night. I am actually really relaxed going to bed every night and my heart rate is the lowest it is all day for the hours before bedtime, under 50bpm which is low for me. I drift off to sleep no problem after reading. The problems arise with waking up about 1.5 hours after I fall asleep for whatever reason. And yes there are a billion thoughts going around in my head when I wake up and I feel totally wired so might try your suggestion of writing them down. Should make for interesting reading the next day:D
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Hey there Ososlo
Been following your sleep issues with interest. I too am a pretty dysfunctional sleeper. In fact it wouldn't be unusual for me to go on a lengthy streak of getting 3 - 4 hrs sleep per night, if only I could get that consistency into my running streaks
Anyway, here's my totally unqualified, and pretty contrarian advice: stop worrying about it!
I would even go so far as to say stop trying to find solutions. I believe that the more you stress about it the worse the situation becomes, and the cycle of stress/sleep deprivation/stress just becomes a pretty horrible downward spiral.
I suggest a good start is to accept it for what it is. Tell yourself that you are leading a healthy, balanced life with a good mix of work, exercise, nutrition, good friends, physical and mental stimulation etc. etc. (you can complete your own version) and that sleep will come when your body needs it to come. In other words that there are enough good things in your life to make you resilient enough to less sleep, maybe you are even designed to cope with less sleep than the average person.
My experience is that this approach sometimes helps you sleep better and sometimes helps you sleep more, and sometimes it has no impact. But for sure if you can take the stress out of the situation, it stops the sleep issues invading your life, and then it just doesn't matter as much.
Sleep will come when it comes, because it always does!
Yeah a lot to be said for what you're saying and I too am usually of the mind that worrying about it makes it worse. However, I'm not functioning well lately with it and need to find something that will help me as it's at a chronic stage. I can go for about 4-5 nights of cr1p sleep (2-3 hrs) and function fine, however it starts to really get to me after the 5th night and starts affecting my daily life. I'm starting to make errors in my work that I can't get away due to the nature of what I do for a living, so it's having a very negative impact on me lately and I really need to find a solution. I've suffered with it all my life but this particularly bad patch has been going on now for 2 months and there's no sign of it improving.
Thanks and I will try to worry less about it whilst trying to find a solution:) I think I'm talking rubbish now and contradicting myself:o I'm tired:(0 -
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